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Jul 19, 3:44 AM
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@Kimurah So yeah, you are completely crazy....

First of all, GQuuuuuuX is equivalent to EVA in quality and style. I wonder if it was like that during EVA's release(Death threats showcased during End of EVA). Were staff also rolling out of laughter, reading "fans" messages? Actually, people hating on GQuuuuuuX can be named "false newtypes", or "enhanced humans"...

You cannot recognize a bajillion of mistakes in WfM. Witch was focused on Twitter hype, throwing away cliffhangers episode after episode. And SJWs are simply lying in echo chambers about it, just like lying about everything in their lives. BTW, can you tell me why Suletta wasn't prepared by Prospera as a weapon prior to going to school? I just want to hear your explanation.

Nyan and Xavier made a plan beforehand, it was showcased. Gundam is a reference to...depends on how "true" a newtype you are...

Yes, we have documented info that WfM was made for a "modern western audience" and successfully baited them into watching, and females too, obviously.

You are a crazy SJW dude. Everything you see is a lie.

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notense said:
can you tell me why Suletta wasn't prepared by Prospera as a weapon prior to going to school? I just want to hear your explanation.


That's actually really simple, it's explained quite clearly in the show itself. Prospera's plan did not initially call for the violence that followed. Her original plan was actually:


That's why Suletta was never prepared as a weapon, she was never meant to be. While Prospera loved Suletta to some degree, at the end of the day she was just a disposable pawn in her grand plan, Prospera had no real use for her outside of the dueling game.
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@notense
notense said:
can you tell me why Suletta wasn't prepared by Prospera as a weapon prior to going to school? I just want to hear your explanation.


That's actually really simple, it's explained quite clearly in the show itself. Prospera's plan did not initially call for the violence that followed. Her original plan was actually:


That's why Suletta was never prepared as a weapon, she was never meant to be. While Prospera loved Suletta to some degree, at the end of the day she was just a disposable pawn in her grand plan, Prospera had no real use for her outside of the dueling game.
@deltahalo241 I know that part of explanation, i'm talking about different thing and i'm asking this crazy person specifically.
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ToumaTachibana said:
It doesn't matter the length, what its important its how its executed.


To which G-Cucks is downright terrible. It might not be the worst Gundam in history (still debatable), but it definitely earned it's place as a terrible trainwreck with nothing but asspulls and tons of "fill in the gaps by the audience" on piss poor storytelling. Not to mention, that the only thing holding it together was the nostalgia factor.

ToumaTachibana said:
The fact, TWFM is rated much higher while GQuuuuuuX annoy me.


Good. Stay mad. Unlike the vast majority you obviously can't recognize basic but good direction and character writing which Witch from Mercury had on most of it's running time. Like someone else said in a previous post, Witch was mostly focused on family and how it affected most of the cast, Myorine living at the shadow of her oppressive father, Zuletta being a project from Prospera, and even Jetturk finding it's own way neglecting his legacy. The last quarter of the series definitely feels rushed, but in terms of character writing and plot progression for most of it's run time was really well done. Unlike G-Cucks where it's main cast have the personality of a cardboard cutout with no aspirations or direction, lets not even go into details o how the story is just pushed forward on nothing but nostalgia factor rather than a well weaved story.


ToumaTachibana said:
GQuuuuuuX doesn't waste time and it DOESN'T HAVE ASSPULLS


Ah ha ha ha, Please tell me you're a comedian, because this gave me a hefty laugh. You're telling me that Char going from a Gundam pilot to some nuclear scientist in a few years (or it's equivalent) that built in secret a doomsday device isn't an asspull? How about Nyaan being ejected by the G-Fred and caught by Shuji's arm completely unharmed at such great speeds and force. How about Xavier that miraculously knew where Nyaan was in dire danger because Emilio was an actual spy that nobody but the most brilliant detective like Nyaan uncovered with a single question about cakes. Or the magical Gundam that grew ten times it's size because...

ToumaTachibana said:
while TWFM contains asspulls since the first episode and 99% of people obviously only watch it for the yuri rather than the characters.


You've got some actually documented poll with real numbers about a 99% of it's audience watching it just because for the yuri? Or are you talking out of your ass? You have nothing and you're just barfing numbers arbitrarily. Hard to take your angry rant seriously with such bogus data.

ToumaTachibana said:
GQuuuuuuX is the best Gundam ever made!


ROFL. Fanboy detected, argument invalid.
@Kimurah DAAAAM mr. sub-garbage dump.

Kimurah:
A debate is formed by two parties bringing compelling arguments. So far in all this thread you've only thrown out childish handslaps followed by NO-U kind of retorts. You're even denying the most blatant key point of the series, the whole love triangle, Machu & Nyaan following Shuuji to the end of the world because they love his bland soulless carcass kira-kira newtype BS. Nyaan yearning for Shuuji's protection asking him to run away by themselves or Machu's kiss after she rebels against him are clear depictions of love towards the bland blank slate of male main protagonist.

Your arguments remind me of Republicans after being fact checked still doing their senseless and empty tantrums.

Kimurah: Wow

Are you by any chance a conjoined twin with @RobertRobert sharing their only braincell? It's uncanny the ability of both of you to babbler circumlocution bullshit for the sake of thinking you peeps have said anything worth of value. Not to mention your mutual asskissing.

Kimurah:Typical ignorant MAL no-lifer that thinks that scores are absolute. It's laughable how you try to make a retort with a cheap strawman "bUt yUo gAv3 X aNiMe a ZYX rAtInG, yOur aRgUmeNt iS iNvaLiD". You had to browse thru my anime history list like a butthurt child looking for something to use as dirt on me, quite pathetic (just like republicans used Hunter's Biden laptop as a rebutal for everything). My argument that you act like a republican/MAGA-hat that lacks the ability to do a direct retort without sidetracking pretty much stands.

Hilarious and hypocrite from your behalf claiming that you're wasting your time replying to people like me. Yet I know you'll keep replying nonsense because you like to have the last word and love to rake posts.



IT WAS YOU WOLFYYYYYYY!!!!!! MY DEAR PUPPY!!!!!!! WHY ARE YOU CHANGED YOUR NAME???!?!?!?
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notense said:
First of all, GQuuuuuuX is equivalent to EVA in quality and style. I wonder if it was like that during EVA's release(Death threats showcased during End of EVA). Were staff also rolling out of laughter, reading "fans" messages? Actually, people hating on GQuuuuuuX can be named "false newtypes", or "enhanced humans"...


Comparing it to EVA isn't some sort of flex, since the original EVA was a very low budget project with tons of cutting corners with animation loops, not to mention the emo writing from a hackjob like Anno that was diagnosed with crippling depression (he did know his audience quite well to sell them a hut as a mansion). Secondly your loud barking about death threats on AVA staff is purely whataboutism to puff up your loud fanboy barking. Last, people who dislike G-cucks don't give a fuck what a turd of a fanboy like you call us.

notense said:
You cannot recognize a bajillion of mistakes in WfM. Witch was focused on Twitter hype, throwing away cliffhangers episode after episode. And SJWs are simply lying in echo chambers about it, just like lying about everything in their lives. BTW, can you tell me why Suletta wasn't prepared by Prospera as a weapon prior to going to school? I just want to hear your explanation.


Never said that Witch from Mercury was flawless. I just laughed at the other guy claiming that G-cucks didn't have asspulls, which it had in surplus, and it's only carried by nostalgia glasses, most of G-cucks makes very little sense in the way the story is unfold. You fanboys are just like republicans using any kind of deflection in order to have something to debate, like Hunter's Biden laptop, Hilary's emails and in this case Witch from Mercury having a higher score with a way bigger number of people who rated (I love to see everyday G-Cucks score going down further and further).

notense said:
Nyan and Xavier made a plan beforehand, it was showcased.


This is completely false. See, you're just as obtuse and delusional like other fanboys. THEY NEVER PLANNED ANYTHING, it was a cop out from the director to just add an odd pause and let the mouthbreathing fanboys like you to "imagine" whatever they want in order to fill a hole in their massive passage of BAD WRITING.

notense said:
Yes, we have documented info that WfM was made for a "modern western audience" and successfully baited them into watching, and females too, obviously.


Release the Epstein files.

I mean, release such an "important" piece of information that it's totally irrelevant to people like me who's not a dickridding fanboy.

notense said:

You are a crazy SJW dude. Everything you see is a lie.


Mouthbreathers like you don't even know what SJW stands for and use it as some sort of insult. Your whole ignorance is just a satisfying piece of irony. Keep digging yourself even further, your fanboy dick sucking clown acts are quite amusing.

I personally chuckled at the "everything you see is a lie". This is a true MAGAT brainwashed move where they think their delusional alternate reality is real life.

notense said:
IT WAS YOU WOLFYYYYYYY!!!!!! MY DEAR PUPPY!!!!!!! WHY ARE YOU CHANGED YOUR NAME???!?!?!?


Imagine being this utterly mentally challenged and butthurt that you had to make two different posts to unleash your fanboy angst towards someone that doesn't like a cartoon that you don't even own or have any rights about it. Webber should add a picture of yourself on the definition of FANBOY.

Like I said, keep digging yourself even further. You're pathetic and a laughing stock.
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notense said:
First of all, GQuuuuuuX is equivalent to EVA in quality and style. I wonder if it was like that during EVA's release(Death threats showcased during End of EVA). Were staff also rolling out of laughter, reading "fans" messages? Actually, people hating on GQuuuuuuX can be named "false newtypes", or "enhanced humans"...


Comparing it to EVA isn't some sort of flex, since the original EVA was a very low budget project with tons of cutting corners with animation loops, not to mention the emo writing from a hackjob like Anno that was diagnosed with crippling depression (he did know his audience quite well to sell them a hut as a mansion). Secondly your loud barking about death threats on AVA staff is purely whataboutism to puff up your loud fanboy barking. Last, people who dislike G-cucks don't give a fuck what a turd of a fanboy like you call us.

notense said:
You cannot recognize a bajillion of mistakes in WfM. Witch was focused on Twitter hype, throwing away cliffhangers episode after episode. And SJWs are simply lying in echo chambers about it, just like lying about everything in their lives. BTW, can you tell me why Suletta wasn't prepared by Prospera as a weapon prior to going to school? I just want to hear your explanation.


Never said that Witch from Mercury was flawless. I just laughed at the other guy claiming that G-cucks didn't have asspulls, which it had in surplus, and it's only carried by nostalgia glasses, most of G-cucks makes very little sense in the way the story is unfold. You fanboys are just like republicans using any kind of deflection in order to have something to debate, like Hunter's Biden laptop, Hilary's emails and in this case Witch from Mercury having a higher score with a way bigger number of people who rated (I love to see everyday G-Cucks score going down further and further).

notense said:
Nyan and Xavier made a plan beforehand, it was showcased.


This is completely false. See, you're just as obtuse and delusional like other fanboys. THEY NEVER PLANNED ANYTHING, it was a cop out from the director to just add an odd pause and let the mouthbreathing fanboys like you to "imagine" whatever they want in order to fill a hole in their massive passage of BAD WRITING.

notense said:
Yes, we have documented info that WfM was made for a "modern western audience" and successfully baited them into watching, and females too, obviously.


Release the Epstein files.

I mean, release such an "important" piece of information that it's totally irrelevant to people like me who's not a dickridding fanboy.

notense said:

You are a crazy SJW dude. Everything you see is a lie.


Mouthbreathers like you don't even know what SJW stands for and use it as some sort of insult. Your whole ignorance is just a satisfying piece of irony. Keep digging yourself even further, your fanboy dick sucking clown acts are quite amusing.

I personally chuckled at the "everything you see is a lie". This is a true MAGAT brainwashed move where they think their delusional alternate reality is real life.

notense said:
IT WAS YOU WOLFYYYYYYY!!!!!! MY DEAR PUPPY!!!!!!! WHY ARE YOU CHANGED YOUR NAME???!?!?!?


Imagine being this utterly mentally challenged and butthurt that you had to make two different posts to unleash your fanboy angst towards someone that doesn't like a cartoon that you don't even own or have any rights about it. Webber should add a picture of yourself on the definition of FANBOY.

Like I said, keep digging yourself even further. You're pathetic and a laughing stock.
@Kimurah Lowlife, your words don't matter. Dance for me baby.
Jul 24, 3:15 PM
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ToumaTachibana said:
It doesn't matter the length, what its important its how its executed.


To which G-Cucks is downright terrible. It might not be the worst Gundam in history (still debatable), but it definitely earned it's place as a terrible trainwreck with nothing but asspulls and tons of "fill in the gaps by the audience" on piss poor storytelling. Not to mention, that the only thing holding it together was the nostalgia factor.

ToumaTachibana said:
The fact, TWFM is rated much higher while GQuuuuuuX annoy me.


Good. Stay mad. Unlike the vast majority you obviously can't recognize basic but good direction and character writing which Witch from Mercury had on most of it's running time. Like someone else said in a previous post, Witch was mostly focused on family and how it affected most of the cast, Myorine living at the shadow of her oppressive father, Zuletta being a project from Prospera, and even Jetturk finding it's own way neglecting his legacy. The last quarter of the series definitely feels rushed, but in terms of character writing and plot progression for most of it's run time was really well done. Unlike G-Cucks where it's main cast have the personality of a cardboard cutout with no aspirations or direction, lets not even go into details o how the story is just pushed forward on nothing but nostalgia factor rather than a well weaved story.


ToumaTachibana said:
GQuuuuuuX doesn't waste time and it DOESN'T HAVE ASSPULLS


Ah ha ha ha, Please tell me you're a comedian, because this gave me a hefty laugh. You're telling me that Char going from a Gundam pilot to some nuclear scientist in a few years (or it's equivalent) that built in secret a doomsday device isn't an asspull? How about Nyaan being ejected by the G-Fred and caught by Shuji's arm completely unharmed at such great speeds and force. How about Xavier that miraculously knew where Nyaan was in dire danger because Emilio was an actual spy that nobody but the most brilliant detective like Nyaan uncovered with a single question about cakes. Or the magical Gundam that grew ten times it's size because...

ToumaTachibana said:
while TWFM contains asspulls since the first episode and 99% of people obviously only watch it for the yuri rather than the characters.


You've got some actually documented poll with real numbers about a 99% of it's audience watching it just because for the yuri? Or are you talking out of your ass? You have nothing and you're just barfing numbers arbitrarily. Hard to take your angry rant seriously with such bogus data.

ToumaTachibana said:
GQuuuuuuX is the best Gundam ever made!


ROFL. Fanboy detected, argument invalid.
@Kimurah Dude, no need to be agressive. First, I don't need to show you a "documented poll" to explain something so obvious, it's like asking for proof for saying the sky is blue. Most people who like TWFM only watched it for the yuri and nothing more, do you even remember the death threats against Sunrise at the end? very few watched it for other things. While its true what you mentioned about the family, most people weren't paying attention for such themes, they were more interesed in both female characters being married at the end of the series and yuri scenes.

Actually the yuri stuff is the only thing everyone remember TWFM now, its rare if someone remember only TWFM for the Gundam unique aspect, the school setting or even the opening. A strong series will be remembered for important stuff like GQuuuuuuX is going to be rememebered for being the first explicit what if UC, constant references and Evangelion inspiration, not because the female characters. I wasn't when GQuuuuuuX was airing but you can read from the thread discussions or even social media, a lot of people were for the yuri between the female characters but started to hate it when they were in love with the same guy.

Gundam was never a top-tier quality series in general, it wasn't in the 80s and 90s and they are not going to be except, at least from my part, from this show. So your examples can be answered just looking at the original show logic, Char won't be able to join the Zeon Army without people knowing his true identity which in fact, Kycilia realized it but she doesn't care. The Origin explination wasn't necessary in my opinion and its a bit convenient. In this Anime, I assumed Char was a nuclear scientist assistant rather than a full-nuclear scientist like the other two people so I alwayas assumed he just secretly changed the inner working of the machine to make the Rose of Sharon disappear from their worlds rather what are you claiming. He could do such things since he was under other alias, other appareance, he wasn't fully in charge and obviously having other personality to avoid people suspecting him. How Xavier knew where Nyaan was in danger is left to interpretation, either remember he's a Newtype too so he could felt it or Nyaan asking him about the cake, the scene was cut on purpose so we don't know what happened so most likely Nyaan told Xavier about the possible poison in the cake but he didn't believe her so he went there to realize she was correct. Or better an combination of both things. The other 3 "mistakes" are just Newtype things...

Edit: why tf you mention US politics here? I'm not even American. The world doesn't revolves around US and such comparasion is out of place lol. TWFM isn't the first show of being popular only for the yuri. A lot of Anime are popular for animation, ships, openings, etc. I have no idea of why complaining about TWFM having a higher score is comparable to America politics? What.



ToumaTachibanaJul 24, 3:33 PM
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@Kimurah Dude, no need to be agressive. First, I don't need to show you a "documented poll" to explain something so obvious, it's like asking for proof for saying the sky is blue. Most people who like TWFM only watched it for the yuri and nothing more, do you even remember the death threats against Sunrise at the end? very few watched it for other things. While its true what you mentioned about the family, most people weren't paying attention for such themes, they were more interesed in both female characters being married at the end of the series and yuri scenes.

Actually the yuri stuff is the only thing everyone remember TWFM now, its rare if someone remember only TWFM for the Gundam unique aspect, the school setting or even the opening. A strong series will be remembered for important stuff like GQuuuuuuX is going to be rememebered for being the first explicit what if UC, constant references and Evangelion inspiration, not because the female characters. I wasn't when GQuuuuuuX was airing but you can read from the thread discussions or even social media, a lot of people were for the yuri between the female characters but started to hate it when they were in love with the same guy.

Gundam was never a top-tier quality series in general, it wasn't in the 80s and 90s and they are not going to be except, at least from my part, from this show. So your examples can be answered just looking at the original show logic, Char won't be able to join the Zeon Army without people knowing his true identity which in fact, Kycilia realized it but she doesn't care. The Origin explination wasn't necessary in my opinion and its a bit convenient. In this Anime, I assumed Char was a nuclear scientist assistant rather than a full-nuclear scientist like the other two people so I alwayas assumed he just secretly changed the inner working of the machine to make the Rose of Sharon disappear from their worlds rather what are you claiming. He could do such things since he was under other alias, other appareance, he wasn't fully in charge and obviously having other personality to avoid people suspecting him. How Xavier knew where Nyaan was in danger is left to interpretation, either remember he's a Newtype too so he could felt it or Nyaan asking him about the cake, the scene was cut on purpose so we don't know what happened so most likely Nyaan told Xavier about the possible poison in the cake but he didn't believe her so he went there to realize she was correct. Or better an combination of both things. The other 3 "mistakes" are just Newtype things...

Edit: why tf you mention US politics here? I'm not even American. The world doesn't revolves around US and such comparasion is out of place lol. TWFM isn't the first show of being popular only for the yuri. A lot of Anime are popular for animation, ships, openings, etc. I have no idea of why complaining about TWFM having a higher score is comparable to America politics? What.



@ToumaTachibana I like how you're truly don't understand how pathetic you make Gquuuuuux look here.

"All people remember about WFM is the relationship between it's main characters! But people will remember Gquuuuuux for referencing other sfuff!".

Do you really not get it?
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@ToumaTachibana I like how you're truly don't understand how pathetic you make Gquuuuuux look here.

"All people remember about WFM is the relationship between it's main characters! But people will remember Gquuuuuux for referencing other sfuff!".

Do you really not get it?
@JewelRunner Go to watch Anime first. Do you really not get it?

Also, you're saying things I never said. I said ppl only remember WFM for the yuri, not for the plot, themes or characters. Same shit with Mirai Nikki with the yandere. Gquuuuuux's main characters are far from being bad but for people who already watched the UC Gundam already like me are originally for the references and how an alternative UC take place with new characters. I don't have issues with the main characters, in fact their development is very good, so stop saying things I never said.

Anyway you have 0 Anime watched but just come here to bait people like you are doing it right now. I wonder why wasting time like this.
ToumaTachibanaJul 24, 4:17 PM
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@ToumaTachibana I like how you're truly don't understand how pathetic you make Gquuuuuux look here.

"All people remember about WFM is the relationship between it's main characters! But people will remember Gquuuuuux for referencing other sfuff!".

Do you really not get it?
@JewelRunner Damn doggie, I would think you're using an LLM bot, but you are too inept for that...

@Kimurah Babe, is it also you? https://old.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/1m7d4mw/get_better_at_picking_up_homophobic_dogwhistles_i/
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@JewelRunner Go to watch Anime first. Do you really not get it?

Also, you're saying things I never said. I said ppl only remember WFM for the yuri, not for the plot, themes or characters. Same shit with Mirai Nikki with the yandere. Gquuuuuux's main characters are far from being bad but for people who already watched the UC Gundam already like me are originally for the references and how an alternative UC take place with new characters. I don't have issues with the main characters, in fact their development is very good, so stop saying things I never said.

Anyway you have 0 Anime watched but just come here to bait people like you are doing it right now. I wonder why wasting time like this.
@ToumaTachibana Despite how you try to make it look the Yuri is the relationship between the two main characters of the series, and a central focus of the show, not some irrelevant side thing, if people remember WFM for that then it did it's job.

Also first of all Gquuuuuux's main characters aren't good, they're almost entirely irrelevant to the plot for 99% of the show, have no development or depth, and the bare minimum of characterization, well Machu and Nyaan do, Shuji doesn't even have that.

And second "saying things I never said." did you not read your own post?
"Actually the yuri stuff is the only thing everyone remember TWFM now, its rare if someone remember only TWFM for the Gundam unique aspect, the school setting or even the opening. A strong series will be remembered for important stuff like GQuuuuuuX is going to be rememebered for being the first explicit what if UC, constant references and Evangelion inspiration, not because the female characters. "

You quite literally said WFM will be remembered for the relationship between it's main characters and Gquuuuuux well he remembered for making references.

And I'm not baiting because you're incapable making a counter argument.
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The issue isn't the what if or the fact that it's inspired from the og UC. My main issue with the show (aside from the terrible pacing) is how in the end it's nothing more than an amalgam of references a nostalgia where ppl spend more time to try to spot all the ref than really caring for the plot.

It could have been a great show since there are many interesting ideas in it but if you look at it on the eve of the final episode, most of it is pretty useless and done poorly for the benefit of fangasming.

I usually never say no to a small reference here and there but I was already overdosing halfway through and the skeletton of the story slowly crumbled episode after episode. There is no real relationship between characters, half of them are barely memorable and in the end there is not much stakes or interest in them since they kinda fall flat.

Also I don't think trying to globally fit the plot of three 50-episode series + 1 movie + "OG" content in the span of 12 episodes was the smartest choice.

For the 1999 OVA part I don't think ppl from that time would have let pass such an anime it this state but I'm not this world's truth :D


terrible pacing did you say? just like 3-episode row fiiler in WFM or fiiler based lifeforms (such as Atra) featured but never mentioned about Calamity War in IBO S1?
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It says so much how people who defend Gquuuuuux can never do so by actually defending the series on it's own merits, it's jut "look at what this other thing did!".
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It says so much how people who defend Gquuuuuux can never do so by actually defending the series on it's own merits, it's jut "look at what this other thing did!".
@JewelRunner It is by design, Wolfy. It created in a way so we can laugh at people not understanding it. Just like Evangelion. Although, if you're a 0079 fan, you should know why it's good by default...
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I thought it was a good series, maybe a bit trippy. But the main issue is that it baits people into thinking that they don't have to watch any of the original 0079 stuff with the first few episodes, and if you haven't watched any of the one year war stuff or Char's counter attack it'll severly impact your enjoyment of this anime in subsquent episodes. Also that I found that Machu and Nyann became irrelevant characters once Lalah and Char came into the picture imo.

I think overall this is an anime for the hardcore gundam fans which might come off as a bit deceptive since I don't think any of the promotional material communicated that.
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@Kimurah So yeah, you are completely crazy....

First of all, GQuuuuuuX is equivalent to EVA in quality and style. I wonder if it was like that during EVA's release(Death threats showcased during End of EVA). Were staff also rolling out of laughter, reading "fans" messages? Actually, people hating on GQuuuuuuX can be named "false newtypes", or "enhanced humans"...

You cannot recognize a bajillion of mistakes in WfM. Witch was focused on Twitter hype, throwing away cliffhangers episode after episode. And SJWs are simply lying in echo chambers about it, just like lying about everything in their lives. BTW, can you tell me why Suletta wasn't prepared by Prospera as a weapon prior to going to school? I just want to hear your explanation.

Nyan and Xavier made a plan beforehand, it was showcased. Gundam is a reference to...depends on how "true" a newtype you are...

Yes, we have documented info that WfM was made for a "modern western audience" and successfully baited them into watching, and females too, obviously.

You are a crazy SJW dude. Everything you see is a lie.

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@Kimurah So yeah, you are completely crazy....

First of all, GQuuuuuuX is equivalent to EVA in quality and style


Yeah... no. This anime is nowhere near the 10th of the original or remakes' quality in every aspect. Eva is full of well developed characters. It was brimming with it. Every episode is worth disecting and analyzing. The lore was deep and original and doesn't rely on nostalgia. The themes are dark and mature. The opening legendary.

Seriously Evangelion is incomparable and to do so with this anime is a crime worthy of a colony drop.
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@Kimurah So yeah, you are completely crazy....

First of all, GQuuuuuuX is equivalent to EVA in quality and style


Yeah... no. This anime is nowhere near the 10th of the original or remakes' quality in every aspect. Eva is full of well developed characters. It was brimming with it. Every episode is worth disecting and analyzing. The lore was deep and original and doesn't rely on nostalgia. The themes are dark and mature. The opening legendary.

Seriously Evangelion is incomparable and to do so with this anime is a crime worthy of a colony drop.
@nameme137 Not really. Evangelion is full of references, specifically to Ultraman. Gundam too. You probably don't know those references? It's just a different director, with a different style. The plot of GQuuuuuuX is extremely original, i think it's the only one in existence? Evangelion has lots of filler and boring episodes, like the lava episode or single-character drama episodes. It's also full of boring scenes due to the low budget, like the train scene or elevator scene. The Themes of GQuuuuuuX are amazing, and the overall message is pretty similar to EVA. The opening of GQuuuuuuX is pretty fun, specifically the text and original video. I think you're confusing viral ultra-popularity with quality.
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lol. at this point I don't know if you're trolling by posting opposite of your actual opinion or you really believe what you are saying. if it's the latter then i do respect your opinion and if you truly enjoy this anime then good for you.

it is also my humble opinion that you are not mature enough to understand more complex, mature and deeper animes like Evangelion or even the original gundam that has more to it underneath 2 giant entities fighting each other. maybe you are too young or just started watching anime.

First there is a huge difference with using references as a homage or inspiration feom other works and just blatantly using reference to nostalgia bait viewers to evoke a reaction of "i know what that reference is from". an example would be The Matrix. Matrix is heavily influenced by animes like Ghost in the Shell and Akira (like most things are) but matrix uses these works as inspiration so well that it is not just defined by the things references. It is it's own thing. On the other side of the spectrum is Deadpool and Wolverine. This movie is just easter egg the movie it cannot stand without the movies that came before it. Gquuuuuux is Deadpool and Wolverine.

Second if this is your first time watching a multiverse story then I envy you. Multiverse and alternate timeline has been plauging the entertainment industry for sometime now. and no, it is not original. Wanda Vision, steins gate, Re Zero, Madoka, Erased, Final Fantasy VII remake and the first one I thought of after watching GQuuuuuux - Noin.

Lastly to say that the message and theme of eva and gqux is just plain baffling to me. Eva deals with domestic abuse, trauma, and other horrible stuff that people experiences everyday and at the very end the message is these struggles are a part of life and to live in a perfect world without any struggle isn't living. in the end Shinji chose to live in the real world despite all of it's flaws. that is some heavy fcking stuff. What is Gqux's themes and message? Love and friendship conquers all, Every conflict can be resolved if we just talked it out.

Again if you enjoy the show then kudos. But the quality between this and Eva is lightyears apart.
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lol. at this point I don't know if you're trolling by posting opposite of your actual opinion or you really believe what you are saying. if it's the latter then i do respect your opinion and if you truly enjoy this anime then good for you.

it is also my humble opinion that you are not mature enough to understand more complex, mature and deeper animes like Evangelion or even the original gundam that has more to it underneath 2 giant entities fighting each other. maybe you are too young or just started watching anime.

First there is a huge difference with using references as a homage or inspiration feom other works and just blatantly using reference to nostalgia bait viewers to evoke a reaction of "i know what that reference is from". an example would be The Matrix. Matrix is heavily influenced by animes like Ghost in the Shell and Akira (like most things are) but matrix uses these works as inspiration so well that it is not just defined by the things references. It is it's own thing. On the other side of the spectrum is Deadpool and Wolverine. This movie is just easter egg the movie it cannot stand without the movies that came before it. Gquuuuuux is Deadpool and Wolverine.

Second if this is your first time watching a multiverse story then I envy you. Multiverse and alternate timeline has been plauging the entertainment industry for sometime now. and no, it is not original. Wanda Vision, steins gate, Re Zero, Madoka, Erased, Final Fantasy VII remake and the first one I thought of after watching GQuuuuuux - Noin.

Lastly to say that the message and theme of eva and gqux is just plain baffling to me. Eva deals with domestic abuse, trauma, and other horrible stuff that people experiences everyday and at the very end the message is these struggles are a part of life and to live in a perfect world without any struggle isn't living. in the end Shinji chose to live in the real world despite all of it's flaws. that is some heavy fcking stuff. What is Gqux's themes and message? Love and friendship conquers all, Every conflict can be resolved if we just talked it out.

Again if you enjoy the show then kudos. But the quality between this and Eva is lightyears apart.
@nameme137 Ehh i don't think you really understand what you're talking about. My posts are very consistent and in line with what's actually happening within shows. Firstly, it is wrong to appeal to age, that's just dumb.

GQuuuuuuX has various types of references, it's better than both EVA and Matrix at it. By design it's a 0079 work, so it's using it's universe. Then there are additional references on top of that. EVA is literally copy-pasting Ultraman, Gundam, Cyber City Oedo?, Giant Robo?, Ideon, it's the Anno and Gainax style, simply copy-pasting stuff without much thought. You can see it in his live-action movies. Genshin, Tarantino doing stuff like that. I'm not talking about just the multiverse, i mean entirety of the work.

The main message of GQuuuuuuX = do not listen to those blockheaded masses, live freely. Pretty in line with EVA's message to Shinji and a similar joke about Otaku. It's also based on everyday real-life problems. GQuuuuuuX just hasn't gotten viral popularity and was too successful in what it's doing.
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@nameme137 Ehh i don't think you really understand what you're talking about. My posts are very consistent and in line with what's actually happening within shows. Firstly, it is wrong to appeal to age, that's just dumb.

GQuuuuuuX has various types of references, it's better than both EVA and Matrix at it. By design it's a 0079 work, so it's using it's universe. Then there are additional references on top of that. EVA is literally copy-pasting Ultraman, Gundam, Cyber City Oedo?, Giant Robo?, Ideon, it's the Anno and Gainax style, simply copy-pasting stuff without much thought. You can see it in his live-action movies. Genshin, Tarantino doing stuff like that. I'm not talking about just the multiverse, i mean entirety of the work.

The main message of GQuuuuuuX = do not listen to those blockheaded masses, live freely. Pretty in line with EVA's message to Shinji and a similar joke about Otaku. It's also based on everyday real-life problems. GQuuuuuuX just hasn't gotten viral popularity and was too successful in what it's doing.
@notense Lol. really everything about this post is so bad it's hilarious.

notense said:
GQuuuuuuX has various types of references, it's better than both EVA and Matrix at it. By design it's a 0079 work, so it's using it's universe. Then there are additional references on top of that.


That's exactly the problem. All GQux it does is reference stuff from 79 and other anime and it's doing it not as an inspiration but blatant nostalgia bait. IE using Unit 1 color scheme for GFreD.

notense said:
EVA is literally copy-pasting Ultraman, Gundam, Cyber City Oedo?, Giant Robo?, Ideon,


All you did was list mecha and giant robo animes haha. A grade school student can make a better argument than that.

notense said:
I'm not talking about just the multiverse, i mean entirety of the work.


The multiverse is the core conflict of the story which again has already been done countless time that alone makes it very unoriginal. But let's look at it as a whole. As a whole GQux is set on an alternate UC timeline, which reuses many of it's beloved characters and it's concepts. So which of that is original again?

notense said:
The main message of GQuuuuuuX = do not listen to those blockheaded masses, live freely


Oh yeahh. very deep and thought provoking definitely par and similar to EVA.

notense said:
Pretty in line with EVA's message to Shinji


What even is this? How is this the message of Evangelion? I think I missed an episode or two because this is no way related to EVA and if this is how you interpret that anime I don't even know what to think.

notense said:
It's also based on everyday real-life problems.


You keep saying things without elaborating or giving specific examples. What everyday real-life problems does GQux tackle with it's themes?

Again I would like to elaborate that I do not have problem with you loving GQuuuuuux. I rated it 4 which is bad but that's me.What I found fascinating is comparing it to Evangelion and insisting that they are equal in quality. I think EVA is a masterpiece that reflects the author's state of mind during it's inception and GQuuuuuux is a product made to appeal to an audience in order to rake in some quick buck. And every time you try to prove your point it just makes it clear to me that your just hatin on EVA just because a lot of people love it, you want to go against the flow. In short your a hipster.
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@notense Lol. really everything about this post is so bad it's hilarious.

notense said:
GQuuuuuuX has various types of references, it's better than both EVA and Matrix at it. By design it's a 0079 work, so it's using it's universe. Then there are additional references on top of that.


That's exactly the problem. All GQux it does is reference stuff from 79 and other anime and it's doing it not as an inspiration but blatant nostalgia bait. IE using Unit 1 color scheme for GFreD.

notense said:
EVA is literally copy-pasting Ultraman, Gundam, Cyber City Oedo?, Giant Robo?, Ideon,


All you did was list mecha and giant robo animes haha. A grade school student can make a better argument than that.

notense said:
I'm not talking about just the multiverse, i mean entirety of the work.


The multiverse is the core conflict of the story which again has already been done countless time that alone makes it very unoriginal. But let's look at it as a whole. As a whole GQux is set on an alternate UC timeline, which reuses many of it's beloved characters and it's concepts. So which of that is original again?

notense said:
The main message of GQuuuuuuX = do not listen to those blockheaded masses, live freely


Oh yeahh. very deep and thought provoking definitely par and similar to EVA.

notense said:
Pretty in line with EVA's message to Shinji


What even is this? How is this the message of Evangelion? I think I missed an episode or two because this is no way related to EVA and if this is how you interpret that anime I don't even know what to think.

notense said:
It's also based on everyday real-life problems.


You keep saying things without elaborating or giving specific examples. What everyday real-life problems does GQux tackle with it's themes?

Again I would like to elaborate that I do not have problem with you loving GQuuuuuux. I rated it 4 which is bad but that's me.What I found fascinating is comparing it to Evangelion and insisting that they are equal in quality. I think EVA is a masterpiece that reflects the author's state of mind during it's inception and GQuuuuuux is a product made to appeal to an audience in order to rake in some quick buck. And every time you try to prove your point it just makes it clear to me that your just hatin on EVA just because a lot of people love it, you want to go against the flow. In short your a hipster.
@nameme137 I explained everything to you rather in-depth. It seems that you're a completely inadequate person. I don't really care about your words anymore. You are just too dumb to understand it or even talk normally.
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Not really. All the you can muster is GQuuuuuux did it better without explaining why.

For example: why do you think the story is "extremely" original? When I asked you this, you just shrugged it off without giving a definite answer.
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Not really. All the you can muster is GQuuuuuux did it better without explaining why.

For example: why do you think the story is "extremely" original? When I asked you this, you just shrugged it off without giving a definite answer.
@nameme137 I answered on every one of your EVA comparisons directly. Do you want me to feed you the answer on a spoon? You act like a fan of Evangelion, but you don't know the most basic things that every Gainax fan knows. That and your previous message confirm Eva & GQuuuuuuX's necessity in joking over otaku.
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notense said:
@nameme137 I answered on every one of your EVA comparisons directly. Do you want me to feed you the answer on a spoon? You act like a fan of Evangelion, but you don't know the most basic things that every Gainax fan knows. That and your previous message confirm Eva & GQuuuuuuX's necessity in joking over otaku.

Yes please, that will actually make me see things through your eyes.

I just asked you what makes GQuuuuuux extremely original and you literally refused to answer again.
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notense said:
@nameme137 I answered on every one of your EVA comparisons directly. Do you want me to feed you the answer on a spoon? You act like a fan of Evangelion, but you don't know the most basic things that every Gainax fan knows. That and your previous message confirm Eva & GQuuuuuuX's necessity in joking over otaku.

Yes please, that will actually make me see things through your eyes.

I just asked you what makes GQuuuuuux extremely original and you literally refused to answer again.
@nameme137 Well, that's the point of the work, i don't want to do it as it would be going against it. I could've given you a link to an /r/gundam reddit post, which has a direct answer... I actually already explained it to dozens of people, and they didn't care too much... So try to find it yourself, you can start with rereading your messages and my answers.
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@nameme137 Well, that's the point of the work, i don't want to do it as it would be going against it. I could've given you a link to an /r/gundam reddit post, which has a direct answer... I actually already explained it to dozens of people, and they didn't care too much... So try to find it yourself, you can start with rereading your messages and my answers.

no answer as expected.
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@nameme137 Well, that's the point of the work, i don't want to do it as it would be going against it. I could've given you a link to an /r/gundam reddit post, which has a direct answer... I actually already explained it to dozens of people, and they didn't care too much... So try to find it yourself, you can start with rereading your messages and my answers.

no answer as expected.
@nameme137 I literally explained to you why i don't want to give a direct answer and what to do. Show some respect, refugee. (LOL)
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@nameme137 I literally explained to you why i don't want to give a direct answer and what to do. Show some respect, refugee. (LOL)
@notense This was your "direct" answer:

notense said:
I'm not talking about just the multiverse, i mean entirety of the work.


Yeah. a very clear and concise explanation.

Also why do keep referring to it as "the work"? And what kind of insult is
notense said:
Show some respect, refugee.


Are you using google translate. That would explain why you are having such a hard time explaining your points.

Anyways your refusal to further explain why you think it's original clearly shows you absolutely have no idea what you meant. You we're just hurt that people disliked an anime that you liked and took it out on a more popular, loved and revered anime because of the connections between two animes.
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Dude, no need to be agressive. First, I don't need to show you a "documented poll" to explain something so obvious, it's like asking for proof for saying the sky is blue. Most people who like TWFM only watched it for the yuri and nothing more, do you even remember the death threats against Sunrise at the end? very few watched it for other things. While its true what you mentioned about the family, most people weren't paying attention for such themes, they were more interesed in both female characters being married at the end of the series and yuri scenes.

Actually the yuri stuff is the only thing everyone remember TWFM now, its rare if someone remember only TWFM for the Gundam unique aspect, the school setting or even the opening. A strong series will be remembered for important stuff like GQuuuuuuX is going to be rememebered for being the first explicit what if UC, constant references and Evangelion inspiration, not because the female characters. I wasn't when GQuuuuuuX was airing but you can read from the thread discussions or even social media, a lot of people were for the yuri between the female characters but started to hate it when they were in love with the same guy.


Lil dumb bro claims he has no records. Proceeds to talk about the viewership of WFM with ABSOLUTELY NO DATA. Reminds me of Trump's idiotic plan to cook jobs numbers by just wiping them.

Did you interview dozens or even hundreds of people in order to calculate that most people watched it for the yuri? And even if this wild claim was true, what's the downside? People need to watch a certain anime for some dumb butthurt fanboy metrics? Pull your head out of your ass, nobody with an ounce of intellect cares about what a little bigot thinks and how he thinks people should consume entertainment media.

ToumaTachibana said:
Gundam was never a top-tier quality series in general, it wasn't in the 80s and 90s and they are not going to be except, at least from my part, from this show. So your examples can be answered just looking at the original show logic, Char won't be able to join the Zeon Army without people knowing his true identity which in fact, Kycilia realized it but she doesn't care. The Origin explination wasn't necessary in my opinion and its a bit convenient. In this Anime, I assumed Char was a nuclear scientist assistant rather than a full-nuclear scientist like the other two people so I alwayas assumed he just secretly changed the inner working of the machine to make the Rose of Sharon disappear from their worlds rather what are you claiming. He could do such things since he was under other alias, other appareance, he wasn't fully in charge and obviously having other personality to avoid people suspecting him. How Xavier knew where Nyaan was in danger is left to interpretation, either remember he's a Newtype too so he could felt it or Nyaan asking him about the cake, the scene was cut on purpose so we don't know what happened so most likely Nyaan told Xavier about the possible poison in the cake but he didn't believe her so he went there to realize she was correct. Or better an combination of both things. The other 3 "mistakes" are just Newtype things...


TLDR, turn your brain off and just believe everything because shit happens. But fuck if the show has stuff like Yuri, heck no, it's unwatchable according to this clown.

Convenient writting and low hanging fruit has always been the punching bag from most hard critics on all kinds of media.

Also, this meme pic will never not be relevant with mental gymnastics like yours



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Edit: why tf you mention US politics here? I'm not even American. The world doesn't revolves around US and such comparasion is out of place lol. TWFM isn't the first show of being popular only for the yuri. A lot of Anime are popular for animation, ships, openings, etc. I have no idea of why complaining about TWFM having a higher score is comparable to America politics? What.


According to whom? I'm not from the US either, but reading your mental gymnastics I think it's proper to draw parallels on how bad they are compared to US politics. Quite ironic to bitch and moan because I'm using modern politics, in a show that gets so much praise from it's hardcore fanbase for being a political show.


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@notense This was your "direct" answer:

notense said:
I'm not talking about just the multiverse, i mean entirety of the work.


Yeah. a very clear and concise explanation.

Also why do keep referring to it as "the work"? And what kind of insult is
notense said:
Show some respect, refugee.


Are you using google translate. That would explain why you are having such a hard time explaining your points.

Anyways your refusal to further explain why you think it's original clearly shows you absolutely have no idea what you meant. You we're just hurt that people disliked an anime that you liked and took it out on a more popular, loved and revered anime because of the connections between two animes.
@shinlightning I explained everything to you already.
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@shinlightning I explained everything to you already.
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notense said:
I'm not talking about just the multiverse, i mean entirety of the work.


You mean this?
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@notense
notense said:
I'm not talking about just the multiverse, i mean entirety of the work.


You mean this?
@shinlightning Just stop, deary. Reread your messages and my answers, then do some work. If you're too stupid to understand, which I understood, as you can read, go improve yourself instead. You wrote an assumption that i'm talking about the multiverse plot, and i answered — no, i'm not talking about just that. Bye-bye!
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@shinlightning Just stop, deary. Reread your messages and my answers, then do some work. If you're too stupid to understand, which I understood, as you can read, go improve yourself instead. You wrote an assumption that i'm talking about the multiverse plot, and i answered — no, i'm not talking about just that. Bye-bye!

lol. okay. just asked a simple question on why you think "the work" is "extremely" original but can't answer that. even quoted your previous answer but still failed to elaborate buh bye
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WfM really is the three houses of Gundam. It's mentioned in like 60 percent of this thread here despite not being the topic of this thread. Incredible.

Anyways, it's not a good sign for a show's reputation or longevity if you need to bring in another show to validate a decision that another show made and it clearly shows with the middling reception the show has.

But hey, it made money for Bandai, so that's the only thing that matters to them.
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