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Dec 12, 2014 11:47 AM

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-Shuda- said:
Via Expugnatio > Bellerophon.

One overcame Excalibur, the other didn't. Simple.

Iskandar shows his back while casting anyway, scans below:


It was destroyed by Excalibur, though?
And regardless as far as I know he can't use both simultaneously , and Bellerophon has a higher "maximum target" number.

He's actually looking at the Assassin's, though.
Dec 12, 2014 11:48 AM

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-Shuda- said:
Via Expugnatio > Bellerophon.

One overcame Excalibur, the other didn't. Simple.

Iskandar shows his back while casting anyway, scans below:

Medusa can petrify him and his entire army in an instant.Btw she doesnt have to look at their eyes.

Fuck Via Expugnatio.
Dec 12, 2014 11:51 AM

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CookingPriest said:
ORT


Dec 12, 2014 11:54 AM

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HeisenPriest said:
CookingPriest said:
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Dec 12, 2014 11:58 AM

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You guys are forgetting the biggest fact about this Iskandar debate. It changes everything, your perspective will be mind-tripped after you remember this fact.
Dec 12, 2014 11:59 AM

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-Shuda- said:
You guys are forgetting the biggest fact about this Iskandar debate. It changes everything, your perspective will be mind-tripped after you remember this fact.


Yea I figured so I decided not to join in.
Dec 12, 2014 11:59 AM

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Actually having just checked the wiki, the references say ORT may not be the strongest being to have received Earth's signal.
Sooo....not the strongest Type?
Or perhaps other lifeforms that Nasu has not touched on yet?
Dec 12, 2014 12:00 PM

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Kamipriest said:
-Shuda- said:
You guys are forgetting the biggest fact about this Iskandar debate. It changes everything, your perspective will be mind-tripped after you remember this fact.


Yea I figured so I decided not to join in.
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Dec 12, 2014 12:02 PM

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InsertPriestHere said:
Actually having just checked the wiki, the references say ORT may not be the strongest being to have received Earth's signal.
Sooo....not the strongest Type?
Or perhaps other lifeforms that Nasu has not touched on yet?

Yes I read this too and it got me really curious
Dec 12, 2014 12:02 PM

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Dec 12, 2014 12:03 PM

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omeg4 said:




Dec 12, 2014 12:04 PM

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I'm glad I steered this conversation in the right direction from the get-go. I feel proud of myself.
Now: no one has rebutted my claim that ZEARTH could kill all of Nasuverse. I know I'm right, but at least TRY to prove me wrong.
Dec 12, 2014 12:05 PM

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InsertPriestHere said:
Actually having just checked the wiki, the references say ORT may not be the strongest being to have received Earth's signal.
Sooo....not the strongest Type?
Or perhaps other lifeforms that Nasu has not touched on yet?


That's from what I see from the wiki. Types seem to be very high up, but they get countered sometimes by things like Ado Edem and his Slash Emperor and Gun God and his Black Barrel. Oddly enough, Sion has Barrel Replica, which is a Replica of Black Barrel.
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Dec 12, 2014 12:05 PM

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InsertPriestHere said:


Dec 12, 2014 12:12 PM

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InsertPriestHere said:



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ZEARTH from Ultraman right?

Or another ZEARTH?

He said Bokurano, I think.
Dec 12, 2014 12:12 PM

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omeg4 said:
InsertPriestHere said:
Actually having just checked the wiki, the references say ORT may not be the strongest being to have received Earth's signal.
Sooo....not the strongest Type?
Or perhaps other lifeforms that Nasu has not touched on yet?

Yes I read this too and it got me really curious


The one of the ones that are above the cloud shield is stronger.
Dec 12, 2014 12:16 PM

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CookingPriest said:
omeg4 said:

Yes I read this too and it got me really curious


The one of the ones that are above the cloud shield is stronger.

Which two again? Type Moon and Mars, I think?
Uranus and Neptune were involved in some attack, IIRC.
Pluto was destroyed and used to create the shield.
Mercury is ORT and is on Earth.
Jupiter got Slash Emperor-ed
Saturn gets Slash Emperor-ed
Venus is sleeping.

And I don't think Arc is considered an Aristotles, or at least isn't involved in their thing.
I think.
Dec 12, 2014 12:27 PM

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RinArcher said:
ZEARTH from Ultraman right?

Or another ZEARTH?

The one from Bokurano, but Ultraman: Zearth works too.
Dec 12, 2014 12:59 PM

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InsertPriestHere said:
CookingPriest said:


The one of the ones that are above the cloud shield is stronger.

Which two again? Type Moon and Mars, I think?
Uranus and Neptune were involved in some attack, IIRC.
Pluto was destroyed and used to create the shield.
Mercury is ORT and is on Earth.
Jupiter got Slash Emperor-ed
Saturn gets Slash Emperor-ed
Venus is sleeping.

And I don't think Arc is considered an Aristotles, or at least isn't involved in their thing.
I think.


Moon, Mars or both are stronger.

Most likely Moon because


Mars might as well since Mars is used to represent GOd of War in roman mythology and is asociated with strength.


ARc IS aritoteles, even before she reaches her CR form. She is
Dec 12, 2014 9:16 PM

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omeg4 said:
I think it would be something like this

Type Mercury > Primate Murder = Type Moon > Zelretch > Arc > Gil = Karna > other servants > masters/mages


Apparently, he can go toe to toe with him =3 In a fair fight.
-Shuda- said:
You guys are forgetting the biggest fact about this Iskandar debate. It changes everything, your perspective will be mind-tripped after you remember this fact.


No, dood. Madusa is far stronger. Simple fact, go re-read HF and HA, nao.

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Wutt. WHERE ARE YOU NASU, AND WHERE IS HER NENDOROID & FIGMA!?


P.s Am I the only one who imagines her to kill everyone like she's playing a game? =3

Pps Blue! Rejoice!

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Dec 13, 2014 2:54 PM

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Shit is gonna get good. Let us discuss!!
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Dec 13, 2014 3:31 PM

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So far

Assassin > Kuzuki > Saber > Lancer = Archer > Berserker > Caster > Rin > Shit > Rider > Shirou > Shinji
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Dec 13, 2014 5:02 PM

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Could Shiki beat Kotomine?
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
Dec 13, 2014 5:04 PM

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JabonHR said:
Could Shiki beat Kotomine?
Sure.
Dec 13, 2014 6:17 PM
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RenmarkMLG said:
What if lelouch was a master would that mean 4 command spells or is his Geass more powerful than a command spell.
Hmmm.. A geass compells someone to do something unquestionably which is hard to do with even 1 command spell.

But command spells can be used as physics breaking combat boosts/Utility so I guess their both pretty good in different ways.
Dec 13, 2014 6:21 PM

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WrongPriest said:
RenmarkMLG said:
What if lelouch was a master would that mean 4 command spells or is his Geass more powerful than a command spell.
Hmmm.. A geass compells someone to do something unquestionably which is hard to do with even 1 command spell.

But command spells can be used as physics breaking combat boosts/Utility so I guess their both pretty good in different ways.


Off topic. This is a powerlevel discussion thread, not a what if Character X was a master.
Dec 13, 2014 7:54 PM

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^The how about Lelouch powerlevel as servant? NP= SLAVE MAKER
Dec 13, 2014 7:57 PM
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Takiya_Oomine said:
^The how about Lelouch powerlevel as servant? NP= SLAVE MAKER


NP: Mystical Eyes of do my bidding Bitch.
Dec 13, 2014 8:06 PM

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WrongPriest said:
Takiya_Oomine said:
^The how about Lelouch powerlevel as servant? NP= SLAVE MAKER


NP: Mystical Eyes of do my bidding Bitch.

Even HG can't corrupt Gil, so i wonder if Geass will work on Gil?
Dec 13, 2014 8:59 PM

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Takiya_Oomine said:
WrongPriest said:


NP: Mystical Eyes of do my bidding Bitch.

Even HG can't corrupt Gil, so i wonder if Geass will work on Gil?

His ego is way to powerful for that
Dec 14, 2014 3:14 AM

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Takiya_Oomine said:
WrongPriest said:


NP: Mystical Eyes of do my bidding Bitch.

Even HG can't corrupt Gil, so i wonder if Geass will work on Gil?


It won't.


Either way, Casta offs Lelouch. GG.
Dec 14, 2014 3:32 AM

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CapsuleCore said:
JabonHR said:
Could Shiki beat Kotomine?
Sure.

But which Shiki and which Kotomine?
Dec 14, 2014 3:33 AM

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Hayate (From Hayate the combat Butler) as a Servant
NP: Trap mode, even man will fall for him
Even Blondie won't be able to resist
Dec 14, 2014 3:38 AM

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Shrimperor said:
Hayate (From Hayate the combat Butler) as a Servant
NP: Trap mode, even man will fall for him
Even Blondie won't be able to resist

CapsuleCore said:
Matchups, powerlevels, whatever - discuss anything like this here.

Rules:
[color=red]-This is not a "Which character would you summon as which Servant" thread. Get out.
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InsertPriestHere said:
CapsuleCore said:
Sure.

But which Shiki and which Kotomine?
Well, he wrote FZ Kotomine before I quoted him.
Dec 14, 2014 3:54 AM
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Summon Kami tenchi as a servant. GG universe
Dec 14, 2014 4:35 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Takiya_Oomine said:

Even HG can't corrupt Gil, so i wonder if Geass will work on Gil?


It won't.


Either way, Casta offs Lelouch. GG.


It might actually work. Lelouch kinda did manage to Geass C's World which due to it's nature is kinda like a god.
Dec 14, 2014 5:30 AM

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Sooo who is stronger: Lancer or Caster.
Lancer seems to have more powerful NP, but Caster has more tricks.
I don't care about spoilers.
Dec 14, 2014 5:35 AM

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kronos7 said:
Sooo who is stronger: Lancer or Caster.
Lancer seems to have more powerful NP, but Caster has more tricks.
I don't care about spoilers.


Hm. Caster's luck is B, which isn't so bad. She doesn't have any battle-related instinct skills though.

I think for once, being Lansa is not suffering, and Gae Bolg puts Caster down.
Dec 14, 2014 5:38 AM

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kronos7 said:
Sooo who is stronger: Lancer or Caster.
Lancer seems to have more powerful NP, but Caster has more tricks.
I don't care about spoilers.


Lancer can kill anyone if he uses his NP. Even Seiba would not get Lucky twice.
Lancer is faster than Caster. He is actually one of THE fastest servants ever.
Lancer is a knight-class so he is nigh immune to magic.

There's nothing Caster could do, unless they are at the temple and Assassin(who is more skilled than Lancer and could defeat Lancer) helps.
Dec 14, 2014 5:52 AM

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CookingPriest said:
kronos7 said:
Sooo who is stronger: Lancer or Caster.
Lancer seems to have more powerful NP, but Caster has more tricks.
I don't care about spoilers.


Lancer can kill anyone if he uses his NP. Even Seiba would not get Lucky twice.
Lancer is faster than Caster. He is actually one of THE fastest servants ever.
Lancer is a knight-class so he is nigh immune to magic.

There's nothing Caster could do, unless they are at the temple and Assassin(who is more skilled than Lancer and could defeat Lancer) helps.


If they are fighting in Caster's base with her having Assassin as back up. Lancer loses badly.
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Yeah but Caster has that space-freezing spell she used against Archer. She said it can work even against knight-classes.
Dec 14, 2014 5:55 AM

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kronos7 said:
Yeah but Caster has that space-freezing spell she used against Archer. She said it can work even against knight-classes.


She has to get close to kill him though

And the moment he utters his lance's name then, she dies.
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CookingPriest said:
kronos7 said:
Yeah but Caster has that space-freezing spell she used against Archer. She said it can work even against knight-classes.


She has to get close to kill him though

And the moment he utters his lance's name then, she dies.


Doesn't it have a short activation time?
Dec 14, 2014 5:57 AM
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kronos7 said:
Yeah but Caster has that space-freezing spell she used against Archer. She said it can work even against knight-classes.
It all depends on the terms of the fight. If lancer was forced to fight inside her Temple it would go very badly (not even the knight class can defend against True magic and all that).

Alternately if Caster was lured outside she Temple she would be quite a bit less threatening.
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DocAwesome said:
CookingPriest said:


She has to get close to kill him though

And the moment he utters his lance's name then, she dies.


Doesn't it have a short activation time?


Not really. As soon as Lancer utters the name of his spear, his target already has its heart pierced. Then everything plays out to fulfill that fate.

(minor F/HA spoiler)
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Dec 14, 2014 6:08 AM

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WrongPriest said:
kronos7 said:
Yeah but Caster has that space-freezing spell she used against Archer. She said it can work even against knight-classes.
It all depends on the terms of the fight. If lancer was forced to fight inside her Temple it would go very badly (not even the knight class can defend against True magic and all that).

Alternately if Caster was lured outside she Temple she would be quite a bit less threatening.


Even in the temple, it is merely a matter of Lancer going for the Bolg. He can't afford to play around, or else he's done, but Caster has nothing on the Bolg.
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Item Creation of a talisman that buffs her Luck to EX.











Yeah, it's just a Carnival Phantasm joke, I know.
Dec 14, 2014 6:26 AM

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Actually here's a question. Would gae bolg work inside Nero's theater?
Dec 14, 2014 7:17 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Actually here's a question. Would gae bolg work inside Nero's theater?


I actually have no idea since I know nothing about it aside from what Fate/Extra shown me and I read on wiki. I suppose it would still work, but Nero would either have it easier to survive the attack due to the advantage it gives her.
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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.
Dec 14, 2014 7:29 AM

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Aurioch said:
CookingPriest said:
Actually here's a question. Would gae bolg work inside Nero's theater?


I actually have no idea since I know nothing about it aside from what Fate/Extra shown me and I read on wiki. I suppose it would still work, but Nero would either have it easier to survive the attack due to the advantage it gives her.


Bassically Nero controls the rules inside it.



So I wonder how it would work with the whole causality power.
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