| I've seen a crapload of people mention that Cowboy Bebop, Baccano!, Black Lagoon, Samurai Champloo, Studio Ghibli, Wolf's Rain, FLCL, Fruits Basket, Ergo Proxy etc... have great dubs (which can also be considered arguably superior to their Japanese counterpart), but what about the lesser talked about ones? Are they lesser mentioned because fewer people tend to watch them or is it because people generally don't think they're that good?!? I am very curious to know what fellow MAL members think of the following anime dubbing quality: EXTREMELY CURIOUS ABOUT THE FOLLOWING: -Haibane Renmei -Honey and Clover -Durarara!! -Kino's Journey -Now and then, Here and There KIND OF CURIOUS (ONES I'VE ALREADY SEEN) -Koi Kaze (Pretty decent. Took awhile to get used to some voices. Not amazing though) -Paranoia Agent (I remember getting so caught up in the surrealism of it all that I'd forgotten that I was watching it dubbed) -Great Teacher Onizuka (I liked Steve Blum as Onizuka but alot of the other voices annoyed me so I decided to switch to sub halfway through) -Mushishi (It's good but I prefer the sub) Please comment if you've seen any of the listed anime in dub format and explain how good it was (or how bad). Are they so well-done that you'd consider some superior to the Sub? Are they just pretty good all around? Is there that one character who just completely sounds off? |
| 0/10 - All of them. |
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| those are all garbage problably except durarara |
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| I think you may have an easier time getting an answer asking members of the dub fan club or those who've seen a good number of dubs instead of making a thread basically asking everyone on this site since most people here have a sub only or mostly policy. I'm saying this so you can get some actual answers & avoid jokes like this... mitch3315 said: 0/10 - All of them. Anyway,I've seen half of Durarara dubbed & can say it's pretty good.It has a lot of the good voice actors. |
| My Devianart Oh & Space Brothers is still the best anime ever,in my opinion.Even when competing with Attack on Titan. |
mitch3315 said: 0/10 - All of them. |
JeddyVII said: I'm saying this so you can get some actual answers & avoid jokes like this... mitch3315 said: 0/10 - All of them. OP asked for our opinions on dubs, my opinion is that dubs are bad. Please do explain the joke in that, or is my opinion a joke simply because you don't agree with it? |
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mitch3315 said: JeddyVII said: I'm saying this so you can get some actual answers & avoid jokes like this... mitch3315 said: 0/10 - All of them. OP asked for our opinions on dubs, my opinion is that dubs are bad. Please do explain the joke in that, or is my opinion a joke simply because you don't agree with it? The post comes off as a joke because the OP asked for more information regarding how well the dub was or bad, not whether if you like dubs over subs and vice versa. |
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Tavor said: mitch3315 said: JeddyVII said: I'm saying this so you can get some actual answers & avoid jokes like this... mitch3315 said: 0/10 - All of them. OP asked for our opinions on dubs, my opinion is that dubs are bad. Please do explain the joke in that, or is my opinion a joke simply because you don't agree with it? The post comes off as a joke because the OP asked for more information regarding how well the dub was or bad, not whether of you like dubs over subs and vice versa. Yeah... I didn't read the last paragraph. |
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| Kino's Journey was decent I think. The voice of the bike was kinda annoying in japanese I think, so I switched to english where I really liked its voice. The settings are mostly neutral too so the dub didn't bother me on that end either. Mushishi was somehow decent (watched a couple of episodes with a friend), but I personally would never watch it dubbed again, too japanese setting and the pronounciations got annoying. Haven't seen any of the others dubbed even for a lottle while. |
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JeddyVII said: I think you may have an easier time getting an answer asking members of the dub fan club or those who've seen a good number of dubs instead of making a thread basically asking everyone on this site since most people here have a sub only or mostly policy. Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware that there was a dub fan club. Oh and just to clear things up, I prefer subs as well. The only reasons why I would consider watching dub is because 1. It's actually well-done (rare) 2. The fan-sub isn't good quality (as is the case for my versions of Honey and Clover and Haibane Renmei) |
| Mushi-shi without Travis Willingham is a crime yo. |
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| durarara's 8/10, mikado is kind of off but he gets better, the rest of the cast is strong enough to carry it, specificity crispin freeman as shizuo makes the dub great, patrick seitz as simon is hilarious, and johnny as izaya works as well. now and then here and there 5/10, some people really work but the dub like most 90's dubs lacked experience with the field of voice acting and ultimately kind of crumbles under itself, it also holds the only time you will hear crispin freeman doing a bad job. its not a bad dub but its not a good one, sub is better Akito_Kinomoto said: that about sums up mushishi's dubMushi-shi without Travis Willingham is a crime yo. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
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fantomu said: you just made the same mistake as mitchBad dubs. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| The dub for Haibane Renmei and Honey & Clover isn't bad. I would not say they are better then the Japanese one, but if I would definitely not mind having to watch it in english :3 In numbers I would say that if the Japanese voice is 10, these dubs are an 7.5~8 |
Seraph said: The dub for Haibane Renmei and Honey & Clover isn't bad. I would not say they are better then the Japanese one, but if I would definitely not mind having to watch it in english :3 In numbers I would say that if the Japanese voice is 10, these dubs are an 7.5~8 So if you had the choice between the dub and unaltered DVD subs (not fansub), which would you choose? |
| -Haibane Renmei-Really dull, but not broken I guess. I've heard tell that the sub is even duller somehow -Kino's Journey-very good job, even if they appeared to have changed Hermes' gender (but Hermes is a bike, it never had a real one). But Kino was played fantastically. -Now and then, Here and There-pretty damn bad, I had to switch over faster than I've ever switched over before. -Paranoia Agent-amazing, I wouldn't watch it any other way -Great Teacher Onizuka-There is Steve Blum, who is an awesome Onizuka. Then there is everyone else, I think like 5 people voiced the whole cast. If you're lucky, you get a not terrible voice, but most of them sound like gag dub voices. -Mushishi-I remember watching it sub, and the dub is pretty good, I just remember the sub being better. It's not at all a bad dub, just a better sub. |
FallnKnightFakir said: -Haibane Renmei-Really dull, but not broken I guess. I've heard tell that the sub is even duller somehow -Kino's Journey-very good job, even if they appeared to have changed Hermes' gender (but Hermes is a bike, it never had a real one). But Kino was played fantastically. -Now and then, Here and There-pretty damn bad, I had to switch over faster than I've ever switched over before. -Paranoia Agent-amazing, I wouldn't watch it any other way -Great Teacher Onizuka-There is Steve Blum, who is an awesome Onizuka. Then there is everyone else, I think like 5 people voiced the whole cast. If you're lucky, you get a not terrible voice, but most of them sound like gag dub voices. -Mushishi-I remember watching it sub, and the dub is pretty good, I just remember the sub being better. It's not at all a bad dub, just a better sub. I completely agree! I know for sure that I'm going to watch Kino's Journey in dub because Kino is voiced by my favorite female VA. |
| As usual, the dub-haters are very efficient in spouting knee-jerk generalities, but hard-pressed to come up with empirical statements about specific dubs that weren't done by 4Kids or for mass-market TV in the 90s. Haibane Renmei I could give a 9/10; the dub was done by the same studio that did Koi Kaze and Paranoia Agent (New Generation Pictures), and they were always good at low-key, mature anime. I don't recall any significantly "off" voices, and Carrie Savage as Rakka turns in a nice "against-type" performance. DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: The show may be from 1999, but it was dubbed in 2002. After watching it subbed back in 2005, I rewatched it dubbed a couple years ago and found the dub "better than I thought it would be." It's okay, but nothing remarkable or "better than the sub" about it. now and then here and there 5/10, some people really work but the dub like most 90's dubs lacked experience with the field of voice acting and ultimately kind of crumbles under itself, Honey & Clover - I didn't like what I heard of it, but I didn't hear too much of it. 2. The fan-sub isn't good quality (as is the case for my versions of Honey and Clover and Haibane Renmei) Really? The fansubs for Honey & Clover are significantly better than the official subs. The official subs suffer from bad localization, like subbing given names when family names are spoken, currency/unit conversions, and strangely unlocalized parts like leaving "senpai" untranslated. In short, they're a mess. You sure you don't have a dual-audio version, as opposed to the ANBU-Solar TV-fansubs or one of the rips (niizk, ANE) that used ANBU-Solar's subs?And Haibane Renmei? Those fansubs have barely even been available for much of the last 6-7 years. Unless you had old DivX3 .avis by AnimeOne or Wizzu, you had a version that was based on the official subs (cestfait, anime.fin, KAA, Coalgirls, DmonHiro, any dual-audio version). Kino's Journey -- I would call this one of ADV's "Golden Era" dubs. Restrained, subtle performances from VAs who weren't overused. Direction by Kyle Jones, who handled a number of ADV's drama-genre titles (Diamond Daydreams, Madlax, AIR, Kanon) and always showed respect for the material. Unlike Steven Foster who directs like 90% of Sentai's dubs today. Not sure if it's better than the sub, as both are quite good, but I'd give it at least an 8/10. GoldenBRS said: And as we know, those dubs were made in a magical isolation vacuum, and none of the actors/directors/writers involved with them ever worked on another anime dub. (Okay, true for Samuel L. Jackson of Afro Samurai, not so much for anyone else.)Death note dub is great. Bleach dub is good. Afro samaruai dub is exellent. Those dubs is good to watch. Anything dub shows are awful. |
| @Zalis Yes I have the dual-audio versions of Honey and Clover. I can download niizk, ANE that used ANBU-Solar's subs because those torrents still have seeds. However my copy of Haibane Renmei is dual audio and has DVD subs (non-fansub). The subtitles have defualt font, unlike any of the other styled fan-subs. Edit: The alternate torrent of Haibane Renmei is coalgirls dual-audio, but the # of seeders is low. |
Harmonium94Nov 22, 2012 3:01 PM
skullkid0 said: Seraph said: The dub for Haibane Renmei and Honey & Clover isn't bad. I would not say they are better then the Japanese one, but if I would definitely not mind having to watch it in english :3 In numbers I would say that if the Japanese voice is 10, these dubs are an 7.5~8 So if you had the choice between the dub and unaltered DVD subs (not fansub), which would you choose? I... have no idea xD I don't have any subs on that DVD :P But if there is a anime where I would choose the dub over the subs it would be Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai. Some parts are just way better in English then the original Japanese (or subs for that matter). |
Seraph said: skullkid0 said: Seraph said: The dub for Haibane Renmei and Honey & Clover isn't bad. I would not say they are better then the Japanese one, but if I would definitely not mind having to watch it in english :3 In numbers I would say that if the Japanese voice is 10, these dubs are an 7.5~8 So if you had the choice between the dub and unaltered DVD subs (not fansub), which would you choose? I... have no idea xD I don't have any subs on that DVD :P But if there is a anime where I would choose the dub over the subs it would be Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai. Some parts are just way better in English then the original Japanese (or subs for that matter). Screw it! I'm downloading the better subbed versions. I don't care if it takes another 2 days to start watching. Anyway thanks for the insight Seraph, Zalis, Higashi_no_Kaze, DJIzzyIzzyHitler, FallnKnightFakir and synthetichex |
Harmonium94Nov 22, 2012 3:19 PM
| I havent watched any of those dubs you mentioned, though i hear that Durarara has a really good dub. One underrated AND unappreciated English dub is the one for Full Metal Panic! Seriously, Chris Patton and Luci Christian are so good, they blow the Japanese cast out the water! And it's not just the main characters, EVERYONE is perfectly cast and acted! If you havent watched it yet, do so because it's awesome and up there with Cowboy Bebop and FMA as some of the best dubs ever! |
| Meh. I don't like dubs. They're all bad. |
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Jigglehpoof said: Meh. I don't like dubs. They're all bad. Again...this thread is not about whether you like dubs or not in general. "Please comment if you've seen any of the listed anime in dub format and explain how good it was (or how bad). Are they so well-done that you'd consider some superior to the Sub? Are they just pretty good all around? Is there that one character who just completely sounds off?" If you seen the anime OP is curious about dub'ed, explain why it's bad. |
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| i've watched both the paranoia agent and NTHT dub and i really don't remember them all that well, i would remember if either was particularly bad though. i've also heard mushishi dub was good. Jigglehpoof said: Meh. I don't like dubs. They're all bad. there are a lot of english dubs that are better than the japanese dub imo. you can't group them all together or assess the ones you haven't seen just because you've seen a fair share of bad ones. assuming you don't know the japanese language, i'm really not sure how you can compare the voice acting in the first place. |
skullkid0 said: For Honey & Clover, doesn't the presence of English audio, English credits, and "DVD-style" subs form a bit of a clue that it's not a fansub? While MAL may label any group releasing downloadable anime a "fansub" group, the reality is quite different. Traditionally, dual-audio releases are straight rips of the North American DVDs/Blu-Rays. They either leave the DVD imagesubs "as-is" or convert them to textsubs with minimal/no editing. However, with the transition from 100% hardsubs to 100% softsubs in the fansub scene, some groups have started using fansub scripts with dual-audio encodes. Check the groups' websites for details; CoalGirls, for example, will list their subtitle sources.@Zalis Yes I have the dual-audio versions of Honey and Clover. I can download niizk, ANE that used ANBU-Solar's subs because those torrents still have seeds. However my copy of Haibane Renmei is dual audio and has DVD subs (non-fansub). The subtitles have defualt font, unlike any of the other styled fan-subs. Edit: The alternate torrent of Haibane Renmei is coalgirls dual-audio, but the # of seeders is low. And for releases like the Haibane Renmei ones you have, you can change the default font to something else, if you choose. |
nqthing said: Then you speak Japanese, or how else do you know that there are English dubs better than the Japanese dub?Jigglehpoof said: Meh. I don't like dubs. They're all bad. there are a lot of english dubs that are better than the japanese dub imo. you can't group them all together or assess the ones you haven't seen just because you've seen a fair share of bad ones. assuming you don't know the japanese language, i'm really not sure how you can compare the voice acting in the first place. |
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IntroverTurtle said: nqthing said: Then you speak Japanese, or how else do you know that there are English dubs better than the Japanese dub?Jigglehpoof said: Meh. I don't like dubs. They're all bad. there are a lot of english dubs that are better than the japanese dub imo. you can't group them all together or assess the ones you haven't seen just because you've seen a fair share of bad ones. assuming you don't know the japanese language, i'm really not sure how you can compare the voice acting in the first place. ok i contradicted myself. there's still no way to justify saying all of one or the other is bad. while i do mostly watch subbed, i don't see any sense in avoiding or not watching a well-done dub in your own language, and there are several well-done english dubs. do you disagree with my point or have something to conclude or did you just point that out for the sake of stirring an argument? |
twerp_Nov 24, 2012 2:10 PM
| Durarara was pretty amazing even if some of the voices were a bit off. Johnny Yong Bosch vs Crispin Freeman is something that everyone should experience at least once in their life. Also, the Black Russian sushi vendor was hilarious in English. I wouldn't say it's superior to the sub but it's pretty close. If you like the sound of Hiroshi Kamiya, Kana Hanazawa, Mamoru Miyano and Daisuke Ono watch it subbed. If you'd prefer to hear Johnny Yong Bosch, Crispin Freeman, Steve Blum and Michelle Ruff watch it dubbed. You can't go wrong. They both have great casts. Although I usually watch it dubbed because it's a bit easier to understand the plot. Great Teacher Onizuka is godawful. And I wouldn't have it any other way. Half the show is either Steve Blum talking to himself or talking to Wendee Lee. Steve Blum is the only geniunely good performance but the show is even better with the 'so bad it's good' dub. Don't even think about watching the Japanese version |
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| Dubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... |
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BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
IcecreamManwich said: I havent watched any of those dubs you mentioned, though i hear that Durarara has a really good dub. One underrated AND unappreciated English dub is the one for Full Metal Panic! Seriously, Chris Patton and Luci Christian are so good, they blow the Japanese cast out the water! And it's not just the main characters, EVERYONE is perfectly cast and acted! If you havent watched it yet, do so because it's awesome and up there with Cowboy Bebop and FMA as some of the best dubs ever! Seconding this opinion |
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SquadmemberRitsu said: I havent watched any of those dubs you mentioned, though i hear that Durarara has a really good dub. One underrated AND unappreciated English dub is the one for Full Metal Panic! Seriously, Chris Patton and Luci Christian are so good, they blow the Japanese cast out the water! And it's not just the main characters, EVERYONE is perfectly cast and acted! If you havent watched it yet, do so because it's awesome and up there with Cowboy Bebop and FMA as some of the best dubs ever! totally second this, chris patton as souske is his 2nd best role(1st has to go to him as satou in NHK, come on you cant top that role) I think huge shout outs needs to go to the guy that polays the main villain gauron, he was already a memorable villain but the english VA makes him even better |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. |
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Tavor said: can we please stop using the word troll already, its like any time anyone says anything negative they are automatically a troll, bloodreqiuem isnt being a troll, hes being ignorant, huge differanceDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
nqthing said: I don't fully disagree with your point, just pointing that out because it bothered me.IntroverTurtle said: nqthing said: Then you speak Japanese, or how else do you know that there are English dubs better than the Japanese dub?Jigglehpoof said: Meh. I don't like dubs. They're all bad. there are a lot of english dubs that are better than the japanese dub imo. you can't group them all together or assess the ones you haven't seen just because you've seen a fair share of bad ones. assuming you don't know the japanese language, i'm really not sure how you can compare the voice acting in the first place. ok i contradicted myself. there's still no way to justify saying all of one or the other is bad. while i do mostly watch subbed, i don't see any sense in avoiding or not watching a well-done dub in your own language, and there are several well-done english dubs. do you disagree with my point or have something to conclude or did you just point that out for the sake of stirring an argument? |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: SquadmemberRitsu said: I havent watched any of those dubs you mentioned, though i hear that Durarara has a really good dub. One underrated AND unappreciated English dub is the one for Full Metal Panic! Seriously, Chris Patton and Luci Christian are so good, they blow the Japanese cast out the water! And it's not just the main characters, EVERYONE is perfectly cast and acted! If you havent watched it yet, do so because it's awesome and up there with Cowboy Bebop and FMA as some of the best dubs ever! totally second this, chris patton as souske is his 2nd best role(1st has to go to him as satou in NHK, come on you cant top that role) I think huge shout outs needs to go to the guy that polays the main villain gauron, he was already a memorable villain but the english VA makes him even better http://myanimelist.net/people/1605/Mike_MacRae Looking at his roles, I recognise him as Pootan from Cromartie High School (Which also has an amazing dub by ADV) but I don't know any of the other characters he voiced. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Tavor said: can we please stop using the word troll already, its like any time anyone says anything negative they are automatically a troll, bloodreqiuem isnt being a troll, hes being ignorant, huge differanceDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. To their own. The fact that he said "dubs are shit and that's a fact", I doubt BloodRequiem is being serious and is inviting in seeing a dub vs sub debate to happen for amusement. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Tavor said: can we please stop using the word troll already, its like any time anyone says anything negative they are automatically a troll, bloodreqiuem isnt being a troll, hes being ignorant, huge differanceDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. 1. Companies only dub shows they think will sell and even then they come out around a year later than when the show actually aired. 2. There's no soul and passion in dubs. It sounds like the voice actors are doing it just to get their paycheck. 3. Japanese voice actors are better trained in general. 4. Dialogue localized. Meanings of expressions/jokes are lost. 5. Same 5 voice actors for a million characters. |
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Tavor said: can we please stop using the word troll already, its like any time anyone says anything negative they are automatically a troll, bloodreqiuem isnt being a troll, hes being ignorant, huge differanceDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. Exactly. No one seems to know the meaning of the word any more. |
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BloodRequiem said: 1. Companies only dub shows they think will sell and even then they come out around a year later than when the show actually aired. 2. There's no soul and passion in dubs. It sounds like the voice actors are doing it just to get their paycheck. 3. Japanese voice actors are better trained in general. 4. Dialogue localized. Meanings of expressions/jokes are lost. 5. Same 5 voice actors for a million characters. I agree, but there are very rare exceptions. I personally ONLY want to watch a dub if it is agreed upon by the vast majority as being better. While Durarara!! dub might be good, I'm still leaning towards the sub. After watching Welcome to the NHK in sub, I decided to try out the dub... it wasn't for me. |
BloodRequiem said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Tavor said: can we please stop using the word troll already, its like any time anyone says anything negative they are automatically a troll, bloodreqiuem isnt being a troll, hes being ignorant, huge differanceDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. 1. Companies only dub shows they think will sell and even then they come out around a year later than when the show actually aired. 2. There's no soul and passion in dubs. It sounds like the voice actors are doing it just to get their paycheck. 3. Japanese voice actors are better trained in general. 4. Dialogue localized. Meanings of expressions/jokes are lost. 5. Same 5 voice actors for a million characters. Absolutely wrong on all accounts. |
IcecreamManwich said: BloodRequiem said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Tavor said: can we please stop using the word troll already, its like any time anyone says anything negative they are automatically a troll, bloodreqiuem isnt being a troll, hes being ignorant, huge differanceDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. 1. Companies only dub shows they think will sell and even then they come out around a year later than when the show actually aired. 2. There's no soul and passion in dubs. It sounds like the voice actors are doing it just to get their paycheck. 3. Japanese voice actors are better trained in general. 4. Dialogue localized. Meanings of expressions/jokes are lost. 5. Same 5 voice actors for a million characters. Absolutely wrong on all accounts. I've provided my reasons. Maybe say why you think I'm wrong? |
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IcecreamManwich said: I know at least number 4 is not wrong.BloodRequiem said: 1. Companies only dub shows they think will sell and even then they come out around a year later than when the show actually aired. 2. There's no soul and passion in dubs. It sounds like the voice actors are doing it just to get their paycheck. 3. Japanese voice actors are better trained in general. 4. Dialogue localized. Meanings of expressions/jokes are lost. 5. Same 5 voice actors for a million characters. Absolutely wrong on all accounts. |
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BloodRequiem said: your wrong cause your generalizing, doesnt matter if you give your reasons, your still doing a very un-credible thing, i can say all TV shows from the 90's suck and no matter how many reason i could give it'd still be wrong cause it'd be generalizing.IcecreamManwich said: BloodRequiem said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Tavor said: can we please stop using the word troll already, its like any time anyone says anything negative they are automatically a troll, bloodreqiuem isnt being a troll, hes being ignorant, huge differanceDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. 1. Companies only dub shows they think will sell and even then they come out around a year later than when the show actually aired. 2. There's no soul and passion in dubs. It sounds like the voice actors are doing it just to get their paycheck. 3. Japanese voice actors are better trained in general. 4. Dialogue localized. Meanings of expressions/jokes are lost. 5. Same 5 voice actors for a million characters. Absolutely wrong on all accounts. I've provided my reasons. Maybe say why you think I'm wrong? also i must say, the part about them doing it for money is dumb as hell, like no shit they are doing it for a paycheck, its called a job for a reason, If anything english VA's are more in for it for the fun and enjoyment of it since a majority of them do it as a side thing as apposed to many jap VA's that mainly do it as a full career, they arent sell outs like your trying percieve them, they are people making a living doing something they enjoy. Yah some english VA's make a living off of things but not much plus you seem to forget pretty much all english anime VA's are not people who only add their voice talent to anime but rather all VA's, video games, commercials, anime, animations in the west, and such and such, saying theres no soul in them is the same as saying there is not soul in all VA acting of the English language, You only further proved what i said, your not a troll but rather a ignorant bystander |
JizzyHitlerNov 24, 2012 3:15 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: your wrong cause your generalizing, doesnt matter if you give your reasons, your still doing a very un-credible thing, i can say all TV shows from the 90's suck and no matter how many reason i could give it'd still be wrong cause your generalizingIcecreamManwich said: BloodRequiem said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Tavor said: can we please stop using the word troll already, its like any time anyone says anything negative they are automatically a troll, bloodreqiuem isnt being a troll, hes being ignorant, huge differanceDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: BloodRequiem said: god damn im starting tp think you people cant readDubs are shit and that's a fact. Except for Baccano where it's actually better to watch it dubbed... Obvious troll is obvious. 1. Companies only dub shows they think will sell and even then they come out around a year later than when the show actually aired. 2. There's no soul and passion in dubs. It sounds like the voice actors are doing it just to get their paycheck. 3. Japanese voice actors are better trained in general. 4. Dialogue localized. Meanings of expressions/jokes are lost. 5. Same 5 voice actors for a million characters. Absolutely wrong on all accounts. I've provided my reasons. Maybe say why you think I'm wrong? Except I did provide exceptions: Baccano. And #1,4 and 5 are definitely not generalizations |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| ....Anyway, as I mentioned before, this is not a sub vs dub thread. |
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