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Apr 27, 2009 10:01 PM
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Hi everyone, I am doing a research paper on the topic, and would love if everyone could help with my survey.

http://qtrial.qualtrics.com/SE?SID=SV_8dzpiowOEx0SSeE&SVID=Prod

I am also very interested in hearing everyone's thoughts on how different anime fans nowadays (online and offline) are different or the same as before internet fansubs and downloads became available.

Thanks you.

PS: I would also like to be able to do a few in-depth AIM or email interviews with people who can share their experience with me. Please message me your SN or email address if you are willing to help out!:)
Apr 27, 2009 10:08 PM
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I'm interested. I just did the survey but I'd like to do something more in depth.
Apr 27, 2009 11:37 PM
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I'm interested too. While people might think that there are more and more Anime fans nowadays, I really think that Pure Fans are a dying breed and the ones replacing them are over the top 12 year olds that scream and frolick and think they know their stuff.
Apr 27, 2009 11:46 PM
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Has online downloads changed anime fans?

Yes. They're whinier and bitchier than ever.
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Apr 28, 2009 3:07 AM
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Online downloads practically made me an anime fan. I was watching anime for many many years through television and even VHS but the variety of shows I could watch was extremely limited, not to mention I had no idea about what was happening in animeland before the internet. So yes if not for the online downloads I would be one of those who once liked anime but had no idea what that was and had stopped watching a long time ago.
Apr 28, 2009 3:41 AM
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I filled out your survey (and was perhaps a little long winded on one answer LOL). Downloads changed anime fans? Absolutely. And not for the better. This is certainly a subject I could rant on and on about, so I'm definitely open to talk more about it. =)

Apr 28, 2009 5:01 AM
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^^ cool ^^
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Apr 28, 2009 5:01 AM
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The survey is focusing too much on clubs. I doubt a lot of folks are members of such clubs. I was a member during college but it was too crappy so I just attended once and dropped it. I just hanged out with my friends on the dorm drinking and smoking during club time.

Anyways. There is an element of hard work during the old days that will test a fans' fanaticism. Tapes were traded and copied. If my anime watching buddies don't have them, I go to this very niche anime shop that has long since closed down to order the title that I want. It was difficult and we rewatch our tapes til' they're worn out.

Also, during my high-school days, almost everyone in class wants to borrow the anime tapes. It was sort of a "cool" thing for everyone. This is the reason that I was surprised that otakus in Japan were ostracized.
Apr 28, 2009 5:09 AM
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i just finished with ur servey...i find it very interesting...
Apr 28, 2009 6:10 AM

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Oh yes it's a given.

When I started watching anime, it was from a guy that had compilations of eps 01 on vhs and we laughingly called him god :) He had all sorts of anime series we had never heard of. We'd gather at his place and just soak up anything at all he had. We didn't care what it was, we just wanted him to get more.

Today, anime is easy to buy, easy to rent, you can get it nearly anywhere online. You can be nice and buy it, or decide fuck you and download it in original dvd retail format.

There simply was no 'download' source in my anime beginnings. Subs were things you found from genuine geeks. The anime cons were limited affairs, not the massive events they are now. And a person in cosplay was weird even to us.

Anime producers, just like every other bloody producer of digital data, needs to massively re invent it's business model, or kiss their income good bye.
The retail scene has to be in a state of change though.
You can't upload what you can't find to buy and upload. And in the last year, I have noticed a considerable decline of dvd copies on usenet.

But there hasn't been even the slightest slow down of fan subs.
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Apr 28, 2009 7:57 AM
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I filled out your survey. Had fun and gave you honest answers.

I think ALL fan bases regardless of piracy all produce good and bad people no matter what generation. This also holds true amongst Star Wars fans, Trekkies, Battlestar Galactica lovers, American Idol worshippers, pro wrestling fanatics, and in the political arena. I never thought of the anime fandom as perfect for the 15 years I've been a part of it. I'm thankful there are more fans today then there are in 1999 when it was really booming. I just feel without Toonami, certain kinds of anime exposure are now gone that produced the fans back then, but downloading anime on mirc was just taking off amongst fanatics who wanted to see Macross 7, Z Gundam, Tekkaman Blade, Dragon Ball Z in Japanese and other great classics which we couldn't get at the time.
Apr 28, 2009 3:07 PM
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Thanks everyone!

I hope it will be okay for me to quote some of you guys in my paper.
Also, I will post the paper online once I finished it.

Love the discussions!
Apr 28, 2009 3:40 PM

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I think the online distribution has been a doubled edge sword:

On the positive spin of it, it likely has made many more fans that simple Television distribution. It's given obscure anime the light of day and a good shot at becoming licensed.


But it's created a culture of instant gratification and cheepskates. Yet everyone places the blame squarely on the industry, and not on themselves. I do download but I also buy just about every anime I see. I've made it a vow to buy any anime I download or stream from YouTube even if I drop it, I will buy at least one DVD of that series.
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Apr 28, 2009 4:43 PM

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the anime scene has changed. its gone from where my friends and i used to buy whole shows or arcs at a time cheap. and yes they were subs, just an ass backwards way of getting them before the mass distribution on the internet. its given many shows that may have not had a chance a shot at becoming something so much more. but at the same time, anime fans have become more demanding.

in all people don't like crap, and fan subs exist for that reason
Apr 28, 2009 4:44 PM

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Some brilliant older series like LotGH never made it outside of Japan, so downloading and fansubbing is really the only choice for those.

Besides, free access makes it easier to dig out the gems from the huge piles of shit, so you know what to buy and what too shun.
Apr 29, 2009 12:57 PM
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!!===Please help with the survey before reading on cause I don't want to influence the results ===

Thanks everyone for your input!


My paper will be focused on how online downloads affects the interactions between anime fans. A big part of it is on clubs because of my own experience.

I joined an anime club in college (2004), and have noticed since then an increased interest in anime, partly due to the popularity and accessibility of series such as naruto, bleach and one piece. However, there is also a decline in the number of members who came to club solely to watch and discuss anime because it can now be done online. Most of our members are joining the club to meet friends (which I agree is a big function of the club), but people with more diverse interests have stopped coming because they can enjoy anime in their own room and hang out with friends outside of anime club.

I have know many people who have stopped attending anime club, because they can now download anime at home. In the days when fan subbed VHS tapes limited the availability of anime, I personally felt that it also created a closer group of people who got together to share resources and thoughts.

As I attend more and more anime conventions, it is difficult not to notice that the number of attendants have increased dramatically since anime was available online. So I am also interested in looking at whether the availability of anime has also helped bring people together.

It will be great if everyone can provide their experiences, and how online downloads have changed their consumption of anime and anime fans interacted~
Apr 29, 2009 1:15 PM
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I guess as far as more people downloading as apposed to buying anime DVDs and the like...yes!
Apr 29, 2009 1:29 PM

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Most people that go into the anime club at my school don't even watch the anime unless I put something 'interesting' on like Samurai X or Hetalia Axis Powers.

Frankly, I'm the only person with anime so I always have to bring titles in, so eventually I'll have to recycle some...

Yes, watching anime has gotten much easier now. With a click on youtube or a simple torrent, you can have hundreds of series at your disposal and with ease. Thanks to the Internet, I was able to watch the first 80 episodes of Naruto in two months, which if I was stuck with TV or DVDs releases would've taken much longer. Anime's all about speed and quantity these days. Fansubs and even some official subs are being released hours after Japan broadcasts them - a feat unheard of (and seemly impossible) just 10 years ago.

It's evolving, and some older fans will have to deal with it. Though not as underground as it was in the 90s, anime still has some underground appeal that pulls people in. Though I feel in another 10 years (and with Hollywood busting out anime turned live-action movies all over the place) anime will start to become bigger and mainstream.
Apr 29, 2009 2:05 PM

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Did your survey. Kinda told me how much b/w I've wasted the past two years.

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