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Naruto has always had mature themes, but with the Manga now having very bloody scenes considered gory by the fandom and going deeper than your average Shounen. Thoughts?
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Dec 22, 2012 3:37 PM
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>Naruto
>deeper than your average shonen

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Dec 22, 2012 3:40 PM
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Naruto has always had mature themes, but with the Manga now having very bloody scenes considered gory by the fandom and going deeper than your average Shounen. Thoughts?

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In short, no. I think society (haha.. society..) is pretty tolerant of gore these days, as long as it's not guro.
Dec 22, 2012 3:41 PM
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This might be the worst thread ever...
Dec 22, 2012 3:47 PM
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rederoin said:
>Naruto
>deeper than your average shonen

HUEHUEHUE


I get a feeling you're not intending to seriously contribute to this discussion. GTFO. We don't need haters here! Go back to the SAO subforums! Naruto is deeper and more symbolism than other shounens, even some shoujos.
Dec 22, 2012 3:52 PM
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Pandarenboy said:
Thoughts?


You're an idiot.
Dec 22, 2012 3:52 PM
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phnsr said:
rederoin said:
>Naruto
>deeper than your average shonen

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I get a feeling you're not intending to seriously contribute to this discussion. GTFO. We don't need haters here! Go back to the SAO subforums! Naruto is deeper and more symbolism than other shounens, even some shoujos.


EVEN some shoujos? Shoujos are just love stories. Nothing deep in them. Most shounens are deeper with more meaning than shoujos. Even comedies are deeper than shoujos.
As about Naruto being deeper than other shounens? Well i guess that depends on what you compare it with. There certainly shounens out there that are more thought provoking and with even more deep meanings. But whether Naruto has some messages or not it is made in a way to attract young teenage audience. It's obvious the mangaka doesn't want to create a really grown-up work. That doesn't mean a grown up can't enjoy it but some things are too corny for a grown-up mind.
Dec 22, 2012 3:52 PM
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Thoughts?


You're an idiot.

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Dec 22, 2012 3:53 PM
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phnsr said:
rederoin said:
>Naruto
>deeper than your average shonen

HUEHUEHUE


I get a feeling you're not intending to seriously contribute to this discussion. GTFO. We don't need haters here! Go back to the SAO subforums! Naruto is deeper and more symbolism than other shounens, even some shoujos.


Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.
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Thoughts?


You're an idiot.

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Dec 22, 2012 3:56 PM

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Another troll thread. *sigh*
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phnsr said:
rederoin said:
>Naruto
>deeper than your average shonen

HUEHUEHUE


I get a feeling you're not intending to seriously contribute to this discussion. GTFO. We don't need haters here! Go back to the SAO subforums! Naruto is deeper and more symbolism than other shounens, even some shoujos.

Why do you directly assume I like SAO?
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RandomPerson2 said:
IceBurn said:
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Thoughts?


You're an idiot.

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IntroverTurtle said:
Another troll thread. *sigh*


Contrary to popular belief, I'm completely serious, though. Many fans of Naruto consider this a fact by now.
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Kids will watch R-rated shit anyway with gore, nudity and other suggestive themes.

Changing the rating won't affect anything.

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IntroverTurtle said:
Another troll thread. *sigh*


Contrary to popular belief, I'm completely serious, though. Many fans of Naruto consider this a fact by now.


Because I'm a silly goose who doesn't want to look it up, could you give us some examples?
Dec 22, 2012 4:10 PM

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Naruto...deep... LOLZ!
Naruto...bloody? Go watch Elfen Lied.
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The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
Naruto...deep... LOLZ!
Naruto...bloody? Go watch Elfen Lied.


Elfen Lied? Bloody?

What are you talking about, Nyu was so kawaii.

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Dec 22, 2012 4:10 PM

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NGE is pg here in NZ, including the movies and they're pretty gory and they also have some nudity in it. If they're pg, may as well keep naruto pg too.
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RandomPerson2 said:

Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.


You're saying it's not...? You must be high or something. I'm very knowledgeable of Anime and Naruto is as good as it can get... Ofcourse though, I'd love if there'd be even better Anime coming out someday in the future, but most likely; that's not going to happen.
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Pandarenboy said:
RandomPerson2 said:

Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.


You're saying it's not...? You must be high or something. I'm very knowledgeable of Anime and Naruto is as good as it can get... Ofcourse though, I'd love if there'd be even better Anime coming out someday in the future, but most likely; that's not going to happen.


Your expansive list sure does support your claims, like really man, these MAL'ers got nothing on you!

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Pandarenboy said:
RandomPerson2 said:

Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.


You're saying it's not...? You must be high or something. I'm very knowledgeable of Anime and Naruto is as good as it can get... Ofcourse though, I'd love if there'd be even better Anime coming out someday in the future, but most likely; that's not going to happen.


Your expansive list sure does support your claims, like really man, these MAL'ers got nothing on you!

But ofcourse... ;)
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Pandarenboy said:
RandomPerson2 said:

Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.


You're saying it's not...? You must be high or something. I'm very knowledgeable of Anime and Naruto is as good as it can get... Ofcourse though, I'd love if there'd be even better Anime coming out someday in the future, but most likely; that's not going to happen.

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Naruto... deep..

Good god I havn't laughed so hard in awhile.
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Yvese said:
Naruto... deep..

Good god I havn't laughed so hard in awhile.

This is what naruto fanboys acteally believe.

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Dec 22, 2012 4:19 PM

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Still have yet to provide examples to convince us of your point. *sigh*
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Pandarenboy said:
RandomPerson2 said:

Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.


You're saying it's not...? You must be high or something. I'm very knowledgeable of Anime and Naruto is as good as it can get... Ofcourse though, I'd love if there'd be even better Anime coming out someday in the future, but most likely; that's not going to happen.


Its not. I'm not high. You don't have a list. There are plenty better than Naruto right now and there will be for days to come.
Dec 22, 2012 4:20 PM
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No. I like Naruto and all, but no...

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Dec 22, 2012 4:21 PM

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you are serious? ...



That is a shounen too btw ... In fact Naruto is a rather tame shounen, very stereotypical (being one of the big 3 it quite literally defines the shounen genre -_-) for better or for worse...

I mean I don't see naruto doing



And that isn't the most gory of shounen either ... Naruto IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE a "mature" show ... or manga ...
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RandomPerson2 said:
phnsr said:
rederoin said:
>Naruto
>deeper than your average shonen

HUEHUEHUE


I get a feeling you're not intending to seriously contribute to this discussion. GTFO. We don't need haters here! Go back to the SAO subforums! Naruto is deeper and more symbolism than other shounens, even some shoujos.


Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.


Pretty sure he isn't serious....
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insan3soldiern said:
RandomPerson2 said:
phnsr said:
rederoin said:
>Naruto
>deeper than your average shonen

HUEHUEHUE


I get a feeling you're not intending to seriously contribute to this discussion. GTFO. We don't need haters here! Go back to the SAO subforums! Naruto is deeper and more symbolism than other shounens, even some shoujos.


Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.


Pretty sure he isn't serious....


Oh idk...narutards can be pretty close minded.
Dec 22, 2012 4:25 PM
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NGE is pg here in NZ, including the movies and they're pretty gory and they also have some nudity in it. If they're pg, may as well keep naruto pg too.


NGE is about as cliche as Fairy Tail, having fighting robots and all. The show isn't even that good. And hardly as bloody as Naruto currently. (the manga)

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Still have yet to provide examples to convince us of your point. *sigh*


Wtf?
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IntroverTurtle said:
Another troll thread. *sigh*


Contrary to popular belief, I'm completely serious, though. Many fans of Naruto consider this a fact by now.
I seriously doubt that you're serious.
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insan3soldiern said:
RandomPerson2 said:
phnsr said:
rederoin said:
>Naruto
>deeper than your average shonen

HUEHUEHUE


I get a feeling you're not intending to seriously contribute to this discussion. GTFO. We don't need haters here! Go back to the SAO subforums! Naruto is deeper and more symbolism than other shounens, even some shoujos.


Why do you Naruto-fans always assume that it's better than EVERY shounen out there? All the depth you're missing makes me really pity you.


Pretty sure he isn't serious....


He said he wasn't trolling but saying Naruto is symbolic or deep is just ... It is mainstream ... It isn't meant to be deep, it's at the same level as Twilight in terms of American Pop Culture, it is fucking brilliant when it comes to marketing, I mean from a marketing perspective it truly is a master piece ... but from a critical or literary perspective (the perspective one would take to assess plot/characters) ... it is shallow to say the least.
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Having ''very bloody scenes'' does not necessarily make it gory. Also, if you want a deep shounen, you should probably watch the FMA series.
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Oh idk...narutards can be pretty close minded.


Any fantard can be closed minded, let's be rational.

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IntroverTurtle said:
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IntroverTurtle said:
Another troll thread. *sigh*


Contrary to popular belief, I'm completely serious, though. Many fans of Naruto consider this a fact by now.
I seriously doubt that you're serious.

Whatever then.
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Tavor said:
The_Pro_At_Stuff said:


Oh idk...narutards can be pretty close minded.


Any fantard can be closed minded, let's be rational.


Narutards can be especially close minded. Some won't bother watching any other anime simply because they think its the best Shounen out there (like our OP here maybe)?
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The_Pro_At_Stuff said:
Tavor said:
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Oh idk...narutards can be pretty close minded.


Any fantard can be closed minded, let's be rational.


Narutards can be especially close minded. Some won't bother watching any other anime simply because they think its the best Shounen out there (like our OP here maybe)?


Toonami is a blessing and a curse, plays just the most mainstream stuff and all of a sudden you have idiots who honestly believe that quantity > quality ("a show less than 50 episodes shows laziness in the author and a poor plot") -_- ... and that any show unable to air on American TV (in other words anything that isn't mainstream shounen and does have a case for being too "mature") is obviously a sign of poor quality ...

Think that retards are just retards, not Narutards or w/e other show they are defending with all there might.
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you are serious? ...



That is a shounen too btw ... In fact Naruto is a rather tame shounen, very stereotypical (being one of the big 3 it quite literally defines the shounen genre -_-) for better or for worse...

I mean I don't see naruto doing



And that isn't the most gory of shounen either ... Naruto IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE a "mature" show ... or manga ...


And what in the world has that second pic anything to do with being gory or even bloody? Please... The instant you see someone with pretty face and cliche persona doing boring things like that you all go crazy about that sh*t.
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Why don't you dumbasses go rewatch Yuru Yuri or Sword Art Online instead of hating on Naruto because the manga is so successful?
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Still have yet to provide examples to convince us of your point. *sigh*


Wtf?


You say Naruto is gory but haven't provided us anything that is "gory," let alone an example.

Pirating_Ninja did, and I've seen much worse than that.

The trolling power is strong in this one...
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Why don't you dumbasses go rewatch Yuru Yuri or Sword Art Online instead of hating on Naruto because the manga is so successful?


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Why don't you dumbasses go rewatch Yuru Yuri or Sword Art Online instead of hating on Naruto because the manga is so successful?
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you are serious? ...



That is a shounen too btw ... In fact Naruto is a rather tame shounen, very stereotypical (being one of the big 3 it quite literally defines the shounen genre -_-) for better or for worse...

I mean I don't see naruto doing



And that isn't the most gory of shounen either ... Naruto IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE a "mature" show ... or manga ...


And what in the world has that second pic anything to do with being gory or even bloody? Please... The instant you see someone with pretty face and cliche persona doing boring things like that you all go crazy about that sh*t.


haha you don't get what's going on in that pic? Seriously, I mean I guess they don't show the freshly dead corpse until the next page but I thought it was pretty obvious that the dude was ripping his heart out ... I dunno though maybe to you it looks like a car just drove by right as he is about to perform CPR and mud splashed up?
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Having ''very bloody scenes'' does not necessarily make it gory. Also, if you want a deep shounen, you should probably watch the FMA series.

Uhh, people have been saying even _BEFORE_ the Pain invasion arc that Naruto is much deeper than FMA. So, No.
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Why don't you dumbasses go rewatch Yuru Yuri or Sword Art Online instead of hating on Naruto because the manga is so successful?


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Still have yet to provide examples to convince us of your point. *sigh*


Wtf?


You say Naruto is gory but haven't provided us anything that is "gory," let alone an example.

Pirating_Ninja did, and I've seen much worse than that.

The trolling power is strong in this one...


Naruto might not be gory but it's certainly the most mature of the 3. Shall we compare the first episode of Naruto, one piece or fairy tail?
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mahay_love said:
Having ''very bloody scenes'' does not necessarily make it gory. Also, if you want a deep shounen, you should probably watch the FMA series.

Uhh, people have been saying even _BEFORE_ the Pain invasion arc that Naruto is much deeper than FMA. So, No.

You're either a troll or I lost my faith in humanity
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