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Yesterday, 10:02 AM

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RobertBobert said:
People, seriously, can you wait at least a couple of days until the last chapter comes out? It just amazes me how people over-dramatize every new chapter without even trying to wait until the story actually ends.

The final chapter been leaked for days now

We know what happens in the last chapter,even if it wasnt leaked,with the way 165 was written,it wouldnt take a genius to know thay 166 will just be ppl move on fron Aqua's death

Also,for most manga,the "final chapter" often serves as a epilogue with the 2nd to last being the "ending"

So me talking about "the ending" is very normal and not "why cant peopke be patient and wait"
@HoangNguyen2107 Are you sure? The final chapter will be released the day after tomorrow, but all the so-called leaks that I found on the Internet describe two chapters before that. And yes, no matter what the leaks are, they still need to be confirmed. Which obviously won't happen before the release of the original chapter.
Yesterday, 10:06 AM

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For people who read the Kaguya manga all throughout...

Theyve expected this...

The author writes good & interesting concept of the manga at the start & thus made it popular...

& ofc he knows how to fumble its ending too...
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

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RobertBobert said:
@HoangNguyen2107 Are you sure? The final chapter will be released the day after tomorrow, but all the so-called leaks that I found on the Internet describe two chapters before that. And yes, no matter what the leaks are, they still need to be confirmed. Which obviously won't happen before the release of the original chapter.

Well first,leaks are often correct about the outline of the chapters,we dont havd any panels but the leaks told about the premiss of 166

Second, the source have a history so i have my trust

Lastly,like ive already said,it wouldnt take a genius to know how 166 would go (people dealing with Aqua's death and move on) because thats literally the basic of writing a story with someone died at the end. Maybe there could be some surprise but it wouldnt change the core of last chapter
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RobertBobert said:
@HoangNguyen2107 Are you sure? The final chapter will be released the day after tomorrow, but all the so-called leaks that I found on the Internet describe two chapters before that. And yes, no matter what the leaks are, they still need to be confirmed. Which obviously won't happen before the release of the original chapter.

Well first,leaks are often correct about the outline of the chapters,we dont havd any panels but the leaks told about the premiss of 166

Second, the source have a history so i have my trust

Lastly,like ive already said,it wouldnt take a genius to know how 166 would go (people dealing with Aqua's death and move on) because thats literally the basic of writing a story with someone died at the end. Maybe there could be some surprise but it wouldnt change the core of last chapter
@HoangNguyen2107 So you're just discussing things as fact based on a leaked chapter that hasn't been released yet? Seriously? And don’t tell me about the premise, we saw a few chapters ago how Aqua was convinced of the importance of his current identity and how excessive attachment to Goro’s legacy is ruining his current life. This is literally one of the reasons why people criticize the (potential) ending. Of course, leaks can be a reason for discussion, but arguing and citing this as a fact is completely stupid.
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@HoangNguyen2107 Are you sure? The final chapter will be released the day after tomorrow, but all the so-called leaks that I found on the Internet describe two chapters before that. And yes, no matter what the leaks are, they still need to be confirmed. Which obviously won't happen before the release of the original chapter.
@RobertBobert Whole raw chapter is already online
Yesterday, 1:09 PM

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@RobertBobert Whole raw chapter is already online
@bastek66 I saw it, but it’s so bad that I don’t want to believe it even more. Because if the last chapter looked like just a bad epilogue, then this chapter seemed to be done on the knee to lazily end the story with a formal ending after its destruction.

@Hitagi__Furude Kaguya's ending was just mediocre, as if Aka had run out of steam and was formally writing poorly thought out chapters about nothing. But here he literally ruined a bunch of things, right down to the main idea of ​​the manga. And ended it with a couple of shitty chapters with an epilogue montage. Compared to this, Kaguya was finished just fine. Seriously. I'm usually used to having to argue with people to prove why I think something is bad, but this is literally bad on so many levels.
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@bastek66 I saw it, but it’s so bad that I don’t want to believe it even more. Because if the last chapter looked like just a bad epilogue, then this chapter seemed to be done on the knee to lazily end the story with a formal ending after its destruction.

@Hitagi__Furude Kaguya's ending was just mediocre, as if Aka had run out of steam and was formally writing poorly thought out chapters about nothing. But here he literally ruined a bunch of things, right down to the main idea of ​​the manga. And ended it with a couple of shitty chapters with an epilogue montage. Compared to this, Kaguya was finished just fine. Seriously. I'm usually used to having to argue with people to prove why I think something is bad, but this is literally bad on so many levels.
@RobertBobert Well if it makes you feel better, apparently there's supposed to be an extra chapter included in the volume release. Doubt it will change much but sometimes manga authors put the "real" ending in them (Hoshino-san me o tsubette comes to mind).
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@RobertBobert Well if it makes you feel better, apparently there's supposed to be an extra chapter included in the volume release. Doubt it will change much but sometimes manga authors put the "real" ending in them (Hoshino-san me o tsubette comes to mind).
@hyperknees91 Real one? Isn't just an attempt to soften the fandom's butthurt with an alternate ending or manipulate them like in the case of Prison Schhool?
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@hyperknees91 Real one? Isn't just an attempt to soften the fandom's butthurt with an alternate ending or manipulate them like in the case of Prison Schhool?
@RobertBobert Unfortunately we won't know until its out...it just teases its going to reveal a secret. Like said, wouldn't hold my breath but you never know.
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honestly I think the ending suits the manga I did felt sad when aqua died but honestly that's the whole point oshi no ko was never a happy story but a tragic one and it ended that way tragic ending doesn't equal to bad ending
Yesterday, 2:03 PM

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honestly I think the ending suits the manga I did felt sad when aqua died but honestly that's the whole point oshi no ko was never a happy story but a tragic one and it ended that way tragic ending doesn't equal to bad ending
@quietkun27 It was always a tragic story, but it taught how to prevent new tragedies and protect a happy future. Which is what this ending destroyed.

@hyperknees91 From what I see, they also announced a new LN about Kana and Akane. I hope this is just a spin-off about their childhood and not an attempt to distract the attention of fans with a yuri after the death of the male lead. Then it will just be bingo.
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@quietkun27 It was always a tragic story, but it taught how to prevent new tragedies and protect a happy future. Which is what this ending destroyed.

@hyperknees91 From what I see, they also announced a new LN about Kana and Akane. I hope this is just a spin-off about their childhood and not an attempt to distract the attention of fans with a yuri after the death of the male lead. Then it will just be bingo.
@RobertBobert Lawl...the one thing this story needs is more pointless ship teasing. I'm expecting it will be just like the bloom into you light novels.
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@RobertBobert Lawl...the one thing this story needs is more pointless ship teasing. I'm expecting it will be just like the bloom into you light novels.
@hyperknees91 I think Bloom into you LN was actually even better than the original manga in some aspects. But if this really is an attempt to distract fans with a G-Orphans style ending one way or the other, I'm really going to hate this manga.
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@hyperknees91 I think Bloom into you LN was actually even better than the original manga in some aspects. But if this really is an attempt to distract fans with a G-Orphans style ending one way or the other, I'm really going to hate this manga.
@RobertBobert Good lord G-orphans ending was so strange for a gundam show. Shipping has really gotten out of control in anime.

I was giving Aka the benefit of the doubt with Kaguya's ending in that he was just burned out. But I think this story solidified for me that he just gets bored and wants to move on as soon as he can so I think will be the last work I read of his.
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@RobertBobert Good lord G-orphans ending was so strange for a gundam show. Shipping has really gotten out of control in anime.

I was giving Aka the benefit of the doubt with Kaguya's ending in that he was just burned out. But I think this story solidified for me that he just gets bored and wants to move on as soon as he can so I think will be the last work I read of his.
@hyperknees91 Huh, looks like Sunrise wanted this so bad that they literally built the next original TV Gundam around it, lmao. Which seems ironic considering how fans were much more vocal in criticizing this in the case of Orphans.

Many people write that the manga was finished so poorly due to revenge against his editor, who forced him to continue it further than he wanted. But I just don't see the point because in the end it was his fans who suffered the most, not the editor.
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@hyperknees91 Huh, looks like Sunrise wanted this so bad that they literally built the next original TV Gundam around it, lmao. Which seems ironic considering how fans were much more vocal in criticizing this in the case of Orphans.

Many people write that the manga was finished so poorly due to revenge against his editor, who forced him to continue it further than he wanted. But I just don't see the point because in the end it was his fans who suffered the most, not the editor.
@RobertBobert Must have had some good merch sales is my guess...

That's possible but I think getting into that sort of speculation territory isn't very productive as there's really no way to tell (especially with Japan defamation laws, they would never admin to something like that). At the end of the day, if he really cared about the manga, he wouldn't have ended it like that even if he was spiteful about something going on behind the scenes.
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@RobertBobert Must have had some good merch sales is my guess...

That's possible but I think getting into that sort of speculation territory isn't very productive as there's really no way to tell (especially with Japan defamation laws, they would never admin to something like that). At the end of the day, if he really cared about the manga, he wouldn't have ended it like that even if he was spiteful about something going on behind the scenes.
@hyperknees91 Well, this is the second time he has so blatantly torpedoed his work in order to move on to a new one. So we already know that Aka is at least inclined to completely abandon things even if they have great significance.

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@hyperknees91 Well, this is the second time he has so blatantly torpedoed his work in order to move on to a new one. So we already know that Aka is at least inclined to completely abandon things even if they have great significance.

@RobertBobert Just to be real with you, no one hates the second half/ending of Kaguya more than me. I do see plenty of people who still can enjoy it and I can respect that, but that issue you mentioned with it is one of many on why I dislike it so much.

I'm not sure what his problem is. If Renai Daikou didn't get axed I would say its because he feels like he can do whatever he wants and people won't care, but I would've assumed that taught him a lesson (especially because now he has two works which have been axed).
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Have only read volume 1. After the Attack On Titan ending hate campaign, I've never trusted anyone's opinion about bad endings ever again. Even without including the Attack On Titan drama, I've experienced that Westerners lack reading comprehension. So yeah, I'll make my own opinion when I read it in the manga/watch it on the anime.
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Have only read volume 1. After the Attack On Titan ending hate campaign, I've never trusted anyone's opinion about bad endings ever again. Even without including the Attack On Titan drama, I've experienced that Westerners lack reading comprehension. So yeah, I'll make my own opinion when I read it in the manga/watch it on the anime.
@Infernalization Can you explain why you're so adamant about who didn't like the ending of AoT? Well, except for a slightly similar drama with the fate of the main character.

@hyperknees91 Do you think that Aka at some point got star sickness and God syndrome, deciding that he could do and react as he wanted, even if people were against it? This reminds me a little of Seo Koji from the time of that twist in Fuuka, after which he seemed to have sworn off provoking fans so much. But to be honest, I could forgive Aqua's death based on my reaction to the death of protagonists in some other shows, but how poorly it was done...
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I have lose interest not even gonna read manga or watch Oshi no ko anime season 3. Killing Aquamarine Hoshino is like killing Oshi no ko series itself. Game over no sequel shit ending. I pretend I never watch or read about Oshi no ko.

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RobertBobert said:
@Infernalization Can you explain why you're so adamant about who didn't like the ending of AoT? Well, except for a slightly similar drama with the fate of the main character.

@hyperknees91 Do you think that Aka at some point got star sickness and God syndrome, deciding that he could do and react as he wanted, even if people were against it? This reminds me a little of Seo Koji from the time of that twist in Fuuka, after which he seemed to have sworn off provoking fans so much. But to be honest, I could forgive Aqua's death based on my reaction to the death of protagonists in some other shows, but how poorly it was done...

Because all the people who whined about the ending of AOT were a loud minority who were trying to gaslight anime only people into hating the series when the ending made perfectly sense.

Whether the ending haters being a loud minority is the case with Oshi no Ko? I don't know, but I am just sick and tired that people have to take away someone else's enjoyment just because they didn't like an ending.
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I have lose interest not even gonna read manga or watch Oshi no ko anime season 3. Killing Aquamarine Hoshino is like killing Oshi no ko series itself. Game over no sequel shit ending. I pretend I never watch or read about Oshi no ko.
@DemonDarknight I'm afraid that a lot of people will ignore the live action or the third season for this reason. Or at least they will be viewed through a much more biased perspective. I want to sympathize with Ruby after all this, but with Aka pushing her to the side significantly, it just feels like Aqua being made a scapegoat for her well-being.

@Infernalization I would say that this is quite subjective and it would be rude to accuse all dissenting people of whining or gaslighting just because you personally had a different opinion. But personally, I was more irritated by the attempts of some people to convince themselves and everyone that Miksa should die forever alone so that they would not feel NTR-ed.
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RobertBobert said:
@DemonDarknight I'm afraid that a lot of people will ignore the live action or the third season for this reason. Or at least they will be viewed through a much more biased perspective. I want to sympathize with Ruby after all this, but with Aka pushing her to the side significantly, it just feels like Aqua being made a scapegoat for her well-being.

@Infernalization I would say that this is quite subjective and it would be rude to accuse all dissenting people of whining or gaslighting just because you personally had a different opinion. But personally, I was more irritated by the attempts of some people to convince themselves and everyone that Miksa should die forever alone so that they would not feel NTR-ed.

The people who I call whiners are the type of people who send death threats to/bullying the author, burning manga and bullying people who do like the ending, which was in the case of AOT a large part of the vocal minority.

The group of civil dissenting people who dislike an ending are not included in this.
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RobertBobert said:
@DemonDarknight I'm afraid that a lot of people will ignore the live action or the third season for this reason. Or at least they will be viewed through a much more biased perspective. I want to sympathize with Ruby after all this, but with Aka pushing her to the side significantly, it just feels like Aqua being made a scapegoat for her well-being.

@Infernalization I would say that this is quite subjective and it would be rude to accuse all dissenting people of whining or gaslighting just because you personally had a different opinion. But personally, I was more irritated by the attempts of some people to convince themselves and everyone that Miksa should die forever alone so that they would not feel NTR-ed.

The people who I call whiners are the type of people who send death threats to/bullying the author, burning manga and bullying people who do like the ending, which was in the case of AOT a large part of the vocal minority.

The group of civil dissenting people who dislike an ending are not included in this.
@Infernalization Well, then you should have pointed this out in the first place. Because in your past comments you actually generalized and blamed everyone
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