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Jun 4, 2013 3:42 PM
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I'm on episode 18 right now, and this feels just like a battle shonen to me, I mean like a HEAVY battle shonen with too many shonen scenes. The plot so far is very simple, and the whole talking silly things during fights about how the enemy is very strong or whatever, and all that stuff in YYH or Bleach or something...

so what's so special about it? Does it get better? Or do people nowadays think something is deep just because it has some homosexuality themes in it?
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Jun 4, 2013 3:49 PM
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A) Don't recall their being Homosexual themes in it

and B) The MANGA is special

Jun 4, 2013 3:50 PM
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Yes well...it's a battle seinen.

You're on ep 18, you might as well finish it. Though I think that if by ep 18 the anime hasn't peaked your interest, you'll hardly be satisfied by the ending.

But the ending itself is very much worth watching, as it encompasses pretty much everything that is Berserk.

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Jun 4, 2013 3:57 PM
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I have this suspicion this is a certain angry hermits alt account. I'm surprised he didn't use the term "man children". Maybe not though :P

I agree with slashenjoi, if you're at ep18 and don't like it then you wont. I look at your list and literally see only shounen, so I don't really understand how your complaints even make sense...
Jun 4, 2013 3:58 PM
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slashenjoi said:
But the ending itself is very much worth watching, as it encompasses pretty much everything that is Berserk.
You mean it encompasses pretty much everything that the anime is right? Though I guess to be fair, it does finally contain the horror/supernatural elements (which are kind of the main point of the series) so ... kind of ...


(ps: I don't hate when people talk poorly about a series I like (which in this case is the case) however I don't like when people assume that anime=manga ... i.e. you watched the anime, but last time I checked most people say the manga is great ... so then you are assuming that the anime=manga? Don't like ignorance like that)
Jun 4, 2013 4:02 PM
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Pirating_Ninja said:
slashenjoi said:
But the ending itself is very much worth watching, as it encompasses pretty much everything that is Berserk.
You mean it encompasses pretty much everything that the anime is right? Though I guess to be fair, it does finally contain the horror/supernatural elements (which are kind of the main point of the series) so ... kind of ...


Yeah I guess. I've only read the first 2 volumes

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Jun 4, 2013 4:06 PM
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Agreed with the top comments, besides since when does shonen show sexual content?
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Jun 5, 2013 4:37 AM
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I'm talking about the whole griffith x some commander scenes

and what chapter is the final episode? So far, the first part (preset time) was pretty good but the flash back (most of the anime) is really crappy.
Jun 5, 2013 4:43 AM
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TinkleTinkle-Hoy said:
I have this suspicion this is a certain angry hermits alt account. I'm surprised he didn't use the term "man children". Maybe not though :P

I agree with slashenjoi, if you're at ep18 and don't like it then you wont. I look at your list and literally see only shounen, so I don't really understand how your complaints even make sense...

OP doesnt look that badmouthed so no.

OnT
The first time I watched Berserk I dropped it in ep 2 or 3.
Some time later I read the manga and I became a fan.Not the biggest ever but I do like the world and chars of Berserk.

As for the anime.What I didnt like was that they tried to make it more adult like by omitting anything magic related unless if it looked badass/scary.So the idea of a late sequel is out and that the ending just sucks balls both as an adaptation AND as a stand alone.


*Takes a look at OPs list*
hm...maybe your problem is that you dont like dark settings?(tired of talking about char/world development so I will just say that)
And One piece....

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You realize the contradiction in your theory?
Besides my list doesn't have any "dark" anime to begin with. I don't even consider Berserk "dark".

It's just that the flashback was all random fights and stuff and stupid dialogue in and out of battle, and terrible voice acting, the execution of the scenes was bad as well.
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You realize the contradiction in your theory?
Besides my list doesn't have any "dark" anime to begin with. I don't even consider Berserk "dark".

It's just that the flashback was all random fights and stuff and stupid dialogue in and out of battle, and terrible voice acting, the execution of the scenes was bad as well.


Surely I am wrong.Or maybe you have no idea what dark themes are.

You only like,assuming you arent just messing with the scores(aka troll,alt account),series full of action.

Bold part:Naruto & Naruto Shippuuden:9
Are you serious?

I have no idea how HxH is but whether it has good chars and story or not is irrelevant because you apparently only want the fights.That's the only way for your list to make sense.
If you arent even paying attention to a show, you have no right to ask what is so special for any show, be it Berserk or some random hentai.
Jun 5, 2013 5:59 AM

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You are obviously a pleb with terrible taste. Stay away from me, peasant! I dont want to catch your plebness!
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Jun 5, 2013 6:05 AM
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what dark themes are.


Well I know simply blood and gore won't cut it, nor nudity/rape. Dark themes need good execution to begin with, and the IDEA of it. Any seinen can pull off 18+ content.

As for Shippuden, I am actually messing with the score. It's not really a 9 for me.
"you only like series with action", well I don't seem to like Geass, one piece or Berserk (that much)

Have you watched HxH? They have a tournament, kinda like the final chunin exam, except the MC's match is just him getting tortured, and the rest is done off-screen.

Instead of fighting the main group of villains (like Shichibukai/akatsuki, etc), they just go for the leader, use a plan to cripple his powers, and be done with it (for the moment)

It doesn't focus on fights at all, and when it does, the action is well explained and fits the story context so that it is actually... action (exciting and stuff)

I never said I dislike action, I said I don't like pointless action thrown here and there.
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And still nobody told me what chapter is the final episode


@SSjonk, in a way, Berserk IS somewhat of a random hentai :P

What's a pleb?
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HurricaneSweet said:
what dark themes are.


Well I know simply blood and gore won't cut it, nor nudity/rape. Dark themes need good execution to begin with, and the IDEA of it. Any seinen can pull off 18+ content.

As for Shippuden, I am actually messing with the score. It's not really a 9 for me.
"you only like series with action", well I don't seem to like Geass, one piece or Berserk (that much)

Have you watched HxH? They have a tournament, kinda like the final chunin exam, except the MC's match is just him getting tortured, and the rest is done off-screen.

Instead of fighting the main group of villains (like Shichibukai/akatsuki, etc), they just go for the leader, use a plan to cripple his powers, and be done with it (for the moment)

It doesn't focus on fights at all, and when it does, the action is well explained and fits the story context so that it is actually... action (exciting and stuff)

I never said I dislike action, I said I don't like pointless action thrown here and there.


Facepalm. There is not group of main villains in medieval warfare. There are mercenaries and feudal levy under the banner of different nobles and companies, fighting under the banner of a particular King. :/
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Jun 5, 2013 6:10 AM
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I'm just explaining to him how some other series doesn't really focus on action as he presumed, because he thinks that's what i want in an anime, despite having seen my list and seen that I don't like CG
Jun 5, 2013 6:12 AM

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Not only you dont know what the fuck you are watching you cant even read what others post here.

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dont lose your time man.
Jun 5, 2013 6:14 AM
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ok then leave :) other people can be useful.
Jun 5, 2013 6:16 AM

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Just read the manga it starts getting decent in volume 4 ( I think ?) where they show the background of guts etc..
Jun 5, 2013 6:17 AM

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HurricaneSweet said:
ok then leave :) other people can be useful.

If you could read between the lines from what those before said you would start the manga(I dont see the point if you couldnt understand the story of the anime) from the start.

And you seem homophobic to me.Based on post #1 and #10.
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Just read the manga it starts getting decent in volume 4 ( I think ?) where they show the background of guts etc..
It gets decent at the part that OP hated.Seems he doesnt need to start it now....


PS:You really need to pay attention to what you read and watch.Some say that it is the secret to understand what the others try to convey be it animation or some random post.
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Thanks tsudecimo :)

@SSjok Why would I start the manga, i'll just pick up where the anime left off.

I'm just saying having the trend of people thinking something is deep just because it has some homosexuality themes in it.
Jun 5, 2013 6:23 AM

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HurricaneSweet said:
Thanks tsudecimo :)

@SSjok Why would I start the manga, i'll just pick up where the anime left off.

I'm just saying having the trend of people thinking something is deep just because it has some homosexuality themes in it.


just think for a moment why.It isnt hard.Maybe because they omitted arcs,characters etc.Unless if you want to not like the story again.

You are definitely homophobic.Or just plain stupid.
Jun 5, 2013 6:26 AM

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Actually what parts of the manga the anime adapts?
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Actually what parts of the manga the anime adapts?
first arc of the manga and the Golden age arc(the flashback) with many cuts here and there.
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I'll just google the omitted parts and go "oh, that would've been interesting" like I do in any other adaptation.


Sounds to me like you're heterophobic, or homophobic-phobic :P
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HurricaneSweet said:
I'm on episode 18 right now, and this feels just like a battle shonen to me, I mean like a HEAVY battle shonen with too many shonen scenes. The plot so far is very simple, and the whole talking silly things during fights about how the enemy is very strong or whatever, and all that stuff in YYH or Bleach or something...

i'm a hardcore fan for this series..
i laughed so hard when i read your thread xD
i will say this (( BerserK isn't for everyone ))
only few ppl get how Great this series is.
so what's so special about it? Does it get better? Or do people nowadays think something is deep just because it has some homosexuality themes in it?

Every elements.. it does.. no they don't..

btw: if you rate it 1 or 10.. if you like it or not.. no one care lol
in the end this is your opinion no one will change it..
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Pirating_Ninja said:



(ps: I don't hate when people talk poorly about a series I like (which in this case is the case) however I don't like when people assume that anime=manga ... i.e. you watched the anime, but last time I checked most people say the manga is great ... so then you are assuming that the anime=manga? Don't like ignorance like that)


No one said anime=manga. The guy is talking about the anime series in the anime series discussion forum. There is no ignorance being displayed here.

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I don't even consider Berserk "dark".


lol?

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that eoten be eatin the pizza pi

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Jun 5, 2013 1:47 PM

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HurricaneSweet said:
Thanks tsudecimo :)

@SSjok Why would I start the manga, i'll just pick up where the anime left off.

I'm just saying having the trend of people thinking something is deep just because it has some homosexuality themes in it.


If you read the manga..read it from the volume 1. The anime is great but they left out a very important character and left out a few things from the arcs that it did cover.
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Heed our advice and start from chapter 1.
There's some key things, as said, that you may be missing. Also just because there is some homosexual themes involved, isn't what make it dark, you're completely off.

Just try reading the manga and you'll see Berserk's true face, but I'm sorry, you're version of dark appears to be something completely different from what dark actually is.
Berserk is nowhere near shounen like Bleach or YYH.
Touch me, you filthy casual~
Jun 5, 2013 2:01 PM
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I like how you guys are still telling him to read the manga. He made this topic because he wants people to get mad. Just drop it, this guy is just a butthurt troll.
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@SSjok Why would I start the manga, i'll just pick up where the anime left off.


The anime is awesome in my opinion, was one of the first series I ever watched and had a great influence on me. Sort of the series that got me into anime. However I think you'd be making a huge mistake to compare it to the manga. The manga is fucking glorious. The Golden Age Arc is like a greek tragedy, it is cathartic and haunting. You'd be making a rather big error to just skip the best arc in the whole manga just because you saw its' diluted anime version. There is much material you'd be skipping over. Adjust your attitude and perspective, read the story as Miura intended. He probably won't finish the story anyways. But the Golden Age Arc alone will go down in history as perhaps the best manga arc ever written. Why would one wish to skip such a thing? A tale of medieval warfare, strategy, dark fantasy, tragedy, betrayal, lust, vengeance...

Come on dude, get a grip and quit being a fucking sourpuss or just go read Harry Potter or something. I'm pretty sure you're the guy who hates on One Piece but somehow likes Naruto and Bleach. You seem to have a pretty warped idea of what makes a quality story. Pretty warped indeed.
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^ No I think all big 3 suck :D

Anyway I already know the 'ommited' scenes like that rape scene and stuff, still I'll just read where it left off, no need to read 50 chapters of content I already got the main idea of. And for most of it (the golden egg arc or w/e) wasn't really impressive as I mentioned, so having these "extra bits and pieces" isn't that much interesting to me, I just hope the maga continues with the present time, with him and the fairy and the evil guy's daughter and where he was crying, and continue from there. (after resolving the whole griffith descent thing ofc)
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Also how dense is the fantasy element? I mean is it more like demons here and there and everywhere or more infrequent and surprising like Game of Thrones for example?
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Gave Naruto a 9.....

Yes lets ignore a big and necessary part of the story just because....
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This, seriously that's how I'm feeling right now...
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Gave Naruto a 9.....

Yes lets ignore a big and necessary part of the story just because....


Honestly, I only gave it that score because I like to test how people feel about it :P

And what other parts? Say them right here? What did I 'miss" exactly?
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ssjokg said:
This, seriously that's how I'm feeling right now...
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^ he just hates me :P
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ssjokg said:
This, seriously that's how I'm feeling right now...
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HurricaneSweet said:
^ No I think all big 3 suck :D

Anyway I already know the 'ommited' scenes like that rape scene and stuff, still I'll just read where it left off, no need to read 50 chapters of content I already got the main idea of. And for most of it (the golden egg arc or w/e) wasn't really impressive as I mentioned, so having these "extra bits and pieces" isn't that much interesting to me, I just hope the maga continues with the present time, with him and the fairy and the evil guy's daughter and where he was crying, and continue from there. (after resolving the whole griffith descent thing ofc)


You might adjust your perspective and learn to respect a story unless you want to keep going in circles and only enjoying the same old bullshit that is all about sensory overload and special effects instead of good writing, characterization and execution. Also you make judgments too quickly. You haven't even read the manga yet and you're already wanting to skip over the best part. Might as well just not read it at all. I think you might be better off watching hollywood movies and TV crime dramas and basically doing things that don't require your brain to remain active.
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This isn't my review on Berserk, this is me asking if it gets better from this point, as all I see is [stuff I mentioned], so what I need from you guys is a list of things I should expect from the story after the finale :/

"t sensory overload and special effects"
Seriously why do you guys just assume this.

My MAIN problem was that it didn't HAVE any good writing/characterization (except for a couple of moments, and when I say couple I mean it; TWO), and it was all just the sensory overload and blood and gore. Even Jojo had more brains than this.


Brain to remain active? how is a thousand sword slashes brain stimulating?
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Do I really have to post the same reaction pic again?
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No, post the parts that were removed to tell me what I'd "miss"
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^ he just hates me :P
Trust me OP I don't hate you, it's just that other people have already explained to you what you need to know, and yet it seems like you don't want to understand.
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
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HurricaneSweet said:
^ he just hates me :P
Trust me OP I don't hate you, it's just that other people have already explained to you what you need to know, and yet it seems like you don't want to understand.
Dont want or cant?
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ssjokg said:
el_putazo said:
HurricaneSweet said:
^ he just hates me :P
Trust me OP I don't hate you, it's just that other people have already explained to you what you need to know, and yet it seems like you don't want to understand.
Dont want or cant?
Let me go with can't.
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Jun 5, 2013 3:33 PM
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I'm talking about the other guy he has a grudge on me :P

I know "read from ch.1" but I already said i'm gonna continue, there's no point in going back. I'm sure there isn't anything crucial to the story, if there are, provide examples?
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Did you skip the arcs/eps of the new HxH that you had already seen in the old series?Why?That is your answer, only that Berserk>>>>some shounen series like HxH ,YYh,Naruto etc
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HurricaneSweet said:
I'm talking about the other guy he has a grudge on me :P

I know "read from ch.1" but I already said i'm gonna continue, there's no point in going back. I'm sure there isn't anything crucial to the story, if there are, provide examples?
There's a whole shtload of examples, just read page one of chapter one, JUST DO IT.
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