Anime_Name said: sleeplesstown said: I DON'T PILOT A GIANT ROBOT THEREFORE I CANNOT WATCH MECHA ANIME snip I'm not looking for answers to support my "conclusion" (when I created the topic, I had no such thing), that's where you're misunderstanding. It was simply an observation. It wasn't until "NOW" that I've created a theory based on all the responses I've gotten so far and I will elaborate on that later, I'm sure people will find it pretty interesting. The answer was pretty much right in my face, I just needed more data, which everyone successfully helped in making. |
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| I love, well, love and romance, especially in fiction. I always have. I'm just a hopeless romantic. Thus, romance anime are some of the best options for appeasing my hunger for a good love story. I don't believe it has anything to do with my being single. I'm not particularly lonely, either, not by any standard. Though I certainly would like some romantic companionship in my life, I don't think my love for things like romance anime stems from that all. But damn it, now I feel insecure for not being able to pilot a mecha. |
| Here's a theory supported by many responses in this topic, of why someone might or might feel a certain way towards ______. The best way I can explain this is by categorizing it into a person's views, experiences, state of mind, and confidence level. These are the MAIN factors. The answer was so simple, but it took me awhile to come to a conclusion. 1. I'll start with views. Depending on the individual's viewpoint on the anime, movie, or whatever it may be, the way they're affected by it is completely different than another (obviously). An anime will have a more profound effect on the person who takes it seriously, maybe literally, or relates it to life on a certain level. And this isn't weird in any shape or form. Many animes are inspired by real life and you can sort of see some sort of resemblance. Although sometimes exaggerated, many animes are so realistic that you may even see yourself being depicted. (I'm not saying all animes are like this) Examples of highly realistic anime(s): Graveyard of the Fireflies, Tokyo Magnitude, etc. On the other hand, people who take anime lightly or not as seriously as others won't be affected by the story as much (or at all). An anime or movie will obviously have far less of an impact on someone who just watches it for shits and giggles or a person who finds them highly unrealistic. The impression or level of appeal an anime has on an individual all depends on how he/she views it. 2. Experiences. This is another important factor that affects a person. Someone who is single and has never experienced dating, cannot relate to someone who has. If your only way of experiencing romance is through media, animes, or books than obviously you have a very tainted, unrealistic, and exaggerated view on it. In reality, simply understanding what's good or bad in a relationship is not enough, that's just the basics.You'll probably think to yourself "wow, that seems nice" and subconsciously yearn for something similar. People in relationships obviously have far more experience so they can differentiate reality from fiction MUCH better. But again, depending on how they view anime they may still have a "love/hate" relationship with it. Why? InfiniteRyvius decribes it perfectly: Another example: Say there was someone in a relationship, and he/she watched romance animes, and became acutely aware that their relationship was nothing like what was portrayed, and that their relationship just lacked any... romance (there, I said it), thus they might dislike watching romance animes because it painfully reminds them of the fact that their relationship doesn't have much love, or match up to expectations. (This situation wouldn't arise if he took the anime lightly though) Or let's say you're single, you take anime seriously, and you've been dumped numerous times. You're jealous or envious that a character is surrounded by girls all the time. Let's also assume this anime is pretty realistic despite you not experiencing a similar situation yourself. The protagonist is a handsome individual that's assertive and charismatic, girls flock around him because of these qualities. This also happens in real life. I'm going to use School Days as an example. Many people despise this anime because of the theme, the main character, and the realism. There are a bunch of people out there who say "this can never happen," but I'd beg to differ. It has happened and it can happen. I actually know people in real life who bear a striking resemblance to the character. He always had girls around him and never knew why until he was told it was his looks. We were young at the time and exceedingly naive and dense. Which is pretty inverse for girls because they tend to be more intuitive earlier than the opposite sex. The majority of girls in that age group always seemed to make the first move. My friend cheated on a bunch of girls and although the guy is alive, he should consider himself lucky. There are a lot of cases out there where a jealous girlfriend/wife kill their boyfriend/husband for cheating on them. Here's another factor, it's a sub-category for experiences, circumstances. You've been hospitalized your whole life or at a very young age and have never experienced the outside world. You watch anime as vehicle of escape from the real world. Although you're relatively confident and handsome, years of your life are being wasted on a bed for whatever reason and you're envious of these real OR fictional characters for having something you do not. You're almost 21 and you're feeling jealous because you've never had a boyfriend/girlfriend because of your condition. All in all, you wish you had a normal life, but life slaps you in the face time and time again and says "tough luck buddy." Another relatively good example: You went to war single and came back without arms, most your face burned off, and post traumatic stress disorder. I think you see where I'm going with this. Fictional or not, the reason this person might be watching anime is to escape. He's watching two people make out and experiencing love and he's reminded of the harsh reality of his situation, he will probably never have a girlfriend. Yes, (most) people are shallow. 3. State of mind and confidence level kind of go hand in hand in this situation. Are you a confident and optimistic individual that truly believes that you will one day find someone out there who loves you? Or are you a person who is lacking in confidence, is deeply pessimistic, and is insecure? Do you feel you'll be "forever alone?" If you're the latter, chances are you might feel emotions such as: jealousy, envy, hate, anger, and loneliness assuming you take realistic romance animes seriously. Why? It's not so odd to feel these emotions if you've resigned to the fact that you'll never be in a relationship or find that special someone. These emotions are a reminder that we are human. Let's say someone ridiculously ugly watches an anime that shows two characters falling in love with each other. Why would he get jealous of the main character? They're not real, he must be an idiot. Obviously its because they're depicting something he'll probably never ever have or experience. This is a hard fact to accept. Some people out there might be alone forever. There are lots of fish in the sea, but who says you'll catch any? I can keep elaborating on this, but you get the point. A romance anime doesn't even have to be so realistic for a person to develop these feelings. Will these emotions stop the person from watching it, liking it, or even loving it? Maybe, but probably not. Just because you're feeling this way doesn't mean you won't watch it. This is where the "love/hate" relationship comes into place. Someone who is really confident and optimistic on the other hand will most likely not feel any of these emotions, or to a far lesser degree. I'll be more specific: a single guy/girl who looks relatively good, feels good, and has some sort of charm be will be far less affected then the guy/girl who doesn't have any of these qualities (again assuming if they take what they're watching seriously). Do I have to explain why? Disregarding preferences, this is the conclusion I have arrived at for the topic that is being discussed. |
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miereneronaile said: To be totally honest, I watch romance animes largely because I can use it to escape reality. The above post was rather interesting to read, btw, though I didnt feel any of it was surprising its still interesting. I'm still refining this theory, but I'm glad you found it interesting. It's definitely not suppose to be surprising either, it's common sense, something that eluded me. |
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| I'd say great work up there friend:) As for me, guess my category would be: easily drawn into their world forgetting the reality sometimes:) yeah I need longer time for "decontamination" once it's over thus I'm often pausing anime for a break:) After watching Green Green years ago it actually made me realize that my current relationship back there was going down to zero after few years, fortunately she realized that too, so even after 3 years we still hang out together as friends for example. (she almost pissed herself laughing when I told her what made me into that decision lol) Anyway truth is that you can use anime also to alter your own life:P |
kain361Mar 14, 2012 5:41 PM
kain361 said: I'd say great work up there friend:) As for me, guess my category would be: easily drawn into their world forgetting the reality sometimes:) yeah I need longer time for "decontamination" once it's over thus I'm often pausing anime for a break:) After watching Green Green years ago it actually made me realize that my current relationship back there was going down to zero after few years, fortunately she realized that too, so even after 3 years we still hang out together as friends for example. (she almost pissed herself laughing when I told her what made me into that decision lol) Anyway truth is that you can use anime also to alter your own life:P lol thanks, although that very well may be, I don't think that's the love/hate relationship single people have with _____ I'm talking about. |
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| @Korotoko 1."views..." We could stop this topic right now because personal views is reasonable. The groups you describe, those who take stories seriously v those who take stories lightly, exist but lumping singles and couples into either category would be presumptuous. If you can accept that a single person can take romance stories seriously then all of your other points fall to pieces. 2. "experiences..." It would take a lot more for a person to not understand the basics behind a normal romantic relationship than not having experienced one firsthand. People gain experience and knowledge from learning, doing, and watching. Somewhere in a person's life they will see others in relationships, they will read about classical romances, the media will reinforce what is considered bad(cheating, forgetting anniversaries) and what is good(chocolates for your valentine, red roses, a diamond ring that costs two months salary) for romances. Understanding what is good or bad in a relationship makes it easy for a person to empathize with fictional romances, regardless of their level of personal experiences. 3."State of mind" As far as negative emotions go. A single person is no more likely to feel jealous over an idealistic fictional relationship than is a person in a unhealthy-bad relationship. You seem to assume that everyone in a relationship is satisfied with their partner and don't want to change anything but honestly the lengths that some stories go to depict the strength of a fiction relationship can be quite envious to even the happiest of couples in reality. I can't really say much on the idea that pretty people will enjoy anime more. That's too fucked up to even repeat. |
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Korotoko said: kain361 said: I'd say great work up there friend:) As for me, guess my category would be: easily drawn into their world forgetting the reality sometimes:) yeah I need longer time for "decontamination" once it's over thus I'm often pausing anime for a break:) After watching Green Green years ago it actually made me realize that my current relationship back there was going down to zero after few years, fortunately she realized that too, so even after 3 years we still hang out together as friends for example. (she almost pissed herself laughing when I told her what made me into that decision lol) Anyway truth is that you can use anime also to alter your own life:P lol thanks, although that very well may be, I don't think that's the love/hate relationship single people have with _____ I'm talking about. I know:) meaning I used to be envious a lot before, cause I'm not really good when it comes relationships...I tend to lose interest after sometime which I hate ofc, but them..hehe, Tomoya X Nagisa could never happen to me as I kinda miss something though I'm not sure what it is:P But in general I used to dislike romances until I found out that "I can be like them after all" :D To this day Romance and Slice of Life are my fav genres:) |
I can't really say much on the idea that pretty people will enjoy anime more. That's too fucked up to even repeat. Wow, you twisted my words around pretty hard didn't you? You said that, not me. I will pay you money to find a sentence that I say or even imply this and quote it. I'm only replying to this part of your response because you're entitled to your own opinion of my theory. Sure I find many of your points laughable, but I don't feel the need to respond to anything except this because you're saying something completely false about what I said. |
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| I did a little reductio ad absurdum but I feel it didn't misrepresent or twist what you were saying in this part: "Let's say someone ridiculously ugly watches an anime that depicts two characters falling in love with each other. Why would he get jealous of the main character? They're not real, he must be an idiot. Obviously its because they're depicting something he'll probably never ever have or experience. " |
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Anime_Name said: I did a little reductio ad absurdum but I feel it didn't misrepresent or twist what you were saying in this part: "Let's say someone ridiculously ugly watches an anime that depicts two characters falling in love with each other. Why would he get jealous of the main character? They're not real, he must be an idiot. Obviously its because they're depicting something he'll probably never ever have or experience. " And do you refute that statement? |
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Korotoko said: Anime_Name said: I did a little reductio ad absurdum but I feel it didn't misrepresent or twist what you were saying in this part: "Let's say someone ridiculously ugly watches an anime that depicts two characters falling in love with each other. Why would he get jealous of the main character? They're not real, he must be an idiot. Obviously its because they're depicting something he'll probably never ever have or experience. " And do you refute that statement? I do believe I called that statement too fucked up to comment on. I respneded to just about everything else from that post so talk about one of those 'cause I ain't touching that one. |
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Anime_Name said: Korotoko said: Anime_Name said: I did a little reductio ad absurdum but I feel it didn't misrepresent or twist what you were saying in this part: "Let's say someone ridiculously ugly watches an anime that depicts two characters falling in love with each other. Why would he get jealous of the main character? They're not real, he must be an idiot. Obviously its because they're depicting something he'll probably never ever have or experience. " And do you refute that statement? I do believe I called that statement too fucked up to comment on. Yeah, you said that to your own statement, not mine. Let's not get it twisted. But yeah, your version is indeed "too fucked up to even repeat." |
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Korotoko said: Yeah, you said that to your own statement, not mine. Let's not get it twisted. But yeah, your version is indeed "too fucked up to even repeat." Looks like you're trying to twist things up right now. |
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Anime_Name said: Korotoko said: Yeah, you said that to your own statement, not mine. Let's not get it twisted. But yeah, your version is indeed "too fucked up to even repeat." Looks like you're trying to twist things up right now. Not really. You said this: "I can't really say much on the idea that pretty people will enjoy anime more." Not me. |
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Korotoko said: Not really. You said this: "I can't really say much on the idea that pretty people will enjoy anime more." Not me. And I also said what it was, a paraphrasing of your comment to the absurd in order to show how ridiculous of a notion the original(your comment) was. This topic is going to spiral out of control if you can't understand how that device works. |
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Anime_Name said: Korotoko said: Not really. You said this: "I can't really say much on the idea that pretty people will enjoy anime more." Not me. And I also said what it was, a paraphrasing of your comment to the absurd in order to show how ridiculous of a notion the original(your comment) was. This topic is going to spiral out of control if you can't understand how that device works. You paraphrased my comment? Are you serious? Is this guy trolling me? You chopped it in pieces and said something entirely different. But you're right, this argument is pointless so I'm going to just ignore comments (you make) I deem not worth my time. |
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Korotoko said: And I also said what it was, a paraphrasing of your comment to the absurd in order to show how ridiculous of a notion the original(your comment) was. This topic is going to spiral out of control if you can't understand how that device works. You paraphrased my comment? Are you serious? Is this guy trolling me? You chopped it in pieces and said something entirely different. But you're right, this argument is pointless so I'm going to just ignore comments (you make) I deem not worth my time. I "paraphrased it to the absurd", the absurd part is crucial, rather than seriously addressing it as I did with the bulk of your post. Ignoring my posts over a single comment certainly is convenient for you. To say this again, you did not understand what he said at all, and interpreted it in a totally incorrect way to suit your own needs, Anime_Name. I am not saying I agree with Korotoko, but you misinterpreted that horribly. I understood what he was saying and found it so silly that the only way I could address it was with snark. |
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miereneronaile said: parΒ·aΒ·phrase/ΛparΙΛfrΔz/ Verb: Express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, esp. to achieve greater clarity. This is not what you did. Its not what you did in any way. All you have done is made what he said vastly more confusing by confusing what he said yourself. It might be how you interpreted it, but its obviously not what he meant. To clarify what I did was reductio ad absurdum. I only called it "paraphrasing to the absurd"(NOT just paraphrasing) to make it sound simpler. |
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Anime_Name said: miereneronaile said: parΒ·aΒ·phrase/ΛparΙΛfrΔz/ Verb: Express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, esp. to achieve greater clarity. This is not what you did. Its not what you did in any way. All you have done is made what he said vastly more confusing by confusing what he said yourself. It might be how you interpreted it, but its obviously not what he meant. To clarify what I did was reductio ad absurdum. I only called it "paraphrasing to the absurd"(NOT just paraphrasing) to make it sound simpler. Yeah... you didn't do that good of a job "reducto whateverum" then, unless its purpose is to completely change what the person says. |
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| It's normal for most girls to get into romance genre. And I'm one of them. Romance is one of my favorite genre but I'm single. Every time I watch them, sometimes I would wish it would happen to me in real life since I never had a boyfriend before. |
| I'm pretty neutral whenever I watch romance-y stuff, it's the same as watching a drama, watching a romance movie or reading a novel. Just because I'm not dating someone doesn't mean I can't enjoy the whole genre. |
| I actually love romance, tho i'd say i'm a very romantic and emotional guy and some scene often touch the right buttons for me. i am single tho and i've only ever had one girlfriend, often wish i had one now. i also try my picture myself in the spots i'm seeing with my future girlfriend, if realistic that is. |
Nabris said: I'm pretty neutral whenever I watch romance-y stuff, it's the same as watching a drama, watching a romance movie or reading a novel. Just because I'm not dating someone doesn't mean I can't enjoy the whole genre. pretty sure I've never said this or implied this. Again, if I did, I challenge you to find it and quote it. |
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| Romance is actually one of my favorite genres I find is amusing. And yes, this is coming from a girl who's single XD |
| i have had the same girlfriend for 3 years but i still love romance dramas... besides isn't it more dramatic if you know what it is the characters are fighting for? |
| Yeah, I was single for Valentines this year, you should have seen my romance anime collection for just the month of February... it was hideous. Nothing like a good Valentine's clannad crying session. |
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| Romance. I just don't understand it, I never been in a relationship, never been interested in someone, everybody I know is romantically involved and happy and it just...I don't know, I just don't get them . I mean I don't get why must my friend text her bf every day when they see eachother everyday while I live two hours away on the bus and we speak like once every two months. Wtf? That being said, I do agree with your theory Korotoko, it seems to make sense and clarified a bit of why I tend to avoid anything that goes heavy on the romance material, that is not to say that I avoid every single thing( I liked Kenshin for example) but yeah...I don't like it, give me something like Kimi ni Todoke and I'll rather gauge my eyes out than go through that show. |
| I enjoy romance to be honest. It's nice to see a main character who isn't afraid of a girl . |
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| I've watched and read alot of romance shojo based things and enjoy them even though its full of clichΓ©s. It's because I haven't had the experience of being in a relationship before is why Im interested in them. |
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| Uhh??? Not sure what kind of psychology you are looking for, lol. My consumption of romance-themed media has always been exactly the same, both while in and outside of relationships. I don't self-insert in media, so my own relationship status obviously has no influence on the fiction I enjoy. I just like the sweetness of two people in love π€·βοΈ |
| For me, I ain't fond of starting a relationship. I'm not bothered by most of the romance anime I've watched, except 1 or 2 with pervert and unbearable protagonists like School Days, and I just enjoy the genuine interactions between two people. Mostly is that "good for them" or "I would like to see how they solve the tension" feeling that drives me watching them. |
| I just really enjoy watching two different people connecting and building a genuine bond between them. And I also enjoy observing the quirks, flaws and chemistry between a couple that make them ticked and what makes them special. |
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Reed_of_PC said: Damn, I was a sobfest back in the old days. Been more than 10 years since I wrote this. Now that I've been in a relationship for 4+ years, I still don't watch romance not because its sad, but most of it are just unrealistic lol I feel like romance as a singular genre lacks enough material to be interesting, often shows force drama where there shouldn't be any. Tachii said: My cynic and pessimistic view: Romance anything is an ugly remainder of reality of how rare it is to find someone you legitimately likes and want to spend a long time with them. If it tries to be bittersweet, it will relate to how easily love is broken. If it tries to be sweet, it will relate to how bloody rare it is for chance events to start the whole thing in the first place. If it tries to be bitter, it's just a big mess of tears at the end of the day. Overall, I avoid romance like the plague unless there are other genres within the show that's more important. At the end of the day, no matter what the outcome is, it will often lead me to a pool of tears. Now I'm not saying crying is bad or anything, but it just sounds depressing if one were to actively engage in this genre when the end result is always the same. I am hedonistic by nature, not masochistic. :\ Finally a relatable comment. It was so disappointing seeing this interesting topic were full "Nah, I never feel that" comment. |
TachiiJun 4, 2022 6:37 PM
| Feels nice. It warms my heart to think that maybe someday I get to experience certain moments such as those. It can also make me relate to a lot of scenarios and feelings. I don't know... Love is something that everyone knows but no one undertands, so feeling it through media is rewarding for me. Shows that truly encapsulate and make me feel love are rare, but it's always nice to feel that warmth. |
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| i'm aromantic so i don't date but i still like romantic anime. i don't feel any sadness or something that i will never feel what the characters feel (at least, not anymore) just like i don't get sad i'll never be a selector watching wixoss |
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| What I feel is the same I would if I were watching a mother and a child, or a happy family eating together at a table, sometimes you need a refresher, experiencing too much of that emotional stillness and detachment doesn't make you strong and a tough guy like most people are led to believe, on the contrary you eventually lose the notion of human contact and why it is important, and that is nihilism by definition. In a way, humans always seek to identify these gestures, even unconciously, it's part of what constitutes our social conscience, works of fiction are meant to reinforce these patterns we need to recognize in a way, almost as it if were mental calisthenics, and for me it's a pleasant experience, even more so if it brings back fond memories of times past. I don't have my family around to share a meal together anymore, and I don't want to become one of those cold-hearted cynical individuals who look down upon the things they don't have because they feel they are above them, and romance in fiction is just the same, it's an endearing reminder of something that is necessary to remember, even if you don't get to see it or experience it personally, if at all. and I mean, who doesn't like a nice couple bantering and acting all coy around each other, just like the olden days of innocence from time to time? the fact I can find enjoyment in something like that is more than a good reason, and then again, watching romance with a significant other wouldn't make it much different either, it's the same base principle. |
| i am single and its nice, but really depends. a romance can be a masterpiece like i sold my life for 10000 yen per year, given. or trash like your lie in april, great concept but destroyed by the shitty execution. i like the genre overall tho |
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