Do you like AnimeBasho.com as our new name?
Yes, I like it.
14.4%
30
No, I don't like it, and here's my suggestion...
5.8%
12
No, I want to keep it as MyAnimeList.net
63.9%
133
I don't really care, I just want the site to work
15.9%
33
208 votes
| A lot of discussion has taken place (in IRC) regarding changing the name of the website. MyAnimeList has grown a lot since it's start in March 2006, and I feel that the "list" (and .net) part of the name stunts MAL's growth. I feel we have more features that can be used (Clubs, Forums, Blogs, profiles, favorites, etc...) and that they can be better marketed towards new users if we weren't stuck with a name that pointed specifically towards a "list". So, a new name is in the making. After some discussion, we came up with AnimeBasho.com (Basho means "Place" in Japanese). This makes it similar, but not the same, as animesuki's site. If you like the name: AnimeBasho.com, vote that you like it. If you don't, vote no and provide a DIFFERENT name. Don't vote no and not offer anything to the table, that doesn't help us. If you'd like to just stick to MyAnimeList.net, vote for that as well. However, this option is not likely to happen. We will be changing names. If you have a name suggestion, PM IT TO ME. DO NOT POST IT IN THIS THREAD. Make sure the domain .com is available too (use http://www.networksolutions.com to check). Also make sure it has ANIME in the domain (or if it doesn't, it better be damn catchy). Everything will remain the same. All features, all users, everything. Just the name changes. |
| I like Animebasho but anything you come up with is fine with me. |
| I dont really care much cause in the end, i'll still be here so a name change is fine with me, however, though i wasnt there for the discussion on irc, it looked to me that the discussion was very short and not many possibilties was considered. So i look forward to seeing the ideas people come up with. |
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| I don't care either; hence that's what I voted for. But hey, if I get the opportunity to change the name, then I'm thinking of one. If I can't, no loss. |
| But...but MAL is...MAL... |
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| I'm under the category that I really don't care as long as the site is up and working and everything. AnimeBasho sounds catchy though. Though I don't know how many people will know what "basho" means. |
| Well, without trying to be rude or anything I'll tell you my initial reaction. Hell, Hell, HELL NO! but w/e do what you want, its not a big deal. I just remember awhile ago whilst debating about other site features in another topic I expressed worry that the focus of the site would leave the lists. Everyone was so quick to come back with things like "The focus will never change" but here we go. and yes, I'm sure most people will be thinking "what lemon? come on, its just a simple name change. The focus is still the same." However, this is still the first step. I for one never want the focus to change, because then what will we be? Another generic anime site. Maybe im being too dramatic, maybe im crazy, but w/e thats how I feel. |
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| The Dragon Empress has arrived....again. I know alot of you people are wondering. Where the fuck did she go? Well, I didn't go anywhere. I just don't post on the forums anymore. I'm...not a forum person. But this topic in particular is making me step out of the shadows for a moment so I can say what I need to say. MAL is MAL. Whether the name is changed or not, nothing is going to be different. That's what everyone says. But... I agree with Kana in the fact that we're just following the huge group of generic anime sites that use simple Japanese in their title. I never understood that. I really didn't. And Anime Basho ? That means Anime Place, right? That just sounds so dull and uninviting. I don't like it at all. MAL is catchy enough. I might be ruining chances with this argument. But... I just wanted to say... I don't want this site to change. I've met alot of wonderful people here. Kanashimi. Stoneblade. Kei-clone. Aokaado. Running Lemon. Ice Neko. Crystal. And others. Everyone here are wonderful, nice people. And all I see at other generic sites are people bitching about this and that and stupid crap. That's not MAL, now is it? MAL's a family community. and I want it to stay that way. I want it to stay the same wonderful place that it was when I joined. |
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| I'd also like to add this. Although I truly value being able to voice my opinion on something like this, I would appreciate and respect it more if Xinil did what HE thought was best for HIS site rather then trying to please everyone. Even if that means him doing something I don't like. |
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| i refuse to voice my opinion on anything anymore. so i shant. but i did vote. :D |
| ...Psst. I think that's what he's doing. (In reference to Lemon's above post.) |
ShinoFuji said: ...Psst. I think that's what he's doing. (In reference to Lemon's above post.) lol, psst, I always thought so too ;P I was just voicing my approval. |
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| I would have to agree that this is Xinil's site, and thus it is his choice. I do not thnk I would have joined up if the name was anime basho.. I personaly cannot think of a better name, other than MyAnimeList. But if you are going to change the name.. I think alternatives should be concidered.. Oh well, this is just my opinion. I know I've not been here as long as some people (let me see... I've been here just over 4 months), but the MyAnimeList has grown on me. I remember being welcomed to "MAL" and having to think for a moment what MAL stood for, ahha. Hounddog said it best.. hounddog said: But...but MAL is...MAL... If the title changes to anime basho, I obviously wont leave the site, but I will probably still call it MAL (as Kana said). I also hope the focus does not shift.. because the main reason why I, and pretty much almost everyone else is because of the lists. |
| I would happen to agree with running lemon The focus of MAL is the lists and the name should reflect that. Plus there is something about animebashou that does not roll of the tounge well... |
ReverseHarem said: Why not? I like your opinion! ^.^ I bet you voted... against animebasho. i refuse to voice my opinion on anything anymore. so i shant. but i did vote. :D |
Xinil said: MyAnimeList has grown a lot since it's start in March 2006, and I feel that the "list" (and .net) part of the name stunts MAL's growth. I disagree. "My anime list" was how I found this place. And it was easy to find because of its name. As far as the community is concerned, links to the forums and clubs and everything were right there. It wasn't hard to start playing around with the site's multitude of toys, and I saw immediately that there was more to the site than just an anime list. If you do change the name, I think the words "anime" and "list" should be in the title somewhere, because it does bring people here, and whether they decide to use all of the community features or not is up to them. Personally, I think the name "My Anime List" is really catchy, and a lot more attractive than "Anime Basho" (honestly, when I first read that, I didn't like it at all, and not just because it's different, but because this is an english-based website and I think the name should be in english too; AnimeSuki can get away with that because suki is a commonly understood Japanese word, and a cute word at that; basho, not so much). I also think "My Anime List" reflects the site very well. I think that if you're going to change it, you should try to come up with something similar, but reflects the community features somehow. So I'll vote to put in some suggestions, to try to be helpful instead of just running my mouth, but keep in mind that I really think My Anime List is what you should stick with. |
| TBH I hate "animebasho." I found this site by googling "anime list" after all... I'll think up some suggestions. |
| MyAnimeList forever, I just can't imagine it changing....:( |
selective_yellow said: ReverseHarem said: Why not? I like your opinion! ^.^ I bet you voted... against animebasho. i refuse to voice my opinion on anything anymore. so i shant. but i did vote. :D :D shh, it's our secret. |
| No, I want to keep it as MyAnimeList.net =( |
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ReverseHarem said: okay, I wont tell anyone xP selective_yellow said: ReverseHarem said: Why not? I like your opinion! ^.^ I bet you voted... against animebasho. i refuse to voice my opinion on anything anymore. so i shant. but i did vote. :D :D shh, it's our secret. |
| I agree with much of what is being said here, I found this site by Googleing something along the lines of recommended anime list. I find the name nice, and simple. Although I would still use MAL if the name changed, the mood of the site wouldn't be the same =( |
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| I honestly found this site because my friend Fehrant linked me to it in a dicussion thread at a forum I went to, and I saw his list and thought it was cool, so I joined to have one of my own. So, honestly, regardless of the name, I would have joined anyway, Lol. |
| Everyone says that they found this site because of the name. What people are forgetting to realize is that when you search for "anime list", you will be presented with "AnimeBasho". It's not like this site loses its anime list features. Do people not realize that there is no "social community" anime site out there right now? This is MAL's chance. This is AnimeBasho's chance. We can put our foot in the door and take it all my having a name that actually "gives" us power. MyAnimeList gives us people who are looking for an anime list site. AnimeBasho gives us people looking for an anime list site AND people looking for anime information AND people looking for an anime social community. :( |
Awh. Well, since you put it that way.. I don`t care;; it wouldn`t matter to me at all. Whatever you want will decide it in the end. x] |
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| I'm not very vocal in the forums, most of you don't know me, so weigh my opinion appropriately. My feelings tend toward what running_lemon, Kanashimi and others have written. However here's my take on argument: If you want to shift focus to a more social community, that's your business and that's fine. I personally don't think a name change is the way to go though. When I think of anime, I don't initially think of it as relating to anything social. If I wanted social I could go back to myspace (which I haven't made an update to in a year). Anyway my point is that if I'm searching for someplace useful and google anime list, given the choice between a place called animebasho and one called myanimelist, can you guess which one I'll click on? What goes through my head when I first hear animebasho? Please excuse this but: Animebarfo, animebastardo, bashmeontheheadwithanime... Those names maybe derogatory, sorry I'm not trying to make fun of your name choice. While I personally don't have a problem with the name in particular, I'm just pointing out people's natural inclination to make fun of things they don't understand. You might as well name it myanimespace.com, and be a clone (you'll get more traffic too). I think the name change might have the effect of hurting you, instead of increasing site traffic. If you want to promote the site as something other then a list. Why not start with something simple? Update eveyone's sig banners with a catchphrase like MyAnimeList, more than just a list! There are plenty of them. MyAnimeList - now with more Moar! <-replace moar with whatever catchy thing you can think of. I hope I didn't come off as coming down on you. As always I'm grateful to you for the wonderful services you provide. Thanks for MAL, Xinil! |
kioJun 18, 2007 11:54 PM
| I'was there when this issue was discussed for about 50 minutes, or even more. Therefore you know I fully support AnimeBasho. :D |
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| I understand the potential to "hurt" MAL. But, in defense of that, we still have MyAnimeList.net. All traffic will be redirected. I don't think it will be that much of a "hit". Hopefully. :) |
| I wasn't part of this IRC discussion either. Really, i've been busy watching Sola, and i can't use the IRC for 5 minutes without screwing up. This is difficult...AnimeBasho doesn't sound right to me. And yet i know that the name change is going to happen. Xinil mentions it on his first post. I have to agree, i really want the site to stay MAL, but this move might be the best one that Xinil does. RoosterTeeth (the guys who make RedvBlue; Xinil, StoneBlade, Kana and a few of my other friends know this site) started out small. And now they have over half a million users! They still have a social community feel to their site. Despite the obvious problems a website normally has. (people that don't care what they post about and cause problems. Another thing i love about this site. None of those careless people spamming the internet are here) As for what i voted for...the third option. But really, as long as the soul, heart, body and mind stay, then this site will be the same. Fun. |
| do what you will with your site, xinil. =) but... (Hah!) i see the lists as being ur draw... and the features (like anime info, clubs, forum, etc) are a nice added bonus that keeps members coming back but i dont think its wise to try to do much more since there are many other more well-established sites that offer what you are trying to push. the name may seem obvious but hey, we all came here for the lists... and stayed for the company =P (i do think the .net should be changed tho, definitely) |
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| When i think about it, RT didn't start small. DrunkGamers existed before RT. And their RvB project had heaps of viewers after Episode 1. I guess i was just trying to come up with a good example. On another note; have you gotten any other suggested names Xinil? |
| People will still find this site on google as long as Xinil doesn't change the meta tags... Myanimelist will obviously redirect you here. We will probably get more members due to still having myanimelist.net and animebasho, I'm sure it'll all work out for the best :D I love the idea of the name change but I'm sure something better can be thought up then animebasho. |
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| well i have to say is give this name change a little bit more time on it.i believe theres alot of good names that the community of this site can come up with.plus the way it sounds the community does not like the name AnimeBasho so i say give it a little more time and think it clearly before doing anything else and maybe have a name contest to see who can come up with a good name thats my suggestion. ^_^ |
| I agree with kanashimi and the others that agreed with him/her. Ofcourse, its up to Xinil, since its his site, but Myanimelist has grown on me. I do think that a name change can make this site boom, if its lucky, but if i had just seen animebasho i would have completly skipped checkin the site out. I mean, just how many 'anime*insertsomethinghere*' sites are there? Animebasho would have blended in with the crowd, even more so with the .com, and i would have overlooked it. However, if i had found animebasho as one of the top links if i had searched up anime list, and saw in its discription anime list then i probly would have joined anways. I guess for most people whom already know and are used to myanimelist.net would be sad at a name change, as i feel it would simply change the environment for me, even thou the contents are all the same. But for n00bs that see the site first off as animebasho.com it wouldnt matter to them, and they would grow to like the sites name just like myanimelist.net has grown on the MAL generation. What? oh snap i cant remember what was going on... oh thats right, name change... i cant remember what i was gonna write.... oh snap this doesnt make much sense, i suck at explaining things. p.s. When i first saw myanimelist.net i clicked on it straight away for the title, and the home page automatically shows everything the site has, not just the list, but like i said a name change can either be hugely succesful or not make much of a difference. Either way i dont like the sound of "animebasho.com" =/..... but whatever.... p.s.s when its the names changed will MAL siggys still be the same or will they be changed say animebasho? |
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| Well, my initial reaction to the name change was essentially like half or so of those who posted. Frankly, I don't like it. But after thinking about it a little more, in the long run a new name would likely draw more traffic, and with MAL's (or, AnimeBasho's) easy to use interface, the newbs would likely stay and the site could turn into something much bigger than it is. I feel like it's a good choice for you Xinil. But I probably would have never joined a site called AnimeBasho, (though I probably won't leave either. I don't care about names That much) because on first impression, I would feel like it was trying too hard to be something it's not. It's my personal preference and all, but I feel like the name MAL gave me an indication of the people that would be here and be part of the community. It was humorously obvious, and felt more intelligent because of it. I liked that, that's all. When I think of those anime sites with names involving some amalgamation of "Anime" and a random Japanese word, typically I think of elitists, little kids, or both. Hence why I don't go for such things. But seriously, my only real issue with the name change is that with a name like MAL people will always know you made the list. My Anime List will always be what people think of when they see an interactive anime list online, because it's frikkin My Anime List. heh. It was your idea and hard work and namesake. But with something like AnimeBasho, I feel like that fact is going to be lost, either somewhat or entirely, and I think that's a shame. So those are my thoughts. I voted to keep it MAL, but I see why you'd wanna change it too. S'all I got. edit: I forgot to ask, What happens to My Manga List now? |
Twitchy_FingahJun 19, 2007 3:26 AM
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| AnimeBasho is a good name and i don't care what the site will be called as long as all old addresses keep working (e.g. my list will be accessible at so-and-so.myanimelist.net), but... nevetheless i voted for "keep it as MyAnimeList.net" :-( don't know why... ;-) |
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| I prefer MyAnimeList, since it's much more standout and Animebasho sounds too ordinary. there are already tons of sites out there with anime- prefix domain names. |
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| Like many have said, I will respect Xinil's decision no matter which way he goes on this. This is HIS baby, HIS site, and inevitably, all changes are HIS decision. Personally, I like the name just the way it is!! The list is the "soul" of this site (thanks pillows... I love that), and regardless of everything else MAL has to offer, is the main reason most of us are here. AnimeBasho... hmmm... well... for the 99% of us that don't speak Japanese... it just sounds bad initially. I would love for the site to just stay as MAL, but as is true with most things in life, change is inevitable. I just hope that if you decide to change the name, something different will be used. |
| Myanimelist, I want it to stay the same. If it changes though, I guess I would survive but I dont really get why the name needs to change, the list feature is what drew me in, its the community that made me stay. |
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| I have to agree with Hayuchu there. To me my anime list is such a good name. If we could get the .com it would rock but even the .net is fine imo. |
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| I was not going to voice my opinion here, as I had done it already in IRC . But Since there's some many "against" posts I might as well do it. There was a long discussion in IRC about this. Xinil said he wanted the site to break the boundaries of myanimelist, and it had to reflect that the site had become more than just that. It would also need to have "anime" in it's name. And so like cyruz said, we discussed this for about 50mins~1hour. There were a lot of names suggested and I mean a LOT... After some thinking I suggested that name. And I did it because basho means place. And my reasoning for the suggestion was the fact that the site is no longer just an anime list, it's a "place" where you can do/find almost anything anime related. The majority of people discussing it at the time, liked the name and so it went forward. So you can't say Xinil decided this alone. Maybe it's not the best name, so if someone can think of a better one, then great. There was actually another name sugested yesterday night in IRC that it's also good. The fact is, I also think the name "myanimelist" cast chains around the site, so to speak. If MAL wants to be an alternative to ANN, Anidb, AniNFO. And I think that's what Xinil wants right now. The name Myanimelist doesn't have enought "credibility". Look at it this way: If you ask someone that doesn't really know any of the sites I mentioned. "If you want to know someting about anime would you go to AnimeNewsNetwork Anidb AniNFO or Myanimelist?" 95% of the people would say one of the first 3 options. And why would they not pick MAL...? Because when you hear the name myanimelist you imediately think. "it's a site where you can make a list of anime" so you can't really do/find anything else. That is incorrect of course, but the fact is: MAL's name only shows one of the multiple features the site has. So, only people looking for the list feature will come here in the first place. Unless someone that is already here recommends the site. That's what Xinil wants to change in my view. Expand the site to a animeressource (which it already is IMO), while the name does not reflect it. So can you blame him because he wants to expand his is innicial project to something larger...? For that to happen he see's the name change as a good start and I also agree a new name is needed. Don't get me wrong, I do like MAL. For me it will always be MAL. It was the reason I came here in the first place. And obviously, the list is the main/strongest feature, and IMO it will continue to be the thing that will distinguish MAL from the others. But it has overcome that... It's the: possibility of making a list + making a profile + chosing favourites + rating anime + join clubs + join a community + the forums + the blogs + the tagging.... and I could go on. Aren't we losing a good amount of possible users by passing the wrong idea that this site is just an animelist....? IMHO we are. You're worried that people looking for a "animelist" will overlook Animebasho (or any other name). Well if Xinil intends to keep the "myanimelist.net" domain and make it redirect to animebasho. I don't see why people will overlook it. They'll click on myanimelist link on google and will be redirected to the new site. And on the main page they'll see all the features the site has. I even suggested, (and Xinil had already thought of that) that the main page could have thumbnail pictures of the lists of one or more random users on the site. As a way to promote the strongest feature. So I honestly don't see MAL losing members just because the name is gonna change. People looking for the list feature will still come, and people not looking for the list feature will now come too. Yet the site will keep being what it is now, and hopefully it will evolve to something even better. And TBH I think it's ridiculous to say that people who are already here will might leave the site just 'coz the name changed, when the content didn't. There's always gonna be people againts the change, there is no name that will appeal to every singe person. But IMO in this case the change is necessary, and though the majority of the voters seems to think it will be terrible. I honestly think it will do some good. (ps: Xinil, if you think differently than the way I said/supposed you did please feel free to correct me.) |
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| I don't really understand how the name cast "chains" on the site, the name really does say it all. I am for the name staying the same and that is my 2 cents. Maybe Im nostagic and that is all. Im also a member of bigger sites about anime such as, Narutomania. and the atmoshpere there is so hostile and big, it just doesnt have that friendly feel that MAL has. But as each week goes by, and more people join it gets more and more like that. Im just scared of the site losing it's main purpose and feel that is to say, that anime and the anime database wont be the main purpose of the site but that getting members, and hits on the site will be. Personally I look at what is better, the number of members or the quality of the members. But as Chelle has stated this is Xinil's site, and he has every right to do whatever he wants with it. Im just afraid that as the site grows, that feeling I got when I first joined will dissapear. But that could be me just being paranoid. |
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| Well i've only been here for a week so I don't know how much my opinion counts. Personally I joined this because the name intrigued me. And I pretty much gathered from the name that it would be something that I coud keep a list of anime. If you are thinking like turning this more into an anime myspace then the only names i have for those are name rip offs. Like myotakuspace.com or even call it animeplace.com. The problem I see is that YES alot of people won't understand the name animebasho.com and might overlook the site. Right now though my brain still wants to call it MAL. Maybe if we could come up with something that still uses the initials? Like myanimelife.com I dunno. I'm trying here. |
I've Been Watching Anime for 20 years now. Can you beat that? |
| I actually like the new name, it doesn't sound that bad. And it has a way to get more attention as stated. The Way I found here had not really anything to do with the name, a friend of mine on a smaller forum had a thing with "anime list" in her signature, I clicked it and ended up here. So I thought it could be a good way to get rid of the Excel list. Changing the name doesn't make much differense either, but as earlier stated. To aim higher it's a good choice, and if the "anime list" search from google still links MAL and that link redricts to AnimeBasho it's not bad at all. Kayrhandros said: Aren't we losing a good amount of possible users by passing the wrong idea that this site is just an animelist....? I think the same. |
| Quite honestly, people seemed to be concerned that since the site's focus has been lists, if the name is changed that would no longer be the case. Which really isn't something that needs to be worried about at all. While Xinil does want to show that there are far more features than just the list, the site will still have the best listing system available, which will probably continue to be its main draw. I'm in general agreement with Xinil, Kayr, and others here. I personally think basho has a nice ring to it. Given I have a bit more experience with Japanese than most people, but it's easy to say, and not all that difficult to remember. The name change really only offers more chances for future growth. Some may find it to be too general, but to be quite honest, MAL can be seen exactly the same way. Most probably don't want to see the name change due to nostalgia, and that really is to be expected. |
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| I dunno why are we so concerned about drawing in tons and tons of people? Are we in a race or a contest for the most members? That seems to be everyones concern, and I suppose I cant blame them, but i just hope that the Xinil and others do it in a way that we arnt pulling in the "internet l33tist". I really want the site to stay the friendly and fun place that it still is. |
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| i hope you guys keep my Anime List as name |
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