Spice and Wolf (light novel)
| totally just throwing a speculation out but here is my idea on season 3: look for an announcement late this year or early next year. --------------- Reasoning --------------- sources: http://www.yenpress.com/spice-and-wolf-novel/#V1 -------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spice_and_Wolf_episodes you will see that season 1 is composed of volume 1 & 2 season 2 is volume 3 & 5 but now their already up to volume 8 (9&10 to come out later this year) look at the dates between when the anime came out and when the novels came out. volume 1 came out December 2009, while season 1 came out January - march 2008. how often do you see an anime that comes out BEFORE the novel? and it was out almost 2 years before the novel! now on to season 2: it was released july - september 2009. but the novels for the story came out December 2010 - 2011. another 2 whole years before! they did it again, novel 2 years after the anime. the whole reason the first series of FMA sucked was because it cought up to to the manga and she didn't want the anime to spoil the books. while spice and wolf, passed the novels story line by 2 years every time! now that the novel has caught up and passed the anime (volume 6 -7 - 8 - 9 - 10) they can now go ahead with what i think will be season 3 (volume 6 & 8) and season 4 (volume 9 - 10). because everyone who watched spice and wolf got so hooked, the novel sales exploded because the anime ends in the middle of the adventure. and I wouldn't be surprised if there were a couple OVA/special episodes covering volume 7 (because volume 7 is: "a series of short vignettes focusing on the fans’ favorite characters") but that just me hoping my favorite anime will double in size and make my life complete ^.^ |
Commander_XJul 24, 2013 11:03 AM
Commander_X said: but that just me hoping my favorite anime will double in size and make my life complete ^.^ I completely share that hope since Spice and Wolf is also one of my favorites. Allow me to point out though that your reasoning is based on a wrong source. Take a look at This and notice the japanese release dates. I dont think we're going to get season 3 anytime soon (if ever). but, as everyone else, I will continue hoping ^^ |
algnoroAug 5, 2013 5:55 PM
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algnoro said: i try to stay out of wikipedia, but even though now they go from anime 2 years before to 1 year after... but then of course it could be there waiting to see the foreign response to the newer novels, because anime in japan is not nearly as popular overseas. and if you don't believe me just check it for yourself. but of course better anime has been canceled and worse have continued.Commander_X said: but that just me hoping my favorite anime will double in size and make my life complete ^.^ I completely share that hope since Spice and Wolf is also one of my favorites. Allow me to point out though that your reasoning is based on a wrong source. Take a look at This and notice the japanese release dates. I dont think we're going to get season 3 anytime soon (if ever). but, as everyone else, I will continue hoping ^^ |
| I too hope for a season 3-- can someone tell me what volume to read after watching season 2 (I did buy volume 6 and 7 because I heard this was the sequel to season 2 but it turned out volume 6 was season 1's ending?? Im very confused) |
xXChristiaN22Xx said: I too hope for a season 3-- can someone tell me what volume to read after watching season 2 (I did buy volume 6 and 7 because I heard this was the sequel to season 2 but it turned out volume 6 was season 1's ending?? Im very confused) Volume 5 is season two's ending. If you want the direct continuation, then you were correct in buying those volumes. Start with Volume 6 (though I personally started with volume 1, regardless of having watched the anime). |
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-Shuda- said: xXChristiaN22Xx said: I too hope for a season 3-- can someone tell me what volume to read after watching season 2 (I did buy volume 6 and 7 because I heard this was the sequel to season 2 but it turned out volume 6 was season 1's ending?? Im very confused) Volume 5 is season two's ending. If you want the direct continuation, then you were correct in buying those volumes. Start with Volume 6 (though I personally started with volume 1, regardless of having watched the anime). Actually the volume six I was talking about was the graphic novel/manga, and I assume your talking about volume 6 of the light novel, well I was hoping someone could tell me which volume does season 2 end on. (on the grpahic novel) Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=407331&show=100#Xmw8ppSkuYqBXlhZ.99 |
Commander_X said: algnoro said: Commander_X said: but that just me hoping my favorite anime will double in size and make my life complete ^.^ I completely share that hope since Spice and Wolf is also one of my favorites. Allow me to point out though that your reasoning is based on a wrong source. Take a look at This and notice the japanese release dates. I dont think we're going to get season 3 anytime soon (if ever). but, as everyone else, I will continue hoping ^^ i try to stay out of wikipedia, but even though now they go from anime 2 years before to 1 year after... but then of course it could be there waiting to see the foreign response to the newer novels, because anime in japan is not nearly as popular overseas. and if you don't believe me just check it for yourself. but of course better anime has been canceled and worse have continued. I get what you mean and I agree with you^^ What I was trying to make clear is that the anime was not ended because it caught up with the novels; because the anime never did catch up. It must have been because of other reasons... As you say; popularity probably is the reason. Anime is a business so as a company you would want to fit inside the mainstream market. I am sure, though, that (this) anime production is NOT intended solely for export. so if the series was discontinued because of (bad) popularity in Japan. Then a potential third season would have to be for export only and then foreign response matters (That response would have to be a big though!). Of course the series could have ended because of a different reason. Guess I'l just continue hoping... |
algnoroAug 31, 2013 5:01 PM
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Commander_X said: totally just throwing a speculation out but here is my idea on season 3: look for an announcement late this year or early next year. --------------- Reasoning --------------- sources: http://www.yenpress.com/spice-and-wolf-novel/#V1 -------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spice_and_Wolf_episodes you will see that season 1 is composed of volume 1 & 2 season 2 is volume 3 & 5 but now their already up to volume 8 (9&10 to come out later this year) look at the dates between when the anime came out and when the novels came out. volume 1 came out December 2009, while season 1 came out January - march 2008. how often do you see an anime that comes out BEFORE the novel? and it was out almost 2 years before the novel! now on to season 2: it was released july - september 2009. but the novels for the story came out December 2010 - 2011. another 2 whole years before! they did it again, novel 2 years after the anime. the whole reason the first series of FMA sucked was because it cought up to to the manga and she didn't want the anime to spoil the books. while spice and wolf, passed the novels story line by 2 years every time! now that the novel has caught up and passed the anime (volume 6 -7 - 8 - 9 - 10) they can now go ahead with what i think will be season 3 (volume 6 & 8) and season 4 (volume 9 - 10). because everyone who watched spice and wolf got so hooked, the novel sales exploded because the anime ends in the middle of the adventure. But wait you are looking at the american release dates that have nothing to do with the release of the anime in Japan.... Translating the novels has nothing to do with when the anime is made, the first volume of SaW came out in 2006 in JAP, volume 5 was released in 2007. Right now the series has ended 2 years ago (JAP novels) and still nothing happened. I'm not saying that we will never get season 3, but I'm saddened by the fact that they seem to put more interest in lazy comedy harems right now, just because boobs make more profit.... Horo is more sexy than some big chunks of meat :< |
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iamdarrenearl said: After watching SaW 2, where should i start at it's light novel? This has been answered many times in this topic alone, and even by myself on this same page personally. However, since this is Spice and Wolf we're talking about, I'll smile and point you towards Light Novel Volume 6. |
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| After watching both seasons I really wish for a season 3 in the future, but if its not happening, maybe Ill pick up the novels. But I have a question(s). Do you get the same conversations between Kraft and Holo? Does both of them have a strong personality or is the anime better if you wont spoil the characters you know? Thanks! |
BashZeStampeedo said: iamdarrenearl said: After watching SaW 2, where should i start at it's light novel? Volume 6 is what happens after season 2's end, but the anime doesn't cover volume 4. blumenz said: Does both of them have a strong personality or is the anime better if you wont spoil the characters you know? Yes. The novels are written from Lawrence's perspective so you get his thought processes and biases. The two of them still share the same kind of reparte in the novels as they did in the anime. Cool. Do you recommend the novels or should I continue hoping for a continuation of the anime? |
| @blumenz I'd recommend reading one of them first and see if it fits your taste. If yes, then buy em all! As mentioned, it is 90% Lawrence's perspective. Personally, I love it just as much as the anime, and a bonus is that I like Lawrence and Holo almost equally; individually or together, even outside of the series. Of course, no Anime and Light Novel can ever have the exact same "presentation", there will always be those minor things. But in the end, Spice and Wolf is of course... Spice and Wolf, and it does a good job at being just that. :) |
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| Thanks -Shuda- If Im buying, would it be best to start from the beginning, the part missing from the Anime or where it left off? :) |
blumenz said: Thanks -Shuda- If Im buying, would it be best to start from the beginning, the part missing from the Anime or where it left off? :) I personally started from volume 1, but I would see nothing wrong with starting from Volume 6 (Continuation from season 2). Volume 4 was also a side-story that wasn't included in the anime, so it might be worth checking out for you too. |
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Saint_ said: I'm not saying that we will never get season 3, but I'm saddened by the fact that they seem to put more interest in lazy comedy harems right now, just because boobs make more profit.... Horo is more sexy than some big chunks of meat :< i have never read something so true before, i auctually finished all the anime i relly wanted to watch and was left with thoes exact anime. highschool dxd, Haganai, aria the scarlet, etc.. and yea there good, but the character development and plot is all focused around fan service (im not saying thats bad, but it gets old and over used FAST) and it just reminds me of the fact that i dont ever think a girl has liked me :'( fuck, here comes the depression again, oh curse you cruel world *HOLO* not horo, look it up you uneducated chunk of meat :P |
BashZeStampeedo said: I'd say read volume 4, and if you like it, continue with 6 on. The books slow down a bit here and there where the anime ended, so don't expect them all to be as good as the material you've seen in the anime. If you're willing to read some slower stuff, then you shouldn't be disappointed. The official translation needs to get through another 2 or 3 novels before the really good stuff starts up again, but that's not to say that the parts it's going through now suck - they're just not necessarily as great as the parts that were animated. Im not a reader normally, but when I get a good plot I can read for days. Guess ill try if my urge for Holo gets too much to handle :) |
| You'll be reading a lot more Lawrence, and world-building, as opposed to how Holo is "glorified in the anime" at times. Though I'm assuming that isn't literally the sole reason lol. I'm not saying that she's not the same wise-wolf; she's definitely the same :) (as is their relationship focus), but there's a lot more emphasis and details spent on many things. |
Kayaba-Sep 17, 2014 10:03 AM
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| Of course. If think its the intellectual relationship that interest me the most, not the Holo character. Its sound like I would be able to enjoy the novels. It all comes down to I would much rather prefer a continuatuon of the Anime and I would be saddend to have spoiled the plot be reading the novel. |
BashZeStampeedo said: iamdarrenearl said: After watching SaW 2, where should i start at it's light novel? Volume 6 is what happens after season 2's end, but the anime doesn't cover volume 4. blumenz said: Does both of them have a strong personality or is the anime better if you wont spoil the characters you know? Yes. The novels are written from Lawrence's perspective so you get his thought processes and biases. The two of them still share the same kind of reparte in the novels as they did in the anime. So i should start buying volume 4 and wait for the volume 6 here to be released in the bookstore.. thanks! |
Commander_X said: *HOLO* not horo, look it up you uneducated chunk of meat :P Yeah I'm from the "first SaW season generation", back then when the first episodes were being released, every group translated the name to "Horo", later people started questioning if it shouldn't be "Holo". Everything was clear when she wrote down her name as "Holo" but some insisted her real name is Korbo xD When you look at that scene it kinda looks that way lol. http://www.rabbitpoets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/spiceandwolf43.jpg |
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Saint_ said: Everything was clear when she wrote down her name as "Holo" but some insisted her real name is Korbo xD When you look at that scene it kinda looks that way lol. http://www.rabbitpoets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/spiceandwolf43.jpg That's just too cute for me to keep a straight face... lol! Holo <3 |
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| For those who are really desperate for a fix of Spice and Wolf (like me lol) http://www.change.org/petitions/funimation-we-want-you-to-use-your-influence-to-help-create-season-3-of-spice-and-wolf just sign it, takes one minute exactly I mean how much of an effort is that lol just show them our support, thank you |
DaBase333 said: For those who are really desperate for a fix of Spice and Wolf (like me lol) http://www.change.org/petitions/funimation-we-want-you-to-use-your-influence-to-help-create-season-3-of-spice-and-wolf just sign it, takes one minute exactly I mean how much of an effort is that lol just show them our support, thank you done and done, i even used my other 8 fake names.... lol jk |
Cawickeng said: Most likely won't happen, the light novels are pretty good though. Although I kinda got bored with Volume 8-15 because that certain character was introduced and took up all the 'screentime'. Less Lawrence-Holo interactions, she becomes more cold towards him imo, mainly because she is using Cole to not get too attached to Lawrence. Once he's finally gone in Volume 15, things get good again. Although, I still don't know which chapters in the Epilogue are side stories and which ones are part of the main plot. There's 10 more volumes of the main story which the anime hasn't covered, which would mean about 5 more seasons. Very few good anime have gone on for that long. It'd be even longer than FMA. Spoiler tags please. |
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Phoenix6000 said: Spoiler tags please. is the whole topic title of "SEASON 3" not good enough? |
Commander_X said: Phoenix6000 said: Spoiler tags please. is the whole topic title of "SEASON 3" not good enough? Pheonix6000 is referring to the post by Cawickeng which includes content from volumes of the Light Novel which are long past the animated story. Technically the content would be in a season 4 or 5 if you want to put it that way (though I'm not even expecting a season 3 to be announced). I'm a reader myself (currently on Volume 10) so I would have to agree with Pheonix6000. I didn't fully read Cawickeng's post however, thankfully. |
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-Shuda- said: Pheonix6000 is referring to the post by Cawickeng which includes content from volumes of the Light Novel which are long past the animated story. Technically the content would be in a season 4 or 5 if you want to put it that way (though I'm not even expecting a season 3 to be announced). I'm a reader myself (currently on Volume 10) so I would have to agree with Pheonix6000. I didn't fully read Cawickeng's post however, thankfully. oh, i thought he was referring to the beginning of season 2. because all that does happen there. |
Novalogic said: It's fake. Anyone can write sources on their pic and claim it real. It's just a fantasy troll chart, they turn up every once in a while.I am not sure, whether it is real or not, but am sure as hell that I want it to be :D http://puu.sh/4LAw1.jpg It looks pretty decent, with sources and all. Hopefully we'll get to see 3rd season starting 25.06.2014 :) |
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IntroverTurtle said: Novalogic said: It's fake. Anyone can write sources on their pic and claim it real. It's just a fantasy troll chart, they turn up every once in a while.I am not sure, whether it is real or not, but am sure as hell that I want it to be :D http://puu.sh/4LAw1.jpg It looks pretty decent, with sources and all. Hopefully we'll get to see 3rd season starting 25.06.2014 :) yea... no one would ever make a strike witches season 3, LOL jk but still, DAMMIT! |
| Really hope there's more. I've heard no legitimate news on it but if there is a season 3, I'll jump onto seeing it. |
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Hanged_Man said: A question for those who have read the light novels: I became intrigued by season one, where there was (imho) a finer balance between sincerity and guardedness (Wolf and Distant Past is a perfect example of this for me). Season two, and I should think the light novels it's based on, pushes the dynamic more toward a mainstream Tsundere vibe. Does this trend continue as the journey goes on? Even if it does, I'm seriously considering picking these up, as Lawrence really managed to bloom as a character in season 2, becoming more vocal and charming. It really showed the transition that the lonely peddler had undergone alongside his companion, and I die for character growth in stories like this. Keep hoping, folks. You never know when someone like me may come along on a thread like this, straight off my binge and feeling lonesome from having stepped abruptly out of this fantastic tale. I've read untill the start of Town of Strife which is like Novel 8 or something? Anyway, they're excellent and you'll see alot more growth from Lawrence as a person. I don't know for sure what a tsundere is or whatever... I don't think Holo&Lawrence's delicate relationship can just put in a box/category. They're both keeping themselves from truly loving each other for reasons you've probably already discovered by watching the anime series. But for how long does that keep up? I don't know, that'd be a spoiler :]. Anyway, that's only concerning their relationship. Don't forget the economics and plots that lawrence as a merchant encounters or the other characters. Shit goes down, always. Even the Side Colors book entertained me, it's about sidestories from the characters. The first sidestory gives more insight into holo. Anyway they're excellent go get them. As for a season 3....... I really don't think it'll happen BUT I REALLY HOPE IT DOES. Anyway, just a minor way to express our support towards Spice&Wolf: http://www.change.org/petitions/funimation-we-want-you-to-use-your-influence-to-help-create-season-3-of-spice-and-wolf |
| Seems Strike Witches is getting a season 3, so maybe this is legit. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=675677 |
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| Strike Witches is getting a new Anime, they won't continue the story. For S&W i believe they are still fighting over the rights so I doubt we will see a S3 anytime soon. |
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| my favorite anime of all timeeeee I AM STILL HOPEFUL ;_; |
| And yet again I complete another fantastic anime, desperately clutch for information on another season and leave with the conclusion that this anime will never continue. As someone who doesn't particularly like reading manga or light novels, this really sucks ass. |
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Minagatachi said: And yet again I complete another fantastic anime, desperately clutch for information on another season and leave with the conclusion that this anime will never continue. As someone who doesn't particularly like reading manga or light novels, this really sucks ass. I felt the same way but the novels are actually quite good, I was surprised myself how much I enjoyed them. |
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