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As far as anime goes, I personally think 99% of censorship is undesirable, the last 1% is censorship by omission of scenes that work better with the omission (for example, lets say a villain gets beheaded, depending on the scene, it might make sense to cut away or it might make sense to show it in detail). One curious case is that of convenient censorship, this is censorship that sort of makes sense in universe, but in many cases can feel "too convenient" or artificial. One example is the "hair bra" trope, whenever you have a girl with long hair, you know that if ever she takes her shirt off, her hair will be magnetically drawn to her nipples, doesn't matter if she is fighting, falling at terminal velocity, spinning at 90 Hz etc. Other examples include the "convenient foreground object" trope, or the "indestructible fabric around the breasts and crotch" trope.

Partially I can accept the effort to make the censorship make some sense in-universe, whenever I see the lightsabers and the shadows in broad daylight forms of censorship I get really annoyed that they wanna play this stupid game of including explicit scenes but "pretending to show them". Convenient censorship is more immersive for sure, but in most cases I still find it hard to defend. I don't like this feeling of "predestination" it creates. And artistically speaking, it just looks plain ugly, sometimes you can't even tell what is going on, it's artists butchering their work in the name of compliance.

Ultimately I feel like scenes like this go against a foundational principle of art, which is, make it the best it can be. Why are there rimlights everywhere? Why is the contrast always on point? Why do characters do stuff in a cool way when they don't have to? Its because art is an idealized in this way. So you have to ask, is the scene with the convenient censorship or god forbid the lightsabers the best it can be? Does it even deserve to be included? I don't know about the latter, but the former is dubious at best.
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I think it can be funny sometimes which is why I enjoy this page
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SceneryCensor
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I think it can be funny sometimes which is why I enjoy this page
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SceneryCensor
@Theo1899 Honestly the only time I found it funny was at the start of the simpsons movie (because initially it seems like they are going to do the usual thing but surprisingly, they actually reverse the censor at the end to only show the dick and hide everything else.)
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Oh i absolutely love it, especially when it's used tastefully and very sensually.

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Censorship is very bad for your eyes.
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Oh i absolutely love it, especially when it's used tastefully and very sensually.

@tchitchouan That one doesn't look too too bad but still kinda not sold on it tbh. Show the areola at least to show me that you care :)

with boob censorship in particular one recurring thought I have is what would happen if they colour the nipples blue or something, would that be allowed? What if they make the areola square or whatever else modification? I wonder if you could do something like that to find another creative way to show it without resorting to hair bra syndrome.
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Convenient censorship is lame, if things need to get censored then it should be done in a creative and appealing way at least.
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Convenient censorship is lame, if things need to get censored then it should be done in a creative and appealing way at least.
@Zarutaku I think that is what they are trying to do with this sort of thing but when everyone is doing it it ceases to be creative.

Tbh, I would prefer a form of censorship where its just super low contrast but visible (e.g. just put like a thick but see through fog in front), so if you pause the frame and squint you could see it but otherwise its not visible. Maybe that would get them in hot water idk but to me at least it would be a clear stance that hey, we're not censoring this cause we want to but cause we have to.

edit: and, not to mention, you could probably create a software that would restore the uncensored image by removing the fog. That's my biggest gripe with convenient censorship, its kinda like giving up on the uncensored version, to "uncensor it" you would have to redraw the frame.
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Unless it's distracting, I don't care. Mosaic blur, white clouds, and black boxes are all terrible. But if the part is hidden or an object looks like it blocking it naturally, then I do not mind at all.
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Sometimes it is obnoxious
Sometimes it is funny
Sometimes it is artistic
Sometimes it is just a handy workaround from more ugly censorship required by outdated Japanese law written by Americans after WWII
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Unless it's distracting, I don't care. Mosaic blur, white clouds, and black boxes are all terrible. But if the part is hidden or an object looks like it blocking it naturally, then I do not mind at all.
@Kiyomice Sometimes it works, my main problem with it honestly is overuse. If it was a stylistic choice I would have no problems with it, but they HAVE to do it, everyone does, and that bothers me, as a viewer and as an artist.

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