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| I really like Shu and Souta scene.. Shu is really mature now. I just laughed when Souta pulled his hand repeatedly when Shu tried to shake hands with him hahaha. Overall a decent episode, can't wait for next ep. More action please >< |
Wasabi said: WELL! If we take into consideration the popularity and sales of the 2 Vols, it might be possible. I hear it is going well and in terms of some products, they outline Shu in the future with Inori so chances are there will be a season 2 with Shu and Inori being the sole characters from last season with perhaps some other ones. I don't see how they can't go for a second season here to deal with the whole Daath issue, unless they intend on leaving major plotholes and rush everything at once in two episodes... which is very likely. The whole Daath issue got me a little confused as to "how the heck?" did he even come in contact with Kuruso/Keido at all? He like popped out of nowhere. We need a flashback from his point of view of WTF did he go through to come to them suddenly. 4kicks said: WTF did you get that info from? According to the spoilerI'm quite happy that I will never EVER ever forget the following face of Mana,  while she is holding Kurosu's hand while he cries and Shu's mother is dead. What a fucked up face and creepy at that. |
Yumekichi11Mar 8, 2012 9:11 PM
Yumekichi11 said: I will never EVER ever forget the following face of Mana, while she is holding Kurosu's hand while he cries and Shu's mother is dead. What a fucked up face and creepy at that. For real; shows she was a psycho for a long long time :/ |
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Yumekichi11 said: I will never EVER ever forget the following face of Mana, while she is holding Kurosu's hand while he cries and Shu's mother is dead. What a fucked up face and creepy at that. Nightmares tonight. |
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| A couple of Quick thoughts. I enjoyed the Haruka/Shu scenes. While I enjoyed the stuff from episodes 7 & 8, her glomping him and running around half dressed. They really came across as a Mother and Son in this episode. Shu and Souta making up. I enjoyed that as well. Maybe it was a little forced, but it was in keeping with Shu's character and the maturity he's grown into these past couple of episodes. The Flashbacks. Finally we get some much needed backstory. It drew most of the loose threads and plots together and tried to make sense of them. The story now makes more sense then it did. Shu's Mom was hot. Kurosu, you lucky Dog, you. Haruka and Her. Have to wonder what her being so far advanced with the Virus, did to Shu, while he was in her womb. Anyone find it funny that Daath Boy, meets with Kurosu and Keido in the same place that Shu meets Inori for the first time? Mana, Ooooooh Booooy. We thought she was messed up in episode 12. Now we find out that Mana wanted Shu from before he was Born. (Shudders) Keido. What to say about him? Jealous, envious and other things. For all of his intelicual superiority, he falls short of Kurosu. Both professionally and personally. Kurosu had a wife, children and even remarried, to Haruka, all the while researching the Virus. And he makes the breakthrough before Keido. Again various elements are rushed and or not adequetely explained. But this was one of the best episodes of the series. Not for the Action, there is none, but for the development of the story. for the Long over due explainations and backstory. What do you think? |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
| Okay after watching the episode a couple times I think i'm starting to understand things a bit more. There are a few things I don't understand though, like since Yuu told Kurosu and Keido about how Mana will be the new Eve and how Shu will be her new Adam and how a Apocalypse will happen, why didn't Kurosu do anything to stop it? Did he not care or something? Was he all for the new race with his genes? Also what was Gai's goal then and what is Gai's goal now? He said it's always been the same but I don't quite get that since it was achieved in ep 12. I wonder what He and Mana are gonna do now that she's back. Is he the new Adam now? The whole Adam, Eve, fate of the "King", and void genome stuff is so confusing now. This episode answered some questions then made a billion new ones. Wait how did Shibungi get on the boat? |
Tomodachi5Mar 8, 2012 11:19 PM
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Yumekichi11 said: I will never EVER ever forget the following face of Mana, while she is holding Kurosu's hand while he cries and Shu's mother is dead. What a fucked up face and creepy at that. Incest rape face. |
Tomodachi5 said: Okay after watching the episode a couple times I think i'm starting to understand things a bit more. There are a few things I don't understand though, like since Yuu told Kurosu and Keido about how Mana will be the new Eve and how Shu will be her new Adam and how a Apocalypse will happen, why didn't Kurosu do anything to stop it? Did he not care or something? Was he all for the new race with his genes? Also what was Gai's goal then and what is Gai's goal now? He said it's always been the same but I don't quite get that since it was achieved in ep 12. I wonder what He and Mana are gonna do now that she's back. Is he the new Adam now? The whole Adam, Eve, fate of the "King", and void genome stuff is so confusing now. This episode answered some questions then made a billion new ones. Wait how did Shibungi get on the boat? Thats what I don't understand. If Gai was evil all along why did he let Shu kill him? Wouldn't it be easier for him on episode 12 of he just teamed up with Daath and Keido? He had plenty of chances to take Shu's void genome before his death. Shit, why am I even trying to make sense out of this sorry excuse for a plot.... |
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VioLink said: Tomodachi5 said: Okay after watching the episode a couple times I think i'm starting to understand things a bit more. There are a few things I don't understand though, like since Yuu told Kurosu and Keido about how Mana will be the new Eve and how Shu will be her new Adam and how a Apocalypse will happen, why didn't Kurosu do anything to stop it? Did he not care or something? Was he all for the new race with his genes? Also what was Gai's goal then and what is Gai's goal now? He said it's always been the same but I don't quite get that since it was achieved in ep 12. I wonder what He and Mana are gonna do now that she's back. Is he the new Adam now? The whole Adam, Eve, fate of the "King", and void genome stuff is so confusing now. This episode answered some questions then made a billion new ones. Wait how did Shibungi get on the boat? Thats what I don't understand. If Gai was evil all along why did he let Shu kill him? Wouldn't it be easier for him on episode 12 of he just teamed up with Daath and Keido? He had plenty of chances to take Shu's void genome before his death. Shit, why am I even trying to make sense out of this sorry excuse for a plot.... Haha I think the general idea of the show is awesome; a boy with the power to extract and materialize peoples "hearts" and use them as weapons to fight at the cost of their life if their "heart" breaks. Unfortunately yes the plot is indeed lacking and wish they would of taken another year or something to clean up this plot (or make a new one) Maybe Gai tried to stop Keido because he wanted to be "Adam." Or maybe the new clone Gai isn't actually how the real Gai is and he is actually being controlled somehow. Idk Gai was a mysterious character then and even more now. I don't see how they can wrap this up in two episodes. Either rush ending or second season. I would not mind a second season at all. Even though I pull out hairs trying to make sense of each episode, I always end up enjoying it. |
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bootyjon said: i now understand the funeral parlor etc. everything is according to the plan of keido,gai, yuu and the daath, they just used shu to collect the voids or shard of mana, i remember in episode 2 Gai said that the stolen void genome is for him to use but i doubt it because if Gai will inject that void genome to him theres a big possibility that the void genome will reject his genes. Shu was choosen to be the destined king(adam) even before he was born by mana or the virus who infected mana. but shu's father reject the proposal of daath so that they try to make a fake king to partner to mana by expermenting to those children including gai. but the daath and keido forgot something to be the true king is all about genes and only Shu has a genes of the true king, even segai notice it when he see the power of gai, the power of Gai is not right. the evidence of the chosen true king is the pillar of light that can break even the heaven that only manifested to Shu, in other words Gai and yuu is a fake and wanna be king only. Shu the True King Vs. Gai the wanna be King -Void power is Infinite | -Void Power Probably 1,800 -He Has the genes of true king | -Experimental king only, Fake King in the end i believe inori/mana will screw keido and gai, she has no choice but to choose the true king. This is one thought as well, that Mana would betray all of them and then do something to shake Shu's trust to try and convert him over to her. |
Tomodachi5 said: VioLink said: Tomodachi5 said: Okay after watching the episode a couple times I think i'm starting to understand things a bit more. There are a few things I don't understand though, like since Yuu told Kurosu and Keido about how Mana will be the new Eve and how Shu will be her new Adam and how a Apocalypse will happen, why didn't Kurosu do anything to stop it? Did he not care or something? Was he all for the new race with his genes? Also what was Gai's goal then and what is Gai's goal now? He said it's always been the same but I don't quite get that since it was achieved in ep 12. I wonder what He and Mana are gonna do now that she's back. Is he the new Adam now? The whole Adam, Eve, fate of the "King", and void genome stuff is so confusing now. This episode answered some questions then made a billion new ones. Wait how did Shibungi get on the boat? Thats what I don't understand. If Gai was evil all along why did he let Shu kill him? Wouldn't it be easier for him on episode 12 of he just teamed up with Daath and Keido? He had plenty of chances to take Shu's void genome before his death. Shit, why am I even trying to make sense out of this sorry excuse for a plot.... Haha I think the general idea of the show is awesome; a boy with the power to extract and materialize peoples "hearts" and use them as weapons to fight at the cost of their life if their "heart" breaks. Unfortunately yes the plot is indeed lacking and wish they would of taken another year or something to clean up this plot (or make a new one) Maybe Gai tried to stop Keido because he wanted to be "Adam." Or maybe the new clone Gai isn't actually how the real Gai is and he is actually being controlled somehow. Idk Gai was a mysterious character then and even more now. I don't see how they can wrap this up in two episodes. Either rush ending or second season. I would not mind a second season at all. Even though I pull out hairs trying to make sense of each episode, I always end up enjoying it. That could be a posibility. Gai tried to escape the place that held him captive. He succeeded too. |
Paul said: Yumekichi11 said: I will never EVER ever forget the following face of Mana, while she is holding Kurosu's hand while he cries and Shu's mother is dead. What a fucked up face and creepy at that. Incest rape face. Well, the original Adam and Eve were technically brother and sister. |
| The real question here is.. where the hell is Arisa? Her ass needs to be kicked. |
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| This episode screams ShuxSouta ending. |
| Dat ending card. Fanon to canon please! I thought that Daryl was looking a lot like Heine, mmm Miwa Shirow get in my life more. Maaan Kurosu was nice. The scene where Shu was born... aaaaawww. |
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Paul said: What really looks like a Incest rape face is the following,Yumekichi11 said: I will never EVER ever forget the following face of Mana,  while she is holding Kurosu's hand while he cries and Shu's mother is dead. What a fucked up face and creepy at that. Incest rape face.  The reason for that is in the spoiler OMG how the Fuck can she do the following in the spoiler There is more! Notice the kids in the spoiler Finally as much as Mana is crazy, I kind of wanted in the following,  Due to her appearance to like her due to her sexy pose but sorry after finding out the whole mother incident. Ideally I think the rock being from space could be a life form itself that reprogram the person to find a host that is compatible and make them reproduce with that host. Afterward host is most likely dead, fused together with original or at worst changed into something else to further produce offspring with the original. Scary shit? Very scary but that’s the thing the imagination is wild! Crazy!Cause it can be interpreted in too many ways with the vague flow of this series. What do you think of all this? |
| I liked all the info provided in this episode, but I wanted them to explain Inori too. Gai being a expiremental "Adam" for Mana, makes me wonder if he ever really cared for Japan, or wanted to help anyone...? |
| The urge to tear the heart of Mana and Souta into pieces is still there, yep. |
| So okay they tell us more what happened in the past, not bad though but I hope this last two episode will not be so dissapointing !! |
MyAmyMar 9, 2012 6:10 AM
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NovaTea said: I liked all the info provided in this episode, but I wanted them to explain Inori too. Gai being a expiremental "Adam" for Mana, makes me wonder if he ever really cared for Japan, or wanted to help anyone...? I'll go ahead and answer that for ya. NOPE |
| I got an ideal of who Yuu is working for. The Vatican? Or some Secret Super Power Organization PRO religious since he infers of them as Daath which is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%27at_(Kabbalah) pretty much. So all in all, what we had in all this season may well be a Theater of Operations from Daath being Japan itself or just plain a Test ground most appropriate to study the virus in its natural state. Assuming Japan being the most infected with it. So all in all, S2 can bring in light the real high ups behind this with Yuu and perhaps putting an end to them may reveal what is needed to know to stop all of this. Meh :/ thoughts going in brain. What do you think. |
| omg, for almost more than 10 episode.They finally reveal the "can opener" guy's name or maybe I miss out his name back then... I am not really understand that "wisdom can control the apocalypse" part . hmmm |
| That was actually a good and heavily information-filled episode that resolves some plot holes of the series. Interesting to say the least even though we're now definitely in presence of an Akira-like script with slight alien interferences (the comet and Daaht part is kinda disturbing and doesn't particularly serve the script, but well...). |
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| Only 2 more eps left. This is going to get really good. :D |
Xtc said: This is going to get really good. :D no way. there are still much twists... i think 2eps is not enough for explanation and that means that Guilty Crown failed... |
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| one thing that can save this series is second season |
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| ALL MY CREYS TO THIS EPISODE. |
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cassinos said: i'd love for there to be a second season, it would allow the anime to go in to so much more detail but even though i know it's ridiculous sometimes there something about GC that just makes me love it, anyways i thought this episode was pretty well written and i enjoyed the fact that details were given. 5/5 for this episode :) |
| I'm still half expecting something like this to go down. "Gai, you're seriously back and alive?!" "Nope! It's just Chuck Testa!" |
AhriMar 9, 2012 10:18 AM
| Things that I do not understand. Who is Inori and where did she come from???? Why did Gai form the undertakers if he just wanted to cause another end of the world??? WHY does Gai want to cause the end of the world when before he wanted to STOP Mana?????????????? |
Ahri said: I'm still half expecting something like this to go down. "Gai, you're seriously back and alive?!" "Nope! It's just Chuck Testa!" I am still hopeing that they would explain how they brought Gai back from LITERALLY nothing. |
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VioLink said: Ahri said: I'm still half expecting something like this to go down. "Gai, you're seriously back and alive?!" "Nope! It's just Chuck Testa!" I am still hopeing that they would explain how they brought Gai back from LITERALLY nothing. Considering how Mana is still 'there' too probably means neither never died to begin with. |
Paul said: VioLink said: Ahri said: I'm still half expecting something like this to go down. "Gai, you're seriously back and alive?!" "Nope! It's just Chuck Testa!" I am still hopeing that they would explain how they brought Gai back from LITERALLY nothing. Considering how Mana is still 'there' too probably means neither never died to begin with. But they disapeared into dust.... |
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Z-flame said: Paul said: VioLink said: Ahri said: I'm still half expecting something like this to go down. "Gai, you're seriously back and alive?!" "Nope! It's just Chuck Testa!" I am still hopeing that they would explain how they brought Gai back from LITERALLY nothing. Considering how Mana is still 'there' too probably means neither never died to begin with. It would probably be something like they were saved by entering a different dimension(like the one Shu entered before), probably thanks to Yuu. They didn't show Yuu activate his powers or anything. If I remember correctly Yuu knocked Keido out then walked away. This Yuu guy is still a complete mystery all we know is he wants to spread the virus and he has the power to teleport himself and has the kings power. Yuu needs his own OVA "The Melancoly of Yuu "Daath the gravekeeper"' |
VioLinkMar 9, 2012 11:40 AM
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| actually, Inori's origin is pretty obvious by now. She was most likely created by Keido as an Eve subject(the same way Gai was created as an "Adam" prototype) to serve as a new body from Mana since she pretty much fucked her last one much. Keido himself states this on Episode 12. And btw, Gai was "good" -his goal was still to be able to reach Mana tough- before dying possibly because he lost his memories after washing up in the beach. |
andreyueMar 9, 2012 11:57 AM
| I can't believe Shu forgave Souta especially after Hare died. Strong episode, but I didn't like the ending so 4/5. |
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VioLink said: <img src="http://i.imgur.com/KwPkj.jpg1" /> Oh god this made me lol. |
VioLink said: <img src="http://i.imgur.com/KwPkj.jpg1" /> FTW this is what I was thinking! |
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| So now the only major mystery is who the hell Daath/Yuu is. And how Gai got resurrected (if he did die) and consequently why the change of heart, why he can see what Voids people have, etc. Kurosu's diary on the Void Genome still doesn't make sense to me. Though I kinda stopped trying to make sense of this mess already. It's also pretty bad about the Mana bit where her parts were scattered to people's Voids and Shu just collected them, conveniently all/mostly in the high school students? And how exactly do you collect her "shards" anyway? Destroying them? Simply materializing them by Shu? |
TachiiMar 9, 2012 1:32 PM
Tachii said: So now the only major mystery is who the hell Daath/Yuu is. And how Gai got resurrected (if he did die) and consequently why the change of heart, why he can see what Voids people have, etc. Kurosu's diary on the Void Genome still doesn't make sense to me. Though I kinda stopped trying to make sense of this mess already. It's also pretty bad about the Mana bit where her parts were scattered to people's Voids and Shu just collected them, conveniently all/mostly in the high school students? : I'm not sure about a few of the questions but back in Ep 17 or w/e one Gai cut off Shu's arm, it shows Yu saying to a certain hidden someone "good job on collecting the fragments" and pulls out a hidden void. If you've noticed Gai's right eye the past episodes, it's 'different'. Robotic maybe? That's probably why he can see the voids. |
Tomodachi5 said: Okay after watching the episode a couple times I think i'm starting to understand things a bit more. There are a few things I don't understand though, like since Yuu told Kurosu and Keido about how Mana will be the new Eve and how Shu will be her new Adam and how a Apocalypse will happen, why didn't Kurosu do anything to stop it? Did he not care or something? Was he all for the new race with his genes? Also what was Gai's goal then and what is Gai's goal now? He said it's always been the same but I don't quite get that since it was achieved in ep 12. I wonder what He and Mana are gonna do now that she's back. Is he the new Adam now? The whole Adam, Eve, fate of the "King", and void genome stuff is so confusing now. This episode answered some questions then made a billion new ones. Wait how did Shibungi get on the boat? kurosu did care though, didn't you see him devoting himself to the research to stop the apocolyse virus, he forgot to eat and drink and never left his lab in order to find a way to stop the virus, and he succeeded he created the void genome which can supposedly isolate the virus, (still not too sure about it), he probably was gonna work more on it so that it can become a cure so that they could extract the virus from mana so she wouldn't be infected anymore and thus stopping the new Apocalypse but keido killed him before he could do it i liked what kurosu said about how wisdom and scientific knowledge can prevent the inevitable or "the hand of God" as keido would call it because the Apocalypse and the new adam and eve were seen as Gods Judgement and inevitable ugh im starting to become slightly confused myself i think ill watch the episode again and get a better idea of it and explain it a bit more |
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