| My manly tears: The dream-sequences. Also want to hear Suwabe Junichi's voice shaken-up/near-tears during the Archer/Shirou battle. "That's right! I admired his desire to save people because it was beautiful!". Emphasis on Archer "cursing himself" while exchanging blows. The conclusion - Archer shielding Shirou - "you beat him" - followed by all of day 16, plus the epilogue of course. Moe scenes: 1) Saber "stalking" Shirou to school/archery club. 2) Archer princess-carrying Shirou away from Caster lol. 3) The date scene with Rin/Shirou/Saber being visualized and expanded. 4) Lancer being Lancer 5) All Rin-Sama moments lol. Action: Everything!? Yep. -- Just to name a few |
| There was a pretty good talk between Shirou and Archer during day 5, when Rin has him take Shirou home shortly after the Rider fight in the woods. I liked the antagonism between the two during their talk about servants, how Shirou "cannot bring himself to like this guy" as though he subconsciously knows.....something. Question: Does Archer already [/i]know[/i] at this point? |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I always interpreted that Archer figured out during the prologue when he saw Shirou for the first time (stabbed by Lancer), and confirmed it when Rin saved him with the Jewel. |
-Shuda- said: I always interpreted that Archer figured out during the prologue when he saw Shirou for the first time (stabbed by Lancer), and confirmed it when Rin saved him with the Jewel. The anime version of the prologue kind of gave me that feeling as well, the way he said that the jewel suits Rin kind of felt that way to me. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: -Shuda- said: I always interpreted that Archer figured out during the prologue when he saw Shirou for the first time (stabbed by Lancer), and confirmed it when Rin saved him with the Jewel. The anime version of the prologue kind of gave me that feeling as well, the way he said that the jewel suits Rin kind of felt that way to me. Maybe I'm recalling it wrong, but I'm pretty sure he says that line in the VN as well. Also, this is from the Wiki |
| Well, he does. It just felt like it was emphasized a bit more in the anime to me is all. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: Ahh, yes, definitely agree on the emphasis. On that same note, Ufotable is being pretty "bold" with the connection as well. I want to see how some fresh viewers will take it.Well, he does. It just felt like it was emphasized a bit more in the anime to me is all. |
-Shuda- said: insan3priest said: Ahh, yes, definitely agree on the emphasis. On that same note, Ufotable is being pretty "bold" with the connection as well. I want to see how some fresh viewers will take it.Well, he does. It just felt like it was emphasized a bit more in the anime to me is all. Yeah, on one hand it may lead people to make the connection sooner but on the other hand it is just working really well for me so far. In retrospect, there were quite a lot of hints in the Fate route (Archer's advice and Shirou using it to project Saber's sword, for one) so I think it evens out. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| There are a few. One is when Rin makes the contract with Saber. That scene was so epic for me in the VN. Another is Gilgamesh vs. Beserker. This scene is just Gilgamesh kicking his ass but I got the feels! Even though Illya has to die T_T. I forgot this one but when Shirou says to Lancer that he cant touch Rin, that was one I forgot but is also a scene I want to see. They better choose it since there are 3 options for that part and it is possible they choose one of the other two. |
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DarkShards said: I forgot this one but when Shirou says to Lancer that he cant touch Rin, that was one I forgot but is also a scene I want to see. They better choose it since there are 3 options for that part and it is possible they choose one of the other two. Watch this be a BD added scene..... |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: -Shuda- said: Ahh, yes, definitely agree on the emphasis. On that same note, Ufotable is being pretty "bold" with the connection as well. I want to see how some fresh viewers will take it. Yeah, on one hand it may lead people to make the connection sooner but on the other hand it is just working really well for me so far. In retrospect, there were quite a lot of hints in the Fate route (Archer's advice and Shirou using it to project Saber's sword, for one) so I think it evens out. Yeah, my current re-read of the VN made me appreciate some of the hints/connections during the Fate route even more. The advice was a huge one. I also remember once when he outright tells Shirou that "What you are trying to be is nothing more than a cleaner" and "but can you still-- (cuts off)" -Chase that ideal without ever turning back-. The foreshadowing/set-ups for the "next route" is always nice to see. In both Tsukihime and in Fate. |
| Btw, I had a a dream last night that Archer revealed to Shriou who he is by......cooking for him. Weird, yet I dare say oddly fitting. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: Btw, I had a a dream last night that Archer revealed to Shriou who he is by......cooking for him. Weird, yet I dare say oddly fitting. LOL. |
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WrongPriest said: insan3priest said: Was Archer wearing an apron? Was that all he was wearing?Btw, I had a a dream last night that Archer revealed to Shriou who he is by......cooking for him. Weird, yet I dare say oddly fitting. Lol, no to both of them. edit: At least I don't think so, I tend to not remember much from my dreams. |
Ston3_FreeN7Oct 22, 2014 7:27 PM
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Kirei rescues Illya. Oh, wrong route... |
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-Shuda- said: Archa rout-o Achieved by participating in a cooking competition against mysterious stranger on day two. The whole route is literally ONLY cooking scenes. Kotomine gets killed by mapo tofu being too spicy. |
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CookingPriest said: -Shuda- said: Archa rout-o Achieved by participating in a cooking competition against mysterious stranger on day two. The whole route is literally ONLY cooking scenes. Kotomine gets killed by mapo tofu being too spicy. You underestimate our progenitor. True masterchef competition. |
WrongPriest said: CookingPriest said: Archa rout-o Achieved by participating in a cooking competition against mysterious stranger on day two. The whole route is literally ONLY cooking scenes. Kotomine gets killed by mapo tofu being too spicy. You underestimate our progenitor. True masterchef competition. Archer: "The CHef of Justice nomination is a LIE! The poor taste of your clients will betray you! They will call you a rip off of Jamie Oliver and you will be left alone cooking on the hill!" Shirou: "I know! But still! I WANT TO! MAKE! THE PERFECT! OMELETTE!!!!*EMIYA starts playing* *Traces a frying pan* |
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| Caren, Kirei and Ciel as the judges for competition. |
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CookingPriest said: WrongPriest said: You underestimate our progenitor. True masterchef competition. Archer: "The CHef of Justice nomination is a LIE! The poor taste of your clients will betray you! They will call you a rip off of Jamie Oliver and you will be left alone cooking on the hill!" Shirou: "I know! But still! I WANT TO! MAKE! THE PERFECT! OMELETTE!!!!*EMIYA starts playing* *Traces a frying pan* You gotta make this your sig, or at least part of it. Can I get an amen? |
| There has to be a "I am the bone of my cook" joke in her somewhere, right? Also, I'm looking forward to the first dream about Archer's past to see how they do it. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: There has to be a "I am the bone of my cook" joke in her somewhere, right? What would we do without "bone of my cook" being in her? |
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CookingPriest said: [spoiler]insan3priest said: There has to be a "I am the bone of my cook" joke in her somewhere, right? What would we do without "bone of my cook" being in her?  |
WrongPriest said: CookingPriest said: [spoiler]What would we do without "bone of my cook" being in her? The cook in her is rather boneless. |
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CookingPriest said: insan3priest said: There has to be a "I am the bone of my cook" joke in her somewhere, right? What would we do without "bone of my cook" being in her? Goddamnit..... I suppose it's too late to edit. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
natsucule said: WrongPriest said: [spoiler] The cook in her is rather boneless. Remember how many blows he took from Kirei? I'd say he's got quite the bone on him.  |
| blows are kotomine's Job. |
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| That final fight in Heaven's Feel was so sick, man. That CG of Shirou and Kirei's face is maybe even my favorite, but I'd have to think about it. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I'd still say the final confrontation in Aiyoku no Eustia takes the cake as far as epic fights go :> |
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| Shirou telling Lancer he can't touch Rin The final battle between Shirou and Archer at the temple And the one and only true answer: Too many to mention |
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| I want a VN with fights on scale and badassery that utawarerumono had(still one of my alltime favorite VN games) |
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WrongPriest said: eh there's a partial patch for the prologue + chapters 1&2, after that Yandere Translations pretty much died so 3, 4 and 5 are untranslated and doesn't look like that's going to change anytime soon, sorry :/HaXXspetten said: I'd still say the final confrontation in Aiyoku no Eustia takes the cake as far as epic fights go :> Looks like my kind of jam (jokes on you I eat all jam). Can I get it anywhere where the TL isn't at 5%? Sorry I am pathetic Australia scrub. and as much as I love Eustia I wouldn't particularly recommend it if you can't finish it on your own (I.E: including the two thirds or so of it in Japanese) because you'll pretty much just be left off at a cliffhanger where the English part ends :s seriously though, the opening alone is enough to get you hyped :> |
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| Archer's fight versus Caster during day 6 was pretty cool reading it again, I forgot that he actually uses his bow a fair bit in UBW even if he uses freaking swords as his arrows. Also, "Drown in your ideals and die" is a pretty great line. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
WrongPriest said: insan3priest said: That final fight in Heaven's Feel was so sick, man. That CG of Shirou and Kirei's face is maybe even my favorite, but I'd have to think about it. Don't even get me started on that fight.. It is the basis on which I judge all other epic final confrontations. And that music.... Unnnnnggghh... if i were to compare my favorite final confrontations it would be: Muv-Luv alternative Final Confrontation > FSN Heaven Feel Final Confrontation > G Senjou no Maou final confrontation |
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| I love the fight between Shirou and Archer. The concept of fighting against oneself is so good. "The biggest enemy you have to deal with is yourself." Forever the best fight for me. The beauty of it lies on emotional impact. :3 Kirei is strong, yes, but he is just one outer force. |
Just_ChickenOct 23, 2014 9:12 AM
chickenonthepan said: I love the fight between Shirou and Archer. The concept of fighting against oneself is so good. "The biggest enemy you have to deal with is yourself." Forever the best fight for me. The beauty of it lies on emotional impact. :3 Kirei is strong, yes, but he is just one outer force. Yep. Fistfight is good and all, but Archer vs Shirou and Shirou vs Gil are THE definitive fights I rate ALL the stuff by. Basically if it does not look like a fucking space battle, its shit. RinPriest said: chickenonthepan said: I love the fight between Shirou and Archer. The concept of fighting against oneself is so good. "The biggest enemy you have to deal with is yourself." Forever the best fight for me. The beauty of it lies on emotional impact. :3 Kirei is strong, yes, but he is just one outer force. The best part is how its hinted all the time that this was going to happen in the fate route. The entire part of the VN where Shirou traces Caliburn is named "So as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works." Actually Fate route is HUGE bunch of foreshadowing, basically. |
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| 1. Kirei vs Shirou 2. Shirou vs Saber Alter 3. Shirou vs Gilgamesh 4. NLBW (does this even count as a fight?) 5. Lancer vs Archer (round two in UBW) |
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| 1. Shirou VS Gil. 2. Shirou VS Archer. 3. Sakura VS Rin (More of a stomp than a fight) 4. Saber VS Assassin. 5. Rin VS Caster / Archer VS Caster. 6. Kirei VS Shirou. 7. NLBW. 8. Lancer VS Archer. 9. Shirou/Rider vs Alter. |
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| Eh, I'll take Kirei vs. Shirou over Shirou vs. Gil any damn day. The former is just much more personal to me given how so similar the two of them are in their differences. Not that the Gil fight wasn't cool, particularly Shirou's awesome line and the UBW setting. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: Eh, I'll take Kirei vs. Shirou over Shirou vs. Gil any damn day. The former is just much more personal to me given how so similar the two of them are in their differences. Not that the Gil fight wasn't cool, particularly Shirou's awesome line and the UBW setting. The problem I have with Kirei/Shirou fight is that its pretty much a brutal durability contest between two dying gimps. And everything that needed to be said was already said at that point between them. Not as exciting. I liked Kirei's fate in , well, Fate, more. More fitting according to Karma, because I am in firm opinion that Kirei does NOT deserve a "fair" fight. Shirou vs Gil is pretty much The person with no self and ego VS the person with biggest self and ego. It was an ultimate test of Shirou's newfound resolve and the path he took to avoid Archer's fate. For me that was Shirou's height, the most badass moment Emiya Shirou ever did in FSN, that embodied everything he was both ideal and psychology-wise. |
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CookingPriest said: insan3priest said: Eh, I'll take Kirei vs. Shirou over Shirou vs. Gil any damn day. The former is just much more personal to me given how so similar the two of them are in their differences. Not that the Gil fight wasn't cool, particularly Shirou's awesome line and the UBW setting. The problem I have with Kirei/Shirou fight is that its pretty much a brutal durability contest between two dying gimps. And everything that needed to be said was already said at that point between them. Not as exciting. I liked Kirei's fate in , well, Fate, more. More fitting according to Karma, because I am in firm opinion that Kirei does NOT deserve a "fair" fight. Well, this is why it was interesting to me. There wasn't anything flashy about it, it was brutal and it was hard hitting. I loved it. I also like that Shirou didn't technically win. Again, not that I didn't like the Gil fight. I just think it misses the "punch" of the Archer vs. Shirou fight before. Keep in mind, however, that I'm going off of a fairly far off memory. Maybe my mind will change during this re-read. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: I also like that Shirou didn't technically win. Thats huge part of why I disliked it -t he ending of it. Kirei dies gracefully. Shirou simply outlasts it. Its a rerun of Archer VS Shirou fight of willpower, but without badass screaming, ideal clashes or swords breaking. While I came to appreciate it more latter on, the first time I read it I genuinely thought "well taht felt like a filler fight". Its very unfitting end for Kirei's existence. It fit Archer, it fit Shirou, but Kirei is an underhanded evil fuck who screws over people and NEVER does anything in a fair way. I felt his end was way too glorified for me int hat route. Fate Kirei's end ties with UBW Kirei's end(especially after reading FHA), but HF Kirei's end just felt like a fanpandering to Kirei fans for me. |
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| How could Heaven's Feels ending be pandering to Kirei fans? How would he even have fans at the time the VN was created and his character never even existed before hand? As for everything else. Noted, but considering how his character was handled and the whole light and dark thing between him and Shirou, I found it fitting. Shirou not being able to defeat him is like saying that "evil cannot be truly defeated" and that kind of fit the story HF told imo. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
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