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May 29, 2013 4:03 PM
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RGBName
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- like Evangeilion did?
Iconic/famous/controversial/mature/critically-acclaimed?
May 29, 2013 4:05 PM
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Ashita no joe
Kyojin no Hoshi
Ge GE Ge no Kitaro
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
May 29, 2013 4:10 PM
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RGBName
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That's old, maybe something from the last 2 decades?

I've heard people saying Cowboy Bebop, have never watched it though.
May 29, 2013 4:12 PM
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CurrentUsername said:
That's old, maybe something from the last 2 decades?

simply put anime has sganated in past 15 years very little innovation that is a fact
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
May 29, 2013 4:14 PM
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Astro boy
May 29, 2013 4:16 PM
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MFKAE86 said:
Astro boy
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

May 29, 2013 4:18 PM
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Thanks for the info everyone, though, I for the most part prefer somewhat mature shows.
May 29, 2013 4:20 PM
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CurrentUsername said:
Thanks for the info everyone, though, I for the most part prefer somewhat mature shows.

Voilnce Jack
Marimite [ the best Shojo ai ever]
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
May 29, 2013 4:20 PM
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Gunbuster!
May 29, 2013 4:35 PM
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Sailor Moon
Dragon Ball Z
May 29, 2013 4:43 PM
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Mars of Destruction
May 29, 2013 4:50 PM
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DateYutaka said:
Ashita no joe
I want to watch/read this so bad, but both the manga translation and the subbing of the anime seem to be stuck at around 40% through.
May 29, 2013 4:53 PM
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Klitschy said:
Mars of Destruction

Gave people a perfect example of what not to do
May 29, 2013 5:05 PM
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DB/DBZ
Cowboy Bebop
Serial Experiments Lain
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
May 29, 2013 5:10 PM
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Tarextherex said:
DB/DBZ/quote]
very much so

Tarextherex said:
Cowboy Bebop

not innovative

Tarextherex said:
Serial Experiments Lain

while good it was not a changng anime
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
May 29, 2013 5:15 PM
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Claiming Cowboy Bebop changed anime is like claiming The Matrix changed Western film-making

Anyway, I would recommend Mobile Suit Gundam.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/80/Mobile_Suit_Gundam
May 29, 2013 5:33 PM
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Azumanga Daioh.

If not for that anime, the slice-of-life moe genre may not exist.
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May 29, 2013 6:33 PM
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Cowboy Bebop-particularly how anime was received in the west, and it influenced a lot of which other shows came over here.

Revolutionary Girl Utena-the first major shojo/magical girl deconstruction. Madoka Magica would almost certainly not exist without it.
May 29, 2013 6:37 PM
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FallnKnightFakir said:
Cowboy Bebop-particularly how anime was received in the west, and it influenced a lot of which other shows came over here.


say this to any sunrise fan here and see the laguhs you get
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
May 29, 2013 7:18 PM
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@DateYutaka
Just because Bebop didn't make much of splash in Japan doesn't mean that it's not very important to the US's anime history. There's a reason Cowboy Bebop still airs on adult swim (the channel that first aired it) over ten years after it first played it in 2001. And pretty much without stop, I don't think they've ever taken it down for more than 6 months, if at all. It's still a lynchpin for their line up and you'd be hard pressed to find someone over here who wouldn't agree to watch an episode at random.
Also, I am a big Sunrise fan.
May 29, 2013 7:29 PM
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FallnKnightFakir said:
@DateYutaka
Just because Bebop didn't make much of splash in Japan doesn't mean that it's not very important to the US's anime history. There's a reason Cowboy Bebop still airs on adult swim (the channel that first aired it) over ten years after it first played it in 2001. And pretty much without stop, I don't think they've ever taken it down for more than 6 months, if at all. It's still a lynchpin for their line up and you'd be hard pressed to find someone over here who wouldn't agree to watch an episode at random.
Also, I am a big Sunrise fan.


did it Change Namco Bandai's/Sunrise's Business ideas no it did not sorry but thats the angle im come at this from
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
May 29, 2013 7:30 PM
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Don't see what's wrong with Cowboy Bebop, it did open anime for a lot of new demographics. Even if shows before it did deliver a «mature» or «cinematic» experience, it still clearly showed to the masses how anime can be, and quite a lot of shows after it followed it's footsteps. Plus let's not forget this is a recommendation thread, the OP didn't watch it so this is pretty much a no-brainer recommendation


I approve of Utena's mention but sadly it was really underlooked so didn't do much influence tbh. Madoka isn't nearly in the same level and the similarities with it are super vague. It's still a stellar show that was ahead of it's time, but at the same time I didn't see anything after it that had such allegories and symbolism. It definitely pushed the limits of anime has a medium but I feel like not many series followed it's footsteps

Lain is also a show that pushes the limits of anime as a medium, it was the anime you would keep comparing other psychological shows too. I often saw reviewers mention how this is a must-watch and being part of a «big three» along with Bebop and Eva. Anyway solid recommendation as well
May 29, 2013 7:34 PM
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what did bebop do what Liji did not do
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
May 29, 2013 7:36 PM
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Dragon Ball Z
Fist of the North Star
Rurouni Kenshin
Sailor Moon
May 29, 2013 9:25 PM
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Battle angel

Armitage 3

Neon Genesis Evangelion

Inuyasha (believe it or not, a lot of people have seen this anime, and a lot of have followed its lead)
"People die if they get killed" who knew.
May 29, 2013 9:26 PM
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Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu
Saint Seiya
Gunbuster
May 29, 2013 11:35 PM
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pokemon and yugi oh
May 29, 2013 11:51 PM
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CurrentUsername said:
- like Evangeilion did?
Iconic/famous/controversial/mature/critically-acclaimed?
Yes, i agree.
May 30, 2013 12:06 AM
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Space Battleship Yamato
May 30, 2013 3:14 AM
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Appel_stroop said:
DateYutaka said:
Ashita no joe
I want to watch/read this so bad, but both the manga translation and the subbing of the anime seem to be stuck at around 40% through.


Anime's being translated by Saizen Fansubs at the moment, they're currently at 59/79. Their last update was on May 23rd, 2013. So I'm pretty sure they'll continue translating it. (Might take a long time before they reach 79 unfortunately.)
Also Takara Fansubs are translating the sequel Ashita no Joe 2, they're currently at 38/47. Their last update was on May 27th, 2013.
I heard Ashita no Joe 2 has been translated to 44/47 by some other subgroup (or maybe even further), but I can't say for the quality of the subtitles.

Also hasn't this thread been done too many times already?
May 30, 2013 4:52 AM
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FLCL
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Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money.

May 30, 2013 4:57 AM
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FLCL

Nope.
May 30, 2013 5:31 AM
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If you are talking about post Evangelion it'll probably be:

- One piece (modern day DBZ, caused a shift in manga shounen towards adventure)
- Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu (the series that started anime's descend into moe hell)
- Azumanga Daioh (popularized slice of life)
- K-On (ensured that anime can never climb out of moe hell. Also popularized anime music)
- Bakemonogatari (made SHAFT the force they are today)
- Idolmaster games (started all the idol anime crap)
- Fate/Stay night (made everyone take visual novels seriously)
- Code/Geass (caused a shift in Mecha series being dominated by Gundam-style robot porn)
- Uta no☆Prince-sama (made everyone take female anime fans seriously)
- (hopefully) Shingeki no Kyojin

Does anyone know which anime series killed hand drawn cell and started all the computer generated crap? The earliest I can remember is Gatekeepers.
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May 30, 2013 5:41 AM
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Interesting, thanks for the replies , will check everything later when I have more time.
May 30, 2013 6:10 AM
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FallnKnightFakir said:
@DateYutaka
Just because Bebop didn't make much of splash in Japan doesn't mean that it's not very important to the US's anime history. There's a reason Cowboy Bebop still airs on adult swim (the channel that first aired it) over ten years after it first played it in 2001. And pretty much without stop, I don't think they've ever taken it down for more than 6 months, if at all. It's still a lynchpin for their line up and you'd be hard pressed to find someone over here who wouldn't agree to watch an episode at random.
Also, I am a big Sunrise fan.



fallnknight is completely correct. the anime is completely fantastic. It was/is a major hit especially on western shores. and do not forget that cowboy bebop is what introduced us to the famous "Sunrise Smooth" art style. as well as the terrific opening song "Tank!".

If you want to argue about how it was unpopular in Japan you have to realize something. Look at Japanese Culture in 1998 and look at it now. Cowboy Bebop had come out at a time when its content was considered pretty radical and controversial. Thus, making it less popular.

if you want to argue purely on the question asked. A 2004 poll in Newtype USA, the US edition of the Japanese magazine Newtype Cowboy Bebop placed second on the list (after Neon Genesis Evangelion).

In 2006, the Japanese MiniTokyo review claimed, "To say nothing more, it is a masterpiece, a genre defining series that has a right to be held in such high confidence. Not many series can do even one of the elements as well as Cowboy Bebop does, and even fewer can actually get every single solitary aspect of themselves to such a high degree of excellence".

and i couldnt have said it better myself :P. Sorry i just cant stand people talking down on Cowboy Bebop...lol
May 30, 2013 6:12 AM
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Akira...
May 30, 2013 7:06 AM
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...in the past two decades... first to come to mind that haven't already been mentioned...

Ghost in the Shell (original movie)
Spirited Away
May 30, 2013 10:28 AM
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Akira
Macross
Macross : DYRL
Macross Frontier
Bubblegum Crisis
Mobile Suit Gundam
Dirty Pair
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