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Sep 14, 2014 3:29 AM
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Ckan said:
The ending was one of the best parts of Katanagatari, but this is probably a matter of personal preference.
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Katanagatari is underrated.. I'm on episode 5 but I hate the way how the MC literally just one hits everyone, and he's also quite dense. It's really annoying ¬_¬ ...
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Sep 14, 2014 3:50 AM

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X3blizzard said:
Ckan said:
The ending was one of the best parts of Katanagatari, but this is probably a matter of personal preference.
Ah, but see, that's where the delicious mirroring and ironies come into play.



That was a pretty spaghetti TL;DR, but oh well. Nisio's interplaying interplays always makes me giddy with glee.
Sep 14, 2014 3:51 AM

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and "JOAOAA" is so much better?




...k then you have a shit taste and I pity you.


HxH_Fan you need to stop being a fan boy and start getting along with other people better cause if all you do is insult peoples taste in anime and act like eliteist scum you're gonna have no friends on mal or in real life (if you don't already). From what I have seen (on youtube) and what I have heard from you and other people HxH does look very overrated and very over hyped, however I have not seen it so I can not say that with 100% certainty.


I don't think it is possible to say that something is overrated if you haven't seen the show. And if it over hyped than maybe it has something good that attracts people.
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Needless is really underrated. It deservesfar more attention because although it's a short story it doesn't really have plotholes. Also it doesn't have a lot of fast pasted parts.

This is also a parody on shounen shows, so it shouldn't be taken to serious.
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Milk_is_Special said:
Needless is really underrated. It deservesfar more attention because although it's a short story it doesn't really have plotholes. Also it doesn't have a lot of fast pasted parts.

This is also a parody on shounen shows, so it shouldn't be taken to serious.


+1

I agree that Needless is underrated. It has some nice fights. and also that perverted priest (Adam Blade) was very funny.
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Zergneedsfood said:
Ending of Katanagatari was great.

Easily top 10 animu for me. :3

Katanagatari was so guud.

Nuclear bitch to....longest confession in anime--talk about a payoff. Yep, that was a good series.
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Jojo's Bizzare Adventure Stardust Crusaders. How a lot of people think S2 is better than S1 is beyond me. Stands are cool and everything but the story is a lot less focused and it's taking them ages to get to Egypt. I feel like most of the anime is clutter. The villain of the day format is getting draggy, repetitive and boring and a good chunk of the story can be discarded.
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beefsteakken said:
Jojo's Bizzare Adventure Stardust Crusaders. How a lot of people think S2 is better than S1 is beyond me. Stands are cool and everything but the story is a lot less focused and it's taking them ages to get to Egypt. I feel like most of the anime is clutter. The villain of the day format is getting draggy, repetitive and boring and a good chunk of the story can be discarded.

Nobody watches Jojo for the story, at least I don't. So the simplistic story of Part 3 is a lot better than the bland and mind numbing vampire crap, that pushes the suspension of disbelief through the roof in (2012).

I like the new cast of characters a lot more, they entertain me, and I prefer Jotaro over young Joseph. Only thing I miss from (2012) is Sugita's voice acting.

In terms of enjoyment, the first episode of part 3 alone, gave me more enjoyment, than the entirety of the 26 episodes of (2012). I like part 3 that much more, and Stand is a welcome change to the Hamon, which was pretty boring and had no room for further development and use.
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I don't know if I should give NGNL an 8 or a 7, in terms of enjoyment it would be a 9, however the art is weak/mediocre in my opinion, steph character is uni dimensional in terms of personality, boring and annoying, too much fan service without being ecchi, a boob without nipples is obviously for the fan service which I hate, if shows want to add fan service at least add ecchi to the tags and show decent boobs not a shitload of fan service and no decent boobs.

Anyways, I'd give it a 7 due to the fan service, steph being uni dimensional and art being mediocre, however the enjoyment was a 9 imo, so I might give it an 8 but I'm still not sure.
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sumusiko said:
I don't know if I should give NGNL an 8 or a 7, in terms of enjoyment it would be a 9, however the art is weak/mediocre in my opinion, steph character is uni dimensional in terms of personality, boring and annoying, too much fan service without being ecchi, a boob without nipples is obviously for the fan service which I hate, if shows want to add fan service at least add ecchi to the tags and show decent boobs not a shitload of fan service and no decent boobs.

Anyways, I'd give it a 7 due to the fan service, steph being uni dimensional and art being mediocre, however the enjoyment was a 9 imo, so I might give it an 8 but I'm still not sure.


Whatever everyone might say it is still a good damn comedy show meant for entertainment and just to relax from all the serious anime. I found NGNL extremely fun so 8 should be a decent rating. But, of course, it doesn't belong in top 30.
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robis798 said:
But, of course, it doesn't belong in top 30.
It does belong in the top 30, it had higher entertainment value then everything in the top 30.
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Space dandy still continues to not recieve the appreciation it deserves, this weeks episode was also excellent and completely unique to what any other anime could pull off, the ideas and world in this series are just one of a kind and truly special. Only 2 episodes left has me preparing myself to say goodbye to such a hot bed for creativity and originality that i may possibly not see again, still i am grateful that a story like this could exist in the first place

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Okashi--chan said:
robis798 said:
But, of course, it doesn't belong in top 30.
It does belong in the top 30, it had higher entertainment value then everything in the top 30.


It had a good entertainment value no doubt about it, but there were things that really bothered me, the art, Steph's personality, the fan service, if we add that into the equation it's not worth being in top 50 even honestly.
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sumusiko said:
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It does belong in the top 30, it had higher entertainment value then everything in the top 30.


It had a good entertainment value no doubt about it, but there were things that really bothered me, the art, Steph's personality, the fan service, if we add that into the equation it's not worth being in top 50 even honestly.
Why are you complaining about fan service in an ecchi show? and Steph's personality may not be the best, but that because blank stands out more then everyone
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Spiolered for length. I missed a lot -__-

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Okashi--chan said:
sumusiko said:


It had a good entertainment value no doubt about it, but there were things that really bothered me, the art, Steph's personality, the fan service, if we add that into the equation it's not worth being in top 50 even honestly.
Why are you complaining about fan service in an ecchi show? and Steph's personality may not be the best, but that because blank stands out more then everyone


If the ecchi was properly done I wouldn't complain, I'm just one of the guys who hates to see boobs every 10 seconds when they don't even have nipples.

Seems like ecchi is mild nudity, for me ecchi is boobs with nipples.
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Okashi--chan said:
robis798 said:
But, of course, it doesn't belong in top 30.
It does belong in the top 30, it had higher entertainment value then everything in the top 30.


Code geass, TTGL, GTO, Steins;Gate, FMA:B and some others are far more entertaining than NGNL.
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Mikatarukito said:
Okashi--chan said:
It does belong in the top 30, it had higher entertainment value then everything in the top 30.


Code geass, TTGL, GTO, Steins;Gate, FMA:B and some others are far more entertaining than NGNL.


I might add, that a show with ecchi genre should stay away from top 30.
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robis798 said:
a show with ecchi genre should stay away from top 30.
Because?
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robis798 said:
Mikatarukito said:


Code geass, TTGL, GTO, Steins;Gate, FMA:B and some others are far more entertaining than NGNL.


I might add, that a show with ecchi genre should stay away from top 30.


Shows that have ecchi to add depth to them instead of censoring certain parts or cutting off certain parts are fine, shows with ecchi just for the fan service and over use of ecchi should stay away from top 50
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NGNL should be number 1 just because of Jibril my bros
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Botato said:
robis798 said:
a show with ecchi genre should stay away from top 30.
Because?
What are you claiming Botato?
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johnyjohny said:
Botato said:
Because?
What are you claiming Botato?


He needs top 30's fap material. I jest
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Botato said:
robis798 said:
a show with ecchi genre should stay away from top 30.
Because?


Because ecchi shows uses fanservice and all the nudity is only shown for entertainment or some *cough* other purposes. It is in no way using in for adding depth to the show. These shows are just meant for entertainment with usually silly stories. Srsly r u baiting me?
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sumusiko said:
robis798 said:


I might add, that a show with ecchi genre should stay away from top 30.


Shows that have ecchi to add depth to them instead of censoring certain parts or cutting off certain parts are fine, shows with ecchi just for the fan service and over use of ecchi should stay away from top 50

So you agree that MN should never be top 50? It had a lot of unnecessary fanservice.
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sumusiko said:


Shows that have ecchi to add depth to them instead of censoring certain parts or cutting off certain parts are fine, shows with ecchi just for the fan service and over use of ecchi should stay away from top 50

So you agree that MN should never be top 50? It had a lot of unnecessary fanservice.


Such as? You see *naked* boobs a maximum of 5 times throughout the show and the author never focused on them that much, they were just there to add depth to the scene.

Although MN isn't on top 50 anyways.
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NGNL should be number 1 just because of Jibril my bros
yeah jibril and... sora? maybe?... the best characters in the series
for me it was not that bad NGNL, i mean ... the series know that your plot is half stupid, is not taken seriously and focuses more on the action, their unrealistic strategies. that's pretty good except when they put drama between the brother and sister, which is a complete crap, ecchi is also quite annoying, but there are people who like that sort of thing, i do not particularly like

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Just type Mirai Nikki fanservice.

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kokkoderrisch said:
Just type Mirai Nikki fanservice.



Could of at least put it as NSFW ¬_¬ ...
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kokkoderrisch said:
Just type Mirai Nikki fanservice.



Oh totally forgot about Hinata, you're right. Although the Yuno one wasn't that much fan service, I felt like it was just to strengthen their relationship, so it had a purpose, although the others were fanservice yes, although at least you don't see it every single episode and it uses some of the shots to add depth to the scene
which isn't what happens in most anime that features ecchi (such as NGNL for example)
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sumusiko said:
If the ecchi was properly done I wouldn't complain, I'm just one of the guys who hates to see boobs every 10 seconds when they don't even have nipples.

Seems like ecchi is mild nudity, for me ecchi is boobs with nipples.
but you are complaining, you admit you don't like the ecchi idea in NGNL, that's called complaining.
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Okashi--chan said:
sumusiko said:
If the ecchi was properly done I wouldn't complain, I'm just one of the guys who hates to see boobs every 10 seconds when they don't even have nipples.

Seems like ecchi is mild nudity, for me ecchi is boobs with nipples.
but you are complaining, you admit you don't like the ecchi idea in NGNL, that's called complaining.


Re read please. I said "If the ecchi WAS PROPERLY DONE I would NOT complain" therefore, I admit to being complaining, so what's the point of the reply?
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sumusiko said:
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but you are complaining, you admit you don't like the ecchi idea in NGNL, that's called complaining.


Re read please. I said "If the ecchi WAS PROPERLY DONE I would NOT complain" therefore, I admit to being complaining, so what's the point of the reply?
"if the ecchi was probably done" is subjective. just showing boobs with nipples doesn't make the ecchi well done.
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Okashi--chan said:
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Re read please. I said "If the ecchi WAS PROPERLY DONE I would NOT complain" therefore, I admit to being complaining, so what's the point of the reply?
"if the ecchi was probably done" is subjective. just showing boobs with nipples doesn't make the ecchi well done.


It's an opinion, deal with it. I've already said a few replies back that I also don't enjoy when shows exaggerate on the fanservice regardless of it being ecchi or not, it's fine if it adds depth, else it's just useless and annoying, one of the reasons why I quit KLK in the first episode.

You may like it but I don't like it, I never said NGNL was bad or anything like that, I just disliked the ecchi in it as it didn't add any depth to the show nor had any nipples which makes things even more annoying
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Jeez I asked a harmless question out of genuine curiosity, what's wrong with you people -.-

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Because ecchi shows uses fanservice and all the nudity is only shown for entertainment or some *cough* other purposes. It is in no way using in for adding depth to the show. These shows are just meant for entertainment with usually silly stories. Srsly r u baiting me?
Good, so where's the problem exactly?

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Oh totally forgot about Hinata, you're right. Although the Yuno one wasn't that much fan service, I felt like it was just to strengthen their relationship, so it had a purpose, although the others were fanservice yes, although at least you don't see it every single episode and it uses some of the shots to add depth to the scene
which isn't what happens in most anime that features ecchi (such as NGNL for example)
So basically other romance/harem shows with ecchi (which one can argue the fanservice does the exact same thing you just said it does for MN) have random fanservice but MN's fanservice adds depth and is important and should not count as a detriment to the the show? Why am I not surprised.
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sumusiko said:
You may like it but I don't like it, I never said NGNL was bad or anything like that, I just disliked the ecchi in it as it didn't add any depth to the show nor had any nipples which makes things even more annoying
Depth? NGNL was deep?
i know it's an opinion, but you did watch an ecchi show, that contains ecchi, and then you complain about it? i mean, dude, please.
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Okashi--chan said:
sumusiko said:
You may like it but I don't like it, I never said NGNL was bad or anything like that, I just disliked the ecchi in it as it didn't add any depth to the show nor had any nipples which makes things even more annoying
Depth? NGNL was deep?
i know it's an opinion, but you did watch an ecchi show, that contains ecchi, and then you complain about it? i mean, dude, please.
He didn't like how the ecchi was done. Not that it exists.

Which is fine I guess.
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sumusiko said:
Okashi--chan said:
"if the ecchi was probably done" is subjective. just showing boobs with nipples doesn't make the ecchi well done.


It's an opinion, deal with it. I've already said a few replies back that I also don't enjoy when shows exaggerate on the fanservice regardless of it being ecchi or not, it's fine if it adds depth, else it's just useless and annoying, one of the reasons why I quit KLK in the first episode.

You may like it but I don't like it, I never said NGNL was bad or anything like that, I just disliked the ecchi in it as it didn't add any depth to the show nor had any nipples which makes things even more annoying


Dropping KlK within the first episode?! Have you no shame?
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Botato said:
Jeez I asked a harmless question out of genuine curiosity, what's wrong with you people -.-

robis798 said:
Because ecchi shows uses fanservice and all the nudity is only shown for entertainment or some *cough* other purposes. It is in no way using in for adding depth to the show. These shows are just meant for entertainment with usually silly stories. Srsly r u baiting me?
Good, so where's the problem exactly?

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Oh totally forgot about Hinata, you're right. Although the Yuno one wasn't that much fan service, I felt like it was just to strengthen their relationship, so it had a purpose, although the others were fanservice yes, although at least you don't see it every single episode and it uses some of the shots to add depth to the scene
which isn't what happens in most anime that features ecchi (such as NGNL for example)
So basically other romance/harem shows with ecchi (which one can argue the fanservice does the exact same thing you just said it does for MN) have random fanservice but MN's fanservice adds depth and is important and should not count as a detriment to the the show? Why am I not surprised.



Oi, you really gotta stop chasing me around and trying to distort my words, I never said MN's fanservice was not detrimental, I just said a few replies back that when fanservice adds depth to a scene I like it, when it doesn't it's retarded, simple as that, I've said SOME scenes add depth to the show and gave you examples, while the others don't and are detrimental however you don't see the fanservice in every single episode of the show as you see in most ecchi anime.


@Okashi--chan You do know depth isn't necessarily linked with it being deep right?...

There's good ecchi shows and there's bad ecchi shows (again it's my opinion, deal with it) a good ecchi show will occasionally use ecchi to add depth to a scene where they would either have to censor the ecchi or cut the whole scene, a bad ecchi show uses ecchi for fanservice as it provides nothing of worth to the story.
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Botato said:
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Depth? NGNL was deep?
i know it's an opinion, but you did watch an ecchi show, that contains ecchi, and then you complain about it? i mean, dude, please.
He didn't like how the ecchi was done. Not that it exists.

Which is fine I guess.
But he says the ecchi scenes in MN are good and add depth to the story. baffling.
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Okashi--chan said:
Botato said:
He didn't like how the ecchi was done. Not that it exists.

Which is fine I guess.
But he says the ecchi scenes in MN are good and add depth to the story. baffling.


Since I'm talking with someone who believes depth is linked with deep I'll stop replying to you until you can properly read my replies.
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Mikatarukito said:
Dropping KlK within the first episode?! Have you no shame?
For once, he did something right.

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Oi, you really gotta stop chasing me around and trying to distort my words, I never said MN's fanservice was not detrimental, I just said a few replies back that when fanservice adds depth to a scene I like it, when it doesn't it's retarded, simple as that, I've said SOME scenes add depth to the show and gave you examples, while the others don't and are detrimental however you don't see the fanservice in every single episode of the show as you see in most ecchi anime.
Difference is, MN is not supposed to be an ecchi, while the other shows you're complaining about are in fact ecchi.

Also your examples are laughable tbh. Like I said those examples of yours are not exclusive to MN and the same can be said about every ecchi that has romance ever. Which makes up a decent portion of the ecchi genre anyway.
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sumusiko said:
You do know depth isn't necessarily linked with it being deep right?...
I was being sarcastic there *wink wink*

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There's good ecchi shows and there's bad ecchi shows (again it's my opinion, deal with it) a good ecchi show will occasionally use ecchi to add depth to a scene where they would either have to censor the ecchi or cut the whole scene, a bad ecchi show uses ecchi for fanservice as it provides nothing of worth to the story.
i would find it easier to accept your opinion if you provide a good point rather then "i don't like it, it's my opinion, deal with it"
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Botato said:
Mikatarukito said:
Dropping KlK within the first episode?! Have you no shame?
For once, he did something right.

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Oi, you really gotta stop chasing me around and trying to distort my words, I never said MN's fanservice was not detrimental, I just said a few replies back that when fanservice adds depth to a scene I like it, when it doesn't it's retarded, simple as that, I've said SOME scenes add depth to the show and gave you examples, while the others don't and are detrimental however you don't see the fanservice in every single episode of the show as you see in most ecchi anime.
Difference is, MN is not supposed to be an ecchi, while the other shows you're complaining about are in fact ecchi.

Also you're examples are laughable tbh. Like I said those examples of yours are not exclusive to MN and the same can be said about every ecchi that has romance ever. Which makes up a decent portion of the ecchi genre anyway.


Of course they aren't exclusive to MN, there's always scenes that can be compared to other anime, that doesn't mean it didn't add depth to the scene by adding ecchi into it.

From my experience in ecchi (which isn't much, To Love RU, NGNL, KLK, and some other I forget)
Ecchi is not used to add depth, perhaps like you said, they aren't romances but I hate to see boobs every 10 seconds when it adds nothing to the show other than to make *some* viewers entertained.
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Okashi--chan said:
sumusiko said:
You do know depth isn't necessarily linked with it being deep right?...
I was being sarcastic there *wink wink*

sumusiko said:
There's good ecchi shows and there's bad ecchi shows (again it's my opinion, deal with it) a good ecchi show will occasionally use ecchi to add depth to a scene where they would either have to censor the ecchi or cut the whole scene, a bad ecchi show uses ecchi for fanservice as it provides nothing of worth to the story.
i would find it easier to accept your opinion if you provide a good point rather then "i don't like it, it's my opinion, deal with it"


Thing is I'm not trying to prove you wrong, nor am I trying to prove myself right, my opinion is that a good ecchi uses ecchi to add depth, a bad ecchi doesn't and exaggerates, simple. There's always 2 sides of the coin, a good ecchi for you can be what a bad ecchi for me is, doesn't make the show any worse or any better, it's a matter of opinions.

It's different approaches inside the same genre, doesn't mean one is better than the other
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sumusiko said:
I hate to see boobs every 10 seconds
Then don't watch ecchi.

Also *insert obligatory "you're gay" comment*
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Botato said:
sumusiko said:
I hate to see boobs every 10 seconds
Then don't watch ecchi.


Not all ecchi do it though
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sumusiko said:
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Then don't watch ecchi.


Not all ecchi do it though
Yeah most of them are pantyshots every 10 seconds.
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Then don't watch ecchi.


Not all ecchi do it though
You just said you don't know much about the genre.
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