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Oct 21, 2012 6:34 AM
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Zekken said:
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Kirito > Sinon > Suguha > Silica > Asuna > Liz > Aids


not funny at all man T_T hope you die


It's okay, I was sad, too. ;_;
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Miracles really do happen in VMMORPGS. Fuck magic, Fuck the supernatural, Technology brings forth miracles.

Yui? Its was already BS that you were saved as a item, so why were you the only one left in Kirito-kuns storage.

Kirito-kun was such a badass! He saw he was still HAX and used it to increase his false harem. Brilliant maneuver.

I really wish that incest bitch chocked to death. Many died in SAO so why not her as well. Damn it!

Where's Ms.loli? I miss her. She's best character in this series. So much depth.

Yes. Those people randomly flew up as group and got a picture of Asuna-chan.
That amazing NRT-Dude should have "leaked" that info to Kirito-kun seeing as he is a jack ass. BTW, I really hope he kills someone soon.

Previously speaking of that incest bitch, if she joins this "inserts random name" Online game, I'm jumping down a bridge.

PLOTHOLES

Plothole #1: THE HAX.

It was just said at the beginning of the episode that all skills and levels don't exist in the game. Everything depends on the individual.
"There is no leveling"
"The skills improve through repetition, and the fighting is defendant on a players physical capabilities"

Plothole #2: CHARACTER APPEARANCE

It was said that his appearance would be generated randomly. And by appearance, it was physical appearance. Kirito-kun looked exactly the same as he does IRL. (Retarded Ears not included)

Plothole #3: LIKE SOA BUT WITH MAGIC NOT SWORD SKILLS

That new green girl had a sword.
Those villains had spears, or whatever you call those.
Kirito-kun obviously only used a sword to "kill" those guys.


1/5 - Final line: "Who's next" *orgasm*
Oct 21, 2012 7:03 AM

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O_o its ridiculous how hard people try just to hate an anime....
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PLOTHOLES



Oh look another plot hole screaming fool

1)The Skilling in ALO is similar to Elder Scrolls oblivion. And since ALO is a "basic copy", Kirito has mastered most of it with his SAO status. the psychical dependent here's means that your fighting skills are based on how good you can fight in real life, + stats of your character.

2) Kirito's image data from SAO got merge with his ALO data. remember the scene where his 2 avatars got merged? Lyfa never played SAO.

3. Swords are just weapons, there are no sword skills. But that doesn't mean you can't kill a guy with weapons and brute strength .

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PLOTHOLES



Oh look another plot hole screaming fool

1)The Skilling in ALO is similar to Elder Scrolls oblivion. And since ALO is a "basic copy", Kirito has mastered most of it with his SAO status. so there's no plot hole

2) Kirito's image data from SAO got merge with his ALO data. remember the scene where his 2 avatars got merged? Lyfa never played SAO.

3. Swords are just weapons, there are no sword skills. But that doesn't mean you can't kill a guy with weapons and brute strength .

WHY are you even replying to someone that does that deliberately.I know I am not one to talk after Dessiato but come on.....
Oct 21, 2012 7:12 AM

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kaimax said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:

PLOTHOLES



Oh look another plot hole screaming fool

1)The Skilling in ALO is similar to Elder Scrolls oblivion. And since ALO is a "basic copy", Kirito has mastered most of it with his SAO status. the psychical dependent here's means that your fighting skills are based on how good you can fight in real life, + stats of your character.

2) Kirito's image data from SAO got merge with his ALO data. remember the scene where his 2 avatars got merged? Lyfa never played SAO.

3. Swords are just weapons, there are no sword skills. But that doesn't mean you can't kill a guy with weapons and brute strength .


but then why would you even bother trying to talk sense to a blind hater? he looks ridiculous but your lowering yourself to his level just by replying to him....
Oct 21, 2012 7:28 AM
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Miracles really do happen in VMMORPGS. Fuck magic, Fuck the supernatural, Technology brings forth miracles.

Yui? Its was already BS that you were saved as a item, so why were you the only one left in Kirito-kuns storage.

Kirito-kun was such a badass! He saw he was still HAX and used it to increase his false harem. Brilliant maneuver.

I really wish that incest bitch chocked to death. Many died in SAO so why not her as well. Damn it!

Where's Ms.loli? I miss her. She's best character in this series. So much depth.

Yes. Those people randomly flew up as group and got a picture of Asuna-chan.
That amazing NRT-Dude should have "leaked" that info to Kirito-kun seeing as he is a jack ass. BTW, I really hope he kills someone soon.

Previously speaking of that incest bitch, if she joins this "inserts random name" Online game, I'm jumping down a bridge.

PLOTHOLES

Plothole #1: THE HAX.

It was just said at the beginning of the episode that all skills and levels don't exist in the game. Everything depends on the individual.
"There is no leveling"
"The skills improve through repetition, and the fighting is defendant on a players physical capabilities"

Plothole #2: CHARACTER APPEARANCE

It was said that his appearance would be generated randomly. And by appearance, it was physical appearance. Kirito-kun looked exactly the same as he does IRL. (Retarded Ears not included)

Plothole #3: LIKE SOA BUT WITH MAGIC NOT SWORD SKILLS

That new green girl had a sword.
Those villains had spears, or whatever you call those.
Kirito-kun obviously only used a sword to "kill" those guys.


1/5 - Final line: "Who's next" *orgasm*


2/10 just because I nearly choked at "Plothole # 3".
Thank you.
Oct 21, 2012 7:29 AM
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kaimax said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:

PLOTHOLES



Oh look another plot hole screaming fool

1)The Skilling in ALO is similar to Elder Scrolls oblivion. And since ALO is a "basic copy", Kirito has mastered most of it with his SAO status. the psychical dependent here's means that your fighting skills are based on how good you can fight in real life, + stats of your character.

2) Kirito's image data from SAO got merge with his ALO data. remember the scene where his 2 avatars got merged? Lyfa never played SAO.

3. Swords are just weapons, there are no sword skills. But that doesn't mean you can't kill a guy with weapons and brute strength .

Stats aren't suppose to exist as levels don't exist.
and I know his fighting skills increased IRL because of SAO, but that in itself is BS.

There was no merging. Only overwriting. But that doesn't make sense in a technological aspect. No matter what, even for a basic a game whether related or where certain data is identical, it has to be 100 % identical for it to work. A complex game such as a VMMORPG should be even more complex.

Okay. The I was mistaken about the sword skills. I see now how it works. The weapons are like magical items that creates magic and causes certain effects but melee attacks are still possible.
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I didn't even understand the 3rd plot-hole suggested there but I'm guessing you believe ALO is only suppose to be magic...?

3. ALO doesn't have sword skills like Kirito's Star Stream Burst, instead all 'attacks' are just swings or attacks which the user knows them selves, say they do kendo, then they can use that knowledge of kendo in this game. It was also mentioned that the better the athlete, the better you are in this game. The game isn't limited to magic only.

Even SAO is called Sword Art Online, doesn't mean there were only swords.
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I was too hasty in rating the episode. I should have waited.

I actually wanted to call it "potential plotholes" and wait for a explanations.

I'll do that next weak and hold my vote.

I also do understand about the skills and weapons now.
That's also explains why Kirito-kun didn't have his dual wield anymore, as it was in fact a skill.
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Stats dont exist but several skills do.They dont just randomly learn their skills.ALO took what skills Kirito had from SAO that matched with similar skills in its system>as you saw Dual Blades isnt among the skills Kirito has now.To LN readers


His skills didnt increase IRL. Suguha was surprised and went easy on someone that was in coma 2 months ago

RCT barely did any changes to the system as you saw/explained by Yui.
Oct 21, 2012 7:44 AM

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Too much flaming in this thread.

I liked this episode, better than the opener. The animation was really standout, really beautiful. Yui was super cute, Kirito is back to doing what he does best, saving girls like a boss in his usual kinda lame but sweet way. ALO is looking up, although I still far prefer the premise of the first and third arc to this one.
Oct 21, 2012 7:46 AM

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hugh...fairies...
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I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.
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I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.

And Suguha chocking...totally necessary scene....
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ssjokg said:
Stats dont exist but several skills do.They dont just randomly learn their skills.ALO took what skills Kirito had from SAO that matched with similar skills in its system>as you saw Dual Blades isnt among the skills Kirito has now.To LN readers


His skills didnt increase IRL. Suguha was surprised and went easy on someone that was in coma 2 months ago

RCT barely did any changes to the system as you saw/explained by Yui.


But there were still changes done. I won't buy any explanation concerning that point. If it were a carbon copy, 100% and Kirito-kun he had every single thing from SAO, there would be no issues.
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
ssjokg said:
Stats dont exist but several skills do.They dont just randomly learn their skills.ALO took what skills Kirito had from SAO that matched with similar skills in its system>as you saw Dual Blades isnt among the skills Kirito has now.To LN readers


His skills didnt increase IRL. Suguha was surprised and went easy on someone that was in coma 2 months ago

RCT barely did any changes to the system as you saw/explained by Yui.


But there were still changes done. I won't buy any explanation concerning that point. If it were a carbon copy, 100% and Kirito-kun he had every single thing from SAO, there would be no issues.

ALO wasnt made to please the japanese.Sugou "created" this for his plan
.ALO is still something that runs on the system that Kayaba,the creator of SAO,made.And Kayaba
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:

But there were still changes done. I won't buy any explanation concerning that point. If it were a carbon copy, 100% and Kirito-kun he had every single thing from SAO, there would be no issues.


His character data was saved. Stats and skills that also exist in ALO were kept, his items and skills that don't exist in ALO (dual wield) were corrupted.

ssjokg said:
whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.

And Suguha chocking...totally necessary scene....


Yeah, would have really preferred less rushing SAO instead of all these unnecessary scenes.
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ssjokg said:
whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.

And Suguha chocking...totally necessary scene....


murder case did get a second episode though....but whatever, whats done is done, i honestly enjoyed that scene with Yui, it was very cute and she became even cuter when she turned into a pixie so im glad it wasn't rushed like previous episodes
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Zekken said:
ssjokg said:
whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.

And Suguha chocking...totally necessary scene....


murder case did get a second episode though....but whatever, whats done is done, i honestly enjoyed that scene with Yui, it was very cute and she became even cuter when she turned into a pixie so im glad it wasn't rushed like previous episodes


Right, felt like one because they cut pretty much everything.
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ssjokg said:
whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.

And Suguha chocking...totally necessary scene....


It was... DEM FEET!
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ssjokg said:
whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.

And Suguha chocking...totally necessary scene....


It was... DEM FEET!

While nice to watch,it really added nothing to the series
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Come in this thread after a nice sleep and see 2 pages of flaming and fighting. YESSSSSSSS!
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ssjokg said:
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ssjokg said:
Stats dont exist but several skills do.They dont just randomly learn their skills.ALO took what skills Kirito had from SAO that matched with similar skills in its system>as you saw Dual Blades isnt among the skills Kirito has now.To LN readers


His skills didnt increase IRL. Suguha was surprised and went easy on someone that was in coma 2 months ago

RCT barely did any changes to the system as you saw/explained by Yui.


But there were still changes done. I won't buy any explanation concerning that point. If it were a carbon copy, 100% and Kirito-kun he had every single thing from SAO, there would be no issues.

ALO wasnt made to please the japanese.Sugou "created" this for his plan
.ALO is still something that runs on the system that Kayaba,the creator of SAO,made.And Kayaba

If that is all true, the most logical choice the writer should have done was clean Kirito-kuns slate. No stats, no items, no skills.
But he wanted to keep Yui in the story, and that's why everything is in haywire right now.
Oct 21, 2012 8:13 AM
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Tyrel said:
Come in this thread after a nice sleep and see 2 pages of flaming and fighting. YESSSSSSSS!


Flaming and fighting? I just see a more or less polite discussion.
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whatever123456 said:
Tyrel said:
Come in this thread after a nice sleep and see 2 pages of flaming and fighting. YESSSSSSSS!


Flaming and fighting? I just see a more or less polite discussion.


In SAO threads it's never "Polite" discussion
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:


Plothole #2: CHARACTER APPEARANCE

It was said that his appearance would be generated randomly. And by appearance, it was physical appearance. Kirito-kun looked exactly the same as he does IRL. (Retarded Ears not included)



If character appearance was randomly generated for SAO players, Agil would have never been able to recognize Asuna.
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
ssjokg said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
ssjokg said:
Stats dont exist but several skills do.They dont just randomly learn their skills.ALO took what skills Kirito had from SAO that matched with similar skills in its system>as you saw Dual Blades isnt among the skills Kirito has now.To LN readers


His skills didnt increase IRL. Suguha was surprised and went easy on someone that was in coma 2 months ago

RCT barely did any changes to the system as you saw/explained by Yui.


But there were still changes done. I won't buy any explanation concerning that point. If it were a carbon copy, 100% and Kirito-kun he had every single thing from SAO, there would be no issues.

ALO wasnt made to please the japanese.Sugou "created" this for his plan
.ALO is still something that runs on the system that Kayaba,the creator of SAO,made.And Kayaba

If that is all true, the most logical choice the writer should have done was clean Kirito-kuns slate. No stats, no items, no skills.
But he wanted to keep Yui in the story, and that's why everything is in haywire right now.

I dont get WHY it would be the logical choice...Maybe you are thinking that since Kayaba said that everything was deleted(ep 14) that Kirito's data should have also been deleted.Which would be true if Kayaba was talking about the data which were saved inside the NerveGear but what Kayaba was talking about was the original servers of SAO.Also ALO was created/copied from SAO months before the end of SAO game thats why it still exists.
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on a side note, did anyone else laugh when they asked to state whether you are male or female???

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Hey every game has to have a tutorial nice seeing him learn the basics.....so basically his stuff like items carried over like a new game +
The only problem I have is even though the game is based on skill you can see there are obvious stats and armor or else it wouldn't be an rpg
I feel kirito is stupidly overpowered just jumping into the game and killing players who've played longer than him the game has a different battle system so why is he overpowered ?? Its like a first time tekken player beating a championship winner it would never happen. Even rpg's are like that. Smh that's my only gripe but at least this arc seems better plus less romance.....thank you

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whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.


Murder case in the area did have a 2nd ep
and why was that story important anyway?
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ShiroX said:
whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.


Murder case in the area did have a 2nd ep
and why was that story important anyway?


OK.Many kept complaining about how SAO didnt show any interactions between players except for Asuna and Kirito and in the one ep that does exactly what people were asking you say that?
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Hey every game has to have a tutorial nice seeing him learn the basics.....so basically his stuff like items carried over like a new game +
The only problem I have is even though the game is based on skill you can see there are obvious stats and armor or else it wouldn't be an rpg
I feel kirito is stupidly overpowered just jumping into the game and killing players who've played longer than him the game has a different battle system so why is he overpowered ?? Its like a first time tekken player beating a championship winner it would never happen. Even rpg's are like that. Smh that's my only gripe but at least this arc seems better plus less romance.....thank you

Liked the little wii controller for flying


but you have to keep in mind that ALO was taken from SAO and technically kirito has been playing in SAO 24/7 for 2 years straight as one of the best players, in terms of experience in MMO's he loses to no one......well until a certain "sleeping knight" comes along but thats much later <_<
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ShiroX said:
whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.


Murder case in the area did have a 2nd ep
and why was that story important anyway?


it helps explain things in season 3, that is, if their making one
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Plothole #2: CHARACTER APPEARANCE

It was said that his appearance would be generated randomly. And by appearance, it was physical appearance. Kirito-kun looked exactly the same as he does IRL. (Retarded Ears not included)



If character appearance was randomly generated for SAO players, Agil would have never been able to recognize Asuna.


Asuna
ShiroX said:
whatever123456 said:
I just wished they would have given Aria or Murder case in the area a second episode, instead of dragging out ALO episodes. The scene with Yui could have really been shortened.


Murder case in the area did have a 2nd ep
and why was that story important anyway?


Including the meal with Heathcliff would have been funny and they could have made Grimlock seem less ridicolous by showing that he actually denied the murder instead of having him break down without any pressure whatsoever.
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Zekken said:
Amon-Raw said:
Hey every game has to have a tutorial nice seeing him learn the basics.....so basically his stuff like items carried over like a new game +
The only problem I have is even though the game is based on skill you can see there are obvious stats and armor or else it wouldn't be an rpg
I feel kirito is stupidly overpowered just jumping into the game and killing players who've played longer than him the game has a different battle system so why is he overpowered ?? Its like a first time tekken player beating a championship winner it would never happen. Even rpg's are like that. Smh that's my only gripe but at least this arc seems better plus less romance.....thank you

Liked the little wii controller for flying


but you have to keep in mind that ALO was taken from SAO and technically kirito has been playing in SAO 24/7 for 2 years straight as one of the best players, in terms of experience in MMO's he loses to no one......well until a certain "sleeping knight" comes along but thats much later <_<


T_T...when you figure out what the name of the guild meant...damn it T_T
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whatever123456 said:
SetsukoHara said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:


Plothole #2: CHARACTER APPEARANCE

It was said that his appearance would be generated randomly. And by appearance, it was physical appearance. Kirito-kun looked exactly the same as he does IRL. (Retarded Ears not included)



If character appearance was randomly generated for SAO players, Agil would have never been able to recognize Asuna.


Asuna


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Hallelujah Mountains in Sword Art Online? Those floating mountains, was that a reference to James Cameron's Avatar?



And also, when they say "random appearance" I think they mean "random outfit", not physical aspects.
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Hallelujah Mountains in Sword Art Online? Those floating mountains, was that a reference to James Cameron's Avatar?


And also, when they say "random appearance" I think they mean "random outfit", not physical aspects.


Physical appearance is random but you can change it by paying money.
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They didn't mention money in the episode.

(also, @whatever123456 could you edit that show spoiler out? I screw that up. thanks i.a.)
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The thing i didn't catch from the episode is what happens when the player dies in ALO? Can anyone shed some light on this please?
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The thing i didn't catch from the episode is what happens when the player dies in ALO? Can anyone shed some light on this please?

loss of skill exp, items,gold

LN readers...Wasnt ALO supposed to use your real gender?Why did Kirito have to choose it?
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ssjokg said:
Avestus said:
The thing i didn't catch from the episode is what happens when the player dies in ALO? Can anyone shed some light on this please?

loss of skill exp, items,gold

You mean losing them completely or just partially?
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Avestus said:
ssjokg said:
Avestus said:
The thing i didn't catch from the episode is what happens when the player dies in ALO? Can anyone shed some light on this please?

loss of skill exp, items,gold

You mean losing them completely or just partially?

Exp was partially for sure.Items I dont remember if it was the ones equipped or not.
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Meh, watchable, but it hardly deserves all that hype
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Too lazy to search in 20 pages of posts, so can anyone explain to me,

Is the company managing ALfheim Online isn't being professional? I mean, if having "??????" items and high parameters remaining from SAO is actually illegal and maybe ban-able, why haven't they fix it? They surely would expect some SAO survivors to play ALfheim, and surely Kirito isn't the first SAO player to play ALfheim. So why aren't there any anticipations about this bug? The game isn't even in close beta phase.

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Too lazy to search in 20 pages of posts, so can anyone explain to me,

Is the company managing ALfheim Online isn't being professional? I mean, if having "??????" items and high parameters remaining from SAO is actually illegal and maybe ban-able, why haven't they fix it? They surely would expect some SAO survivors to play ALfheim, and surely Kirito isn't the first SAO player to play ALfheim. So why aren't there any anticipations about this bug? The game isn't even in close beta phase.

because it wasnt made for the Japanese people to play.More will be explained in the next eps
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ssjokg said:

Exp was partially for sure.Items I dont remember if it was the ones equipped or not.

Thanks for the answer.
Too bad. SAO was quite attractive because of it's harshness. Something like "Lord of flies" in greater scale. And that was the reason why the situations there and all the talks about the reality of virutal experience and so on had a certain beauty to them.
Well, hope they'll make up for the loss of this feature with some other things.

P.S. Oh, and i do understand that in terms of storyline it's an obvious state of affairs. It could be hard to explain the existence of another one "harsh" mmorpg just after the collapse of the previous one. But it's still too bad :(
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that was much better than previous eps but those elf ears an fairy wings look lame :/
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Avestus said:
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Exp was partially for sure.Items I dont remember if it was the ones equipped or not.

Thanks for the answer.
Too bad. SAO was quite attractive because of it's harshness. Something like "Lord of flies" in greater scale. And that was the reason why the situations there and all the talks about the reality of virutal experience and so on had a certain beauty to them.
Well, hope they'll make up for the loss of this feature with some other things.


They lose around of a third of their player worth, but it doesn't become a factor or motivator for any reason, so don't worry about it.
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