| looking through the internet the only place i saw people happy about his was PS5 reddit. people saying it was a bad thing were automatically downvoted lol. talk about echo chamber |
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| this is just bad news through and through |
CidLovesElves said: Or we could get more lolicon ecchi anime like Eromanga Sensei and the Monogatari series, since Sony produced both those shows, and it doesn't seem they toned down anything from the original...Theyre gonna change a lot for the worse behind the scenes. |
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Reply to Kayle_x_Morgana
looking through the internet the only place i saw people happy about his was PS5 reddit. people saying it was a bad thing were automatically downvoted lol. talk about echo chamber
| @Kayle_x_Morgana This site is one too so |
This post is brought to you by your local transfem gamer goblin. Will not tolerate bigotry and will fight against "anti-woke" sentiment to make the anime community a safer place.  |
| HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO HELL NO |
2025 candies:  |
| People thinking that the "woke" videogame part of Sony is the same or that it has any influence on Aniplex, A-1 Pictures or Cloverworks is quite funny to see. Sony has a huge, huge amount of subdivisions and most of them have little to no influence in each other, otherwise, Aniplex would have produced anime based on Sony's videogame franchises or the majority of their productions would have been cancelled "for being woke", which... hasn't happenned, for said reason I also doubt they'd adapt Dark Souls or any of From Software's games (Just like Kadokawa hasn't done) nor that anime would go "woke". HOWEVER, what's a bigger concern in my opinion is Sony turning in a bigger monopoly than it already is, especially by potentially absorbing a big competitor in Anime. Most Kadokawa anime are in the biggest Crunchyroll's competition (HIDIVE), so if that happened, there would be NO ALTERNATIVES TO CRUNCHYROLL IN STREAMING. Sure, I hate that HIDIVE has the global distribution rights just to be available in 5 countries, but at least there's competition for Crunchyroll. The fact Sony acquires Kadokawa would be catastrophic due to them having the monopoly of streaming by potentailly undermining their competition, sounds like something EA would do. |
 MOKUSHI KUSHIMO SHIMOKU KUMOSHI MOSHIKU SHIKUMO. |
| Monopolies are bad, always. Sony is infamous for having some stupid schemes to loop people into their own ecosystems. Obviously, this would lead to Crunchyroll, already a stupidly over-large presence in anime streaming, having an even larger portion of the market, with only like.... Discotek existing outside them, and that's a DVD licenser |
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@Timeline_man
There's also media blasters & animeigo for DVDs & retrocrush for streaming (which everyone seems to forget exists)
There's also media blasters & animeigo for DVDs & retrocrush for streaming (which everyone seems to forget exists)
| @RareAnimeHunter Retrocrush, like Discotek, is focused on old properties. the users of MAL have the time scale of toddlers, so that all may as well be ancient Greece to them |
| Dreams are worth fighting for |
Reply to Kayle_x_Morgana
looking through the internet the only place i saw people happy about his was PS5 reddit. people saying it was a bad thing were automatically downvoted lol. talk about echo chamber
| @Kayle_x_Morgana last i checked none of them were happy either lmao. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| Sony is trying to be like Microsoft in the mid-late 90's when it comes to the monopoly thing, I hope Japan's equivalent to the FTC will reject the offer. Because buying Kadokawa is considered a big monopoly for the anime industry if Sony even try to buy the company. |
Reply to Attackonfiller
I really can't say anything less to this godwaful news
| @Attackonfiller Now that's a brother who's in the know 😆 |
Reply to Anjuro
I just saw this as well, tbh I am a bit devastated by this news. Kadogawa is no saint but Sony is way worse no doubt about it. I am not sure if I should be more concerned about the gaming side (losing one of my absolute favourite studios, fromsoft, to sony is going to sting) or the anime (obviously Kadogawa produces a lot of anime and anime related products).
Wasn't there a story some years ago where someone wanted kadogawa to start censoring more aggresively and initially it looked like they were gonna but due to the severe customer backlash it forced the CEO to publically apologize and forego the plan? I wish the same thing could happen here, though it won't be so simple because once the merger happens it cannot ever be reverted again so in a way its way more serious this time around.
I guess the only possible saving grace in this situation is that no matter how you twist the companies and the industry, you can't twist the creators themselves, they have their own vision and they will try to stay true to it. Of course the more hostile the industry becomes the worse it is for the fans but where there is wide discontent there is an oppurtunity to do things right, reallythe worst case scenario here is apathy, accepting the censorship, the predatory monetization, the moralist preaching, and giving up on the future. That is the one battle that must not be lost.
Wasn't there a story some years ago where someone wanted kadogawa to start censoring more aggresively and initially it looked like they were gonna but due to the severe customer backlash it forced the CEO to publically apologize and forego the plan? I wish the same thing could happen here, though it won't be so simple because once the merger happens it cannot ever be reverted again so in a way its way more serious this time around.
I guess the only possible saving grace in this situation is that no matter how you twist the companies and the industry, you can't twist the creators themselves, they have their own vision and they will try to stay true to it. Of course the more hostile the industry becomes the worse it is for the fans but where there is wide discontent there is an oppurtunity to do things right, reallythe worst case scenario here is apathy, accepting the censorship, the predatory monetization, the moralist preaching, and giving up on the future. That is the one battle that must not be lost.
| @Anjuro Creators have to eat, and that twists them every time. |
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@GrimAtrament
Not really a valid point, won't go into details but since it is majority rule voting for a less popular party or not voting at all is illogical as it's a quasi-guaranteed chance that one of the two most popular party will win. So by not voting for one of them you are giving the party you like the least more chance. Voting is a fallacy.
GrimAtrament said:
because you keep voting for the pro big corpo demagogues.
because you keep voting for the pro big corpo demagogues.
Not really a valid point, won't go into details but since it is majority rule voting for a less popular party or not voting at all is illogical as it's a quasi-guaranteed chance that one of the two most popular party will win. So by not voting for one of them you are giving the party you like the least more chance. Voting is a fallacy.
| @AnimeGirlGusher If voting really ever changed anything it would have been outlawed centuries ago. Caesar said give them bread and circuses and they'll never revolt. Elections are just another circus, overloaded with clowns of all types. |
| these americans are so self centered |
| it's joeover. get ready for pallet change characters of your favorite anime and no big titties anymore |
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| it's joeover. get ready for pallet change characters of your favorite anime and no big titties anymore |
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| We can't do shit so its useless to complain. I dont think it is going to be that bad but it's really hard to hope for good things. Sony is a multi billion dollar company and i think with well management, this could be a blessing. But checking the recent activity of Sony, it's not looking very bright. |
| Why are eugenics to remove everything normies disagree with disguised as diversity when it is the end of diverse opinions except what big brother and cowloving normies dictate? just nuke us like you did with Japan just do it and stop being hypocrites |
| this is terrible I have nothing against Sony, but their willingness to change shit so it doesnt affect their PR to people than never cared about what they do is known. I hope the deal never takes off |
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| unlikely to go through but well see. Sony has wanted to buy properties form Kadokawa for years, but backed down because Kadokawa wants them to buy everything or nothing. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
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Apparently it is because Kadokawa did not want to be owned by the Korean corporation Kakao (Sony is Japanese as is Kadokawa), and Sony is therefore seen as the lesser of two evils. In fact, it may be the Kadokawa went to them and not the other way around. If this is true, then Sony is not the overarching villain here, but Kakao.
Not that it does not suck.
Edit: Not sure why certain people here are complaining of western styled censorship when Sony is a Japanese company in Japan?
Not that it does not suck.
Edit: Not sure why certain people here are complaining of western styled censorship when Sony is a Japanese company in Japan?
| @PeripheralVision PeripheralVision said: Edit: Not sure why certain people here are complaining of western styled censorship when Sony is a Japanese company in Japan? Because the US is allegedly the second biggest anime/manga market outside of Japan which gives the licensors plenty of sway in what is allowed on their platforms and in many cases if it means enough of a potential loss to have it not shown at all vs shown with content hidden or removed, they'll definitely opt for the latter. That aside though, the monopoly that this will give Sony is still the bigger problem. Reports have since come out that not only does Sony intend to pursue the offer, but that Kadokawa employees are in favor of this acquisition so it's very likely to go through unless there's an intervention by the JFTC. And FromSoft just announced a new Elden Ring title so I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see them push it through in time to slap the SIE logo on that. |
NTADDec 12, 2024 10:06 PM
| @animegamer245 Well depending on how you search for the data, it seems you'll get a bunch of different answers. If I mention manga only, I get France. If I mention anime only I get conflicting data supporting the US or China, though from sheer size of population I'm more inclined to believe it's China. If I mention both anime/manga, I get an AI overview saying it's the US. Honestly I'm fine with being wrong. I just wish I didn't have to manipulate keywords trying to get a straight fucking answer. But then what fun would that be? |
| Sony also confirmed this week that they made the initial offer. IGN surfaced the comment as well. It's unlikely that Kadokawa was lying or that things changed drastically, but we can now see Sony's open about it. |
| The only way this would be a good thing is if it somehow results in us finally getting an official English translation of the Tokyo Ravens and Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero Novels over here because of it. I want to finish reading them. |
KruszerDec 13, 2024 11:43 PM
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
| Sony isn't buying Kadokawa, but they now own 10 percent: KADOKAWA and Sony Agree to Form Strategic Capital and Business Alliance Sony will spend 50 billion Yen (~330 million USD) to increase its stake in Kadokawa from 2% to 10%, making it the top shareholder in the company. They're spinning it as "maximizing both company's IP," which I think means they'll be doing more adaptations and mixed media projects. Maybe they're genuinely thinking that lame, or maybe they're just laying the groundwork for a full acquisition down the line. |
Kayle_x_Morgana said: I'm scared for Kisekoi S2, Sony will somehow find a way to censor it it's joeover. get ready for pallet change characters of your favorite anime and no big titties anymore  |
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| It's inevitable for a conglomerate to eventually buy out smaller entities over time. Reminds me how AT&T bought out Time Warner and WarnerMedia in the past. Just be thankful Disney or some other Western conglomerate isn't trying to swallow up the Anime industry. Just be thankful Sony is a Japanese conglomerate too. Kadokawa Corporation will likely not change much since Sony is only a large shareholder as of now. Sony's role will typically be no more than focused on distribution and production rather than directly controlling creative content or even worrying about decision-making processes behind censorship. Even before Sony was the largest shareholders of Kadokawa Corporation they were still a large shareholder, where in the past Kadokawa Corporation still helped in the publishing and continued distribution of "High School DxD", "Food Wars!", "Eromanga Sensei", etc... and it's not like Sony threw a fit over them. lol If Users are worried about censorship in Anime it's usually the director who is in charge of such things. Such as a recent example, Morio Asaka who directed "Wandering Witch: The Journey of Elaina" specifically avoided creating camera angles to not have the characters panties being exposed when flying on her broom. Even completely scrapping an entire scene that was originally produced post production where Elaina’s panties were being briefly exposed before it was released. |
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