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May 5, 2024 8:11 AM
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Once again anime where, the loser gains powerful abbility overnight. The protagonist can easily adapt to his newfound power and destroy everyone. Looking at the ratings, I think I'm the only one who is bored with this trite theme. How do you guys look at it?
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May 5, 2024 8:14 AM
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Seems like you are finding out how battle shonen works
May 5, 2024 8:19 AM
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Seems like you are finding out how battle shonen works
@PPL_CaLL_Me_DUDE I rather knew already that they were lame. Besides, not every battle shonen has such a weak theme, but yes for the most part the creators of these “battle shonen” aren't the best at writing stories, or can't do it at all.
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May 5, 2024 8:21 AM
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Congrats, you discovered that most Anime are reiterations of previous Anime with some alterations.
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May 5, 2024 8:23 AM
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Great job discovering how boring most battle shonen are.
May 5, 2024 8:30 AM
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Yes. Pretty much the only one not understanding the concept and what makes it work.

Get it over with and drop it.
We don‘t need to know^^
May 5, 2024 8:32 AM
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Congrats, you discovered that most Anime are reiterations of previous Anime with some alterations.
@Zarutaku There's nothing wrong with reiteration, it's about reapiting stories written badly, but since people like it, the creators know they don't have to make an effort in writing stories
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May 5, 2024 8:35 AM
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Yes. Pretty much the only one not understanding the concept and what makes it work.

Get it over with and drop it.
We don‘t need to know^^
@Merve2Love There is nothing here that makes it work
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May 5, 2024 8:38 AM
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leyaf said:
@Merve2Love There is nothing here that makes it work

It‘s Shonen. Classic Shonen stuff

… you might have heard of it…
One of the most succesful Genres ever…

It works.
Even if you don‘t get it or feel like you‘re kinda above it.
Trust me: It. Works.

:)
May 5, 2024 8:39 AM

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@Merve2Love There is nothing here that makes it work

It‘s Shonen. Classic Shonen stuff

… you might have heard of it…
One of the most succesful Genres ever…

It works.
Even if you don‘t get it or feel like you‘re kinda above it.
Trust me: It. Works.

:)
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Shonen is a demographic not a genre.
May 5, 2024 8:40 AM
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leyaf said:
Once again anime where, the loser gains powerful abbility overnight. The protagonist can easily adapt to his newfound power and destroy everyone. Looking at the ratings, I think I'm the only one who is bored with this trite theme. How do you guys look at it?

it's battle shounen. if you're sick of it, leave shounen. what were you expecting?
May 5, 2024 8:42 AM
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It's battle shōnen of course. Is that new? Lmao.
May 5, 2024 8:44 AM

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leyaf said:
Once again anime where, the loser gains powerful abbility overnight. The protagonist can easily adapt to his newfound power and destroy everyone. Looking at the ratings, I think I'm the only one who is bored with this trite theme. How do you guys look at it?

it's battle shounen. if you're sick of it, leave shounen. what were you expecting?
@Pablo_Neruda1 You people don't understand that if a lot of people like something then it will continue to be created with the biggest budgets, it just hurts that creators who really try and write interesting stories don't get such anime.
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May 5, 2024 8:44 AM

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JoeChip said:
@Merve2Love

Shonen is a demographic not a genre.

I know that this sounded really, really smug and smart, in your head.

But it is indeed both, in Anime as we understand it, today :) I’m sorry.
May 5, 2024 8:45 AM

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It's battle shōnen of course. Is that new? Lmao.
@CheliosX It's not new, but I don't know why it continues to be created
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May 5, 2024 8:45 AM
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leyaf said:
@Pablo_Neruda1 You people don't understand that if a lot of people like something then it will continue to be created with the biggest budgets, it just hurts that creators who really try and write interesting stories don't get such anime.

I understand, trust me. from MCs gaining so much power that they change the course of the plot, I mean, what can we really do but watch?
May 5, 2024 8:45 AM

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leyaf said:
@Merve2Love There is nothing here that makes it work

It‘s Shonen. Classic Shonen stuff

… you might have heard of it…
One of the most succesful Genres ever…

It works.
Even if you don‘t get it or feel like you‘re kinda above it.
Trust me: It. Works.

:)
@Merve2Love first of all shonen is not a genre, secondly I know very well that people like it and that hurts me
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May 5, 2024 8:46 AM
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leyaf said:
@CheliosX It's not new, but I don't know why it continues to be created

I don't know. For popularity sake I guess? Well, that's all there is to it.
May 5, 2024 8:48 AM

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JoeChip said:
@Merve2Love

Shonen is a demographic not a genre.

I know that this sounded really, really smug and smart, in your head.

But it is indeed both, in Anime as we understand it, today :) I’m sorry.
@Merve2Love

If you cope harder it might sound true to you but I am afraid it still doesn't make it a genre.
May 5, 2024 8:49 AM
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@CheliosX It's not new, but I don't know why it continues to be created
@leyaf Why do we watch DS? Same reasons. Animation, action choreography etc
We don't expect a great story, it's about entertainment value.
May 5, 2024 8:50 AM

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leyaf said:
@CheliosX It's not new, but I don't know why it continues to be created

I don't know. For popularity sake I guess? Well, that's all there is to it.
@CheliosX I KNOW IT. It just pains me that so much appreciation is given to people who don't make an effort. And no appreciation is given to really good writers
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May 5, 2024 8:51 AM

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leyaf said:
@Merve2Love first of all shonen is not a genre, secondly I know very well that people like it and that hurts me

I wasn‘t hoping for you to agree^^ Don‘t worry.



Well, that‘s - without trying to be disrespectful - pretty pretenscious and petty for you to feel hurt by this^^

Another thing: If everybody likes it and you‘re this one dude feeling angry….maybe the problem is with you and not with the Show. Right?

Then again… Not everything is for everyone.
Don‘t feel hurt, tho^^ Get a Grip and drop it
May 5, 2024 8:51 AM
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leyaf said:
@CheliosX I KNOW IT. It just pains me that so much appreciation is given to people who don't make an effort. And no appreciation is given to really good writers

Yea, you're right. Literally every mangaka wants to make a battle shōnen series. It's already a normal and typical concept at this point.
May 5, 2024 8:51 AM

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@leyaf Why do we watch DS? Same reasons. Animation, action choreography etc
We don't expect a great story, it's about entertainment value.
@PPL_CaLL_Me_DUDE not sure what you mean with DS
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May 5, 2024 8:52 AM

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JoeChip said:
@Merve2Love

If you cope harder it might sound true to you but I am afraid it still doesn't make it a genre.

Psssht ^^ let it go.
We can agree to disagree.
May 5, 2024 8:52 AM
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@PPL_CaLL_Me_DUDE not sure what you mean with DS
@leyaf sry, my bad
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May 5, 2024 8:53 AM

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leyaf said:
@Merve2Love first of all shonen is not a genre, secondly I know very well that people like it and that hurts me

I wasn‘t hoping for you to agree^^ Don‘t worry.



Well, that‘s - without trying to be disrespectful - pretty pretenscious and petty for you to feel hurt by this^^

Another thing: If everybody likes it and you‘re this one dude feeling angry….maybe the problem is with you and not with the Show. Right?

Then again… Not everything is for everyone.
Don‘t feel hurt, tho^^ Get a Grip and drop it
@Merve2Love it's the problem in me that the creator wrote the story badly. LMAO

and shonen is not a genre here there is nothing to agree with
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May 5, 2024 8:55 AM

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leyaf said:
@Merve2Love it's the problem in me that the creator wrote the story badly. LMAO

and shonen is not a genre here there is nothing to agree with

But, you said that you‘re aware that most people like it….

So it beeing written „badly“ isn‘t a fact now, is it?^^
May 5, 2024 8:58 AM

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@Merve2Love it's the problem in me that the creator wrote the story badly. LMAO

and shonen is not a genre here there is nothing to agree with

But, you said that you‘re aware that most people like it….

So it beeing written „badly“ isn‘t a fact now, is it?^^
@Merve2Love just because something is liked doesn't mean it's good ^^
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May 5, 2024 8:59 AM
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@Merve2Love just because something is liked doesn't mean it's good ^^
@leyaf Liked means it is good in someway. It doesn't need to be the story.
May 5, 2024 9:00 AM

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@leyaf sry, my bad
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@PPL_CaLL_Me_DUDE I haven't watched it yet
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May 5, 2024 9:00 AM

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@leyaf Liked means it is good in someway. It doesn't need to be the story.
@PPL_CaLL_Me_DUDE yes in this case it is brilliant animation graphics and music, but not the story
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May 5, 2024 9:01 AM

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leyaf said:
@Merve2Love just because something is liked doesn't mean it's good ^^

True.

But that wasn’t the argument
The argument was: Maybe it‘s just you^^

And I think that‘s just it.
You don’t like it. You think it‘s bad.
Well, but ten thousand other people say it‘s good.

Who to believe? ;)
What‘s really the problem?
It‘s you.
May 5, 2024 9:01 AM
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it just follows the formula of the other shonen before it. I'm anime only, and as of right now it isn't really doing much to differentiate itself. it still has enjoyable things about it, though. the characters are fun and interesting - albeit basic - and the soundtrack is pretty good if you like hip hop. I wouldn't completely write it off just because it's generic. it's for the people who already like the genre like most other modern shonen
May 5, 2024 9:04 AM

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@Merve2Love just because something is liked doesn't mean it's good ^^

True.

But that wasn’t the argument
The argument was: Maybe it‘s just you^^

And I think that‘s just it.
You don’t like it. You think it‘s bad.
Well, but ten thousand other people say it‘s good.

Who to believe? ;)
What‘s really the problem?
It‘s you.
@Merve2Love I prefer individualism to the tyranny of the majority, of course you can consider the opinion of the majority as right ^^
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May 5, 2024 9:07 AM

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@Merve2Love I prefer individualism to the tyranny of the majority, of course you can consider the opinion of the majority as right ^^

Oof…. Cmon now^^

It can‘t be that you‘re just maaaybe a bit wrong?

It‘s tyranni and you‘re the chosen one who saw through it, while the rest of us is just not special enough? xD

If you‘re not just a 14y old this kind of attitude is kinda creepy^^
May 5, 2024 9:11 AM

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@Merve2Love I prefer individualism to the tyranny of the majority, of course you can consider the opinion of the majority as right ^^

Oof…. Cmon now^^

It can‘t be that you‘re just maaaybe a bit wrong?

It‘s tyranni and you‘re the chosen one who saw through it, while the rest of us is just not special enough? xD

If you‘re not just a 14y old this kind of attitude is kinda creepy^^
@Merve2Love You didn't understand what I meant, google the terms for yourself as you are mentally limited.
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May 5, 2024 10:18 AM
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leyaf said:
Once again anime where, the loser gains powerful abbility overnight. The protagonist can easily adapt to his newfound power and destroy everyone. Looking at the ratings, I think I'm the only one who is bored with this trite theme. How do you guys look at it?

I feel you. I only checked this out because of Production I.G
May 5, 2024 10:33 AM

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leyaf said:
Once again anime where, the loser gains powerful abbility overnight. The protagonist can easily adapt to his newfound power and destroy everyone. Looking at the ratings, I think I'm the only one who is bored with this trite theme. How do you guys look at it?

I feel you. I only checked this out because of Production I.G
@Eleben yeah this is my favorite studio right behind madhouse
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May 5, 2024 10:38 AM
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I see you’re one of those that think anything that doesn’t have the MC go through several episodes of training & physical struggle before gaining power is bad.

Personally, I don’t care, if the show is enjoyable despite that then that’s really all I need from it. But if it’s not what you want to see then the best advice I can give is drop it & keep searching for the things you feel are well-written with gradual build ups to power, which would mean practically cutting out everything Shonen.
May 5, 2024 11:01 AM
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Idc. if I enjoy watching it it's good enough for me
May 5, 2024 11:10 AM
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This is story is pretty much a new and fresh story. During the first part Kafka will have to use his own strengh to cooperate with the others, if he will ever use Kaiju power the Defense Force will find out what he is. You are talking about an OP protagonist and that is true, but he only used his power just to save Kikoru, during the tests he used his own and original strengh, so I don't see much problems here. It's not like One-Punch man where Saitama one-shot every enemy he fight
May 5, 2024 11:36 AM
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Battle shonen is geared towards teen boys, so it’s going to follow the same tropes at times, from other battle shonen.

In my opinion this is one of my favorite battle shonen because it genuinely feels different. I like this series a lot more compared to other big mainstream series.

Also battle shonen isn’t the only thing that follows the same tropes a lot of times.

Edit: he doesn’t completely adapt to his power overnight, the power is doing its own thing.
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it's enjoyable that's why
if u find it boring, perhaps
drop it?...
May 5, 2024 1:26 PM
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If you hate Shonen so much why do you keep going out of your way to watch them? There’s other things for you to watch that you actually enjoy.
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I wouldn’t say it’s an easy adaptation. He still has to deal with, y’know, being a kaiju, in a world that hates kaiju. On top of actually needing training to best make use of the power against the actual threats
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I wouldn’t say it’s an easy adaptation. He still has to deal with, y’know, being a kaiju, in a world that hates kaiju. On top of actually needing training to best make use of the power against the actual threats

Chainsaw man being a devil in a world that hates devils, attack on titan being a titan in a world that hates titans, heck beastars legoshi being a wolf in a world that hated preditors. I know this wasn’t the point for the entirety of these series’ but it was a starting point, and kinda what I’m seeing with this one too
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leyaf said:
Once again anime where, the loser gains powerful abbility overnight. The protagonist can easily adapt to his newfound power and destroy everyone. Looking at the ratings, I think I'm the only one who is bored with this trite theme. How do you guys look at it?

Based on your profile, why are you even watching anime in general when your average rating is 5.39, it seems like you are just a overly critical person that doesn’t like fun shit
May 7, 2024 2:19 AM
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I think it's ok. He had hiccups at start on hospital. Also you have to consider it's still his body and neural system even when morphed. That means instincts are in play too, even new ones (as kaiju) - see how instincts can be inherited by epigenetics for example.

So this story is focused mainly on protagonist's story and drama is about hiding the fact he is kaiju. In bigger picture it's about xenophobism and prejudices because bobody considered that kaiju can think and blah blah...

So for me, it's reasonable, I can wrap my head around and I like it (at least that 4 eps I saw).

I saw only two really good animes with good progression system and it was Great Cleric and Solo Leveling. But that stories are focused on that progression (RPG style) as they are slowly getting OP so definitely different genre.

Pls consider that all my opinions are subjective not objective.
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we have seen this type of anime so many times but it's still fun to watch
cool characters and a bearable MC all are good factors that add to the enjoyment

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