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Dec 30, 2014 1:55 AM

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Kamipriest said:
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He ruins the anime for me.


I don't know how that's even possible but whatever.


They must not like red heads hahaha.
Dec 30, 2014 1:56 AM
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
He ruins the anime for me.


Great.......don't come back for the second half and say the same lines.

Dec 30, 2014 1:58 AM
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SwordHand said:


Holy shit.....

Thanks Sword, that is something a definitely needed.

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
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Holy shit.....

Thanks Sword, that is something a definitely needed.


That chart is the worst generalization I have seen haha, MC's can be so much more than that!
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Lolicon_Knight said:
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Holy shit.....

Thanks Sword, that is something a definitely needed.


That chart is the worst generalization I have seen haha, MC's can be so much more than that!


*Satire Intensifies*

Is it a self insert or a relatable character? Just a matter of the words you use to describe them.
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SwordHand said:


This is pretty hilarious, is it so hard to realize that there are only certain ways to write an MC or a story for that matter. The word generic is useless since everything is generic, all characters fall into archtypes, all stories follow a certain plot line whether it be

Man vs Man
Nature vs Man
Society vs Man
Man vs self
Nature vs Nature
Society vs Nature

That's about the only ways possible to write a story, all conflict an narrative falls into one of those.

If you want to break it down a different way it could be used like this
Man vs God
Man Vs Self
Man Vs Man
Man Vs Society
Man Vs Nature
Man Vs Supernatural
Man Vs Technology

Although most of those can be mushed together, Supernatural/God
Technology/Society ect

Lolicon_Knight said:
Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Holy shit.....

Thanks Sword, that is something a definitely needed.


That chart is the worst generalization I have seen
haha, MC's can be so much more than that!


Not really, they all fall into one of those categories, sure they could have more depth but they will still fall into that. It's just the way writing works, everything falls into certain categories.

Obviously it's vague, the writer has to fill in the details around them so they have more depth.
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However in this case it's: Man vs Cockblocking Grail War

Why can't they just leave him to gather his harem in piece? ;_;
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WrongPriest said:
However in this case it's: Man vs Cockblocking Grail War

Why can't they just leave him to gather his harem in piece? ;_;


Because the grail war spawned the majority of his harem. (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


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WrongPriest said:
However in this case it's: Man vs Cockblocking Grail War

Why can't they just leave him to gather his harem in piece? ;_;


So man vs supernatural/nature
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Kamipriest said:
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However in this case it's: Man vs Cockblocking Grail War

Why can't they just leave him to gather his harem in piece? ;_;


So man vs supernatural/nature


Man who fucks bitchs, has morals, only fights when he can be fucked, doesnt have any goals or reasons to fight, also owns cats and a tiger. and rides them away from fights when he doesnt wanna fight, whats that
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Lolicon_Knight said:
Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Holy shit.....

Thanks Sword, that is something a definitely needed.


That chart is the worst generalization I have seen haha, MC's can be so much more than that!


Hush you.......don't you know this is how elistists(?) of Anime Forums generalize MCs.

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
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That chart is the worst generalization I have seen haha, MC's can be so much more than that!


Hush you.......don't you know this is how elistists(?) of Anime Forums generalize MCs.


Elitists can kiss my ass!
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SwordHand said:
WrongPriest said:
However in this case it's: Man vs Cockblocking Grail War

Why can't they just leave him to gather his harem in piece? ;_;


Because the grail war spawned the majority of his harem. (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Because the grail war spawned it's single strongest Poon-denyer The Saber
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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
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He ruins the anime for me.


Great.......don't come back for the second half and say the same lines.


That's cool, i'd love for him to get more interesting.

You guys don't take opinions well.
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
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Great.......don't come back for the second half and say the same lines.


That's cool, i'd love for him to get more interesting.

You guys don't take opinions well.


Nah i don't like opinions by broken radios..........that are never going to change.

You are probably going to be like: "I wanted him to get better/interesting but he is still boring/ruins the show".......or something along those lines.

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shirou is bad at readin between the lines and being numb to it all period he should drop the non kill act and grow up
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Great.......don't come back for the second half and say the same lines.


That's cool, i'd love for him to get more interesting.

You guys don't take opinions well.


Don't mind us, we all became a little sensitive.
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
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Great.......don't come back for the second half and say the same lines.


That's cool, i'd love for him to get more interesting.

You guys don't take opinions well.


It's more about tact than opinions.

You were being too blunt.

^See the difference between the two sentences?


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AnimeSoul666 said:
shirou is bad at readin between the lines and being numb to it all period he should drop the non kill act and grow up


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and i dont get the i wont kill attitude of him... [/spoiler]

I might just clear this up, Not once has it been implied that Shirou's mandate is not to kill.

People seem to think because he gave Kuzuki the benefit of the doubt that killing isn't an option for him.
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Lol, broken radio. I don't even hate on this show and still like it. I'm giving it a 6, but dayum you are others get so damn defensive over opinions. Nobody is stopping you from talking well about the show, so I'd expect the reverse.
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shirou is bad at readin between the lines and being numb to it all period he should drop the non kill act and grow up


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Flick_Flunk said:
and i dont get the i wont kill attitude of him... [/spoiler]

I might just clear this up, Not once has it been implied that Shirou's mandate is not to kill.

People seem to think because he gave Kuzuki the benefit of the doubt that killing isn't an option for him.


I like it that they magically forget about Shirou's declaration of "Taking Kuzuki down" in that episode.

Dec 30, 2014 2:24 AM

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Opinions can be blunt, learn to deal.
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
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It's more about tact than opinions.

You were being too blunt.

^See the difference between the two sentences?


Opinions can be blunt, learn to deal.


You misunderstand me! All I'm saying is that if you had phrased your opinion differently, the backlash wouldn't have been as severe!

Don't try to imply that saying the same thing in a different way makes no difference. I know people don't like it when I talk like a pretentious prick. And opinions can't be blunt.


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Shirou is like a white loaf. You have to put sandwich spread or peanut butter to make him tasty. In short, give him a distinct personality.
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OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL.

Dec 30, 2014 2:28 AM

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Lolicon_Knight said:
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So man vs supernatural/nature


Man who fucks bitchs, has morals, only fights when he can be fucked, doesnt have any goals or reasons to fight, also owns cats and a tiger. and rides them away from fights when he doesnt wanna fight, whats that


Looks at the chart.... Manwhore edgelord seems to be pretty fitting.
Looks at the Character archtypes... pretty sure he fits The Rebel
Dec 30, 2014 2:29 AM

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All I said was he was ruining the show for me. That is hardly anything THAT bad..........

Why should I phrase that differently? To protect people's feelings? Lol, get real.
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:


All I said was he was ruining the show for me. That is hardly anything THAT bad..........

Why should I phrase that differently? To protect people's feelings? Lol, get real.


SO why are you complaining about the backlash.......

We don't care about your feelings either.....

Dec 30, 2014 2:32 AM

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peeyaj said:
Shirou is like a white loaf. You have to put sandwich spread or peanut butter to make him tasty. In short, give him a distinct personality.


Pretty sure he has a distinct personality.
Dec 30, 2014 2:33 AM

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Kamipriest said:
peeyaj said:
Shirou is like a white loaf. You have to put sandwich spread or peanut butter to make him tasty. In short, give him a distinct personality.


Pretty sure he has a distinct personality.


I'm allergic to peanuts.


Dec 30, 2014 2:34 AM

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Because once someone or multiple people reply to me the forum thing to do is reply back. I really don't care if you care about my feelings, but get defensive when you should. Not off a post that wasn't even that bad.
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
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SO why are you complaining about the backlash.......

We don't care about your feelings either.....


Because once someone or multiple people reply to me the forum thing to do is reply back. I really don't care if you care about my feelings, but get defensive when you should. Not off a post that wasn't even that bad.


So in the end you like giving so called opinions but not the backlash.........

Not a HYPOCRITE, not at all.......

DEAL with it kiddo........

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Kagami_Hiiragi said:
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SO why are you complaining about the backlash.......

We don't care about your feelings either.....


Because once someone or multiple people reply to me the forum thing to do is reply back. I really don't care if you care about my feelings, but get defensive when you should. Not off a post that wasn't even that bad.


You've been here long enough to know that there are people who will respond heatedly to your remarks.

I am perfectly fine with everything you do, as long as you take responsibility for it~


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I personally don't understand how a character could ruin a story for anyone.
I will never understand people who need to be spoonfed everything either, or those who don't know how to analyze anything.
I will probably never understand people who can't see subtle hints/symbolism.
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:


Because once someone or multiple people reply to me the forum thing to do is reply back. I really don't care if you care about my feelings, but get defensive when you should. Not off a post that wasn't even that bad.

Sorry that our GAR MC, who's full of personality is ruing the show for you. Maybe you should stick to loli idol harem wish-fulfillment shit.
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:


Because once someone or multiple people reply to me the forum thing to do is reply back. I really don't care if you care about my feelings, but get defensive when you should. Not off a post that wasn't even that bad.


Who dictates when someone should get defensive? This is an honest question, do you get to choose, or do we? I'm pretty sure they have the right to decide that not you. Just like you're getting defensive for the backlash, you get to decide what's offensive to you, they get to decide what's offensive to them.
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Actually, I'm not being a hypocrite. I actually don't mind backlash, but anyone would cringe when somebody gets defensive over a minor shot at a show they like.

There is a word for that y'know.
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"Hey guys, look at this forum and see how toxic these fate fanboys are."


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Man, has anybody else noticed that Shirou is just a less interesting copy of Kirito from Sword Art Online? It's so obvious.
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Kagami_Hiiragi said:


Actually, I'm not being a hypocrite. I actually don't mind backlash, but anyone would cringe when somebody gets defensive over a minor shot at a show they like.

There is a word for that y'know.


Logical Fallacy
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That awkward moment when you have to doublecheck every post to detect which ones are BR-style sarcasm and which ones are actually srs, because both sound the same.
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The OP said you've watched all the fate series which means you haven't read the visual novel so your opinion is totally groundless. Shirou gets most of his development at the ends of all the routes. I mean you would be pretty fucked up if your watched as your entire family burned in front of you. Also, kiritusgu burdened him with his ideal just before he died. Shirou saw as kritsugu fell apart as a man and then (just before he dies) he makes shirou promise that he will become a hero of justice. What else do you expect him to do? Shirou is not your herp derp shounen protag. He is a complex, broken individual who as we have seen and as arhcer guess, his deals will drag him down into the depths of despair. Most of decision he makes make sense in the context of the visual novel because there are often multiple choices and you see how bad it goes for shirou if you take another choice.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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If you don't mind making others cringe and hate FS even more then get defensive when a small comment is brought up for a show you like.

Go for it.
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Ckan said:
Man, has anybody else noticed that Shirou is just a less interesting copy of Kirito from Sword Art Online? It's so obvious.


..... How exactly? Kirito never loses, Shirou rarely wins. You're comparing bread to bananas here man.
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CookingPriest said:
That awkward moment when you have to doublecheck every post to detect which ones are BR-style sarcasm and which ones are actually srs, because both sound the same.

Sarcasm is the life blood of forums.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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The OP said you've watched all the fate series which means you haven't read the visual novel so your opinion is totally groundless. Shirou gets most of his development at the ends of all the routes. I mean you would be pretty fucked up if your watched as your entire family burned in front of you. Also, kiritusgu burdened him with his ideal just before he died. Shirou saw as kritsugu fell apart as a man and then (just before he dies) he makes shirou promise that he will become a hero of justice. What else do you expect him to do? Shirou is not your herp derp shounen protag. He is a complex, broken individual who as we have seen and as arhcer guess, his deals will drag him down into the depths of despair. Most of decision he makes make sense in the context of the visual novel because there are often multiple choices and you see how bad it goes for shirou if you take another choice.

you can't expect of everyone to read the VN
forming an opinion just from watching the anime is just as valid
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Ckan said:
Man, has anybody else noticed that Shirou is just a less interesting copy of Kirito from Sword Art Online? It's so obvious.

He even dual wields. You'd think that the writer of Fate could at least come up with something original.
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Agreed , he is super boring and annoying. I must protect and fight, I must protect and fight even though I can just leave it to my strong heroic spirit considering I'm a weak master currently who just gets in the way.
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Ckan said:
Man, has anybody else noticed that Shirou is just a less interesting copy of Kirito from Sword Art Online? It's so obvious.

This is obvious sarcasm trying to wind us people who actually understand shirou character into getting angry. I think even the shirou haters would agree he has more character than kirito (please don't into SAO debate guys, I would hate for this thread to be deleted and my paragraphs to go to waste)

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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There's no flaw in what I said though. I did say getting defensive is fine. Getting defensive or replying to others to quote me is a logical thing to do. Getying defensive over my comment is just cringe.
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