CASE 02 - Evidence List -Anime Only- SPOILERS

Jul 26, 2013 3:25 PM

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*Everything here contains spoilers up to episode 4. You have been warned.*

Fujisaki said:
(Sigh) Kirigiri's pretty amazing. She's a girl, but she's smart... she's tough... and she's cool... and yet... (Sigh)
Sorry- I mean, hello everyone. Monobear found out about us doing these topic threads, and he said that each of the most popular characters on MyAnimeList will get to make a appearance. It was supposed to be Celes’ turn, but… Celes told me I should do this in order to build up confidence… but I think she just… didn’t want to do it.

Are we… familiar with the rules, everyone? Pictures, facts, red herrings, and testimonies will be displayed here so that people who are unfamiliar with the game can have a chance to solve the mystery of murders happening in the school and find who the culprit is.
(But this… this isn't a game... Our lives... are at stake...)

Umm… under new rules enforced by Monobear (subject to change), people must now contribute by adding evidence that they think is important to the case, while I will moderate and decide whether it is important enough to be added to the list… You may debate amongst yourselves and to me on why evidence ‘X’ may be important…

And... for those who have played the game… please don’t reveal the answers and deductions of this case. Kirigiri went moody for the entire week and didn’t speak to us…

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Electronic Student Handbook:

MAP OF THE SCHOOL:

Today's Unlucky Victim: (Picture of corpse)

Possible Evidence: (Some evidence may be irrelevant to the case.)

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Various goals you must achieve for this case:
- Show proof of who Genocider Syo is, if he happens to exist.
- Find who the culprit is.
- Explain how evidence ‘X’ happened, why ‘X’ happened, and when ‘X’ happened.
- Tell us the order of events of the murder.

Just telling us a single piece of evidence along with your theory may not be enough to prove your case. Evidence on its own could be fabricated. If you wish, we can point out the flaws in your theories.

(Picture of Fujisaki with me horribly role-playing as her)

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Not click baiting said:
Case 01 Thread - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=630713

The following spoiler tag contains a video of the game's Chapter 2 Class Trial. These videos will be put here long after each episode of the anime's Class Trials have aired.

Credits goes to:
DenjaX for explaining the Class Trials section.
atruong18 for lighting up the maps for me.

Edit: New information added!
I recommend people to only watch UTW’s subs of Dangan Ronpa. Watching other subs may reveal information that was not supposed to be said in the anime. It's for your own good!

MrOCDAug 5, 2013 12:51 AM

Jul 26, 2013 4:40 PM

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MrOCD said:

Stained Carpet:
- The carpet in the men’s changing room has a brownish-black stain.

i think its the women's changing room your talking about :)

Jul 26, 2013 4:45 PM

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Anonymous_Player said:

(SOME STUFF SAID. GAWD, DON'T LOOK INTO IT)

Edit for the 50th time: Fine, I'll change it JUST FOR YOUuuuuuu. *beat*

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Jul 26, 2013 5:22 PM

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Great setup. It's "Night time" for me too, I'll come up with something later :)

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Jul 26, 2013 6:12 PM

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I have my doubts that Genocider Shou (whoever it is) is the killer in this case. The MOs are similar but there is one difference that nags at me. The victim was crucified after death (at least I think that's the order so far since I haven't really taken a good look at the evidence or thought through the case so far) but the lack of scissors just nags at me. Well, I'll try and think of something as the weekend passes....

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Jul 26, 2013 6:38 PM

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Awesome, it's good to see that this thread is up, I'll have my theory up later

Jul 26, 2013 6:45 PM

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im curious, ocd do you plan to do one of these for

Cause thats gonna be fun seeing people take guesses at that one, no one knows what the fuck is going on with that part their first time through

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 26, 2013 6:53 PM

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Short theory.

Jul 26, 2013 7:17 PM

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Short theory.

There's something i didn't understand that can change my entire theory :
-If you steal the card, can you go into the girls change room?

I know you can't lend the card to anyone.

lSpyFoxlJul 26, 2013 10:43 PM

Sorry for my english !!

Jul 26, 2013 7:31 PM

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I feel like this is an important piece of evidence, red herring or not, especially given the new no-lending-your-student-handbook rule and the location of the crime scene.

Jul 26, 2013 9:23 PM

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Good job on this one, I don't have any problems with evidences currently. Like usual I'll also keep an eye on the development of this thread.

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Jul 26, 2013 10:06 PM

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What book girl said to glasses guy outside her room about being unable to keep the promise, I'm pretty sure that's going to be something important, especially the fact that she and him were both in the library, where they found the case file for Genocider Shou.

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Jul 26, 2013 10:28 PM

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MrOCD said:

DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
im curious, ocd do you plan to do one of these for

Cause thats gonna be fun seeing people take guesses at that one, no one knows what the fuck is going on with that part their first time through

I love that part, I will most definitely be doing it. If one was to look at the discussion board I made in Gamefaqs,

Not saying any actual spoilers but fuck it spoiler tag,

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

Jul 26, 2013 11:36 PM

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saucyfag said:
I feel like this is an important piece of evidence, red herring or not, especially given the new no-lending-your-student-handbook rule and the location of the crime scene.

I have a short theory on the handbooks, spoilered just in case

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Jul 26, 2013 11:46 PM

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I'm going to try and write out my thought processes. First of all, there were a lot of red herrings that I believe were added to create confusion, or possibly lead people off course. The big one that concerns me the most the that girl with the glasses (the book girl) and Togami.

Who DON'T I suspect (red herrings I think exist)-

I'm going to put it bluntly, and I say it now because this was in my mind the whole episode--Togami is not the culprit

It's something I believe, and I'm going to be under this assumption for this entire case. The way they seemed like they were "working together" and the way many people in their group of people were angered at Togami for treating the situation like a game. Sitting in the library and reading mystery novels/murder cases for "inspiration" is like he's asking for people to go suspect him. One thing I found HIGHLY suspicious about him was how he immediately went into the girl's locker room when Monokuma announced that a "surprise" happened while everyone was sleeping. The way he looked at Chihiro's dead body was NOT a normal reaction, I mean sure he's some rich kid but Naegi was freaking out, and seeing something as horrendous as that really strikes me strange especially when he pointed out how "it looked like it was a piece of art" or somewhere along the lines how it was "carefully planned out" and executed unlike Sayaka's futile attempt at murder.

One particular reason I felt that Togami was NOT the murderer was that it would be way too obvious, the little amount of evidence we have point at him but you can't accuse someone only based on suspicious behavior. Togami is a character I both hate and admire, I love how he can brilliantly take the route of not trusting anyone, but in exchange he is probably the least trustworthy person. I do, however, believe that his intention is not to kill, I mean being a rich kid he probably is finding it amusing here to watch all the murderers go by, and for some reason he takes a particular interest in this one.

He guided Naegi and told him about the room cards, he told Naegi about Genocider Shou (or in the sub I red it was called Xenocider Show...that's so weird lol I was so confused what that meant) and it almost in a way seemed like he was giving all the evidence to Naegi. Kigiri, as we saw in the first case helped direct Naegi towards the right direction, and Naegi who we least suspect to be able to crack the mysterious and find the real culprit is someone I think that Togami has taken a particular interest in. It almost seemed like Togami gave him all of the evidence and was testing him, I'm not sure how to describe this gut feeling I was watching, but seeing Togami "smile" and just his behavior leads me to conclude that he is NOT the murderer like everyone thinks he is, and that he has a complex of perhaps controlling people. I think he has this complex because I felt like the moment book girl confessed her "love" for him to Naegi, that she would become an easy target to kill or be used, because love can make you do really ridiculous things.

The book girl strikes me as a strange character, a character that seems to act paranoid, weak at some points but is actually a really bright girl. Bright, indeed, but dark because what she said sounded really suspicious. 'I'm sorry I failed your promise...?" and I believe she also said something like "I couldn't stop Genocider Shou?" I think that's what she said in the subs I was watching and someone please correct me if I paraphrased wrongly.

What promise? Was she able to stop him? I kept thinking that the ending held no significance and was only meant to throw people off but when I thought about the possibility that Togami could have used her...it occurred to me that the two of them would have to play a large role in the murder of Chihiro. Togami is hiding something that everyone should know, and the possibility that the book girl was at the crime scene popped into my head.

I definitely do think that the two of them are suspicious are were planning something, but I don't think they are the murderers based on my current thoughts as Togami as a character, and if his intention was not to kill while playing this game, he would use someone in his stead, which he chose to be the book girl. A weak girl (or so she appears) that seems to be able to obey all his orders. The fact that Togami pointed out how Chihiro's death resembled that of "Genocider Shou's" immediately translated into my mind that the CULPRIT is Genocider Shou, and that this person we're dealing with has a dissociative identity/personality disorder. I broke it down to people who acted out of character...but there were too many and I couldn't choose one based on assumptions, so I began looking at the evidence which most likely will give a clue.

Often times to understand what the scenario is, you have to look at each piece of evidence and know the reason for it being there.
Explanations for the evidence (possibly theories and thoughts I have)-

The Posters-

Drink spill-

The Card of Dead Students-

Kirigi was shown taking out some cards from Sayaka, Junko, and Leon and when Kirigi looks at something as I've learned from the previous case, it's VERY important. Monobear explains the whole changing room rules and he does this for a reason, because someone is going to take advantage of the rules, or try to work around it in order to perhaps confuse people especially since I think that the rooms were exchanged. Monobear says that guys may ONLY enter the guy's room and girl's may ONLY enter the girl's room with their student handbook. This makes me think about how if the crime took place in the guy's changing room...how did Chihiro get in there? If Chihiro entered the guy's room, and was murdered in there and tried to relocate the crime to frame a GIRL, it only makes sense that the CULPRIT IS A MALE. Why would you try to frame your own gender and make it easier for everyone to guess?

I did come across the possibility that Chihiro was actually the one who sneaked into the guy's room using one of the dead student's card but had to consider the rule Monobear suddenly made about how you aren't allowed to lend other people your student handbook. You aren't allowed to follow someone in either, and for reasons that I'm going to try and explain later, I don't think that Chihiro was trying to kill someone as Sayaka was in the last case. Monobear's rule was very clear, he even added it into the handbook, but the way he adds rules about how you have to sleep in a room during curfew, yet it did not specify about sleeping in your own room (as we saw Sayaka and Naegi do in the last week). There seem purposely be loose holes that seem to be in every single rule makes me question if LENDING is not allowed...is stealing okay? If you lend someone something, you willingly hand it over, but the rule didn't say anything about stealing unless the subs I read were wrong. So my original thought that the culprit is a man is not shot down immediately because then the thought would be "How did the culprit get into the girl's room?". It's possible he stole one of those cards from someone who's dead. Are dead people even considered to be a part of that rule since they technically aren't around anymore? I don' think Monokuma mentioned this, but he did say something about there being a weakness in it. Maybe it's that you can freely use a card even after a person is dead?

Chihiro's "True Identity"-

Who is Chihiro? She's a weak little girl who we saw crying in the beginning after realizing the situation, and the one who cares so much about everyone staying together as friends and not killing each other. When Togami asked what she meant by "friends" she was literally brought to tears as this over confident, prideful, malicious character was attacking her. Is Chihiro really the kind, defenseless, fragile little girl we see on the screen? When we saw Maizano, she was a helpless girl as well yet she tried to kill leon. She was one of the least suspected people to kill yet she had that mental breakdown. We didn't know much about her expect for the fact that she really loves her idol group members, and that the DVD she saw literally sent her into a state of panic, and she literally melted into a mental breakdown. To understand the actions and reasons behind them, you must understand the character, and to understand Chihiro, you have to question if that girl on the screen is really who she is. It is my belief that yes, this weakness we see, this helplessness displayed is not a lie, and I don't think that Chihiro would be the kind of person with the intent to kill because even after freaking out so many times, in a way, Chihiro stays strong by moving on and sticking close with her friends, yet the inevitable even for a sweet girl like her is that every person hides a secret.. It may be embarrassing and not worth killing for, but I believe that Chihiro hides a secret that she would not kill for since she isn't that kind of person and she even said herself that she'd "tell them later", but a secret that NO ONE KNOWS. Why was Chihiro in the guy's room? Is Chihiro actually a guy and how could this be proved? I'm not going to go into anatomical details such as pointing out a flat chest or no...bulge xD but I saw several things that were pretty interesting. I'll also say that I did consider the possibility that Chihiro is also planning something by getting up during curfew and going out which I first suspected had to do with the laptop she was working on, but to be motivated by a dark secret was not something she would kill over. The words "I'll tell you later..." kept repeating through my mind and is a big clue that chihiro is innocent unlike Sayaka.

Now here are evidences I think that can lead to Chihiro's TRUE gender (which I think is male):
1) MALES may only be able to enter the boy's locker room...so then how would Chihiro end up in the guy's locker room if he had no intent to kill? The only way to get into the locker room as a girl would be to steal (as I explained above) and this would not have been done if Chihiro is innocent which I suspect
2) Chihiro owns a TOOLBOX. I don't have the screenshot, but they show in the anime him working on the laptop with tools on his desk...aren't tool boxes give to guys only...and girls get a sewing kit?
3) Chihiro was seen going to the locker room (as Celes told Naegi) with "work out clothes" IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. Why go at night?
If Chihiro was a girl like we all thought, wouldn't it be okay to go during the day? Why do it at night and Celes even mentioned how Chihiro appeared to be in a hurry. This is highly suspicious and most likely he does this so that no one else could figure out his true identity.

The next thought that came that is related to Celes's testimony was WHY he went to the guy's locker room. Why would a frail guy like him
suddenly go to the gym to "work out" when clearly he does not regularly work out to have obtained a body that can be mistakened as a female's.
Why this sudden desire to work out? If the murder took place in the guy's locker room, this must mean that the culprit was invited to work out with Chihiro, or perhaps they met up in the guy's locker room. This would also mean that the culprit is someone Chihiro is able to trust, a guy who he feels comfortable with sharing his true identity with.

Genocider Shou-

Togami shows Naegi how the crime resembles that of Genocider Shou and as I've said before (I think) and I recall Togami directly telling Naegi that the culprit is Genocider Show because of the similar setup (the crucifixion) and the dying message. What bothers me the most is how he just so happened to be reading that, and how he can be so sure that Genocider Shou is among them when he seems like one of the most cautious characters that don't make assumption like that without fully supported evidence. Sure, the similarity is definitely there, but is it possible that Togami already knows who Genocider Shou is? Does he and the book girl have something to do with Genocider Shou, because the conversation they had at the end is very suspicious ( say suspicious but I can't exactly suspect him because I think he's acting way too obvious), and his intention behind saying this, his motive is still unknown to me, but based on that good paragraph I gave about how I perceive Togami as a character, I think he is trying to help Naegi as he has taken an interest in him, and although his behavior is RIDICULOUSLY obvious and way too suspicious, I do believe that although he is not the killer, he did perhaps witness the crime scene. He probably saw it, and is amusing himself by seeing if Naegi can solve it himself, or it's even possible that perhaps by presenting this case about genocider shou to Naegi, THAT in it's self is a red herring. Maybe he's trying to trick Naegi into thinking something that's not true, and I have this feeling he's testing Naegi and by giving him all of these clues and hints it looks like he's the killer himself during this process, but a smart person like him wouldn't give himself away just like that (unless he's playing mind games, which isn't his specialty since he's the the Super Duper High school Heir or whatever..not the Gambler) which makes me think he has way too much free time and really is trying to amuse himself.

Another thing that bothers me is how the "crucifixion" didn't seem to match up with the ones shown in the files. It's possible that the extension cord was used instead of the scissors simply because there aren't scissors conveniently left behind to use and pierce into the hands, but the fact that the two pictures shown were MALES was what threw me off the most. This means one of two things to me which really helped me to solve the puzzle on how Chihiro ended up in the real crime scene I suspect to be--the boy's changing room.

1) Genocider Shou is NOT the real culprit. This is an attempt to recreate something from a serial killer and is a failed attempt because it did not live up to how it was originally done and even the culprit isn't a guy.
2) Chihiro is actually a guy.

I've considered the fact that Chihiro may have been male because someone actually mentioned how her voice actor was a guy...which was very unusual.The fact that he may be a boy can be a possibility, however how would the culprit find that out? I don't think Chihiro who would hide a secret like that for that long would just tell someone unless they trusted that person. I do believe that Chihiro is actually a guy, and I wrote my explainations under "Chihiro's true identity". I t is my belief that the recreation of the crucifixion was really flawed to have a set up done so poorly, and the extension cord really does lead to Togami who everyone is probably going to suspect the most, but again, why would someone as smart as him make that dumb move when there is most likely a witness (book girl) who can testify. Unless of course they work together, which is possible, but acting suspicious and doing all these things "out of character" really makes me think that it is not him. Way too obvious. This makes me cross out my initial thought that the culprit is Genocider Shou since Togami is a person I think can't be trusted, but would not kill or at least not kill and give away so many things if it really were him. It's possible that he even tried to recreate the scene by going into the girl's locker room and creating this set up to confuse people or maybe make it easier for people to find the culprit. His intentions are still unclear to me, but I think that this crazy thought I have is supported by the fact Togami knew where the corpse was found when Monokuma made that announcement.

"I'm sorry I couldn't stop Genocider Shou from killing" or whatever that book girl said is the part throws me off, and it's the part that is giving me the most trouble.

Genocider Shou is described in the files to have a personality disorder, and that's when I started suspecting males that seemed to act out of character at times. I also considered finding guys that are kind, look like they can be trusted but killing was out of character. I also tried to select a male character that seemed to have a past they would want to hide, which I believe, is the biggest clue to finding the culprit. Not enough evidence, but certainly the most.

Student's Darkest Secret-

We all saw Naegi's embarrassing secret, and I carefully replayed the scene to see some obvious reactions that gave me the hint that they were not the culprit. Naegi, of course, was crossed off, the swimming girl (Aoba I think ti was) definitely not because she talked about how it "wasn't that bad" and the other one I crossed of a little hesitantly was Ishimaru or whatever his name is. I'm really bad with names, especially Japanese ones. o__o Anyways, he was like "Why this one?" and when you ask that question it probably means that it was kind of a really weird one chosen that wouldn't really affect him. I know I'm making really big assumptions here, but Ishimaru is a questionable character I spent a lot of time thoroughly investigating. He is always that one guy who tries to act fairly, tries to choose the most justifiable action, and tries to maintain order. For him to kill over a "dark secret" seemed highly unlikely to me along with his reaction, so he was crossed off.

The otaku was out of question because he doesn't seem to be able to interact with other human beings very well *cough cough finding joy in being bossed by Celes* and the culprit I think needs to be someone Chihiro can trust, or at least sees as a good person. Constantly making perverted remarks doesn't exactly make you seem that reliable, especially since I think Chihiro trusted the real suspect enough to meet up during curfew for whatever reason and work out together. Fortune teller guy I think is going to have to be involved some way with his fortunes (if he ever does kill) and something I learned from Case 1 was that their "skills" or "title" is somehow incorporated into the case. Maizano was a idol with 'charms' which is how she lured Leon into her room, and Leon was an ace pitcher which was why he was able to throw the glass ball precisely. "Super Duper High School Fortune Teller" isn't exactly the name you'd think of when you think of someone with a dark past although I do agree that he does seem like a laid back kind of guy who appears trustworthy HOWEVER the one guy who seemed the most suspicious where his actions and attitude don't seem to match up with his acts of kindness is...Oowada ( I think that's his name). Super Duper High School Outlaw Biker seems like a title that has a possibility of having a pretty messed up secret or past that would be hidden even by killing someone right? Certainly more than an otaku or fortune teller. Also he has gang members which in his character description I read he cares deeply for. Is it possible that there's a secret about him that he doesn't want his fellow gang members to know that would drive him to kill someone? It is very possible since I don't the other male characters would have as many people they are worried about revealing an embarrassing secret to. I remember him defending Chihiro and then yelling at Togami, basically snapping and losing it. He argued with Ishimaru over...a man's honor I think it was? The way he speaks and the things he does don't seem to match up a lot of the time, and when I was under the suspicion that the culprit was Genocider Shou, I looked for a male character that looks easy to trust, but really isn't and hides a dark secret. I looked for a character that would most likely have a personality disorder, and I selected him. Now that I'm reconsidering if the culprit is actually Genocider Shou or a fake...I'm not as sure but he is as of now my most suspected suspect.

Anyways, I still have a week to write a more solid theory, but so far those are my thoughts I'm going to try and build on and go somewhere with.
I definitely do think this one is more tricky than the first case because the culprit is not so easily singled out based on evidence alone.

So far, what I'm seeing is a lot of red herrings and illogical things that don't seem to make sense and seem to be trying to lead me off course which is really annoying. I'm also making a lot more assumptions, and taking the liberty of even listing crazy ideas just to try and go somewhere with find a suspect, but I really do need to find more evidence to support my claims. The sequences of events is something I have to work on too...but the hardest part is definitely finding the culprit.

EarlCielJul 27, 2013 12:19 AM

Jul 27, 2013 12:50 AM

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I think it's fairly obvious that the crime occurred in the boy's changing room. Chihiro is a guy as evidenced by the fact that he has a tool kit and his voice actor is male. Furthermore, there would be no point in keeping/hiding Chihiro's handbook if he was female as keeping the handbook on Chihiro would reinforce the idea that the culprit is female.

Since Chihiro was killed in the boy's changing room, the culprit must be male; that is, if we assume the one handbook Kirigiri could not turn on does indeed belong to Kuwata.

Of the remaining males, Oowada, Ishimaru, Hagakure, and Yamada are the only real suspects. Naegi we can obviously rule out. We can also rule out Togami as it would not be beneficial at all for him to introduce Genocider Sho if he indeed was Genocider. We can also rule out Yamada as Genocider since Genocider uses scissors and Yamada obviously has scissors (I think he used them in episode 1). This does not mean Yamada is not capable of being the culprit, only that he is not Genocider. Moreover, in regards to Togami, he doesn't seem to have the necessary strength necessary to move all the heavy equipment to create the murder scene.

My last thought on this case is that the evidence provided does not sufficiently narrow down who the culprit is. What's left is finding out their alibis as well as what Fukawa's promise to Togami was. I'm of the opinion that Fukawa may have actually witnessed the murder or something else that is necessary for solving this case, as a result of the promise she made to Togami.

Jul 27, 2013 1:04 AM

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templarknight7 said:

Can you please put that in spoiler tags? I don't want other people to be influenced when coming up with their own theories.
Also, about the Chihiro thing...

Jul 27, 2013 1:54 AM

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My thoughts for case 02

The murder happened around 2am (the kids like to stay up late). We have Celes testimony about her seeing Chihiro carrying a sportsbag and since I believe Celes will follow the curfew I guess this encounter happened before 10pm. I did find it odd that we were shown sports clothing and yet the victim was found in normal clothes. Maybe Chihiro did some work out for some hours and was ready to leave the changing room, then she was killed by someone with the dumbbell.

Fujisaki Chihiro’s little secret:

Posters, carpet and IDs:

Edit for more thoughts....

Suspects:

Genocider Shou:

What happened during the night:

That’s all I can think of for now. I bet there's lots of holes to be filled and the puzzle with ElectroID’s must be very complicated. I just can’t put a finger on it other than I want Chihiro’s programmer skills to be involved in this.

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Jul 27, 2013 10:23 AM

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Jul 27, 2013 10:27 AM

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ponygon123 said:
(Wall of text)

2nd Edit: Thank you and sorry about that, ponygon123. My username should have been a clear indication that I have no tolerance for stuff like that.

MrOCDJul 27, 2013 10:39 AM

Jul 27, 2013 10:29 AM

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I dont see why i have to spoiler tag a theory :?
If someone does not want to see theories then why would you be on a forum ><

It is still ridiculous it isn't hard to not look at things especially at a wall of text but I will (probably wont remember next time but I'll try)

ponygon123Jul 27, 2013 10:36 AM

Jul 27, 2013 11:54 AM

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Did anyone noticed this?

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Jul 27, 2013 1:05 PM

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@AnimeFan500 - I use tinypic.com to upload my pictures, then copy paste the IMG Code.

Yeah I did notice those small animations. Some of them react a little more than others :P

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Jul 27, 2013 1:28 PM

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mikado34 said:
@AnimeFan500 - I use tinypic.com to upload my pictures, then copy paste the IMG Code.

Yeah I did notice those small animations. Some of them react a little more than others :P

Thank you : )

Jul 27, 2013 2:30 PM

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That dumbbell thing had me thinking it has to be one of the guys, assuming that the dumbbell is actually heavy so no other girl can physically lift it, with the exception of Oogami probably.

Jul 27, 2013 2:36 PM

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I can't wait to see how people will react to the trial next episode - it's definitely one of the more interesting ones imo.

Jul 27, 2013 6:10 PM

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babymilo91 said:
That dumbbell thing had me thinking it has to be one of the guys, assuming that the dumbbell is actually heavy so no other girl can physically lift it, with the exception of Oogami probably.

We have some masculine men (and women) in this school. *Ahem*

And that cord extender... That was defiantly from the library where Togami (Mr. Chess Player) would use it while reading some books for clues.. (So I bet there are characters are are detectives in this case by now. Naegi... Unfortunately was included.)

AnimeFan500 said:
Did anyone noticed this?

Chihiro IS the "Super High School Level Programer" (though some translations call her a "hacker")... So that might be it for the benefit of the other people. (Dude that machine gun is scary, why u do dat Monokuma?!)

Fukawa (Miss Togami Fangirl) may be the case, but I think she's to focused on fangirling on him that she would not make a act on someone that had nothing against him...

And I don't think I want to bring Sayaka's backstory again. Chihiro is to... Fragile but not in a sense of backstabbing kind of way and just wanted peace and rainbows.

Okay I'm done grinding my brain.

"Everyone go love Cyan!"

Jul 27, 2013 11:28 PM

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Jul 27, 2013 11:31 PM

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I was thinking that these people might of kill him.

Sakura the wannabe Goku she was here around the gym with the weight bar so she might have done it. the afro long hair light skinned man, or that brown girl

Jul 27, 2013 11:45 PM

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GoldenBRS said:

Mind if I probe you with some questions?

So many questions left unanswered! Wild-mass-guessing is gonna get you killed if you were one of the students there!

Jul 28, 2013 1:10 AM

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MrOCD said:

GoldenBRS said:

Mind if I probe you with some questions?

So many questions left unanswered! Wild-mass-guessing is gonna get you killed if you were one of the students there!

Wow, so many questions on there that those ones are shocking. If those questions came and I was the students, I will be fucked, but completly honest on the answers, but the killing part story and then that will be a diffrent story.
Let`s ser here.

Jul 28, 2013 1:10 AM

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Hey everyone. This is my first post here on the forums. Be gentle :P

Dammit, they had to kill one of the few characters I genuinely liked, didn't they?

I haven't read any other theories, so if there's stuff here that was already explained or shown to be wrong, I apologize.

Evidence:

Suspects:

Events of the Murder, Theory 1:

Events of Murder, Theory 2:

Jul 28, 2013 3:16 AM

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Himmelgeher said:
Hey everyone. This is my first post here on the forums. Be gentle :P
Dammit, they had to kill one of the few characters I genuinely liked, didn't they?
I haven't read any other theories, so if there's stuff here that was already explained or shown to be wrong, I apologize.

Welcome to the forums! There is nothing you should be apologising about for having an incorrect theory. That’s the whole point of the thread, to discuss and find the discrepancies of each others’ theories. If anything, it should be me who would be apologising in advance because I have the tendency to flip whenever someone doesn’t put their theories in spoiler tags, regardless if it was right or wrong.
Oh, and I promise I won’t bite. Instead, I’ll give you the cold shoulder like them anime girls when someone does something to upset them. You are free to think of it as neglect play if you are into that sort of thing.

Himmelgeher said:

Suspects:

Himmelgeher said:

Events of the Murder, Theory 1:

I’ve got nothing else to say other than great job on your deductions. It was well explained and I was barely able to find anything wrong with it.

MrOCDJul 28, 2013 3:28 AM

Jul 28, 2013 5:04 AM

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Anonymous_Player said:

(SOME STUFF SAID. GAWD, DON'T LOOK INTO IT)

Edit for the 50th time: Fine, I'll change it JUST FOR YOUuuuuuu. *beat*

sorry!! maybe you missed it so i brought it to your attention :)

Jul 28, 2013 5:57 AM

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Anonymous_Player said:
sorry!! maybe you missed it so i brought it to your attention :)

The irony is that you've made it worse than better. lol.

No, that's not the reason why I was mad, upset, angry, smacking my head with a pillow or whatever emotion I had going... frustrated was the word I was looking for! It was because you logged off for 2 days leaving a spoiler there for everyone to see when I needed you to remove it. For the record, it's not in the girls' changing room. >_>

Don't worry about it. If you want to help, private message me instead of quoting me.

MrOCDJul 28, 2013 9:07 AM

Jul 28, 2013 9:49 AM

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After reading quite a few of these theories, I'm of the opinion that a lot of the people here have spoiled themselves as to who the actual culprit is. I say this because they don't provide any evidence that completely rules out other characters or completely pins the crime on that specific person.

One other thing, there should be no reason to put theories in spoiler tags. This should be a collaborative effort between people who have not played the game to solve this mystery. As it is right now, there has been little building on other people's theories. Several people have come to the same conclusion, but there has been little discussion on whether their conclusions hold any weight.

Jul 28, 2013 9:59 AM

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templarknight7 said:

One other thing, there should be no reason to put theories in spoiler tags. This should be a collaborative effort between people who have not played the game to solve this mystery. As it is right now, there has been little building on other people's theories. Several people have come to the same conclusion, but there has been little discussion on whether their conclusions hold any weight.

I actually really don't care anymore. I don't even want to bother trying. It was my idea in the first place, and I welcome all counterarguments. Not saying I don't understand, I've been quite enlightened. It's everyone's decision, too.

Edit:
GAH! What am I saying! I'm getting all emotional. I don't want to feel like I'm on some power trip, so everyone can post without the spoiler tags. I only speak out of concerns for others, but clearly it's not needed, so no biggie. I'll remove that part of the rule now.

2nd Edit:
The idea was that they wouldn't influence each other until they think they can't go on anymore, which would be like 1 or 2 fixes of their own theories, and afterwards they could collaborate. I honestly thought everyone had that in their mindsets, I mean, everyone did that for the first case. You guys can blame me for not elaborating on that part.

Secondly, it also helps to cut down having to scroll long walls of text, especially from those who (really like to) quote them.

Let's see how it goes then. It's not my loss in any case.

MrOCDJul 28, 2013 10:30 AM

Jul 28, 2013 10:33 AM

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This post belongs to mikado34. Which deals with Chihiro.

Fujisaki Chihiro’s little secret:

Jul 28, 2013 11:03 AM

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AnimeFan500 said:
This post belongs to mikado34. Which deals with Chihiro.

Fujisaki Chihiro’s little secret:

May I clue you in on something?

Jul 28, 2013 11:40 AM

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May I clue you in on something?

Jul 28, 2013 1:18 PM

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Alright! I'll try this again--I've tried not to look at other theories first so I can see how much I can get alone.

Here's my super duper awesome theory on who the murderer is--!

NorseFTXJul 28, 2013 1:23 PM

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NorseFTX said:
Alright! I'll try this again--I've tried not to look at other theories first so I can see how much I can get alone.

Here's my super duper awesome theory on who the murderer is--!

Jul 28, 2013 4:10 PM

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AnimeFan500 said:

NorseFTX said:
Alright! I'll try this again--I've tried not to look at other theories first so I can see how much I can get alone.

Here's my super duper awesome theory on who the murderer is--!

I noticed the issue with the poster as well, though I just assumed it was due to production errors : /

The theory of Celes smearing the blood on the poster does not work for one simple reason - there is no blood available for smearing.

The time of death is 2:00am while the time of discovery is some time slightly after 7:00am. This creates a time gap of at least 5 hours during which the blood is allowed to dry.

The blood from the floor is unusable since it would've been absorbed by the carpet.

The only option is Celes re-opening the wound to get fresh blood, but that would be way too conspicuous, since anyone would easily notice the presence of fresh, wet blood on top of dry, darkened blood.

Furthermore, Celes couldn't have written the blood using her finger ring since the pointed tip would not have allowed her to write with such wide strokes.

Jul 28, 2013 4:25 PM

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Axiaz said:

AnimeFan500 said:

NorseFTX said:
Alright! I'll try this again--I've tried not to look at other theories first so I can see how much I can get alone.

Here's my super duper awesome theory on who the murderer is--!

Jul 28, 2013 6:14 PM

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After reading all of the theories, I can't help but think that some of the theory-crafters here actually know what happened(by spoiling or playing the game) and just played "new" for the sake of this thread. xDD

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Jul 28, 2013 6:49 PM

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Alright, here's my thoughts so far...

Suspects:

Why not Togami?

Chihiro's Secret

Who knows Chihiro's Secret

Why is Kuwata's handbook broken/disabled?

About Aoi

About Celes

About Fukawa

Why switch rooms?

What about Genocider Shou?

Putting it all together

Jul 28, 2013 7:33 PM

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Theory on the drafting floor. Please hold.

(Also known on other places as Hiss13)

All hail the adorable chess master!

Jul 28, 2013 8:54 PM

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NorseFTX said:
Alright! I'll try this again--I've tried not to look at other theories first so I can see how much I can get alone.

Here's my super duper awesome theory on who the murderer is--!

Another outstanding theory from you again :D But I have one question:

Kafke said:
Putting it all together

There are a lot of discrepancies with this order of events that I don't even know where to start. xDD

DenjaXJul 28, 2013 9:16 PM

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Jul 28, 2013 9:22 PM

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DenjaX said:

NorseFTX said:
Alright! I'll try this again--I've tried not to look at other theories first so I can see how much I can get alone.

Here's my super duper awesome theory on who the murderer is--!

Another outstanding theory from you again :D But I have one question:

Jul 28, 2013 9:41 PM

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MrOCD said:

Which makes me raise a question for Norse:

What do you think about the relevance of the Genocider Shou's case? I just realized you never mentioned anything about it. xDD

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