| I'm thinking about getting Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness on PSP. I just got a PSP for 40 bucks from a friend and I've realized I need more to play on it than SNES and GBA games I had when I was in grade school. I've heard that Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness was the definitive version of the first game in the series and that people can sink hundreds of hours into it as well as grind your characters to 9999 as well as a unique story and characters. Would anyone here recommend the game/series? I'm only interested in getting it on the PSP since friends, school and work cause me to be away from home a lot. |
| I've only played Disgaea 3. Funniest game I've ever played. The actual game is pretty short (all of them in the series), but you can spend forever getting your characters to level 9999, and also leveling up weapons to 9999, and there are secret scenarios after you beat the game when you get to certain levels, which means high replay value, but the actual game wouldn't require you to actually grind that much. The main attractions to any Disgaea game are the ridiculous plot and dialogue. |
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| The first Disgaea was good, so I assume the PSP port is good as well. The later games in the series don't really change the formula much, so I think the series has gotten stale over time. The newest game coming out (Disgaea D2) looks like it'll be good though. |
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| Grinding to 9999 isn't time consuming in Disgaea, well at least for 4, I don't remember much of 3 and under. I'm sure each had their own abuse-able grinding map to get to Lv9999 in a no time once you've reached a certain point. I can get to 9999 in D4 in like just a few battles and hell, level isn't even a problem in the game. Now, obtaining the best gear and reaching the best of the best stats is what will take you a long time, even if you plan to dupe. If your only interested to play the story mode, it probably won't last you very long as the story itself isn't too long. Very fun though. So that 'hundreds of hours' will vary on what your planning to do with the game. |
| Yes, Disgaea is by far the best JRPG series flat out, nothing compares or even comes close, and I'm assuming that it's cheap as balls now... I still have yet to truly beat any game other than the first one, because the final fight in all of them is beyond impossible unless you have no life. Besides the game is hilarious and never fails to make you laugh. |
| *Cringey anime weeb stuff* |
| Just go get an emulator and test out the series yourself. If you think it's worth buying, then buy it. |
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FreakyTy said: Yes, Disgaea is by far the best JRPG series flat out, nothing compares or even comes close, and I'm assuming that it's cheap as balls now... I still have yet to truly beat any game other than the first one, because the final fight in all of them is beyond impossible unless you have no life. Besides the game is hilarious and never fails to make you laugh. This. Disgaea is the craziest, funniest and the deepest Jrpg out there. Disgaea 4 in my opinion is the best one yet (Disgaea D2 might change that) and it has gorgeous HD sprites. |
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| I thought Disgaea was great. Not sure about the ports though. The DS port had lousy music and some.. other reductions I'm not recalling at the moment. |
| The story was awesome. As far as I got though, dropped it because of the incessant, snoozeworthy grinding. Hell, and people complained that FFT was grindy, lol. So if you love to grind your bowels out, it's awesome, and if not, it is still probably worth a try so you can at least play the story. Oh and if you haven't already, get FFT as well. Way less grinding unless you want everyone to become dark knights or something (and two provide more than enough rape as it is) and probably the best story I've seen in JRPG. |
Paul said: Grinding to 9999 isn't time consuming in Disgaea, well at least for 4, I don't remember much of 3 and under. I'm sure each had their own abuse-able grinding map to get to Lv9999 in a no time once you've reached a certain point. I can get to 9999 in D4 in like just a few battles and hell, level isn't even a problem in the game. Now, obtaining the best gear and reaching the best of the best stats is what will take you a long time, even if you plan to dupe. Getting to that point is time consuming though, as it involves making a weapon strong enough to kill hard monsters in one shot and grinding for exp boosting specialists. Weapons are the real source of your power in Disgaea anyway, levels don't really do as much. |
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| I didn't enjoy the first game very much. I own the psp port of it. It is a solid port, but its story is less appealing than the future ones. If you are into deep grinding, and strategy you will probably adore the game, but if not it will just be an average title. |
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| It's truth that the first Disgaea hasn´t the most appealing graphics , but it has a great story, the characters are awesome and the ost is good. It doesn't require a lot of grinding to get trought the main story , you just need to grind if you want to get the best gear and beat some "uber" enemy in the game and still is far less grind than the rest of the series, besides it has cameos from other NIS games. |
| I certainly enjoy Disgaea. Quite humorous dialogue at times, and the combat's not too shabby either. There's also a decent amount of units to choose from for your party. I've beaten the first one and more recently the second one, and once I've got the spare time and money I plan on going through the third. |
| i only played Disgaea 4, loved it! |
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| For people saying it requires grinding, there are particular levels --if you pay attention to how much experience you're getting-- that gives you vastly more experience than other levels. For example, it might take you only 10 minutes to gain the same experience that in other levels would take hours. You just need to find the right places, find out the "trick" to pulling off the highest chains, or go to those weapons world dungeons (whatever it's called) where you get awesome shit. |
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katsucats said: And?For people saying it requires grinding, there are particular levels --if you pay attention to how much experience you're getting-- that gives you vastly more experience than other levels. For example, it might take you only 10 minutes to gain the same experience that in other levels would take hours. You just need to find the right places, find out the "trick" to pulling off the highest chains, or go to those weapons world dungeons (whatever it's called) where you get awesome shit. That's all still grinding, even in the most efficient conditions. |
| I ordered the game the night that I made this post and it hasn't even shipped yet, dammit. I've had it recommended by so many people on forums though, I'm excited to get it! |
Narmy said: The later games in the series don't really change the formula much, so I think the series has gotten stale over time. That is a funny assertion considering how much almost all NIS games use the same or similar formula and yet NIS is able to make more games year after year not to mention that Disgaea is their flagship franchise. Do you also think that Pepsi has gotten stale because it has used the same formula for decades for it's soda? Silly hippies. |
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Anime_Name said: Narmy said: The later games in the series don't really change the formula much, so I think the series has gotten stale over time. That is a funny assertion considering how much almost all NIS games use the same or similar formula and yet NIS is able to make more games year after year not to mention that Disgaea is their flagship franchise. Do you also think that Pepsi has gotten stale because it has used the same formula for decades for it's soda? Silly hippies. It's called an opinion. |
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Narmy said: It's called an opinion. And my comment would be called a rebuttal. I don't really see how it being your opinion means anything special. I repeat. Your opinion is laughable considering how well NIS is doing with that formula. It is my opinion that you merely exaggerated your position in order to create a more dramatic comment. |
Anime_NameJan 26, 2013 8:53 PM
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Anime_Name said: And my comment would be called a rebuttal. I don't really see how it being your opinion means anything special. I repeat. Your opinion is laughable considering how well NIS is doing with that formula. It is my opinion that you merely exaggerated your position in order to create a more dramatic comment. That's nice. What's your point? |
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Narmy said: Anime_Name said: And my comment would be called a rebuttal. I don't really see how it being your opinion means anything special. I repeat. Your opinion is laughable considering how well NIS is doing with that formula. It is my opinion that you merely exaggerated your position in order to create a more dramatic comment. That's nice. What's your point? My point was in the original reply to your first post in this topic. Currently I am just reminding how conversations work. How do hippies function on negative brain cells? |
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Anime_Name said: My point was in the original reply to your first post in this topic. Currently I am just reminding how conversations work. How do hippies function on negative brain cells? There's no point there besides you mistaking my personal opinion for an assertion about the series as a whole and then getting all upset about it. Narmy said: The later games in the series don't really change the formula much, so I think the series has gotten stale over time. Those are the words you missed. |
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Those are the words you missed. Since when do those little words make any comment unassailable? Oh that's right. They don't. |
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Baman said: katsucats said: And?For people saying it requires grinding, there are particular levels --if you pay attention to how much experience you're getting-- that gives you vastly more experience than other levels. For example, it might take you only 10 minutes to gain the same experience that in other levels would take hours. You just need to find the right places, find out the "trick" to pulling off the highest chains, or go to those weapons world dungeons (whatever it's called) where you get awesome shit. That's all still grinding, even in the most efficient conditions. Evert Jrpg has grinding, deal with it. |
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Darkjolly said: No they don't.Evert Jrpg has grinding, deal with it. |
Baman said: Darkjolly said: No they don't.Evert Jrpg has grinding, deal with it. While I do think disproving absolutes are easy I would like to see you counter Darkjolly's statement and an actual example. Doing so would demonstrate your understanding of both grinding and what's an RPG. |
Anime_NameJan 27, 2013 10:34 AM
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Anime_Name said: On the top of my head, FFI, Dragon Quest IV, SMT Devil Survivor, Pokemon, Golden Sun, BoF I and II, Chrono Trigger. As far as I recall, all these were pretty straightforward and did not necessitate any grinding outside of the odd optional boss. Of course, hardly any of these are really RPGs, but they are "JRPGs" according to the common bastardisation of the term.While I do think disproving absolutes are easy I would like to see you counter Darkjolly's statement and an actual example. Doing so would demonstrate your understanding of both grinding and what's an RPG. |
| First off, no one said anything about grinding being necessary in every RPG. It was just that some form of grinding is present in every RPG to date. Now that the goalposts have been moved back into their proper let me get started. Devil Survivor has grinding. Leveling is relevant and farming for certain monsters/skills for fusions are big time sinks in most SMT games. Golden Sun and Pokemon both use a seemingly random stat increases that most casual players would regard as random when leveling up but can be manipulated through grinding in certain areas. Then there's the whole Pokemon egg move thing, berries, preparation for the elite four, and post game that are all grinds. There isn't a lot of grinding in DQIV but depending on your levels it may be necessary to grind both trying the bonus dungeon and certain bosses in order to get spells. I don't know much about the rest as I have not played them but if those examples are like your other ones then it seems you are confusing "no grinding" with "not a lot of grinding". The latter doesn't address Darkjolly's claim. |
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| In a word, yes. Disgaea has great humor, story, and gameplay. IMO a lot of memorable characters and a great battle system per usual with all of Nippon's games. Great game, go for it. |
Anime_Name said: Uh. Grinding is an action the player can choose to do. Thus logically, the only way I can interpret the wording of "This game has grinding" is that the game necessitates it.First off, no one said anything about grinding being necessary in every RPG. It was just that some form of grinding is present in every RPG to date. Now that the goalposts have been moved back into their proper let me get started. It goes without saying that pretty much every level-stat-xp based battle system allows for grinding. A grind-heavy game is a game that relies on grinding as opposed to natural progression. Sure, you can be completely anal and claim that "grinding" in this context actually means the possibility of it, but then you've moved way out of the intuitive use of the term. Suit yourself. Oh, also, I thought of one that doesn't have grinding at all; Zelda! |
Baman said: Disgaea doesn't require grinding to beat the game. You can beat Disgaea 3 (I use 3 as an example because it's what I'm most familiar with) under 15 minutes if you knew exactly what to do. As with most RPGs, you can grind to get optional abilities, which Disgaea games have no shortage of.katsucats said: And?For people saying it requires grinding, there are particular levels --if you pay attention to how much experience you're getting-- that gives you vastly more experience than other levels. For example, it might take you only 10 minutes to gain the same experience that in other levels would take hours. You just need to find the right places, find out the "trick" to pulling off the highest chains, or go to those weapons world dungeons (whatever it's called) where you get awesome shit. That's all still grinding, even in the most efficient conditions. I have to say that if you've never fought even one superfluous battle in any of the games you've listed, perhaps you don't really enjoy JRPGs to begin with. |
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katsucats said: Well, I recall I had to grind quite a bit in the first one to clear a lot of story levels, replaying over and over that one map where you could combine enemies and put them on the one tile without invincibility. Disgaea doesn't require grinding to beat the game. You can beat Disgaea 3 (I use 3 as an example because it's what I'm most familiar with) under 15 minutes if you knew exactly what to do. As with most RPGs, you can grind to get optional abilities, which Disgaea games have no shortage of. I'm pretty sure there's no way to clear that in 15 minutes at least. |
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