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Aug 12, 2010 8:25 PM
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Undine#11 being the strongest of all the claymores?? really?

Forming teams sounds cool, Helen's reaction lol receiving her team

Team reunite

The discussion makes me really want to see how they make or replace new claymores

Omg! one of the org. men awakened, what are they plotting!?
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Aug 12, 2010 8:43 PM
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Undine isn't actually the strongest... lol (that's Teresa!)

she's just the most muscled... or is she... hehe...

and she uses dual (two) swords....

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those aren't the Black Coats....

those are three male Awakened Beings from isley's 30 male AB army.... sent to scout/recon/test the 24 Claymores...
Mar 11, 2011 7:31 AM
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Dual Claymores, that's somewhat rare
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Aug 3, 2011 10:32 PM
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DUal Claymores style is cool.

This North battle feels like it's going to be prettttttty scary. They got to beat Isley too?!

(Teams)
Undine: Denve, Zeruda, claudia, Juliana
Vern:: cynthia, Helen, pamela, matilda
Jean: Eliza, amelia, natalie, Diana
Miria: Cuinee, tabatha, yuma,
Flora: Lily, wendy, carla, Clare

Flora seems to have the girls with the prettiest names. (lol)
Sep 8, 2012 1:52 AM
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I wonder why some of the other Claymore's in the party were considered expendable. I get Miria, Clare and the others who have awakened. But Flora, Undine or Veronica? What have they done?
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Dec 11, 2016 8:34 AM
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Let us take a look at the odds of all the buddies ending up on different teams:
Going pick by pick, taking previous picks into account
Not including the 5 team leaders - (3 Buddies, 19 total)

Veronica | Undine | Jean(B) | Flora | Miria(B)

O(3/19) | B(3/18) | O(2/17) | O(2/16) | O(2/15)
B(2/14) | O(1/13) | O(1/12) | O(1/11) | O(1/10)
O(1/9) | O(1/8) | O(1/7) | O(1/6) | O(1/5)
O(1/4) | O(1/3) | O(1/2) | B(1/1)


Odds that all of the buddies end up separate teams:

(3/19)*(12/14)*(8/9)*(3/4) = 9.02% +
(16/19)*(2/14)*(8/9)*(3/4) = 8.02% +
(16/19)*(12/14)*(1/9)*(3/4) = 6.02% +
(16/19)*(12/14)*(8/9)*(1/4) = 16.04% +
= 39.10% Veronica picks only 1 buddy.

(3/18)*(12/13)*(7/8)*(2/3) = 8.97% +
(15/18)*(1/13)*(7/8)*(2/3) = 3.74% +
(15/18)*(12/13)*(1/8)*(2/3) = 6.41% +
(15/18)*(12/13)*(7/8)*(1/3) = 22.44% +
= 41.56% Undine picks only 1 buddy.

(15/17)*(11/12)*(6/7)*(1/2)
= 34.66% Jean picks 0 buddies.

(2/16)*(10/11)*(5/6)*(0/1) = 0.00% +
(14/16)*(1/11)*(5/6)*(0/1) = 0.00% +
(14/16)*(10/11)*(1/6)*(0/1) = 0.00% +
(14/16)*(10/11)*(5/6)*(1/1) = 79.55% +
= 79.55% Flora picks only 1 buddy.

(13/15)*(9/10)*(4/5)
= 62.40% Miria picks 0 buddies.


TOTAL ODDS: 0.3910*0.4156*0.3466*0.7955*0.6240
= 2.8% That all 5 of them end up on Separate groups.

Or ~ 100% chance if taking plot convenience into account.

IMPORTANT: I also realize that these odds only apply if the 5 leaders were picking randomly, but I already wasted an hour and am not deleting this T_T. Hopefully someone will appreciate the numbers... :(
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May 26, 2017 12:38 PM
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24 claymores in the same place O_O
Aug 10, 2019 6:58 PM
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The Organization is showing up its own face. They can't deceive our protagonists, they know what the org wants. Still, I see no way out for them. I foresee many deaths from now on.
Feb 1, 2020 7:08 PM
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Things don't look good to the Claymores.

A shame that Clare didn't got in Mira's team.
Feb 25, 2020 7:48 AM

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Count on Helen to brighten up the mood.
Jul 1, 2022 3:44 AM

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Damn this battle is going to be sick!!
Sorry for my english xD!

RIP Kentaro Miura :(
RIP Akira Toriyama :(

Jul 3, 1:08 AM

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no flip flopper raki in this arc


that's nice
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There she is, Undine aka MUSCLE MOMMY!

Ironic how Helen points out the Claymore’s tendencies to argue when she did the exact same thing to Clare when they first met hahah


Late observation but the fact that the Yoma’s blood turns normal girls into feared half breed blond monsters is a interesting twist to the usual association of that color with the angelic and holy. I'm hoping that the source of the blood gets explained eventually.


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