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Dec 17, 2017 10:27 AM
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Hello, I’ve been on this anime site for a few months now and I notice that avatar TLAB and samurai jack and other animes are not on this site? Is there a possibility that they will add American anime’s to this site in the future?
Dec 17, 2017 10:28 AM
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yeah where's johnny test
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Dec 17, 2017 10:29 AM
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Because cartoons are not listed on MyANIMElist.
Dec 17, 2017 10:32 AM
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>American
>Anime

Pick one
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Dec 17, 2017 10:48 AM
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No because if you add one american production you will have to add them all to remain consistent which is one of the main priorities of any DB. And adding all the american animation out there surpasses the capacity of the staff and defeats the purpose of this site. You can't use vague, subjective feelings like 'I feel this is an anime' or 'it reminds me of anime' as criteria for whether something can enter a DB or not. Databases need strict, objective criteria so they can be applied without doubt and having to discuss every single addition until a consensus is reached. Geographical restrictions are one of the easiest-to-follow criteria and therefore very efficient.
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Dec 17, 2017 1:14 PM
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Because MAL has decided to let Kitsu cover that job.
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Jan 25, 2018 6:52 PM
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fiwip said:
anime Pronunciation /ˈanɪmeɪ/
A style of Japanese film and television animation, typically aimed at adults as well as children.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/anime

That means American anime does indeed not exist. Thank me later :*


Lol you just proved yourself wrong. MAL clearly states that anime isn’t a style, it’s a geographic denotation. Anyone can copy a style. If an American makes teriyaki, it’s still Japanese food. If a European paints a Japanese water color, it’s still a Japanese watercolor because those things are styles.
Jan 26, 2018 6:13 AM
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"American anime" isn't really considered anime at all, it's more in the cartoon category. Anime was born in Japan. Calling it American anime is sort of contradictory, yunno
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In Japan, the term "anime" is used to refer to any kind of animation, regardless of origin (so, yeah, things like Ben 10 and Johnny Test are considered anime there), but MyAnimeList use the Western definition (i.e. any animation produced in Asia). However, I think that Western animations who DO have Japanese companies involved should be on this site.
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Vini310 said:
In Japan, the term "anime" is used to refer to any kind of animation, regardless of origin (so, yeah, things like Ben 10 and Johnny Test are considered anime there), but MyAnimeList use the Western definition (i.e. any animation produced in Asia). However, I think that Western animations who DO have Japanese companies involved should be on this site.


I agree. There are many Japanese studios which will never really be recognized for stuff like The Last Unicorn. The studio that worked on it, later helped make Nausicaa Valley of the Wind. Sometimes for historical purposes it is good to know what the studios worked on in their totality. Even if it was outsourced animation. Some animators just animated so much through the 80's of American television and it would be nice to know what they worked on.
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Why doesn't my favourite animatsiya site list any Swedish animatsiya? This is racist. Swedes can make Russian cartoons too.
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Just no. I don't need Ben 10 next to these chinesse ones.
Feb 6, 2018 9:48 AM
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I think author is fan of japan animation that's why he got tons of japan anime on this site.I love to watch japan anime rather than american anime's.
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In Japan, the term "anime" is used to refer to any kind of animation, regardless of origin (so, yeah, things like Ben 10 and Johnny Test are considered anime there), but MyAnimeList use the Western definition (i.e. any animation produced in Asia). However, I think that Western animations who DO have Japanese companies involved should be on this site.
@Vini310 That definition is flawed in itself. How can you literally say that Airbender is not worthy of being an anime but Anpanman is? And why should nationality be the reason why something is an anime in the first place? This is just racism happening in a way.
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And why should nationality be the reason why something is an anime in the first place?


Because that's what the word mean in English, a piece of animation from Japan. That's nothing new, there is also Donghua (Chinese animation), Aeni (Korean ones), and even outside animation, it's also done for Movies, like Bollywood (Hindi Movies) or Spaghetti Westerns (Italian Western). American Movies are almost always referenced by Hollywood outside of the US, even when the Movie is not actually made in Hollywood.

These terms were made to define a sub-specialization of the medias, targetted by country, and thus their culture that created it, that's all.
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And why should nationality be the reason why something is an anime in the first place?


Because that's what the word mean in English, a piece of animation from Japan. That's nothing new, there is also Donghua (Chinese animation), Aeni (Korean ones), and even outside animation, it's also done for Movies, like Bollywood (Hindi Movies) or Spaghetti Westerns (Italian Western). American Movies are almost always referenced by Hollywood outside of the US, even when the Movie is not actually made in Hollywood.

These terms were made to define a sub-specialization of the medias, targetted by country, and thus their culture that created it, that's all.
@Alexioos95 No, it's not the same case as Bollywood, Hollywood. For the Japanese every animated cartoon is anime. They simply started using this term because it was difficult to pronounce cartoon, or animation so they shortened it. Same way the words manga, manhwa, and such originated, but it doesn't mean that they're different things. You can call anime from Japan japanese anime. Just changing the word from language to language doesn't mean anything. It's like saying that Hindi movies are chalchitras and English movies are movies when both are movies and chalchitras the same.
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Hollywood. For the Japanese every animated cartoon is anime. They simply started using this term because it was difficult to pronounce cartoon, or animation so they shortened it. Same way the words manga, manhwa, and such originated, but it doesn't mean that they're different things. You can call anime from Japan japanese anime. Just changing the word from language to language doesn't mean anything.


I think you are confusing the English word "Anime" with the Japanese one "アニメ". They are homophone; they are pronounced the same, but with different meaning. While, yes, Japan adopted the word from the English language, and English people adopted it back, they did a semantic narrowing in return, because no one calls animation "Anime/アニメ" (not even France, where the word "Animé" existed since way longer, and means animated).

Is it logical ? Not entirely, but most words created in recent times lack grammatical logic explaining their meaning. There is the same thing with "Sushi", by the way, where Japan thinks about the vinegared rice, while other in the world thinks about rolls with fish.

You can disagree, but it's a little bit late of over 40 years to redefine the word; it's already been populated in the whole world.
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Hollywood. For the Japanese every animated cartoon is anime. They simply started using this term because it was difficult to pronounce cartoon, or animation so they shortened it. Same way the words manga, manhwa, and such originated, but it doesn't mean that they're different things. You can call anime from Japan japanese anime. Just changing the word from language to language doesn't mean anything.


I think you are confusing the English word "Anime" with the Japanese one "アニメ". They are homophone; they are pronounced the same, but with different meaning. While, yes, Japan adopted the word from the English language, and English people adopted it back, they did a semantic narrowing in return, because no one calls animation "Anime/アニメ" (not even France, where the word "Animé" existed since way longer, and means animated).

Is it logical ? Not entirely, but most words created in recent times lack grammatical logic explaining their meaning. There is the same thing with "Sushi", by the way, where Japan thinks about the vinegared rice, while other in the world thinks about rolls with fish.

You can disagree, but it's a little bit late of over 40 years to redefine the word; it's already been populated in the whole world.
@Alexioos95 Anime is not an English word, and I'm not confusing anything. Anime is the romanized version of the Japanese word for it. English people and people who speak English are mostly not the same. Some english speakers think anime is jap animation, others think it's mature animation (these people don't consider kodomo anime as anime), some think anime is animation from China, Japan, and Korea, and many others who know the actual meaning that anime is whatever is animated. People simply didn't know what the word actually meant so they started using anime wrongly. It doesn't mean that it's actually meaning is changed 'cause it's dependent on the people who speak Japanese. And I haven't a clue about this sushi idea. If people think that's what sushi is outside Japan then they're not cooking and eating actual sushi.

Also, I'm not redefining the word. It's a Jap word, not an English one. English speakers even say kawai, konnichiwa and what not just for the feel so that's why they even started using the word anime.
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@Alexioos95 Anime is not an English word, and I'm not confusing anything. Anime is the romanized version of the Japanese word for it. English people and people who speak English are mostly not the same. Some english speakers think anime is jap animation, others think it's mature animation (these people don't consider kodomo anime as anime), some think anime is animation from China, Japan, and Korea, and many others who know the actual meaning that anime is whatever is animated. People simply didn't know what the word actually meant so they started using anime wrongly. It doesn't mean that it's actually meaning is changed 'cause it's dependent on the people who speak Japanese. And I haven't a clue about this sushi idea. If people think that's what sushi is outside Japan then they're not cooking and eating actual sushi.

Also, I'm not redefining the word. It's a Jap word, not an English one. English speakers even say kawai, konnichiwa and what not just for the feel so that's why they even started using the word anime.
@OutMask It's a loan word. The fact that it came from Japanese does not mean it is not now also an English word, with different meaning. This happens all the time. The French "bande desinée" means comic, yet you'll only see Francophone comics referred to as such in English - the semantic narrowing Alexioos mentioned. The German word "FlaK" means anti-aircraft gun, yet in English "flak" refers to the shells fired by these guns, and figuratively, harsh criticism. The term anime (or at least its transcription) has, whether you like it or not, left Japanese and become a word in other languages, just like it itself is a shortening of a loan from English.

And wait til' you see what the Japanese have done to all the other loans into Japanese. Like, nobody in Germany thinks "Arbeit" is a part-time job, yet that is exclusively how " アルバイト" used in Japanese. Nor did anyone in Europe dream up the abomination that is アルバイトスタッフ. This is just a thing that happens between languages, there is no obligation and often no reason to stick to the original meaning when the term is more useful with an adapted meaning or connotation. That's what has happened to anime, it's more useful in English to make a distinction between Japanese and non-Japanese cartoons. The fact that there is now some range in meaning does not change that either, in any case it's not the "original" Japanese meaning.

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