Is fanservice that bad?
| This is probably the 99th thread about this and maybe the thread's name has been written letter-by-letter before, but I was interested in discussing this. I've just watched the fifth episode of AKB0048 (better than Clannad! Please don't stab me) and just noticed the fanservice, I have nothing against it actually, the characters still act rationally and the plot is completely undisturbed. So, any opinions? Any example of anime greatly worsened (or improved) thanks to fanservice? No hentai examples please. |
| It depends. Fanservice is fine if you use it in moderation, but almost nobody does. It all comes down to selling it to the fans, and if you make fanservice a part of a show, you better bet that you're going to see approximately 5345 panty shots every three episodes. It's just sad how producers use it. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: It depends. Fanservice is fine if you use it in moderation, but almost nobody does. It all comes down to selling it to the fans, and if you make fanservice a part of a show, you better bet that you're going to see approximately 5345 panty shots every three episodes. It's just sad how producers use it. OK, I'll check some 00 reviews just to calm my fears :) |
| Nah, panties over here panties over there its ok, tho making a whole damn show based on just showing sexy girls is annoying as hell to watch. |
| You have to be pretty gay to not to like fan service. |
| If it's like Eiken yes, but the good news, few anime ever go that far I like fanservice and a lot of it, but the way it was done in Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou was unacceptable. |
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| Fanservice is there to please us in the first place us so if it's done right its truly nice. However, if it's used as a sales method, that's just cheap. |
| So, What do you think is on the other side? |
vynka said: Nah, panties over here panties over there its ok, tho making a whole damn show based on just showing sexy girls is annoying as hell to watch. Wrong. Making a show which is obviously fanservice-based at least lets the viewer decide beforehand if he wants to start it or not even bother, while dragging down perfectly solid series of any genre with uncalled fanservice is way more annoying in many cases. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Hoppy said: If it's like Eiken yes, but the good news, few anime ever go that far I like fanservice and a lot of it, but the way it was done in Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou was unacceptable. What did they do to those animes? |
Hoppy said: If it's like Eiken yes, but the good news, few anime ever go that far I like fanservice and a lot of it, but the way it was done in Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou was unacceptable. And in Queens Blade and Ikkitousen... I'd rather see stuff along the lines of TWGOK, Haganai, Date A Live, Hentai Ouji, etc... Rather than a mess of tits, ass, and over-the-top plot-destroying fanservice every time I take a breath of fresh air. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: Hoppy said: If it's like Eiken yes, but the good news, few anime ever go that far I like fanservice and a lot of it, but the way it was done in Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou was unacceptable. And in Queens Blade and Ikkitousen... I'd rather see stuff along the lines of TWGOK, Haganai, Date A Live, Hentai Ouji, etc... Rather than a mess of tits, ass, and over-the-top plot-destroying fanservice every time I take a breath of fresh air. Plot-destroying fanservice? Do you have examples of that? |
Miguelinileugim said: YandereTheEmo said: Hoppy said: If it's like Eiken yes, but the good news, few anime ever go that far I like fanservice and a lot of it, but the way it was done in Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou was unacceptable. And in Queens Blade and Ikkitousen... I'd rather see stuff along the lines of TWGOK, Haganai, Date A Live, Hentai Ouji, etc... Rather than a mess of tits, ass, and over-the-top plot-destroying fanservice every time I take a breath of fresh air. Plot-destroying fanservice? Do you have examples of that? Well in the ones that we mentioned. Eiken, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and Queens blade, they base the plot around the fanservice, and let everything else fall into the backdrop of it. In Eiken, the chick has a habit of resting her, over-sized, tits on the guys head. In Ikkitousen/Queens blade the whole gimmick is having clothing fly off during yuri-style fights. Manyuu Hikenchou is about girls who's worth is based on their tit-size. \ Good enough? |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: Miguelinileugim said: YandereTheEmo said: Hoppy said: If it's like Eiken yes, but the good news, few anime ever go that far I like fanservice and a lot of it, but the way it was done in Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou was unacceptable. And in Queens Blade and Ikkitousen... I'd rather see stuff along the lines of TWGOK, Haganai, Date A Live, Hentai Ouji, etc... Rather than a mess of tits, ass, and over-the-top plot-destroying fanservice every time I take a breath of fresh air. Plot-destroying fanservice? Do you have examples of that? Well in the ones that we mentioned. Eiken, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and Queens blade, they base the plot around the fanservice, and let everything else fall into the backdrop of it. In Eiken, the chick has a habit of resting her, over-sized, tits on the guys head. In Ikkitousen/Queens blade the whole gimmick is having clothing fly off during yuri-style fights. Manyuu Hikenchou is about girls who's worth is based on their tit-size. Good enough? Sorry... yuri clothing fights? Tit-size meritocracy? How is this even possible??? Ah... I forgot... Japan... More info about that? :) |
Miguelinileugim said: YandereTheEmo said: Miguelinileugim said: YandereTheEmo said: Hoppy said: If it's like Eiken yes, but the good news, few anime ever go that far I like fanservice and a lot of it, but the way it was done in Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou was unacceptable. And in Queens Blade and Ikkitousen... I'd rather see stuff along the lines of TWGOK, Haganai, Date A Live, Hentai Ouji, etc... Rather than a mess of tits, ass, and over-the-top plot-destroying fanservice every time I take a breath of fresh air. Plot-destroying fanservice? Do you have examples of that? Well in the ones that we mentioned. Eiken, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and Queens blade, they base the plot around the fanservice, and let everything else fall into the backdrop of it. In Eiken, the chick has a habit of resting her, over-sized, tits on the guys head. In Ikkitousen/Queens blade the whole gimmick is having clothing fly off during yuri-style fights. Manyuu Hikenchou is about girls who's worth is based on their tit-size. Good enough? Sorry... yuri clothing fights? Tit-size meritocracy? How is this even possible??? Ah... I forgot... Japan... More info about that? :) Ikkitousen has 5 seasons all together, and they are about school girls (the guys don't really matter at all in the series) fighting to win the "tournament" The whole point of the show is basically just how to display all of the girls they created as they have their clothing fly off during fights... It's as simple as that, and it's awful. Manyuu Hikenchou is.... Without a doubt.... Despicable... It's just a disgrace to what anime is. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
RapiDSnake said: I love Fanservice but with limits, the plot doesn't have to be about boobs every 5 minutes of the Episode. *Cough* Highschool DxD New *Cough* |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Shuhan said: You have to be pretty gay to not to like fan service. Yeah, I'm gay for not caring about 2D breasts. |
 Pikachu wants some |
YandereTheEmo said: Miguelinileugim said: YandereTheEmo said: Miguelinileugim said: YandereTheEmo said: Hoppy said: If it's like Eiken yes, but the good news, few anime ever go that far I like fanservice and a lot of it, but the way it was done in Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou was unacceptable. And in Queens Blade and Ikkitousen... I'd rather see stuff along the lines of TWGOK, Haganai, Date A Live, Hentai Ouji, etc... Rather than a mess of tits, ass, and over-the-top plot-destroying fanservice every time I take a breath of fresh air. Plot-destroying fanservice? Do you have examples of that? Well in the ones that we mentioned. Eiken, Manyuu Hikenchou, Ikkitousen, and Queens blade, they base the plot around the fanservice, and let everything else fall into the backdrop of it. In Eiken, the chick has a habit of resting her, over-sized, tits on the guys head. In Ikkitousen/Queens blade the whole gimmick is having clothing fly off during yuri-style fights. Manyuu Hikenchou is about girls who's worth is based on their tit-size. Good enough? Sorry... yuri clothing fights? Tit-size meritocracy? How is this even possible??? Ah... I forgot... Japan... More info about that? :) Ikkitousen has 5 seasons all together, and they are about school girls (the guys don't really matter at all in the series) fighting to win the "tournament" The whole point of the show is basically just how to display all of the girls they created as they have their clothing fly off during fights... It's as simple as that, and it's awful. Manyuu Hikenchou is.... Without a doubt.... Despicable... It's just a disgrace to what anime is. Interesting, could you shout a couple of hateful remarks about the last one? The idea is just too horrifically original... |
Sure. Manyuu is a show for pedophiles through and through. The fanbase is full of older-men who watch it while hugging their body-pillows to get some kind of thrill. It's a sick and twisted anime that could use some counseling, for it's such a horrible idea, that it shouldn't have ever been made. Now that's just my opinion. Many people may actually enjoy it (Balance to my "flaming" remarks) |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
| It's called fanservice for a reason. Incomprehensible to me, nonetheless. |
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Shuhan said: You have to be pretty gay to not to like fan service. Yes... Its so gay to not be turned on by drawings. F**king fags everywhere. Love your logic. Its not bad if its in there, as long as they dont overdo it. But sadly allot of series these days overdo it really bad. |
| Y Higashi_no_Kaze said: vynka said: Nah, panties over here panties over there its ok, tho making a whole damn show based on just showing sexy girls is annoying as hell to watch. Wrong. Making a show which is obviously fanservice-based at least lets the viewer decide beforehand if he wants to start it or not even bother, while dragging down perfectly solid series of any genre with uncalled fanservice is way more annoying in many cases. You are right, but not all of them are that predictable, for example harem shows. And I've got tricked a couple of times, I still remember how disappointed I was with High School of The Death, of course it was my fault for not investigate. |
YandereTheEmo said: Sure. Manyuu is a show for pedophiles through and through. The fanbase is full of older-men who watch it while hugging their body-pillows to get some kind of thrill. It's a sick and twisted anime that could use some counseling, for it's such a horrible idea, that it shouldn't have ever been made. Now that's just my opinion. Many people may actually enjoy it (Balance to my "flaming" remarks) OK, thanks :) |
RapiDSnake said: vynka said: Y Higashi_no_Kaze said: vynka said: Nah, panties over here panties over there its ok, tho making a whole damn show based on just showing sexy girls is annoying as hell to watch. Wrong. Making a show which is obviously fanservice-based at least lets the viewer decide beforehand if he wants to start it or not even bother, while dragging down perfectly solid series of any genre with uncalled fanservice is way more annoying in many cases. You are right, but not all of them are that predictable, for example harem shows. And I've got tricked a couple of times, I still remember how disappointed I was with High School of The Death, of course it was my fault for not investigate. Oh god! High school of the dead was such a good show ruined by the Every Second Boob cam. Dam'n Those Boob cam's. When people say stuff like, "Highschool of the Dead may be bad, but it's the only real option for an anime about zombies/infections" I always have to chuckle, for there is one anime, an anime that I hold above many others, that does this concept so much better. Shiki Go check it out. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
| One thing I don't get is even though fanservice is almost universally hated, why the hell do anime studios still feel the need to use it so much? And how does that shit still sell so well? |
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Nihilfist said: Sex sells, nothing you can do about it.One thing I don't get is even though fanservice is almost universally hated, why the hell do anime studios still feel the need to use it so much? And how does that shit still sell so well? |
dodoberry said: Nihilfist said: Sex sells, nothing you can do about it.One thing I don't get is even though fanservice is almost universally hated, why the hell do anime studios still feel the need to use it so much? And how does that shit still sell so well? I couldn't care less about sex, but slightly heated up jokes and some good art might actually improve it. Though fanservice is actually misleading, the real fanservice is not sexual but emotional, and that one is not even called fanservice for some reason... |
| Depends. If you're watching a show like DxD then it's expected. |
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| I dont know for sure. It has made me stop a show before because it was so bad (Dakara Boku wa, H ga Dekinai) that had some nice uniqe things. But the fanservice was so repetitive and boring (basically ripping off the clothes in the exact same way every fight) that I got bored and quit on epiosde 8 or 9. Then there are shows like To-love ru that I can enjoy despite the fanservice. Maybe its because I watched it without censors, and if I see something at least it manages to turn me on once in a while a bit. But with To-love ru I also kind of like the romance part as its a bit more unique and the Fanservice doesnt seem to get much in the way of it. But all in all I think many shows could use less fanservice. You either show more and make it worthwile (Honestly who gets even in the slightiest way turned on by pantyshots thats or a woman just walking around nakedly with heavy censors. Or you just get rid of it completely or use it in a more weird fashion. I think SHAFT uses Fanserive in some Monogatari series too but I never minded it because the show it didnt get in the way of the show. I guess I dislike shows that try to emphasize the fanservice but without going all the way the most. Like they add a moaning sound to it when a pantyshot is show. I mean honestly youre showing a pair of panties which is like 2% sexual and adding moaning sounds to it or highlight the scene otherwise... Yeah I guess To-love-ru is some sort of exception in the case I dont know why I like it despite the heavily emphasized fanservice. |
LevailRenn said: Depends. If you're watching a show like DxD then it's expected. OK. Note that your signature doesn't work. |
Miguelinileugim said: dodoberry said: Nihilfist said: Sex sells, nothing you can do about it.One thing I don't get is even though fanservice is almost universally hated, why the hell do anime studios still feel the need to use it so much? And how does that shit still sell so well? I couldn't care less about sex, but slightly heated up jokes and some good art might actually improve it. Though fanservice is actually misleading, the real fanservice is not sexual but emotional, and that one is not even called fanservice for some reason... "Fanservice" just means an idea/repeating theme that a writer/director uses to attract fans. Ex: The repeated "scaredy-cat" joke in K-On "Fanservice" is now interpreted as sexual content meant to be "eye-candy" for those watching the shows that despicably spam panty-shots every couple seconds. Since everyone came in thinking you meant sexual fanservice, leave it where it is. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: Miguelinileugim said: dodoberry said: Nihilfist said: Sex sells, nothing you can do about it.One thing I don't get is even though fanservice is almost universally hated, why the hell do anime studios still feel the need to use it so much? And how does that shit still sell so well? I couldn't care less about sex, but slightly heated up jokes and some good art might actually improve it. Though fanservice is actually misleading, the real fanservice is not sexual but emotional, and that one is not even called fanservice for some reason... "Fanservice" just means an idea/repeating theme that a writer/director uses to attract fans. Ex: The repeated "scaredy-cat" joke in K-On "Fanservice" is now interpreted as sexual content meant to be "eye-candy" for those watching the shows that despicably spam panty-shots every couple seconds. Since everyone came in thinking you meant sexual fanservice, leave it where it is. I meant sexual fanservice, but I wanted to remark that. |
Miguelinileugim said: LevailRenn said: Depends. If you're watching a show like DxD then it's expected. OK. Note that your signature doesn't work. Note that BBCode is disabled. |
an egomaniac and a fool |
| Honestly, I don't mind fanservice in any show, as long as it doesn't get too annoying. Fanservice is good, but it becomes bad when overdosed or executed poorly. |
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| Fan service isn't all that bad. Most of the time i end up enjoying it. But bad fanservice in a large dose can be pretty frustrating. |
LevailRenn said: Miguelinileugim said: LevailRenn said: Depends. If you're watching a show like DxD then it's expected. OK. Note that your signature doesn't work. Note that BBCode is disabled. OK, who's the girl/boy in your avatar? |
| Fanservice is bad? Surely that's an oxymoron, right? |
| This thread again? Yes it's bad. |
JustALEX said: Fanservice is bad? Surely that's an oxymoron, right? No it's not. It's not "bad" inherently. However, almost no anime execute it well.. It's mostly just spammed/repeated sexual innuendos/panty shots... Which is not only boring, but crude. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
| I don't really pay much attention to fan service too often... Although there are times when it does get annoying, like when they add characters for specific fethishes.... example being that useless little girl witch from R+V. I could not stand her character, and seeing her on screen extremely irritated me. Same can be said for other tropes of this nature. |
| Yes, I dropped my score of code geass because of unnecessary fanservice. |
| Just don't replace quality and substance for it and I don't mind. |
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| It's as bad as your topics. |
| I consider it bad when I'm thinking "why the hell? come on...". When it's up in your face and just feels forced, I just find it annoying. |
| If my penis is happy, then it's fine with me. |
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| Depends on the tone of the scene and show, and also it's presentation. It can be good, and it can be bad. |
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