Tensei shitara Dainana Ouji Datta node, Kimama ni Majutsu wo Kiwamemasu Episode 5 Discussion

Lyod hiding his power is a bit meh and seems to just add extra character drama for the sake of it. Are we given really any reason why he hides it? It would make others around him interfere with his studies? Actually, if they knew his true power, they might just as well let him study all he wants. And there isn't really much they can do either way, considering even all of the teamed up don't hold a candle to Lyod.

Now if he wanted to be cautious and take things slowly since some real threat might notice him right away when he isn't prepared, it would be one thing (though he still uses his power quite often enough that anyone with proper sensing abilities might catch wind anyway), but that doesn't seem to the case for him.

The whole secret identity trope is meh though, and a lot of time is just there to add extra tension.

@Hormoz They know he's a magic genius but don't know exactly how much power he has. If Lloyd show his power, other noblemans will take a notice of him and he can be put on succesion war or something else could happen. That's why probably Lloyd can do his studies, because people don't notice his power. If you think other people don't hold a candle to Lloyd because he's OP and that's why no one will interfere him, not sure why you think so, not all conflicts in fiction or reality will be resolved with raw power when people could have multiple methods to make use of him. This is speculation based on available eps and Lloyd clearly decline the king's offer in this ep. You can watch the pv too and he clearly said that he doesn't care about honor or throne. Lloyd also already said in this eps that it's really hard to supress his mana because of how much he has inside him, imagine if he has to walk with that much mana without hiding it.

@Playmaker45 If Lyod has so much magical energy, it means he is fit to study magic though? There could be annoyances, but there could also be less of them. It would be kinda the perfect reason why he wants to study magic so much and realize his potential.

Also it can be solved via raw power. What are they gonna do? Physically drag him to do what they want? He can snap his fingers and they'd all be roast. He can just do what he wants and ignore them. In the first place, it's none of their business what he does with his time and they wouldn't be able to do a thing about it.

In real life too, if someone had so much power, they could also do whatever they want without care for others.

Thing is, Lloyd is not entirely devoid of appreciation to the people around him, quite the opposite in fact, the anime does a poor job conveying that so far, so he would feel bad and guilty if he was coerced into ruling or doing anything other than study magic.

@glockenspheal i already follow the manga since a year ago and already reread it multiple times. They're pretty much 1:1 adaptation. The earlier pretty much show his psycho side more than his kindness until we meet Jade

@Playmaker45 If Lyod has so much magical energy, it means he is fit to study magic though? There could be annoyances, but there could also be less of them. It would be kinda the perfect reason why he wants to study magic so much and realize his potential.

Also it can be solved via raw power. What are they gonna do? Physically drag him to do what they want? He can snap his fingers and they'd all be roast. He can just do what he wants and ignore them. In the first place, it's none of their business what he does with his time and they wouldn't be able to do a thing about it.

In real life too, if someone had so much power, they could also do whatever they want without care for others.

@Hormoz you literally miss my point that until now Lloyd can enjoy his studies because the other didn't notice him and Albert is the most fit candidate for king currently that's why not one interfere his studies. You also miss that it's hard for him to hide his mana. It's not about whether he is fit to study magic or not, he want to study but doesn't want anyone to interfere him. Also raw power in this context is literally in terms of strength, not including intelligence or other skills and again not sure why you think that with ONLY raw power then the conflict will be resolved. He's not someone who will misuse his power because even though he's psycho in magic aspect, he still has kindness inside him. E.g. in ep 1 where he want to reseal Grimoire because he doesn't want the kingdom to be destroyed. If he doesn't care for the others, then he doesn't have to save Tao or the others in this ep.

@Playmaker45

He didn't really try that much to save them, he was just chilling and playing around when those guys were getting pretty much killed, and then went like "oh I get it, time to test my new magic I guess".

Well, I'd agree he cares about people around him somewhat, albeit he's somewhat naive and oblivious to the state of stuff around him.

Misuse it in what way though? The only way they are gonna force him to do anything other than studying magic is using violence and dragging him out, and they would lose to him on that.

If they try to get him to be king candidate, he can just keep refusing and tell them he wants to be a great mage and that's his decision, so he is gonna keep studying magic. He has the literal magic capacity to back it up too.

@Playmaker45 it's not entirely 1:1; episode 2 omits some lines towards Tao where he corrects her and tells her he was actually paying attention, one of the few changes I haven't liked of the anime at all because it pretty much foregoes the very few intances of Lloyd's true nature before the first upcoming major arc.

@glockenspheal disagree, when Lloyd said goodbye, there's a dialogue where it show that Lloyd want Tao to be stronger/growing more. It showed that he appreciate her in some way.

@Playmaker45 That doesn't change the fact the lines were cut and that many other things have been changed for this adaptation, besides, doesn't your statement pretty much contradicts what you said? Lloyd pretty much shows off his kindness in subtle ways from the beginning, from how he helps and compliments Tao, to how he treats Grim and the others.

To add to the whole argument, Lloyd may be a magic maniac and he could force his way into being a mage and studying magic with sheer power, but that's not who he is, not to mention the way he goes about learning new stuff is by having others teach him, from dual incantation, to chi, to mana transmutation, everything new Lloyd has learned so far has been taught to him by someone else, forcing his way into that would only squander that whole dynamic.

Basically, Lloyd works smarter, not harder, besides, he has pretty much learned everything he can on his own, you'll rarely see come up with anything new by himself.

@glockenspheal Contradicts what? I literally said that earlier chapters showed his psycho side MORE than his kindness, it doesn't mean that i said he's cruel person and doesn't have any kindness. Read properly. I also already said that i reread it multiple times and said to that other person that he's not someone who want to be a big person but some people would think that he can just beat them and silent them by using his power so he can do what he want.

@Playmaker45 My bad, we are on the same page after all, still, I'm a bit frustrated some lines were omitted for the sake of making a good joke and a show of character a pretty lame and tired joke.

I've also re-read the manga more times than I can count, I'm wondering, is there any change you've not liked so far? or what has been your favorite change?

@glockenspheal No, i don't notice any big changes. If there's any, then maybe there's only minor changes so far. I think it's not a big problem because not many new to this series will brainstorming their mind for this type of series or even trying to find small details from the anime unless this anime become mainstream enough for that. 7th Prince is like a fun series with a great cast and engaging plot so as long people still have fun then it shouldn't be a problem.