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Nov 12, 2011 8:01 AM
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Fantastic episode that was well done. It showed quite well Saverenti's circumstances of her past. In that aspect GO Oonuma, Shin GO! With the following,

THAT’S IT! That is Shin! He did the same thing with Ef and now I am super super happy! My man and director did it again! This episode was tons better than last one! In fact just the fan service of Konoha x Yachi in the spoiler
was totally amazing. I was very satisfied by it. Totally happy with his work. Especially the Madoka style in the beginning concerning the telling of Saverenti in the spoiler
but more than any thing the drama at the end and the mechanism.


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The system went wild in Shiraho. Based on the schematics in the spoiler
it’s rather a complex set of circuits with a core that controls all the changes but also charges up until it activates itself. It’s rather fascinating when you think about it and see. Due to the complexity of it that is. The person who did this should be ashamed of himself but also proud of the complexity he achieved! Disappointed that Shiraho is a doll. You saw that body, can’t do anything to it. Totally a doll less I am missing the aspect transforming a object into human. It goes back to Hoppy, see I was right that some you cannot any ecchi too it. In fact I am disappointed now that I think back to the ecchi of Shiraho.

More over with Kirika in the spoiler
it does not work with me. I am supposed to feel bad? Euh, no not at all. She can heal herself so why should I feel anything but ouch! Really bad they did that with Kirika because if they never revealed it, it would be more impact. Maybe more later.

BTW Image Stitches are done in the spoiler
Savarenti, Konoha and Shiraho look good panoramically.

End art in the spoiler
is Fear nice. It shows her at her best positive side.


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Nov 12, 2011 8:42 AM
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Fan service w/ obnoxious sound effects + filler.

Second half was probably better than the first half, it probably even had a good story. However, watching this with Hadena subs is like inputting broken Japanese into Google translate into English then to Spanish then to French then back to English.

2/5
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Nov 12, 2011 8:44 AM
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Minori's character got fever instead. Haruaki looking after her, and her request is feeling of alive? (touching "heart", kind of), and almost becoming ecchi...

Fear is cheerful during shopping, and Haruaki is teaching her how to choose cabbages are nice. Haruaki's characteristic is so unique.

Class rep. wants to help!

So there's another person like the doll?

lol @ Fear's ohimesama dakko to Haruaki.

The real requester's daughter is the red hair girl and the red hair girl is the real cursed doll that can turn into boy, too? She/he cannot control his/her own power it seems.

Hmmmm... interesting. The two dolls falling in love?
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Nov 12, 2011 9:06 AM
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Konoha got sick, I loled at Yachi when he nosebled at the sight of her nice tits, the resulting blood automatically changed Konoha back into the Muramasa. Konoha being soothed to sleep by Yachi laying his hands between her tits is kinda hot.

Fear Shopping=cute

Kirika + Grim Restraint=GET OVER HERE!!!!

What an interesting relationship twist with Sevie and the male doll.


Nov 12, 2011 1:29 PM
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Highlight of the episode for me was when Fear got caught at the gate at the station, lol. It feels weird watching something serious unfolding and then a comedy moment is thrown in there. This show seems to make it work though.
Nov 12, 2011 4:12 PM
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Fear become even more Moe now and Kirika is a tsundere character :)

Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho

Nov 12, 2011 4:16 PM
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Fear become even more Moe now and Kirika is a tsundere character :)

Agreed.

I'm actually enjoying this show a little more than Shana
Nov 12, 2011 4:57 PM
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Fear = THE Moe character of the year. I kind of like her better than Shana now.

This anime is going by too quickly.. Episode 7 already :( 5 more episodes left!
I really wish they made this series into a 24 episode one.

Why do all the GOOD animes seem to be all 12-13 episodes long?!
Nov 12, 2011 7:36 PM
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I'm loving Kirika even though she barely had any screen time :]
Nov 12, 2011 7:36 PM

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Ok so the cursed object is the red hair girl/blue hair boy and the real person is the tall blue hair girl. I knew it was like that.

Nov 12, 2011 7:42 PM

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In light novel, when Konoha asked "who are you?"
Saverenti changed gender manually.
She massaged her breast, and they got bigger.
She said "I said massaging makes them bigger, right?"
She pushed them(?) into bra.
Then she grabbed her hair and pulled to make them longer...

In anime, she changed gender automatically.
Nov 12, 2011 8:32 PM

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These two episodes make me bored. Sovereignty isn't very interesting and the slow developments of the episodes.
Nov 12, 2011 8:35 PM
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This episode was okay, I guess, but I really noticed that I'm beginning to really not care at all about what it is that's going on in this show. The only things that managed to get my attention were the comedic scenes at the start, which were surprisingly chuckle-worthy. Not to mention, it would appear that Silver Link is now trying so hard to be like SHAFT that they're using imagery that I don't even understand what it is or why it's needed (such as the image with the inflating and deflating red dot).

All-in-all, just... whatever~
Nov 12, 2011 9:19 PM
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sex doll ROLF!!!!!
The people who make this is really a sadist.

thank god I quit this LN after vol1
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"Can dolls make mutual love?"
Nov 12, 2011 11:39 PM

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Jkunjp said:
"Can dolls make mutual love?"
Unless mouth to mouth or emotional transfer then NO! No genitals = no love less what I said first can be transfered.

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Nov 13, 2011 1:18 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
Jkunjp said:
"Can dolls make mutual love?"
Unless mouth to mouth or emotional transfer then NO! No genitals = no love less what I said first can be transfered.


there's always "toys"
Nov 13, 2011 1:45 AM

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SoFarGone said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Jkunjp said:
"Can dolls make mutual love?"
Unless mouth to mouth or emotional transfer then NO! No genitals = no love less what I said first can be transferred.


there's always "toys"
Yeah but for that they need to transfer their emotions of love through them. Perhaps certain of our fetishes might work on them but it remains to be seen further down the series.

For now I can't wait to see the resolve because that mechanism looks complex to undo.

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Nov 13, 2011 11:12 AM

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nice twist...


and, a mistake in this episode..
when they confront Sovereignty in Shiraho house, Fear call "Breaking by Wheel at francs" by 11th mechanism?? should it be 8th mechanism??? 11th mechanism is "The Teeth"
lol

*correct me if i'm wrong... @@
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SoFarGone said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Jkunjp said:
"Can dolls make mutual love?"
Unless mouth to mouth or emotional transfer then NO! No genitals = no love less what I said first can be transfered.


there's always "toys"


I guess not the kind of love that humans do,rather a kind of love exclusive for dolls.
Nov 13, 2011 12:28 PM
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The twist with Sovereignty actually being Shiraho and reverse caught me offguard. However, I'm glad former Shiraho turned out to be more than the generic additional fanservice character.
Also, I loved the scenes where they showed how Shiraho and Sovereignty met each other, the animation style looked quite unique with only their shape visible
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LOL at the station part. So there are two dolls in one body? And Kirika has tsundere traits! :D
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Nov 13, 2011 7:11 PM

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And Kirika has tsundere traits! :D


Yeah that's awesome. I really like Kirika. She's one of my favorites alongside Fear.
Nov 13, 2011 9:07 PM
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This episode made me LOL several times.

Actually, style a-la Madoka is very good for such a story.
Nov 13, 2011 9:13 PM

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Is it just me, or did this series get very boring as soon as this arc started? These new chars are just ridiculous.
Nov 14, 2011 12:38 AM

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So they are both dolls??I still don't really understand this.
Nov 14, 2011 6:11 AM

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So they are both dolls??I still don't really understand this.
Yeah they are both dolls but one has her mechanism wild the one that at the end Shiraho in question. The other doll was trying to help her. Savarenti that is.

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Nov 14, 2011 8:37 AM

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kinda lost this episode but I liked the comedy this episode lol
Nov 14, 2011 2:27 PM

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Cabbage master.
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hmm...konoha turning into a sword was funny...guess it just proves she un-fuckable
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Episode should have stopped with that button bursting.
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Cabbage master.


Pretty much just this. :")
The joke's on you wolf, the pigs are cannibals..~
Nov 14, 2011 8:52 PM
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ok then look they just threw a "curveball" at us with this twist?

really what is going & now two dolls & with one being both male-female transform sorta like ranma minus the water.

ok then now what next?
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Nov 14, 2011 10:42 PM

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Good episode Mune fanservice was pretty good.
Fear "The Cabbage Master" is soooooo MOEEEEEE!!!

I liked the twist that they are both dolls lets see what the next episode bring us.
Nov 15, 2011 9:27 AM

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lot of unnecessary scene IMHO
Nov 15, 2011 10:26 AM

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Didn't expected that, good episode.
Nov 15, 2011 12:16 PM

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Wow, what's with all the fan service even though she got knocked out and is lying in bed?

Anyway, that was actually a pretty nice back story on Sovereignty. Really curious how this is going to turn out.

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hudang said:


and, a mistake in this episode..
when they confront Sovereignty in Shiraho house, Fear call "Breaking by Wheel at francs" by 11th mechanism?? should it be 8th mechanism??? 11th mechanism is "The Teeth"


Yeah, it was definitely the 8th the first time she used it. Guess they got mixed up?
Although they've only used 7 so far, so it shouldn't be too hard to remember the number.


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Nov 15, 2011 9:39 PM

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Is Shiraho human or doll?

At the end of episode 7 in anime, Shiraho said "Would dolls fall in love with each other?"
in light novel, there are 3 more lines after that.
Those 3 lines will answer the question.
I am sure it will be shown in next episode (possibly in prologue part before opening)

but if you can't wait...
major spoiler : about Shiraho's past from light novel.
Nov 15, 2011 11:12 PM

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Definitely a good episode. It passed by really quickly.
And so basically she had sex with a man doll. Oh damn... that's... wtf?!
Nov 16, 2011 1:15 AM

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Is Shiraho human or doll?

At the end of episode 7 in anime, Shiraho said "Would dolls fall in love with each other?"
in light novel, there are 3 more lines after that.
Those 3 lines will answer the question.
I am sure it will be shown in next episode (possibly in prologue part before opening)

but if you can't wait...
major spoiler : about Shiraho's past from light novel.


woa. u just answered my question.. was wondering that for a while now..
really want to read the novel.. but i cant read japanese and the translation in baka-tsuki still at chapter 3 volume 1... sob..

so


Kesshi said:
hudang said:

and, a mistake in this episode..
when they confront Sovereignty in Shiraho house, Fear call "Breaking by Wheel at francs" by 11th mechanism?? should it be 8th mechanism??? 11th mechanism is "The Teeth"


Yeah, it was definitely the 8th the first time she used it. Guess they got mixed up?
Although they've only used 7 so far, so it shouldn't be too hard to remember the number.


yeah.. looks like this studio messed up a bit..
because, breaking by wheel at francs really should be 8th mechanism.
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I'm here to remind you Shirushi, the 2nd OP will be in next episode. Google for the full version because it's been released.


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Noname00 said:
Is Shiraho human or doll?

At the end of episode 7 in anime, Shiraho said "Would dolls fall in love with each other?"
in light novel, there are 3 more lines after that.
Those 3 lines will answer the question.
I am sure it will be shown in next episode (possibly in prologue part before opening)

but if you can't wait...
major spoiler : about Shiraho's past from light novel.
After reading your spoiler you can give to the father my warmest death wishes for being a stupid ignorant. Moreover it looks like the mother also did something nor right as in with whole acting thing.

So I was right? Shiraho became a doll due to that red core thing or red thing inside that person previously we saw?

The red core expands and turns you into a doll or just plain turns you into a doll?

At the very least we know the red core upon expanding too much and having no place to expand turns out the mechanism to kill? Perhaps?


Few questions after your spoiler but I am more curious about the doll transformation because we clearly saw Madoka style that at first it looks like Shiraho was human but then turned into a doll. The limbs changed from human to doll like. Maybe not but it looked like it to me.

Anyway thanks for all the help with this series. YOU ARE #1 for this series info in terms of the LN translations. Your info is therefore valuable to me.

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Nov 16, 2011 1:49 PM

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poor konoha´s heart xD
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This episode was actually atleast watchable. The fanservice parts weren't that bad IMO whihc is a plus.

The story is hella confusing though -_-'
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Yumekichi11 said:
After reading your spoiler you can give to the father my warmest death wishes for being a stupid ignorant. Moreover it looks like the mother also did something nor right as in with whole acting thing.

So I was right? Shiraho became a doll due to that red core thing or red thing inside that person previously we saw?

The red core expands and turns you into a doll or just plain turns you into a doll?

At the very least we know the red core upon expanding too much and having no place to expand turns out the mechanism to kill? Perhaps?


Few questions after your spoiler but I am more curious about the doll transformation because we clearly saw Madoka style that at first it looks like Shiraho was human but then turned into a doll. The limbs changed from human to doll like. Maybe not but it looked like it to me.

Anyway thanks for all the help with this series. YOU ARE #1 for this series info in terms of the LN translations. Your info is therefore valuable to me.


imo..


just read from other forum, and come with that conclusion...

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hudang said:
Yumekichi11 said:
After reading your spoiler you can give to the father my warmest death wishes for being a stupid ignorant. Moreover it looks like the mother also did something nor right as in with whole acting thing.

So I was right? Shiraho became a doll due to that red core thing or red thing inside that person previously we saw?

The red core expands and turns you into a doll or just plain turns you into a doll?

At the very least we know the red core upon expanding too much and having no place to expand turns out the mechanism to kill? Perhaps?


Few questions after your spoiler but I am more curious about the doll transformation because we clearly saw Madoka style that at first it looks like Shiraho was human but then turned into a doll. The limbs changed from human to doll like. Maybe not but it looked like it to me.

Anyway thanks for all the help with this series. YOU ARE #1 for this series info in terms of the LN translations. Your info is therefore valuable to me.


imo..


just read from other forum, and come with that conclusion...
Interesting things are becoming more mystical. Regardless I cannot wait to see the love meter addressing in explaining it. Due to polar opposites of Konoha/Sovereignty's red core reactions to love.

Also if Shiraho is human then why did she have a mechanism? Oh wait Shiraho was never that doll but it was Sovereignty who is? Could it be?

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after all the discussion and watch the ep i conclude that it was confusing
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hmm...konoha turning into a sword was funny...guess it just proves she un-fuckable

so what, everytime she strips she turns into a sword?
and i think the 11th mechanism thing was a pretty noticeable stuff up
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Yumekichi11 said:
Interesting things are becoming more mystical. Regardless I cannot wait to see the love meter addressing in explaining it. Due to polar opposites of Konoha/Sovereignty's red core reactions to love.

Also if Shiraho is human then why did she have a mechanism? Oh wait Shiraho was never that doll but it was Sovereignty who is? Could it be?


that is also my question... if shiraho is human, why she can manipulate that doll in episode 6 right?

but, i have 2 theory in that matter..
1. shiraho has other cursed tool/abilities that can manipulate doll.
OR
2. the one who manipulate that doll is the "real" sovereignty. and shiraho just take acting in front off haruaki and the other. and remember, in that LN references, shiraho is so perfect in acting.. so why not?

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