About this anime...

stanklem28 said:
Well, how satisfying is the ending? Does it close up most, if not all, lose ends? Or is it just, "ok we're done here..."

tsudecimo said:

Why not for once in your life just watch dude? geez..

stanklem28 said:
Well, how satisfying is the ending? Does it close up most, if not all, lose ends? Or is it just, "ok we're done here..."

tsudecimo said:

Why not for once in your life just watch dude? geez..

tsudecimo said:

Why not for once in your life just watch dude? geez..

stanklem28 said:


So far, Shinsekai Yori turned excellent on episode 4. Nice!

macamiki said:

well ep 5-8 wont be so "nice" :P
this anime isnt very good when it comes to action
so you are probably going to be disappointed there but try not to drop it since it gets good again especially when the "apocalypse" starts

stanklem28 said:
Man, this anime does go to shit after episode 4. What a shame.

stanklem28 said:
Yeah, I'm staying with it, partially because the art is good.

So far, this anime is slow, but it feels like the creators are trying to make soup out of my brain cells, as in, this anime messes with my head. All that messed up shit going on...then the random rat people doing messed-up things, lol. Geez, the way they talk, especially that Squealer, scares me. It's like a rapist trying to sound nice all the time. Plus, do you notice the freaky music that plays every time the kids encounter Squealer? >_< Gives me chills.

macamiki said:

well i hope you are ready for bi theme at ep 8 (and its only ep 8)
ps are you watching in sd or hd

AirStyles said:
FUCK YEAH!

LOOK AT THE RATING SPIKE OF THIS ANIME UPON ITS END!!!

From what? 7.21 all the way up to 8.14? And this is just the first day.

BakaGekai said:
Bear it out - it turns almost into a masterpiece ...

Monde11 said:
and 45 minutes later it's 8.16, it's about damn time the score went up

wakka9ca said:
Massive ranking increase. Finally.

.. not that it matters anyway.

stanklem28 said:
My answer to that is because I watched Psycho-Pass all the way thru and it was a big disappointment. I was hoping for a twist to happen, or at least a satisfying ending. But nope, nothing happened.

So far, Shinsekai Yori turned excellent on episode 4. All the anachronisms add to the suspense and mystery of this anime.

matt_todd said:

This story doesn't, and cannot, give full closure. It does have an open ending, and it's a hopeful and bittersweet (rather than happy) ending. But it doesn't end abruptly (like Psycho-Pass) nor does it leave you wanting more.

Without giving too much away: The story is a rather scathing critique of a serious issue we humans are currently dealing with in many of our nations, and have dealt with poorly throughout our history. While we have made some progress, we still have a long way to go, and we can easily (and sometimes do) fall back into our deadly habits as we have before. But it is that we have made progress that we remain hopeful.

I won't say you'll "enjoy" watching this as this is not a light "entertaining" show to be enjoyed; this is not a "snack food" show. Instead this show provides one's brain lots of food for thought, and the ending does tie up enough to make it feel as satisfying as a meal.

Doomroar said:


Psycho-pass did had a defined ending. weather it was satisfying is another thing, for me it was a safe ending quite rational, if we consider the level of dependence its people have on Sybil.

But back to this other anime, i watched it until episode 5, and now i'm back, and i ask myself, damn look at all those guys talking wonders about this show, but they all are fixed on romantic subplots and pairings, which is not supposed to be the main focus of this, and for me is a big flaw since i see romance as a distraction and a cheap excuse to develop a story, i'm back here to ask is it worth it? i managed to watch ep 4 where i believe they explain how they made it so humans would chose affection to cope with difficult situations and stress, but as things stand today in this media, that could become a never ending chain of fanservice, especially with the cute aesthetics of this anime (to give you a better understandment of my concept of filler and fanservice, i will use a still fresh show: on psycho-pass the school and the identity robe arcs, where mostly just a bunch of filler and fanservice, with a little tiny bit of development, the problem is that with romance these deviations inside the story trend to intensify, so the fact that they didn't spare time on character relations was a good move, even more if these will eventually just fade, never seeing each other again, side note i liked psycho-pass not great but not bad just like it), again i repeat for me, fanservice includes a whole chapter where they decide to explore the relationships or love life of the characters, when it is not supposed to be the main focus of the show, i don't have time for that, im here because this story deals supposedly with an alternate working society, not with some high school slice of life, the rat people wanting to rebel seemed like a nice addition but, i fear that, something like that happening is just wishful thinking.

I will give some little reasons to make explicit the why i dropped this at 5, and if you find them insignificant, that is fine as a matter of fact they weren't all that grave, but 20 episodes of that and i will end killing someone, added to that the ever present feeling of the show (this part is really only my fault, since cute things are not my thing), but if the show falls in contradiction, wastes time, or executes poorly or rushed or with little sense then is the show's team and writer fault, this is not a long list is just some little examples so you can tell me yes or no: when the kids gain access to the bio-library their attitude was unbelievable obnoxious, i understand they live on a pampered and protected society, but it was unbearable to witness, the lack of composure they had, specially from a group that is acting as kidnappers, and the adult that appears to secure them and send them to the authorities behaves with utmost incompetence, why this is relevant is because until this point other than a bunch of children gossip, and the average daily life of the characters was shown, with tiny bits of background inside the history of the story, to finally get something moving forward and then get it made this lazily made me drop it, does this keeps happening? is this series plot decent enough, or are you all hanged to a bunch of human drama relationships?

I really mean this, what drive me to start watching this series was the promises of a SF story, from an awarded book (which i may not even add to my list to read in the future if this ends here, and i understand adaptations certainly always fail to get and translate what the book can deliver, but so it happens that with this particular case, people fans or new seem to show themselves as pleased) and is not like a series cant have a romantic subplot, but if this gets in the way and shows itself as a bunch of fanservice and filler (in the sense again i repeat, that if one or both lovers suddenly disappear the world will just go its normal way, oblivious of what happened. ended in a pointless demonstration.) i will just not see this.

You see the person i quoted at the beginning of this message ask to stanklem to be prepared to encounter a deep compelling well tough show, thus he needs to take it seriously and not treat it like plain entertainment, but am i really getting that here?

I have learned that the best way is to just go and watch the show, since i know that people opinions are generally a waste of time, the problem here is that i already dropped this series once, and the sources i have to know if this is really worth it, are not really all that reliable, either they are a bunch of love fanatics, are filled with contradictions, or just can't manage to explain why this is good.

So here i'm cornered between an early disappointing that could have come as rushed since i dropped before anything could actually be shown, and the promise that this can be more and better, i don't like to ask these things but here i am.

AirStyles said:

To everything you say, I only have one response....

"I'm more surprise at how little you manage to learn about the kids and their society from episode 4."

After episode 4, it's as clear as daylight that "different" is the least that we can say about their upbringing, let alone how their society operates.

Just keep watching the show, episode 4 barely scratched the surface of their society.

Romance? I guess that's one way to look at it.
For Shinsekai, it's more like "Bond".

I cannot find a better way to word it, and yes, they are relevant for the upcoming plot.

Doomroar said:


Psycho-pass did had a defined ending. weather it was satisfying is another thing, for me it was a safe ending quite rational, if we consider the level of dependence its people have on Sybil.

But back to this other anime, i watched it until episode 5, and now i'm back, and i ask myself, damn look at all those guys talking wonders about this show, but they all are fixed on romantic subplots and pairings, which is not supposed to be the main focus of this, and for me is a big flaw since i see romance as a distraction and a cheap excuse to develop a story, i'm back here to ask is it worth it? i managed to watch ep 4 where i believe they explain how they made it so humans would chose affection to cope with difficult situations and stress, but as things stand today in this media, that could become a never ending chain of fanservice, especially with the cute aesthetics of this anime (to give you a better understandment of my concept of filler and fanservice, i will use a still fresh show: on psycho-pass the school and the identity robe arcs, where mostly just a bunch of filler and fanservice, with a little tiny bit of development, the problem is that with romance these deviations inside the story trend to intensify, so the fact that they didn't spare time on character relations was a good move, even more if these will eventually just fade, never seeing each other again, side note i liked psycho-pass not great but not bad just like it), again i repeat for me, fanservice includes a whole chapter where they decide to explore the relationships or love life of the characters, when it is not supposed to be the main focus of the show, i don't have time for that, im here because this story deals supposedly with an alternate working society, not with some high school slice of life, the rat people wanting to rebel seemed like a nice addition but, i fear that, something like that happening is just wishful thinking.

I will give some little reasons to make explicit the why i dropped this at 5, and if you find them insignificant, that is fine as a matter of fact they weren't all that grave, but 20 episodes of that and i will end killing someone, added to that the ever present feeling of the show (this part is really only my fault, since cute things are not my thing), but if the show falls in contradiction, wastes time, or executes poorly or rushed or with little sense then is the show's team and writer fault, this is not a long list is just some little examples so you can tell me yes or no: when the kids gain access to the bio-library their attitude was unbelievable obnoxious, i understand they live on a pampered and protected society, but it was unbearable to witness, the lack of composure they had, specially from a group that is acting as kidnappers, and the adult that appears to secure them and send them to the authorities behaves with utmost incompetence, why this is relevant is because until this point other than a bunch of children gossip, and the average daily life of the characters was shown, with tiny bits of background inside the history of the story, to finally get something moving forward and then get it made this lazily made me drop it, does this keeps happening? is this series plot decent enough, or are you all hanged to a bunch of human drama relationships?

I really mean this, what drive me to start watching this series was the promises of a SF story, from an awarded book (which i may not even add to my list to read in the future if this ends here, and i understand adaptations certainly always fail to get and translate what the book can deliver, but so it happens that with this particular case, people fans or new seem to show themselves as pleased) and is not like a series cant have a romantic subplot, but if this gets in the way and shows itself as a bunch of fanservice and filler (in the sense again i repeat, that if one or both lovers suddenly disappear the world will just go its normal way, oblivious of what happened. ended in a pointless demonstration.) i will just not see this.

You see the person i quoted at the beginning of this message ask to stanklem to be prepared to encounter a deep compelling well tough show, thus he needs to take it seriously and not treat it like plain entertainment, but am i really getting that here?

I have learned that the best way is to just go and watch the show, since i know that people opinions are generally a waste of time, the problem here is that i already dropped this series once, and the sources i have to know if this is really worth it, are not really all that reliable, either they are a bunch of love fanatics, are filled with contradictions, or just can't manage to explain why this is good.

So here i'm cornered between an early disappointing that could have come as rushed since i dropped before anything could actually be shown, and the promise that this can be more and better, i don't like to ask these things but here i am.

Doomroar said:


can you elaborate? not about the bonding, i really don't care about that, even if they are somehow relevant(since that means some decisions will be reasoned if at all might better said will be made instead of reasoned, on values instead of ends), especially on this one being that i already watched ep 4 and there is no danger to spoil anything.

AirStyles said:

IronLobster said:

Did you even see the first minute of this show? It should already foreshadow the whole atmosphere. It's hardly about romance, this series. You have a history of blood, mystery, secrets, and psychological mind fucking. If you stick around long enough, you might just receive your "promises of a SF story." I will warn you however, there will be some homosexuality scenes, but they are mostly explained, so if you are weak-hearted, then you should stop watching. It's hard to get the series going in just four episodes, but I can tell you that you won't be finding any slice of life, moe, fanservice. This show isn't "cute," nor is it meant to be.

Doomroar said:

thanks AirStyles quite a complete exemplification of what the series can deliver, but

well i have decided thanks to the good work of AirStyles to give this series a try, but that would be on a future.



unlike Airstyles you said nothing, this show aesthetics are indeed what can be called moe, and that goes from the characters to the scenery, they are all cutely made.

You tell me that this has "a history of blood, mystery, secrets, and psychological mind fucking" but you don't say why that can even be, as long as i'm concerned those are a bunch of empty promises.
Mind fucking is a horrible term, it means the audience was passive enough to be unable to understand the plot, but that does not implies that the plot by relation is complicated, and in most cases can even mean that it was badly executed.

Lastly the homosexuality parts where a big part of what most of the highly unreliable sources that trend to fall into fanaticism where talking about, as long as it is justified i don't really have a problem with it, and that was already explained on ep 4 and on ep 5 we get an example these actions as one of the kids forgets himself into her partner instead of thinking a way out of their current problematic situation, so if that happens on the future is really not surprising, what i wanted to know is if the evident "bonds" as Airstyles calls them where relevant enough to be dedicated time on, and the answer i was given was yes.

IronLobster said:

I can agree, the bond are relevant. Though, you seem to be afraid of the direction the plot is going, with the fanservice and how it might appear in the future. I am simply saying that you won't, except for a couple of relevant homosexual scenes. You might find my information unreliable, but hey... I didn't find any need to provide more than empty promises, it all depends on whether you take my word for it. My goal isn't to type a whole essay to change anyone's mind, it's simply to answer your questions. Perhaps my use of "cute" was a bit problematic, since we interpret it differently. As for the mind fucking, again, it all depends on how you interpret it. You could ask me to to provide more details and I'm glad that Airstyles has been a lot more helpful than me, but there's no need to critic people.

wakka9ca said:

So far, out of the two SF anime of last season, Shinsekai Yori > Psycho Pass.

mayukachan said:

Out of all of the anime last season, Shinsekai Yori and Psycho Pass were the best. Which did I prefer? SSY actually, but I have to say that PP had a much stronger start than SSY.