| *Everything here contains spoilers up to episode 8. You have been warned.* Enoshima said: Seriously, like, why do I have to do this job? Like, really, didn’t we already have a posthumous character do this joke? I would, you know, prefer it more if I was the joke before her… or him, whatever. Overusing jokes are, like, totally lame. *beat* Okay, no more tomfoolery from me. We are already familiar with the topic rules, yes? As a reminder, only those experiencing Dangan Ronpa’s story for the first time through the anime adaption will get to post their theories of how the murders were played in this thread. While I will do the bothersome work of listening to you guys suggest possible clues that may be related to the case. Pictures, facts, red herrings, testimonies, you name them; I will update them in the topic post. Just remember that you have to tell me in lengthy detail on why ‘possible clue no.1’ may be important. Like, really, I’ll die of disappointment if you don’t. I have taken the liberty of putting up the first few facts of the case; you’d probably need a starting point. Oh, and I was told to give some boot-on-booty action to those who try to spoil the answers in this thread. Enjoy!  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Electronic Student Handbook: MAP OF THE SCHOOL: Today's Unlucky Victim: (Picture of corpse) Possible Evidence: (Some evidence may be irrelevant to the case.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Various goals you must achieve for this case: - Find who the culprit is. - Explain how evidence ‘X’ happened, why ‘X’ happened, and when ‘X’ happened. - Tell us the order of events of the murder. Just telling us a single piece of evidence along with your theory may not be enough to prove your case. Evidence on its own could be fabricated. If you wish, we can point out the flaws in your theories. (Picture of Kirigiri with some in-game quotes) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Totally not click baiting said: Case 01 Thread - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=630713 Case 02 Thread - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=637895 Case 03 Thread - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=645347 If you think I’ve made a mistake on anything, PRIVATE MESSAGE ME and do not post it on this thread. Credits goes to: - DenjaX for explaining the Class Trials section. - atruong18 for lighting up the maps for me. - All those who are willing to help in refuting and moderate these threads. - The forum Gods. Update: - Added Locker. |
MrOCDAug 26, 2013 11:38 PM
| Well , there are 4 suspects : 1.Monobear 2.Togami 3.Hagakure 4.Genocider Syo.. Out of all 4 only one can enter a room without using the door. That or she let them in one by one and one of them killed her but its very hard to belive that . Since Togami isnt strong at all . Hagakure it's out of discussion because of same reasons and Genocider Syo is using scissiors . |
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
| @All Yo, may I ask if you can see the pictures and colors on the text correctly? I can't for some reason, while I can on my other threads. Edit: No, that doesn't seem to be the case. I just tried to edit and preview my last thread. It's doing the same thing too. I'll even upload a image. |
MrOCDAug 23, 2013 8:00 AM
| You made a mistake in coding. Search with awareness because the more commands you use the more messed up it gets. So ,nope there are no colors there. |
FluffyFleshAug 23, 2013 8:01 AM
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
| Monobear a suspect? Is he allowed to? how would the class trial work then? that would be interesting. Images won't work cause of some hacking issues earlier to answer your question ocd |
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Objurgo said: Monobear a suspect? Is he allowed to? how would the class trial work then? that would be interesting. Images won't work cause of some hacking issues earlier to answer your question ocd Oh, not again. Thanks for the quick explanation. It's probably another gore spammer or something. I'll leave the post to how it is and retry periodically. |
| Is it possible for Monobear to become a suspect? I mean, that would destroy the purpose of his game right? According to himself I think anyways. |
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Objurgo said: Monobear a suspect? Is he allowed to? how would the class trial work then? that would be interesting. Images won't work cause of some hacking issues earlier to answer your question ocd Well , there is the possibility because they had a little fight in the gymnasium. Also there is the possibility that she broke the rule . But there are alot of scenarios , to be honest. I can imagine 3 scenarios : 1. One of those 3 killed her and she was dragged in her room. But here is the problem with this scenario , how could only one carry her , did he/she found a way to transport her ? If so how did he/she got it on that transport "device" . 2. All 3 of them killed her and somehow they found a way to block the door by tying strings to block the door . But there are no strings found. 3. Monobear killed her because she broke the rules and then placed her in her room. They had a dispute and why I suspect Monobear is because Sakura said that she will solve this without any of those 6 needing to die . And because Monobear was aware that Sakura is capable to break doors he implemented that rule . He expected her to go rage mode and thats why he came with measures to stop her from doing that but I wonder if that rule stopped her. *Note: These scenarios are based only on anime evidence. |
FluffyFleshAug 23, 2013 8:15 AM
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
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Stark700Aug 23, 2013 8:13 PM
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| UTW subs are available now. Ok, investigation time. It's kinda hard to pick one I suspect the most. Will post a theory later. |
Stark700 said: babymilo91 said: This is actually a pretty good theory now that I think about it. (since the door was sealed from the INSIDE.) However, not sure on your powder theory since Kirigiri mentioned that Sakura was hit on the head. I do think that yellow powder plays a significant role though involving poison of sorts.. At the same time, I don't think any of the three suspects that Asahina spoke out is the actual killer. True, I'm still wondering about those wounds on her head. |
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| Here's my theory, I'll probably update it after I finish downloading the UTW subs, but here is what I've gathered from other subs: It's a little bit long, but this is how I believe the case went out, correct me on anything that seems off or if I'm missing something. I really enjoy doing this though =) |
45RavagerAug 23, 2013 9:44 AM
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| First to everyone, if you are making a theory or replying to a theory, please spoiler tag! Nobody here wants to be influenced by someone else's theory. That means you, Stark700. Also, if you're planning to play this game, please stay away from the episode discussion threads as they are probably already full of spoilers. ---------- Now, babymilo91 said: mikado34 said: UTW subs are available now. Ok, investigation time. It's kinda hard to pick one I suspect the most. Will post a theory later. Oooh, you're back. I wonder if you'll notice any of those subtle hints like you normally do. [At least I couldn't find any....but you probably could...] @45Ravager 45Ravager said: 45Ravager said: |
Ashen_MikoAug 23, 2013 10:55 AM
(Also known on other places as Hiss13) All hail the adorable chess master! |
CreationBreaker said: 45Ravager said: |
MrOCDAug 23, 2013 11:07 AM
CreationBreaker said: mikado34 said: Ok, investigation time. It's kinda hard to pick one I suspect the most. Will post a theory later. Oooh, you're back. I wonder if you'll notice any of those subtle hints like you normally do. [At least I couldn't find any....but you probably could...] Yes I'm back :) I was on vacation during the last investigation so I missed out on all the fun. I wanted to post some pictures from today's episode but it seems I have the same coding problems as MrOCD. |
MrOCD said: CreationBreaker said: 45Ravager said: mikado34 said: CreationBreaker said: mikado34 said: Ok, investigation time. It's kinda hard to pick one I suspect the most. Will post a theory later. Oooh, you're back. I wonder if you'll notice any of those subtle hints like you normally do. [At least I couldn't find any....but you probably could...] Yes I'm back :) I was on vacation during the last investigation so I missed out on all the fun. I wanted to post some pictures from today's episode but it seems I have the same coding problems as MrOCD. Vacation, huh? That sounds like fun. My entire summer break has been nothing but work and studying... Lucky you [green with envy] You could always just post the pictures anyway. You still have the url so when the BBcodes start working again they will probably just be fine. We can always just copy the url into the url bar if we want to see them for now. |
| (Also known on other places as Hiss13) All hail the adorable chess master! |
CreationBreaker Vacation, huh? That sounds like fun. My entire summer break has been nothing but work and studying... Lucky you [green with envy said: Yeah it was nice, but I also had to study right after that... Ok, I'll comment on the clues we got. (Quoted from the investigation list) Sorry I kinda have more questions than answers. I need to speculate on the characters' behavior as well. |
mikado34 said: CreationBreaker said: Vacation, huh? That sounds like fun. My entire summer break has been nothing but work and studying... Lucky you [green with envy] Yeah it was nice, but I also had to study right after that... Ahh the life of a student. Fun stuff. Actually, I just realized that there is something subtle that I had forgotten about. But, I won't say anything. Not yet...upupupupupu |
| (Also known on other places as Hiss13) All hail the adorable chess master! |
| I have one question, I'll put it in spoilers so not to influence anyone. |
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45Ravager said: I have one question, I'll put it in spoilers so not to influence anyone. |
| (Also known on other places as Hiss13) All hail the adorable chess master! |
| Ah, I just replayed it and the door was locked from the inside after all :/ It was still ok for Naegi to just break the window, so it was not a violation. I still need to figure out how the crime could have happened. Need to think harder >_< |
CreationBreaker said: 45Ravager said: I have one question, I'll put it in spoilers so not to influence anyone. |
45RavagerAug 23, 2013 12:55 PM
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| Theory Time |
AnimeFan500Aug 23, 2013 2:34 PM
| Rule #7 in the electronic student handbook states that- "A Class Trial will be held a short length of time following a murder committed among the students..." Monokuma represents the role of the headmaster, so for him to be the one who killed Sakura would be against the rules, so for those of you who are going to try and base theories on Monokuma being the culprit, I think you should reconsider that. SIX things I saw in this episode that I'd like to point out and mention my thoughts on- 1) Monokuma does not give an incentive this time, but rather reveals the mole so that it would cause commotion and killing among everyone accusing her of being evil working under Monokuma but we know for a fact that she didn't sign up for this role. 2) Sakura runs out of the infirmary saying "I will resolve this issue". Possible meaning..? I believe this is key to figuring out this case. 3) Sakura was smiling in her last moments. Is it just me or did I see this when they just discovered the body? 4) Kirigi tells Togami that his inconsiderate attitude towards the emotions of others, especially Asahina who is extremely furious that her best friend is misunderstood...Kirigi mentions how "this could be his down fall". This could be a possible foreshadowing of what is actually going to happen? 5) Towards the end of the episode her behavior was REALLY suspicious...too suspicious...Asahina is the first one to discover Sakura's body, once she sees it...I can't describe it but it almost looks like she saw Sakura's corpse before or ahead of time because for lack of a better explanation she didn't looked as surprise as people normally look when their best friend is dead. 6) Two of the monokuma glass bottle things were missing, and were most likely the weapons used to hit Sakura on the head...yet she also showed signs of vomiting blood (being poisoned). |
EarlCielAug 23, 2013 5:20 PM
| My theory.... This is all I can think of. Is there something I should be aware of? |
| Yay, I found more oversights in the episode. God damn it, the anime team did NOT do their research. DenjaX said: since the anime did not include the 4 types of sealed room murder explanation by kirgiri, someone should write it here instead. i would do it if i was on a pc but yeah xDD I'm way ahead of you in those regards. I'm crazy prepared, Brohan. Only that I should have called them "useful tips" to get people's attention. :O (Picture of Kirigiri with some USEFUL TIPS) @AnimeFan500 |
MrOCDAug 23, 2013 10:46 PM
CreationBreaker said: 45Ravager said: I have one question, I'll put it in spoilers so not to influence anyone. Considering what the anime team deems to be suspicious. They made it look like an upside down magazine is suspicious on its own with no further explanation, so why not? @CreationBreaker |
Looks like someone on the first page already thought about this too. The blunt hit to the head... I'm not sure about that one though. |
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DenjaX said: since the anime did not include the 4 types of sealed room murder explanation by kirgiri, someone should write it here instead. i would do it if i was on a pc but yeah xDD Weird....I remember that there were only three types... MrOCD said: CreationBreaker said: 45Ravager said: I have one question, I'll put it in spoilers so not to influence anyone. Considering what the anime team deems to be suspicious. They made it look like an upside down magazine is suspicious on its own with no further explanation, so why not? @CreationBreaker Like I said, if he can use it to explain a theory, then by all means let him do it. Also, |
| (Also known on other places as Hiss13) All hail the adorable chess master! |
| A closed room murder is an illusion added to a murder to confuse others and make it look like the murderer never entered the room and vanished somewhere into thin air. Yet in order to solve these cases, you must look beyond the appearance of things, so with the evidence presented in front of us, there is undoubtedly a murderer. Out of all the categories Kirigi explains, I believe the one that we see in this episode is category #3. |
EarlCielAug 24, 2013 6:37 AM
AnimeFan500Aug 24, 2013 10:57 AM
AnimeFan500 said: Why place it in a category? Why not assume that Aoi offered herself as the culprit , on purpose , and Sakura stopped her by throwing her out of the room and blocking her own door to stop anyone from stopping her commiting suicide? |
FluffyFleshAug 24, 2013 11:19 AM
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
FluffyFlesh said: AnimeFan500 said: Why place it in a category? Why not assume that Aoi offered herself as the culprit , on purpose , and Sakura stopped her by throwing her out of the room and blocking her own door to stop anyone from stopping her commiting suicide? |
AnimeFan500Aug 24, 2013 1:11 PM
| why does everyone assume that sakura was poisoned? there were no evidence, not even the poison bottle container was at the crime scene. are they trying to say she licked her shoe or swallowed the bottle or something? the sealed room was different from the game. but for this thread being anime exclusive purpose, the door was locked and barricaded at the same time. |
| Another theory about the murder. |
AnimeFan500Aug 26, 2013 1:06 PM
| @mikado34 |
Aaaah ,geez , I dont really know . Maybe the only thing Asahina adores among the food? A donut? |
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
TheRealBloodyNightSky said: Aaaah ,geez , I dont really know . Maybe the only thing Asahina adores among the food? A donut? Ding Ding. We got a wiener! |
| Why are people always under the perceived notion that I grab things from thin air? I guess alot of people look at my posts and are all like "TLDR" xD I totally understand this, though, because at times my posts do get quite lengthy. I've been absent for awhile just because I needed to take a break from the forums because I'm forced to write essays for school now. Wouldn't write more than I have to even for fun..or my hands would be dead. But I couldn't help but show up now because I absolutely love mysteries so much, and Danganronpa has many interesting murder mysteries I like to solve. templarknight7 said: I don't see how you can go from "resolve this issue" to suicide. After all, there are other ways of resolving this issue of broken trust and killing herself could cause more problems for the group, which is not what she wants. That said, I do think this was suicide since there was not enough evidence left behind to make this a locked-room from the outside as well as the evidence of poison being consumed. However, you need to read/watch more locked-room mysteries if you think this could not be setup from the outside without breaking the window. Yes, I know sucide is not the only think Sakura could've suggested or meant, but in a previous post that is what I concluded. My post- |
EarlCielAug 24, 2013 2:49 PM
DenjaX said: why does everyone assume that sakura was poisoned? there were no evidence, not even the poison bottle container was at the crime scene. are they trying to say she licked her shoe or swallowed the bottle or something? the sealed room was different from the game. but for this thread being anime exclusive purpose, the door was locked and barricaded at the same time. I'm sorry if you dont get what I'm about to say . Are you a police department detective or are you a skilled private detective who assumes the worst and tries every scenario. I mean even Danganronpa should have taught you that . Everyone , from the beginning of the anime , in the Class Trial tries every scenario/theory they come up to , they dont get it all right and they try to figure where they have mistaken and fix that up and patch them untill it makes 100% sense . @MrOCD : Using "TheRealBloodyNightsky" makes my mind play "Eminem - Who's the Real Slim Shady" and now I cant stop it , damn you , a thousand curses has been placed on you! Not even Hanato Kobato can help you! *Deathly Stare..* |
FluffyFleshAug 24, 2013 3:04 PM
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
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