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Nov 12, 2014 9:58 AM

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as per season 2 prediction inoho and sylum is alive (poster and promo video)
and slaine is going to take command of the martian army lol (poster)
season 2 is going to end wiith slaine Vs inoho ending i guess
Nov 12, 2014 10:01 AM

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LonelyWizard said:
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Oh well we're almost at 100 pages lol, keep it going you guys
half of those posts are Darklight's so....

discussion goes on and on.............
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LonelyWizard said:
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Oh well we're almost at 100 pages lol, keep it going you guys
half of those posts are Darklight's so....


haha doesn't matter, at least we're getting there.
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kingcity20 said:
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half of those posts are Darklight's so....


haha doesn't matter, at least we're getting there.
i believe we can do it....
Nov 12, 2014 11:29 AM

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Abdul_Khader01 said:
as per season 2 prediction inoho and sylum is alive (poster and promo video)
and slaine is going to take command of the martian army lol (poster)
season 2 is going to end wiith slaine Vs inoho ending i guess


There's a promo video showing Inaho? Where? * wants to see his new look*
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I honestly thought it was great, I know that it was compared to Guilty Crown, but I have never seen it, so I can not actually support this theory. But I really thought it was Hella confusing I can see that Slaine was clearly torn between his world of birth and the world that raised him, if anything he is a traitor to humanity and needs to die in Season 2! Now I am hearing of crazy thing like the princess is alive and such utter nonsense! As much of a pain it was to her die and Inaho too they have to remain dead to fuel the fires of war that will continue. I cried a little when I saw her death, not the tars that Angel beats brought but the tears of that person need to burn in the deepest pit of hell and how could you do that she was defenseless!
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Jakerams said:
See people still raging on the thread but anyways

Slaine could not trust Inoha as you've seen from the previous episodes.
It was still stupid to save the person who is trying to assassinate Seylum.
Inoha is trigger happy around Slaine for some reason once shooting him out of the sky and then trying to shoot him just then.

Imagine if Inoha did not shoot slaine out the sky which led to him being tortured everything could have gone smoothly.


No, Inoha's fault wasn't that he shot Slaine out of the sky, it was that he didn't make sure Slain was dead. Remember, they were about to have peace when Slaine fucked up again and told the emperor that Aseylum was alive, which caused the war to escalate and ruined any chance of peace.
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Vinter said:
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See people still raging on the thread but anyways

Slaine could not trust Inoha as you've seen from the previous episodes.
It was still stupid to save the person who is trying to assassinate Seylum.
Inoha is trigger happy around Slaine for some reason once shooting him out of the sky and then trying to shoot him just then.

Imagine if Inoha did not shoot slaine out the sky which led to him being tortured everything could have gone smoothly.


No, Inoha's fault wasn't that he shot Slaine out of the sky, it was that he didn't make sure Slain was dead. Remember, they were about to have peace when Slaine fucked up again and told the emperor that Aseylum was alive, which caused the war to escalate and ruined any chance of peace.


That's true. His mistake was not shooting the cockpit
Nov 12, 2014 2:15 PM

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Jcan2 said:
I honestly thought it was great, I know that it was compared to Guilty Crown, but I have never seen it, so I can not actually support this theory. But I really thought it was Hella confusing I can see that Slaine was clearly torn between his world of birth and the world that raised him, if anything he is a traitor to humanity and needs to die in Season 2! Now I am hearing of crazy thing like the princess is alive and such utter nonsense! As much of a pain it was to her die and Inaho too they have to remain dead to fuel the fires of war that will continue. I cried a little when I saw her death, not the tars that Angel beats brought but the tears of that person need to burn in the deepest pit of hell and how could you do that she was defenseless!


The problem is that if the princess is dead, there is no hope for the Terrans. The princess is pretty much confirmed alive at this point, like most of us said we never saw where the second bullet hit. People just assumed it was the head, but it could have been the neck. Since it looks like the princess is in some kind of wheel chair in the promos for season 2, we can assume now it was the neck and she received some spinal cord damage.
Inaho is the only mystery, he could be in a coma or he could be dead. The interview with the director hinted at him returning late in the season, but he never gave a straight answer.
Slaine pretty much is a traitor to humanity now, as well as probably a traitor to the princess. Who knows where it will go from here, and that is why people are waiting for the second half.

Guilty Crown is called a train wreck by many but it honestly isn't a bad show, it has problems yes but as much as people try to criticize it, it did gain some good popularity and sold pretty well. The comparisons don't make sense though since they are completely different.

All and all it's just whiny people being whiny, who think they know how to write a story but will probably never attempt to do it. So they'll just criticize other stories to make up for it.
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Wow what happened to this thread.. I haven't made a post here for a while O.o

Vinter said:
Jakerams said:
See people still raging on the thread but anyways

Slaine could not trust Inoha as you've seen from the previous episodes.
It was still stupid to save the person who is trying to assassinate Seylum.
Inoha is trigger happy around Slaine for some reason once shooting him out of the sky and then trying to shoot him just then.

Imagine if Inoha did not shoot slaine out the sky which led to him being tortured everything could have gone smoothly.


No, Inoha's fault wasn't that he shot Slaine out of the sky, it was that he didn't make sure Slain was dead. Remember, they were about to have peace when Slaine fucked up again and told the emperor that Aseylum was alive, which caused the war to escalate and ruined any chance of peace.
Slaine's fuck up was BEFORE he met up with Inaho and the rest. Remember, he was running away from the castle after they discovered he knows Asseylum is alive.

I still blame him though.
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kingcity20 said:
Guilty Crown is called a train wreck by many but it honestly isn't a bad show, it has problems yes but as much as people try to criticize it, it did gain some good popularity and sold pretty well. The comparisons don't make sense though since they are completely different.

I think they are similar in that they share great soundtrack, visuals and emphasize on drama over consistent plot. So, while content is different, they make somewhat similar impression. GC was better executed though.
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Elfster said:
kingcity20 said:
Guilty Crown is called a train wreck by many but it honestly isn't a bad show, it has problems yes but as much as people try to criticize it, it did gain some good popularity and sold pretty well. The comparisons don't make sense though since they are completely different.

I think they are similar in that they share great soundtrack, visuals and emphasize on drama over consistent plot. So, while content is different, they make somewhat similar impression. GC was better executed though.


You can't really say that, GC is complete and Aldnoah Zero isn't. Let's not forget how crazy the first season of GC was.
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Elfster said:
kingcity20 said:
Guilty Crown is called a train wreck by many but it honestly isn't a bad show, it has problems yes but as much as people try to criticize it, it did gain some good popularity and sold pretty well. The comparisons don't make sense though since they are completely different.

I think they are similar in that they share great soundtrack, visuals and emphasize on drama over consistent plot. So, while content is different, they make somewhat similar impression. GC was better executed though.
i dont know how the discussion cam here but im with this elf guy...
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LonelyWizard said:
Elfster said:

I think they are similar in that they share great soundtrack, visuals and emphasize on drama over consistent plot. So, while content is different, they make somewhat similar impression. GC was better executed though.
i dont know how the discussion cam here but im with this elf guy...


And i'll repeat what i said about it being to early to say it was better executed. we have another 12 episodes left.
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kingcity20 said:
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i dont know how the discussion cam here but im with this elf guy...


And i'll repeat what i said about it being to early to say it was better executed. we have another 12 episodes left.
Since i watched both of them almost for the music/OSTs its already a lost war for Aldnoah "imo" they actually realized that some people watch it for music and used it a lot in the anime in GC's case

But you are right,anime still has a chance to become something better,i highly doubt after seeing stupidity of Slaine but we will see...
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LonelyWizard said:
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And i'll repeat what i said about it being to early to say it was better executed. we have another 12 episodes left.
Since i watched both of them almost for the music/OSTs its already a lost war for Aldnoah "imo" they actually realized that some people watch it for music and used it a lot in the anime in GC's case

But you are right,anime still has a chance to become something better,i highly doubt after seeing stupidity of Slaine but we will see...

inoho and sylum is still alive .....
and saline is joining the martian army in season 2 Lel
ofc this is awsome xDD
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LonelyWizard said:
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And i'll repeat what i said about it being to early to say it was better executed. we have another 12 episodes left.
Since i watched both of them almost for the music/OSTs its already a lost war for Aldnoah "imo" they actually realized that some people watch it for music and used it a lot in the anime in GC's case

But you are right,anime still has a chance to become something better,i highly doubt after seeing stupidity of Slaine but we will see...


Well slaine could always get brutally murdered by the princess, so all hope is not lost lol.
Nov 13, 2014 11:51 AM

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kingcity20 said:
LonelyWizard said:
Since i watched both of them almost for the music/OSTs its already a lost war for Aldnoah "imo" they actually realized that some people watch it for music and used it a lot in the anime in GC's case

But you are right,anime still has a chance to become something better,i highly doubt after seeing stupidity of Slaine but we will see...


Well slaine could always get brutally murdered by the princess, so all hope is not lost lol.


Oh that would be glorious
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Darklight0303 said:
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Well slaine could always get brutally murdered by the princess, so all hope is not lost lol.


Oh that would be glorious


Well we finally reached 100
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kingcity20 said:
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Oh that would be glorious


Well we finally reached 100
all thanks to slaine
Nov 14, 2014 9:00 AM
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kingcity20 said:
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See people still raging on the thread but anyways

Slaine could not trust Inoha as you've seen from the previous episodes.
It was still stupid to save the person who is trying to assassinate Seylum.
Inoha is trigger happy around Slaine for some reason once shooting him out of the sky and then trying to shoot him just then.

Imagine if Inoha did not shoot slaine out the sky which led to him being tortured everything could have gone smoothly.


You keep missing the point that it was SLAINE who was trigger happy. Slaine shot first and missed so Inaho shot him down, Slaine pulled the gun out on a guy who was both injured and crawling with his back turned to him. I don't care who is better between Inaho and Slaine but don't misconstrue the facts. The trigger happy one was Slaine, Inaho just fired back whenever he was shot at. First time around he got Slaine and slaine missed, second time he got hit before he got the shot off.
In episode 7 at the ending Inaho was the one trigger happy he shot slaine out the sky and slaine asked "are you my enemy?" and Inaho said "You are my enemy"
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Jakerams said:
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You keep missing the point that it was SLAINE who was trigger happy. Slaine shot first and missed so Inaho shot him down, Slaine pulled the gun out on a guy who was both injured and crawling with his back turned to him. I don't care who is better between Inaho and Slaine but don't misconstrue the facts. The trigger happy one was Slaine, Inaho just fired back whenever he was shot at. First time around he got Slaine and slaine missed, second time he got hit before he got the shot off.
In episode 7 at the ending Inaho was the one trigger happy he shot slaine out the sky and slaine asked "are you my enemy?" and Inaho said "You are my enemy"


Slaine shot first. Go back to the episode freeze it RIGHT before and slow motion. And see that the first shot comes from teh double barrel of Slaine's TURRET. Second shot comes from Inaho. Jesus. FUCKING. CHRIST are you blind?
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Darklight0303 said:
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In episode 7 at the ending Inaho was the one trigger happy he shot slaine out the sky and slaine asked "are you my enemy?" and Inaho said "You are my enemy"


Slaine shot first. Go back to the episode freeze it RIGHT before and slow motion. And see that the first shot comes from teh double barrel of Slaine's TURRET. Second shot comes from Inaho. Jesus. FUCKING. CHRIST are you blind?
Saw it but if you look at the positioning of everything the double barrel had no possible way of hitting Inaho.
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Jakerams said:
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Slaine shot first. Go back to the episode freeze it RIGHT before and slow motion. And see that the first shot comes from teh double barrel of Slaine's TURRET. Second shot comes from Inaho. Jesus. FUCKING. CHRIST are you blind?
Saw it but if you look at the positioning of everything the double barrel had no possible way of hitting Inaho.


Doesn't matter. He STILL shot first. When a soldier is fired at do you really expect him to NOT fire back? Seriously just accept it. Slaine fucked up. And he continued to fuck up every step of the way after that.
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Darklight0303 said:
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Saw it but if you look at the positioning of everything the double barrel had no possible way of hitting Inaho.


Doesn't matter. He STILL shot first. When a soldier is fired at do you really expect him to NOT fire back? Seriously just accept it. Slaine fucked up. And he continued to fuck up every step of the way after that.
It never once showed that it fired at Inaho especially from that distance he would have gotten him if he could. Inaho fired because he has trust issues with only Slaine.
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Jakerams said:
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Doesn't matter. He STILL shot first. When a soldier is fired at do you really expect him to NOT fire back? Seriously just accept it. Slaine fucked up. And he continued to fuck up every step of the way after that.
It never once showed that it fired at Inaho especially from that distance he would have gotten him if he could. Inaho fired because he has trust issues with only Slaine.
Imagine,you are in a war against a super power,you are struggling to survive...One of your enemy plane shots at you and misses(PS:Inaho cant see Slaine's face or mind like we do) what would you expect him to think?Should he hope that the enemy is a conveniently nice guy who accidentally shot?Or shot back reflexively to survive?
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LonelyWizard said:
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It never once showed that it fired at Inaho especially from that distance he would have gotten him if he could. Inaho fired because he has trust issues with only Slaine.
Imagine,you are in a war against a super power,you are struggling to survive...One of your enemy plane shots at you and misses(PS:Inaho cant see Slaine's face or mind like we do) what would you expect him to think?Should he hope that the enemy is a conveniently nice guy who accidentally shot?Or shot back reflexively to survive?
The problem is Inaho showed to be able to that stuff any other time and yet he trust everyone except Slaine.
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Jakerams said:
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Imagine,you are in a war against a super power,you are struggling to survive...One of your enemy plane shots at you and misses(PS:Inaho cant see Slaine's face or mind like we do) what would you expect him to think?Should he hope that the enemy is a conveniently nice guy who accidentally shot?Or shot back reflexively to survive?
The problem is Inaho showed to be able to that stuff any other time and yet he trust everyone except Slaine.
Yes,he trusted everyone he saw,and everyone who is not in a enemy combat plane/robot who just shot at him and can easily kill him...The thing is not about how a good guy Inaho is,the real question is how retard can Slaine be?
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LonelyWizard said:
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The problem is Inaho showed to be able to that stuff any other time and yet he trust everyone except Slaine.
Yes,he trusted everyone he saw,and everyone who is not in a enemy combat plane/robot who just shot at him and can easily kill him...The thing is not about how a good guy Inaho is,the real question is how retard can Slaine be?
Slaine screwed up at the ending but Inaho was the one who couldn't trust Slaine from the start and yet he trust every other person.
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Jakerams said:
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Yes,he trusted everyone he saw,and everyone who is not in a enemy combat plane/robot who just shot at him and can easily kill him...The thing is not about how a good guy Inaho is,the real question is how retard can Slaine be?
Slaine screwed up at the ending but Inaho was the one who couldn't trust Slaine from the start and yet he trust every other person.
He had "NO REASON" to trust...Slaine didnt screw at the ending he screwed at every part...I dont really understand...You guys really watched the anime right?
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LonelyWizard said:
He had "NO REASON" to trust...Slaine didnt screw at the ending he screwed at every part...I dont really understand...You guys really watched the anime right?


I ask myself that every single time I see someone defending the idiot. =_=
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LonelyWizard said:
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Slaine screwed up at the ending but Inaho was the one who couldn't trust Slaine from the start and yet he trust every other person.
He had "NO REASON" to trust...Slaine didnt screw at the ending he screwed at every part...I dont really understand...You guys really watched the anime right?
Jakerams said:
LonelyWizard said:
Yes,he trusted everyone he saw,and everyone who is not in a enemy combat plane/robot who just shot at him and can easily kill him...The thing is not about how a good guy Inaho is,the real question is how retard can Slaine be?
Slaine screwed up at the ending but Inaho was the one who couldn't trust Slaine from the start and yet he trust every other person.


Why would he trust a person that no only is from the other army, he fails to even explain himself properly. Slaine could have saved himself so much trouble if he had just said, "i'm a personal friend of the princess"
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kingcity20 said:
LonelyWizard said:
He had "NO REASON" to trust...Slaine didnt screw at the ending he screwed at every part...I dont really understand...You guys really watched the anime right?
Jakerams said:
Slaine screwed up at the ending but Inaho was the one who couldn't trust Slaine from the start and yet he trust every other person.


Why would he trust a person that no only is from the other army, he fails to even explain himself properly. Slaine could have saved himself so much trouble if he had just said, "i'm a personal friend of the princess"
That way plot wouldnt progress...Im no critic but thats what i would call a bad writing...Slaine's convenient retardness...
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Funny thing is Inaho was the one who screwed up by not trusting Slaine to begin with. Slaine did help Inaho in a battle so he could have atleast given it some thought.
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Jakerams said:
Funny thing is Inaho was the one who screwed up by not trusting Slaine to begin with. Slaine did help Inaho in a battle so he could have atleast given it some thought.


See that doesn't fly. What guarantee does Inaho have that they didn't do that just to get them to think he's an ally only to be taken to the princess and kill her. Inaho acted LOGICALLY especially when SLaine didn't answer ANY questions and then even pointed the turrets at him AND even fired on him. Sorry. Slaine fucked up. This. Is. THE. TRUTH.
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Funny thing is Inaho was the one who screwed up by not trusting Slaine to begin with. Slaine did help Inaho in a battle so he could have atleast given it some thought.


See that doesn't fly. What guarantee does Inaho have that they didn't do that just to get them to think he's an ally only to be taken to the princess and kill her. Inaho acted LOGICALLY especially when SLaine didn't answer ANY questions and then even pointed the turrets at him AND even fired on him. Sorry. Slaine fucked up. This. Is. THE. TRUTH.
Inaho fucked up by not trusting Slaine to begin with who took a bullet?
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Darklight0303 said:
Jakerams said:
Funny thing is Inaho was the one who screwed up by not trusting Slaine to begin with. Slaine did help Inaho in a battle so he could have atleast given it some thought.


See that doesn't fly. What guarantee does Inaho have that they didn't do that just to get them to think he's an ally only to be taken to the princess and kill her. Inaho acted LOGICALLY especially when SLaine didn't answer ANY questions and then even pointed the turrets at him AND even fired on him. Sorry. Slaine fucked up. This. Is. THE. TRUTH.

To much hate to Slaine.
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See that doesn't fly. What guarantee does Inaho have that they didn't do that just to get them to think he's an ally only to be taken to the princess and kill her. Inaho acted LOGICALLY especially when SLaine didn't answer ANY questions and then even pointed the turrets at him AND even fired on him. Sorry. Slaine fucked up. This. Is. THE. TRUTH.

To much hate to Slaine.
I dont hate him,im disgusted of him...I wanted to feel sorry for him the whole time but i cant feel sorry for someone who deserves everything happened to him...
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Jakerams said:
Darklight0303 said:


See that doesn't fly. What guarantee does Inaho have that they didn't do that just to get them to think he's an ally only to be taken to the princess and kill her. Inaho acted LOGICALLY especially when SLaine didn't answer ANY questions and then even pointed the turrets at him AND even fired on him. Sorry. Slaine fucked up. This. Is. THE. TRUTH.
Inaho fucked up by not trusting Slaine to begin with who took a bullet?


No Inaho did not fuck up. It was all Slaine's fault. Holy fuck you really are blind.
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Watch us learn that the princess's grandfather have a secret that whenever she is killed, she revives or has a another double like the last time. If that happens, I will presume she is a god :p, Slaine, advice for you, you get caught by either side, you are dead cause know you are a rogue and also did not kill Saazbaum considering you did not shoot him fatally!


Yeah I am thinking Princess will asspull revive and then revive Inaho "returning the favor" for ntrkissingsaving her



I would rather have that be the case than a whole season with Slaine as the main character, even if it is ridiculous.
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Yeah I am thinking Princess will asspull revive and then revive Inaho "returning the favor" for ntrkissingsaving her



I would rather have that be the case than a whole season with Slaine as the main character, even if it is ridiculous.
*plot twist:There exists lots of Inaho clons,thats why he has no emotions because he is not human...
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I would rather have that be the case than a whole season with Slaine as the main character, even if it is ridiculous.
*plot twist:There exists lots of Inaho clons,thats why he has no emotions because he is not human...

It is what I though in the series begin, I dont know what to think right now.
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*plot twist:There exists lots of Inaho clons,thats why he has no emotions because he is not human...

It is what I though in the series begin, I dont know what to think right now.
Maybe Slaine's father mass produced those Inaho clones in case of his stupid son mess up and kills the only hope of humanity...
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Wow, just wow. That went from a solid 8, straight to a feeble 6.

Never before have I deducted point from an anime merely because of an ending, but I guess there's a first time fpr everything. I'm glad I marathonned this show in a few days now: better than building up to this dissapointment for a week or more.

It's not even that I don't like the ending, it's just absolute bonkers, makes NO SENSE whatsoever. None of the parties achieved anything, the only thing in which characters acted consistent is in how they continueously acted counterproductive to their own goals, and as a matter of fact in Saazbaum's case I'm still completely oblivious as to what his aims actually were.

Truth be told, it has been like that for quite a few episodes, but you expect stuff to tie up in the end. It didn't. The reality is that the story writers just wanted to cram as much drama in this show as possible, with complete disregard of the characters or any form of plot. I'm sorry, I'm calling this cheap. It's a shame really, because the art was amazing and I did like some of the characters, mostly those that were not important enough to !@#$%^&*( up for the sake of suspense.

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Wow, just wow. That went from a solid 8, straight to a feeble 6.

Never before have I deducted point from an anime merely because of an ending, but I guess there's a first time fpr everything. I'm glad I marathonned this show in a few days now: better than building up to this dissapointment for a week or more.

It's not even that I don't like the ending, it's just absolute bonkers, makes NO SENSE whatsoever. None of the parties achieved anything, the only thing in which characters acted consistent is in how they continueously acted counterproductive to their own goals, and as a matter of fact in Saazbaum's case I'm still completely oblivious as to what his aims actually were.

Truth be told, it has been like that for quite a few episodes, but you expect stuff to tie up in the end. It didn't. The reality is that the story writers just wanted to cram as much drama in this show as possible, with complete disregard of the characters or any form of plot. I'm sorry, I'm calling this cheap. It's a shame really, because the art was amazing and I did like some of the characters, mostly those that were not important enough to !@#$%^&*( up for the sake of suspense.



The whole structure of Aldnoah. Zero is based off of their quote "Let Justice be done through the heavens fall", meaning justice must be realized regardless of consequences. To be more specific it follows the guidelines of Piso's Justice. Aldnoah. Zero succeeds in that message, but i do understand your discontent
with what happened in the episode.

They didn't just pull stuff out of their butts. They had a storyline/guideline which they executed.

I don't think character backstory/development was important to Aldnoah zero which sucks.

It's an entertaining anime non the less.
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I found it quite good, with all the drama and everything. That cliffhanger really caught me unawares.
Nov 18, 2014 1:52 AM

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Laionidas said:
Wow, just wow. That went from a solid 8, straight to a feeble 6.

Never before have I deducted point from an anime merely because of an ending, but I guess there's a first time fpr everything. I'm glad I marathonned this show in a few days now: better than building up to this dissapointment for a week or more.

It's not even that I don't like the ending, it's just absolute bonkers, makes NO SENSE whatsoever. None of the parties achieved anything, the only thing in which characters acted consistent is in how they continueously acted counterproductive to their own goals, and as a matter of fact in Saazbaum's case I'm still completely oblivious as to what his aims actually were.

Truth be told, it has been like that for quite a few episodes, but you expect stuff to tie up in the end. It didn't. The reality is that the story writers just wanted to cram as much drama in this show as possible, with complete disregard of the characters or any form of plot. I'm sorry, I'm calling this cheap. It's a shame really, because the art was amazing and I did like some of the characters, mostly those that were not important enough to !@#$%^&*( up for the sake of suspense.



Don't know why you are calling this the ending, when it is only the halfway point. It is clearly shown in the last episode, and has been known for quite a while.
Anyway.

Saazbaum: Man who betrays his Nation/Planet due to the corruption of the hierarchy, ends up misdirecting his anger towards someone innocent in his search for revenge. Only to leave his Nation in a state of civil war, and his adversaries in the brink of extinction.

Princess: A girl with an unrealistic sense of peace and justice, only for it to slap her in her face when one of her own plans her assassination. She admits to the faults of her Ideals, and accepts the fact that her actions have led to the current situation. Instead of sitting around and beating herself up about it, she goes to the front lines and attempts to stop the war. Succeeding in dealing a blow to the rebellion, but ultimately failing to put an end to things.

Inaho: A guy driven by logic and intelligence with a realistic view of war. Outwitting opponents by not over thinking, and neither underestimating his opponents, or overestimating his own abilities. Deals a critical blow to the rebellion, only to be interrupted due to unforeseen circumstances. He ends up being dealt with what could be a fatal wound, due to throwing a hail mary (although irrational) when he let emotions get the best of him; although at that point there was probably nothing he could do to prevent it.

Slaine: A guy enslaved to the side opposing his birthplace, with ideals driven by emotion, and blind loyalty to his princess. Who attempts to rescue her only to fail again and again, whether it be by bad luck or his own faults. He ends up unsure what side he belongs to, and not knowing what he should be fighting for. In his confusion he ends up saving the man who would later wound the princess, and shooting the guy who has been protecting the princess all along. Now seems to be the hero to the nation that enslaved him, but the enemy of both his birthplace and the princess he adored.

I don't know how that doesn't sound like both good character development, and a good plot. Not only that, it's also a perfect set up for the second half of this series. Add Piso's justice to the mix of that, which is Justice being served no matter the consequence, and you get a good expectation of what is to come.
KamiCityNov 18, 2014 1:56 AM
Nov 18, 2014 1:59 AM

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The whole structure of Aldnoah. Zero is based off of their quote "Let Justice be done through the heavens fall", meaning justice must be realized regardless of consequences. To be more specific it follows the guidelines of Piso's Justice.


Well I get the justice at any costs, but in this case it was just unecessarily adding to the bill.

Even if we take Piso's justice literally, to the extreme, no one's justice was served here. So, Slaine killed Inaho because he was his enemy? Inaho is only his enemy because Slaine can't decide which side he is on. Piso's justice is all about following an idea or conviction to the letter, the problem is that neither Slaine nor Saazbaum seem to have a clue/idea/conviction to begin with.

kingcity20 said:
Don't know why you are calling this the ending, when it is only the halfway point. It is clearly shown in the last episode, and has been known for quite a while.
Anyway.


Because after S01E12 this show can't be salvaged?

Seriously though, I just meant the end of the season. Even with a second season in the pipeline, I can be perfectly discontent with how the first ended =P
LaionidasNov 18, 2014 2:02 AM
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Laionidas said:
bayanime14 said:
The whole structure of Aldnoah. Zero is based off of their quote "Let Justice be done through the heavens fall", meaning justice must be realized regardless of consequences. To be more specific it follows the guidelines of Piso's Justice.


Well I get the justice at any costs, but in this case it was just unecessarily adding to the bill.

Even if we take Piso's justice literally, to the extreme, no one's justice was served here. So, Slaine killed Inaho because he was his enemy? Inaho is only his enemy because Slaine can't decide which side he is on. Piso's justice is all about following an idea or conviction to the letter, the problem is that neither Slaine nor Saazbaum seem to have a clue/idea/conviction to begin with.

kingcity20 said:
Don't know why you are calling this the ending, when it is only the halfway point. It is clearly shown in the last episode, and has been known for quite a while.
Anyway.


Because after S01E12 this show can't be salvaged?

Seriously though, I just meant the end of the season. Even with a second season in the pipeline, I can be perfectly discontent with how the first ended =P


you make valid points
Nov 18, 2014 8:40 PM

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o goody a hardcore cliffhanger 2 keep us in suspense till the nxt season.....
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