Why is this getting better treatment than OPM?

mechian said:
I'm perplexed, 3 seasons of good animation with minimal delay between each.

But OPM struggles to get decent animation (after S1) and 4-5 years gap between each.

No question that OPM is the more well known and popular IP.

It also has an official manga by Murata while Mob still has the ugly drawings.

todd2580 said:

It isn’t the case of a reliable anime studio the schedule given by the production committee was tight for J.C.Staff anyways so if it was any other anime studio it could have been worse.

Germs_N_Spices said:


I mean JC Staff was one of few studios pushing out a dozen shows a season. It's not entirely uncorrelated. Most other studios wouldn't even consider stressing their schedules.

Apolygon2 said:
why are most people being stupid in the replies?

madhouse fell off hard after OPM s1, and lost a lot of it's staff. the years after were the years when madhouse was at it's worse, which is why they didn't, no, couldn't take OPM s2. but the show was STUPID popular, which resulted in the producers trying to push it out as soon as a studio was willing to take. and that studio... was a pretty shit one. at least compared to other "big" studios.

S2 really tainted the ip of one punch man, and it was clear that fans didn't want another Jc staff season.

so it never got one... until recently. which I'm guessing is because of the manga, since despite not reading it, i know there is a universe wide fight going on between saitama and the other guy, what was his name, garu? something like that

so yeah, that's the gist of it

ryzxgum said:

i like mob more than OPM but its still crazy to say one "deserves it more" than the other

both deserve the same level of treatment

Etherius_ZS said:


Looks like we meet again

Madhouse had various stages of fallout, none of them are related to One Punch Man.

The first time happened around 2010-2011 when Satsohi Kon died, around the same time Redline ended up being a financial failure, which resulted in them being bought by NTV, unable of having power of their projects, Masao Maruyama left to create Mappa.

The second time was when a lot of the staff realized that they cannot make the projects they wanted to make, somewhere around 2012, a lot of people left, notably Yuasa and Hosoda left to create Science Saru and Chizu respectively.

The third time was somewhere around 2014?-2016? when Hunter X Hunter producer left to create studio VOLN and Death Parade producer left to create studio NUT.

> madhouse fell off hard after OPM s1, and lost a lot of it's staff

A lot of them did work on Acca/Boogiepop/Sonny Boy, basically on all of Shingo Natsume's projects thanks to [https://anilist.co/staff/156867/Yuuichirou-Fukushi]

Apolygon2 said:


I meant show wise.

from 2016-2020 mad house had very little shows, and most of them weren't the best of the best when it came to production.

in 2015 despite their losses they still made opm and death parade, which look amazing.

but after that they didn't make a single show that good looking, untill last years' sonny boy.

my point was after opm s1, mad house wasn't in the place to make s2.

which is true.

your extra information was nice, but it was mostly unrelated and unecessary.

Etherius_ZS said:


> from 2016-2020 mad house had very little shows, and most of them weren't the best of the best when it came to production.
> but after that they didn't make a single show that good looking, untill last years' sonny boy.

Acca 13, Chihayafuru S3, Cardcaptor Sakura sequel, Okko's Inn all look beautiful though. They might not move as much as OPM's action, but they still move and all have way better art direction than OPM. Most of the non-action scenes of OPM are just characters talking with their mouth moving with only 3 frames of animation, something like Acca 13 goes far beyond that with excellent character acting.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=acca%3A_13_ku_kansatsu_ka+character_acting+

Boogiepop was unfortunate for having multiple production issues, first time related to the authors of the novel and then with Kadokawa but despite that multiple webgen animators did work on it. Obviously, it's not as good as the original PV
but it still looks competent.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=boogiepop_wa_warawanai+

>in 2015 despite their losses they still made opm and death parade, which look amazing.
But none of those losses matter in the production of those shows. Most of the studios in the anime industry relies on freelancers and OPM was just another example, Death Parade is a completely different topic as it was a part of the Young Animators Training Project.

>my point was after opm s1, mad house wasn't in the place to make s2.
It's not that Madhouse wasn't in the position to make S2, the studio already had younger directors like Yousuke Hatta (Ousama Ranking), Daiki Hirashina (Monster Strike MV) and Keiichiro Saito (Bocchi the Rock), so they "could" have.

I'm just trying to argue with the first paragraph of your initial post, everything later in your initial post is obviously correct.

Apolygon2 said:


I will admit that I forgot about chihayafuru, but acca 13 didn't have the best production as far as animation goes. I love that show and I think it is visually amazing, but that was because the show had little to know shots that needed a ton of animation, so the art style and directing where enough to make it look great.

they still had good staff, I just don't think they had enough people to animate something as action heavy as OPM.

If you think I'm wrong, then I really want to why you think they didn't take it?

but the show was STUPID popular, which resulted in the producers trying to push it out as soon as a studio was willing to take. and that studio... was a pretty shit one. at least compared to other "big" studios.

madhouse fell off hard after OPM s1, and lost a lot of it's staff. the years after were the years when madhouse was at it's worse, which is why they didn't, no, couldn't take OPM s2.

Etherius_ZS said:


> they still had good staff, I just don't think they had enough people to animate something as action heavy as OPM.

Most animators in the industry are more into action though, it's the character animators that are very rare. How many anime can you think of that has consistent character animation throughout their run? Majority of them are also concentrated around a few studios like KyoAni or Cloverworks. It's also the same reason you see most idol anime resort to CG during their idol performances, obviously there are exceptions like Idolmaster which is from the Yuichi Fukushima team that works at.... Cloverworks.

Regarding not having enough people to animate, that's why freelancers exist and it's also the same reason how S1 was able to be made, so it's upto the animation producer to bring freelancers to work on the anime. The problem here though, is that since they are freelancers, producers from others studios also have connections with them and would like them to work on their own shows, so it all depends upon their scheduling. This is another reason why Boogiepop's production was so unfortunate because Yuzuru Tachikawa (Death Parade dir.) brought a bunch of freelance animators to work on Mob Psycho 100 S2 and few others were scattered among AOT S3 (Arifumi Imai)/Carole & Tuesday (Bahi Jd)/My Hero Academia S4-Movie 2 (Yutaka Nakamura).

> If you think I'm wrong, then I really want to why you think they didn't take it?

As for why they didn't take it, you have already explained majority of it

Natsume and Fukushi moved on to doing something new, which was Acca-13, so they didn't have the "time" to do something else at the same time. I have already said in my previous reply that I was arguing with you because of your

Apolygon2 said:
why are most people being stupid in the replies?

madhouse fell off hard after OPM s1, and lost a lot of it's staff. the years after were the years when madhouse was at it's worse, which is why they didn't, no, couldn't take OPM s2. but the show was STUPID popular, which resulted in the producers trying to push it out as soon as a studio was willing to take. and that studio... was a pretty shit one. at least compared to other "big" studios.

S2 really tainted the ip of one punch man, and it was clear that fans didn't want another Jc staff season.

so it never got one... until recently. which I'm guessing is because of the manga, since despite not reading it, i know there is a universe wide fight going on between saitama and the other guy, what was his name, garu? something like that

so yeah, that's the gist of it

mechian said:
I'm perplexed, 3 seasons of good animation with minimal delay between each.

But OPM struggles to get decent animation (after S1) and 4-5 years gap between each.

No question that OPM is the more well known and popular IP.

It also has an official manga by Murata while Mob still has the ugly drawings.

Adampk said:
Because anime reached manga with not enough chapter left for next season. When anime was at episode 12 manga was at chapter 57 (which basically season 2 adapted in 4 episode). There may be of lot of producer decision, studio or other technical reason behind the scene. In the end, one punch man is unlucky. That about it

Edit - Also one punch man is a more complex story with much more world building and diverse cast in comparison to mob psycho. Whether it has emotional weightage or gag is just genre or type of story imo. Even if one punch man is not good as mob psycho, it is still definitely more popular than mob psycho which is straight up fact. All the people who think mob psycho is better, so it got better adaptation is living in naive bubble fantasy world. As if every better adaptation are their favorite shows lol

Germs_N_Spices said:
OPM is *too* popular for its own good, which is why the producers rushed the second season out with JC Staff instead of booking with a more reliable studio for a later release.

Ewdini said:
did you even see the OPM mangá?
they are dying to animated that, just nonstop fights all the time in this arc

mechian said:
I'm perplexed, 3 seasons of good animation with minimal delay between each.

But OPM struggles to get decent animation (after S1) and 4-5 years gap between each.

No question that OPM is the more well known and popular IP.

It also has an official manga by Murata while Mob still has the ugly drawings.

Etherius_ZS said:


> from 2016-2020 mad house had very little shows, and most of them weren't the best of the best when it came to production.
> but after that they didn't make a single show that good looking, untill last years' sonny boy.

Acca 13, Chihayafuru S3, Cardcaptor Sakura sequel, Okko's Inn all look beautiful though. They might not move as much as OPM's action, but they still move and all have way better art direction than OPM. Most of the non-action scenes of OPM are just characters talking with their mouth moving with only 3 frames of animation, something like Acca 13 goes far beyond that with excellent character acting.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=acca%3A_13_ku_kansatsu_ka+character_acting+

Boogiepop was unfortunate for having multiple production issues, first time related to the authors of the novel and then with Kadokawa but despite that multiple webgen animators did work on it. Obviously, it's not as good as the original PV
but it still looks competent.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=boogiepop_wa_warawanai+

>in 2015 despite their losses they still made opm and death parade, which look amazing.
But none of those losses matter in the production of those shows. Most of the studios in the anime industry relies on freelancers and OPM was just another example, Death Parade is a completely different topic as it was a part of the Young Animators Training Project.

>my point was after opm s1, mad house wasn't in the place to make s2.
It's not that Madhouse wasn't in the position to make S2, the studio already had younger directors like Yousuke Hatta (Ousama Ranking), Daiki Hirashina (Monster Strike MV) and Keiichiro Saito (Bocchi the Rock), so they "could" have.

I'm just trying to argue with the first paragraph of your initial post, everything later in your initial post is obviously correct.

RedCobra75 said:




yeah and we still remember how mad and angry OPM community hear JC staff pick up one punch man for S2. looking the result can't blame the community they were right from the start JC staff is really bad back then compare now after recuit new member.