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Aug 13, 2021 12:26 AM
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While I do know this is a Rebuild forum i think Anno gives us some answers about EoE in this movie. Through out the movie Asuka and Shinji both admit to having a crush on one another early when they meet. Since the first movie is honestly a condinced retelling of NGE first episodes i think it is safe to say that stays true for all of Eva. Then we get to the ending of Rebuild 4.0 and we see shinji and asuka on the red beach but this time he sends asuka back away. In EoE however they stay together. I could be really reaching with this so please give input on this theory.
Aug 13, 2021 12:43 AM
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I dont think they end up together in EoE but in the manga, they are together in the new world. It's weird to think that kensuke x asuka is a thing and that shinji goes with mari???
Aug 13, 2021 12:46 AM
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In thrice upon a time, Shinji creates new world together with Mari. In this new world without Eva, we can see Kaworu and Ayanami, and there is Asuka in that same scene, it's easy to miss this part. Conclusion in this world Shinji end up living together with Mari and there is Asuka, but it's not asuka from previous world. Asuka from previous world is living with someone she loves, Kensuke in her own World.
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Aug 13, 2021 12:58 AM
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ye since its a multiverse loop theory i think too that Shinji x Asuka happened on the many timeline loops of the End of Evangelion too but that loop is broken with this multiverse rewriting ending on the Rebuilds ending

but i like to think at least one of the End of Evangelion timeline where Shinji x Asuka happen continued even after Shinji rewritten the multiverse thats just how multiverse or Many Worlds Interpretation works
Aug 13, 2021 3:06 AM
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imgeformat said:
I dont think they end up together in EoE but in the manga, they are together in the new world. It's weird to think that kensuke x asuka is a thing and that shinji goes with mari???

i figured out the ships back whenever it was released in Japan, was upset with the ships and i thought i wouldn’t enjoy the movie, but i just finished it and can say that it’s a acceptable ending, im sure that in the new world they’re in, everyone else doesn’t have the memories from the timeline we know, only mari and shinji have those memories, so i could see them getting together
Aug 13, 2021 4:13 AM
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I think Shinji doesn't end up with Asuka in EOE.
Aug 13, 2021 4:32 AM
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There are no canon romance in evangelion, and mari x shinji is just a meta plot device thing. But it is more canon than asushin. Cope
Aug 13, 2021 5:15 AM
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Since they're the only two people there, they don't have a choice.
Aug 13, 2021 6:48 AM
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I haven't watched the movie yet, but I love watching fujoshi complain about "unnecessary romance" in it just because Kawoshin didn't become canon at the end. I love people who become hypocritical because of the inability to express their real emotions.
Aug 13, 2021 11:18 AM
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why tf r ppl talking about ships when it comes to evangelion lmaooooo

if then ending up together (which they absolutely shouldn’t) is the burning question u have after seeing eoe u missed the whole point
Aug 13, 2021 12:40 PM
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why tf r ppl talking about ships when it comes to evangelion lmaooooo

if then ending up together (which they absolutely shouldn’t) is the burning question u have after seeing eoe u missed the whole point


huh it was just an analysis i had on the movie anno directly refrences it in the rebuild its not really a main take away from eoe but i think it does give away some of annos intention in the original series on who shinji would have ended up with if the story would have progressed after eoe
Aug 14, 2021 8:09 AM
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No, luckily not or it's very ambigous. That couple screams domestic abuse all over lol
Yes, I'm one of those "Kaworu and Shinji were so much cuter." It's a shame that... oh well. Shinji deserves someone, who builds up his confidence either way.
Asuka is interesting as a character, but both as a couple: awful.
Aug 14, 2021 9:30 AM

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Personally I think Anno should just do what you see with some mangas and create “routes” for the Blu-Ray, i.e. you pick a character from the menu, e.g. Asuka, and that’s who Shinji ends up with at the end.

People can get the ending they want (be it Asuka, Rei, Mari, Fuyutski) and Anno gets to make bank. Everybody’s happy.
Aug 14, 2021 9:50 AM

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I swear I'm not ship guy and this doesn't answer your question at all but... ShinjiXMari makes no sense to me. They hardly talk. It really is weird.


Jul 22, 2024 2:51 AM
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In thrice upon a time, Shinji creates new world together with Mari. In this new world without Eva, we can see Kaworu and Ayanami, and there is Asuka in that same scene, it's easy to miss this part. Conclusion in this world Shinji end up living together with Mari and there is Asuka, but it's not asuka from previous world. Asuka from previous world is living with someone she loves, Kensuke in her own World.
@hulazhar I know im hella late to this discussion but your whole comment screamed of rage bait and kinda made me chuckle. i can refute all three points you made here. First, shinji and mari dont 'live' in that world, neither is the asuka and rei or kawarou at the railway station real. If you paid extra close attention, you would know the railway station sequence with a grown up shinji and mari is still within the anti universe. She's literally is just there to drag him back to the real world or "previous world" as you called it where evas no longer exist. Second, the sound director said specifically that the ending mari scene wasnt designed to be romantic. that doesnt mean that romanctic relationship couldnt be possible between them later, its still possible. and third and lastly, literally everyone in the official staff and directors and voice actors have stated that kensuke and asuka are a father daughter relationship. Shinji is dragged by mari out of the anti universe and bring him back to where asuka and kensuke are. everything, even the ships, are left ambigous. one ship isnt though and thats asuka x kensuke is most definitley not a thing in any situation lol. even mari x shinji is extremely debatable after what the sound director said.
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@hulazhar I know im hella late to this discussion but your whole comment screamed of rage bait and kinda made me chuckle. i can refute all three points you made here. First, shinji and mari dont 'live' in that world, neither is the asuka and rei or kawarou at the railway station real. If you paid extra close attention, you would know the railway station sequence with a grown up shinji and mari is still within the anti universe. She's literally is just there to drag him back to the real world or "previous world" as you called it where evas no longer exist. Second, the sound director said specifically that the ending mari scene wasnt designed to be romantic. that doesnt mean that romanctic relationship couldnt be possible between them later, its still possible. and third and lastly, literally everyone in the official staff and directors and voice actors have stated that kensuke and asuka are a father daughter relationship. Shinji is dragged by mari out of the anti universe and bring him back to where asuka and kensuke are. everything, even the ships, are left ambigous. one ship isnt though and thats asuka x kensuke is most definitley not a thing in any situation lol. even mari x shinji is extremely debatable after what the sound director said.
@Mikeyman444 Well said!
Oct 22, 2024 7:13 AM

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@Mikeyman444 Well said!
@Junichi_Hashiba @Mikeyman444 Im new to the discussion, i know its a long time. But, well, didnt knew that about the director. Good to know, like EoE, everything is left for "us" to imagine.
Just like i did with EOE, which everyone can return, in "mine" canon, they do (and it makes sense).

But, i will say it this way, Mari as a character and the central role she is given. I just dont like it, she had like 3/4 interactions with Shinji? Steals Asuka and Rei that were co stars on the original spot in a franchise, in which the time the movie came out was more then 15 years old. It just left a bad taste in my mouth. Even the Asuka and Kensuke situation, came out of nowhere. The entire point of the originals was Asuka and Shinji grow and deal with their traumas together, in which in the end of EOE, finally Asuka recognizes Shinji.
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Im 3 years late, but HELL NO!

He ends up with best girl Mari.

Oct 28, 2024 12:37 AM
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Im 3 years late, but HELL NO!

He ends up with best girl Mari.

@HollowIchigo58 quite literally doesn't but media literacy is dead and the words of the directors that worked on Eva mean nothing so yeah, I guess. At the end of the day if you wanna interpret that way despite the directors telling you that's not the case, that's your business
Oct 28, 2024 12:40 AM
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@Junichi_Hashiba @Mikeyman444 Im new to the discussion, i know its a long time. But, well, didnt knew that about the director. Good to know, like EoE, everything is left for "us" to imagine.
Just like i did with EOE, which everyone can return, in "mine" canon, they do (and it makes sense).

But, i will say it this way, Mari as a character and the central role she is given. I just dont like it, she had like 3/4 interactions with Shinji? Steals Asuka and Rei that were co stars on the original spot in a franchise, in which the time the movie came out was more then 15 years old. It just left a bad taste in my mouth. Even the Asuka and Kensuke situation, came out of nowhere. The entire point of the originals was Asuka and Shinji grow and deal with their traumas together, in which in the end of EOE, finally Asuka recognizes Shinji.
@Viriathus the asuka kensuke thing is literally just a father daughter dynamic. I agree it came out of nowhere but it is well established what it's supposed to be, from both anno, and the voice actors and the scene direction. But yeah, eoe is just a much better film for Eva. But rebuilds aren't the worst thing in the world if you understand the ending, it just feels very linear and "shounen", which is different from how Eva felt
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@Viriathus the asuka kensuke thing is literally just a father daughter dynamic. I agree it came out of nowhere but it is well established what it's supposed to be, from both anno, and the voice actors and the scene direction. But yeah, eoe is just a much better film for Eva. But rebuilds aren't the worst thing in the world if you understand the ending, it just feels very linear and "shounen", which is different from how Eva felt
@Mikeyman444 I enjoyed the Rebuilts, but i still stand that Mari came out of nowhere and "stole" the spotlight. The Rebuilts are good, but they arent NGE. We can see NGE or the Rebuilts without watching the other, is good for new fans, but NGE was a product of its time that the Rebuilts couldnt replicate.

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