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Apr 21, 2014 5:59 PM
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Well... here's what I mean. We have a lot of people on the earth. The earth only has so much water, and other resources. We're so wasteful and not many people focus on worldly issues, and more on their personal life.

Do you believe we are slowly, but effectively killing ourselves? Will we ever solve issues like overpopulation and others?
Apr 21, 2014 6:00 PM
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no way son, new things will be invented to solve these problems
Apr 21, 2014 6:02 PM
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I'd swear this is exactly like lupadim's stupid meat thread that caused me to get myself banned...

Does that mean that OP is lupadim?
Apr 21, 2014 6:02 PM
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No.
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Apr 21, 2014 6:03 PM
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Ntad said:
I'd swear this is exactly like lupadim's stupid meat thread that caused me to get myself banned...

Not sure what meat thread we're talking about...
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Apr 21, 2014 6:03 PM
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If we can perfect de salination we will have enough water to give us breathing room to invent a way to cleanse urine on an international scale.

The reason people focus on their personal life is because, unless they have a phD in a related field there isn't really a whole lot they can realistically achieve beyond using less power and driving a hybrid car and the like.

I know a guy who runs his house entirely of hydro power, so I personally am not screwed as I can kick back at his house.
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Apr 21, 2014 6:05 PM
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BarryManilow said:
If we can perfect de salination we will have enough water to give us breathing room to invent a way to cleanse urine on an international scale.

The reason people focus on their personal life is because, unless they have a phD in a related field there isn't really a whole lot they can realistically achieve beyond using less power and driving a hybrid car and the like.

I know a guy who runs his house entirely of hydro power, so I personally am not screwed as I can kick back at his house.

But will we ever (referring to first part?
We've been connected to other nations that ever before. Contacting other political powers or other powers is more simply than ever. And yet it seems like issues arise left and right.
Apr 21, 2014 6:07 PM
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The problem isn't resource use. Its largely poor management. Be it politically, industrially, or a lot of other factors. While Democracy has given people more and more freedom, saddly they often are morons that vote for who has the nicest teeth, then that guy has no clue what he's doing, and hires his even more clueless brother to work with him.

Next thing you know you wake up and water is being used to pump out oil.
Apr 21, 2014 6:07 PM
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watch this its about the science of overpopulation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD-yN2G5BY0

and yes we are screwed, but once humanity is extinct then earth will just evolve a new intelligent lifeform that will be extinct again due to overpopulation and the cycle continues
Apr 21, 2014 6:12 PM
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I am more worried about a meteor and its affects
Apr 21, 2014 6:14 PM

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Thomas Robert Malthus called it. So long ago too.

The man is a prophet.
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Apr 21, 2014 6:22 PM
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ParaParaJMo said:
I am more worried about a meteor and its affects


and Super Volcanoes
Apr 21, 2014 6:32 PM

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j0x said:
ParaParaJMo said:
I am more worried about a meteor and its affects


and Super Volcanoes
and Solar Flares
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Apr 21, 2014 6:35 PM

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Not in our generation
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Apr 21, 2014 6:36 PM

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We're not exactly screwed- there is a significant chance that the internet will stop being a thing before you stop being.

...but the internet isn't much older than you anyway, so the world will definitely keep functioning, without issue.

There might be a few people who get ballsy and try to start a revolt, for no apparent reason other than teen angst, but they will find out real quickly how the world actually operates if they do...
Apr 21, 2014 6:36 PM

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It will be a concern after 2100, no need to panic.


Apr 21, 2014 6:37 PM

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With this generation, they'll find a way to prevent if from happening.
Apr 21, 2014 6:38 PM

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Nah. Human ingenuity will find a way like it always does.
Apr 21, 2014 6:42 PM

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Hoppy said:
It will be a concern after 2100, no need to panic.

Who needs the next generation of people?
Apr 21, 2014 6:42 PM

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Depressant said:
We have a lot of people on the earth.


Actually, no.

Everyone in the world could stand shoulder to shoulder in a crowd no larger than L.A.

And if you had everyone on earth living in the same city, under normal conditions, that city would fit within the borders of Texas.

We use enough farmland for ethanol to feed every starving orphan in Africa, easily. Why don't we? Why don't they mine and sell the trillions of dollars worth of diamonds they have, and use that money to buy food, instead of fund civil wars? Cause people are stupid.
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Zetrin said:
Hoppy said:
It will be a concern after 2100, no need to panic.

Who needs the next generation of people?
Going by what I think of previous generations they're just going to judge our choices and fashion sense.

So fuck them.
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Apr 21, 2014 6:47 PM

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sargos7 said:
Depressant said:
We have a lot of people on the earth.


We use enough farmland for ethanol to feed every starving orphan in Africa, easily. Why don't we? Why don't they mine and sell the trillions of dollars worth of diamonds they have? Cause people are stupid.

Feeding people in Africa would cost quite a lot of money?
They already mine the diamonds, not exactly working out, though
Apr 21, 2014 6:51 PM

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Hoppy said:
It will be a concern after 2100, no need to panic.
Fuck them, those little ingrate bastards keeping ruining society.
Apr 21, 2014 6:59 PM

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Depressant said:
Well... here's what I mean. We have a lot of people on the earth. The earth only has so much water, and other resources. We're so wasteful and not many people focus on worldly issues, and more on their personal life.

Do you believe we are slowly, but effectively killing ourselves? Will we ever solve issues like overpopulation and others?
Overpopulation is not a problem. Mismanagement of our resources and technology is a problem.

Gas as 10% ethanol? Stupidity. Gums up your car and makes it wear a whole lot sooner, and takes corn out of the global food supply. Mismanagement.

Since we're on the topic of corn... let's talk corn. American "corn" = maize; in general the word "corn" means "the principal grain of a country or region." In grains alone in the year 2000, there was enough food to feed the world population twice over. That's not counting meat, dairy, legumes, fruits, or other vegetables. So the fact that 10% of the world's population (then) was going hungry was clearly not a problem with the food supply, but with management of that food supply: or mismanagement.

Government subsidies that make certain food crops economically viable. Yes, this is your government paying farmers to plant stuff that otherwise would not be financially viable (soybeans) and then instead of planting other (less lucrative) crops there ensues a huge surplus of said subsidized crops, which, due to glutted markets, often just rot away in storehouses, unable to be sold. Mismanagement.

Bleaching grains for use in highly processed foods, reducing its nutritional value because such foods and sweets are more desirable than nutritious ones. Mismanagement.

GMO foods that corrupt natural food stocks. Not an issue now since they are commercially successful and still relatively edible. What if pests become resistant to pesticides used on such crops? What if mutated or corrupted strains overtake usable ones?

Depleted soil due to overfarming of agricultural lands, resulting in topsoil erosion and less arable landspace. Mismanagement.

It's all about mismanagement. And you could argue that mismanagement is the result of human greed.

We're not going to completely obliterate ourselves, but we may make a world that cannot sustain as many human beings as before
Apr 21, 2014 7:17 PM

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I seem to recall someone in the 1800's coming up with a similar theory about humans reaching a tipping point and the population dropping off sharply by the end of that century. It didn't happen though because exponential technological growth was not factored in to our population growth. Technological advancement has not only continued to grow exponentially in the last 10 years, it has actually started to grow even faster and has outpaced the predictions of scientists near the turn of the century.

There is also the fact that there is a correlation between developed nations and lower birth rates as the countries with the highest birth rates are the ones that are usually the poorest. Makes since if you factor in the fact that even if you have a great year and your economy grows by 7% it means nothing if your population grows by 9% in that year as you are still 2% in the hole overall and are still worse off. Eventually, barring any major nuclear wars or other disasters developing countries will start to have a drop off in population growth but if anything technological growth is looking to continue to keep growing exponentially, especially with quantum computing becoming more and more feasible in the coming years. This will lead in my opinion to a tipping point where the population is no longer keeping pace with technological growth and we will be getting better and better over time. The only real question is whether we can keep our current global society together long enough to reach this tipping point.
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I seem to recall someone in the 1800's coming up with a similar theory about humans reaching a tipping point and the population dropping off sharply by the end of that century. It didn't happen though because exponential technological growth was not factored in to our population growth.
Yes, Malthus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus
Apr 21, 2014 7:21 PM

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yes Malthus was his name. Thank you Jackrabb1t
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Jackrabb1t said:
SGW said:
I seem to recall someone in the 1800's coming up with a similar theory about humans reaching a tipping point and the population dropping off sharply by the end of that century. It didn't happen though because exponential technological growth was not factored in to our population growth.
Yes, Malthus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus
SGW said:
yes Malthus was his name. Thank you Jackrabb1t


Fuck you guys. I mentioned him first.
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Apr 21, 2014 9:13 PM

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i'm not worried because by the time the earth is fucked up we will all probably be dead by then
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Apr 21, 2014 9:26 PM

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DerpHole said:
Jackrabb1t said:
SGW said:
I seem to recall someone in the 1800's coming up with a similar theory about humans reaching a tipping point and the population dropping off sharply by the end of that century. It didn't happen though because exponential technological growth was not factored in to our population growth.
Yes, Malthus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus
SGW said:
yes Malthus was his name. Thank you Jackrabb1t


Fuck you guys. I mentioned him first.
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Apr 21, 2014 9:34 PM
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no way son, new things will be invented to solve these problems

What if they're invented too late?
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DerpHole said:
Jackrabb1t said:
SGW said:
I seem to recall someone in the 1800's coming up with a similar theory about humans reaching a tipping point and the population dropping off sharply by the end of that century. It didn't happen though because exponential technological growth was not factored in to our population growth.
Yes, Malthus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus
SGW said:
yes Malthus was his name. Thank you Jackrabb1t


Fuck you guys. I mentioned him first.
Oh yeah well I have his autograph. He signed a copy of his book for me at one of those meet the author things.
Apr 22, 2014 1:20 AM

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I will be dead by the time this becomes a huge problem. No worries here.
Apr 22, 2014 1:25 AM

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Dont worry, Aliens will save us.
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Apr 22, 2014 2:52 AM

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No, the earth was just asking to be drilled from numerous holes until it's precious resources were depleted, and then deforested. I mean...just look at what it was wearing.
Apr 22, 2014 2:55 AM

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Eat people.
The most important things in life is the people that you care about
Apr 22, 2014 4:54 AM
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to answer the question above, yes. everyone in this world is relying on someone else to fix the mess that they are doing.... only way to stop our problems would be to stop having children completely and become vegan cave men whilst planting a fuck load of trees. :L
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Eat people.
*Pulls out pencil and paper* Check.
Apr 22, 2014 10:29 AM
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Feeling bad for the future generations having to deal with our crap.
Apr 22, 2014 11:44 AM
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j0x said:
ParaParaJMo said:
I am more worried about a meteor and its affects


and Super Volcanoes


Yellowstone SV is over due an eruption
Apr 22, 2014 9:52 PM

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Aaron Static best explains it here in the first part of the song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3nKl8z98IM
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Apr 22, 2014 9:58 PM

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I highly doubt it.
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watch this its about the science of overpopulation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD-yN2G5BY0

and yes we are screwed, but once humanity is extinct then earth will just evolve a new intelligent lifeform that will be extinct again due to overpopulation and the cycle continues
that was a great video.
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j0x said:
watch this its about the science of overpopulation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD-yN2G5BY0

and yes we are screwed, but once humanity is extinct then earth will just evolve a new intelligent lifeform that will be extinct again due to overpopulation and the cycle continues
that was a great video.


That was a stupid and politicalized video.

iiSamurai said:
j0x said:
ParaParaJMo said:
I am more worried about a meteor and its affects


and Super Volcanoes


Yellowstone SV is over due an eruption


Rather funny how many dooms day type things are just waiting. The Canary Islands are another that would screw over parts of Europe and the US East coast.

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