Sandro8604 said: I just saw one eps. I still don't think it was as bad as everyone says it is. But what happened to the hype. We are hardly at middle of one cour season but literally nobody talking about this. I guess there aren't as many VN fans compared to the Anime community. ๐๐ PS: I am a 'Shonen Mystery Comedy' type Anime fan. Don't read VN. I just found the first ep interesting. Will binge the rest at the end of season. ๐ถ The hype died because majority of the VN community (including me) conclude that this is a shit adaptation. Clearly you haven't read the other threads about this. Why does this thread even exist? |
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| Sorry, but there's nothing to hype. You found the first episode okay because it was an anime original. The following ones just try to badly summarize MLA. You are better off either playing the VN (or watching playthroughs) or just not getting into the franchise. |
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| There wasn't any hype in the first place lmaooo Before it was airing nobody was talking about this, e.g. most anime youtubers did not even mention it. |
Fax001sNov 4, 2021 9:04 AM
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| There was never any hype. Fans of the source material were trashing this anime even before the 1st episode aired. |
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| Nobody was hyped for this. VN fans were scared that it would be rushed (it is), non-VN fans have never heard of the franchise. |
| hype died when we all saw the pv and the people involved in this project |
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| Now that i think about it the show could have gained some popularity this season if it was animated by a "big" studio but with such abysmal production values it's not surprising this is the least popular anime this season. Especially when there are other mecha animes that look so much better. |
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| Any hype this series had was from casual viewers who saw how beloved the vn was. No one coming from the visual novel had big expectations for this production. |
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| The anime community nowadays is a very sour and negative community, at least most people that chill out on MAL. Hell people would probably clown on the Steins Gate adaptation if it was made today. VN fans will never be satisfied with anything and at this point, you just have to accept it. Is it a good adaptation? No, because the studio didn't get to work on the prequels and only got 12 episodes (and possibly 12 more after this) Is it a good anime? Maybe, its got faults but it's enjoyable and lots of anime onlys are enjoying it, which is enough. MAL has a very elitist attitude that already deemed this a failure before even the trailer came out and doesn't reflect the bigger community. All in all, it's not a Clannad or Steins Gate level adaptation but not as bad as Tsukihime or Umineko. Probably along the lines of the Higurashi adaptation (which I'm not a fan of but most people like) |
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FireFistYK said: Is it a good anime? Maybe, its got faults but it's enjoyable and lots of anime onlys are enjoying it, which is enough. This is how I felt about the recent YU-NO anime, which was hyped by nobody and had a score below 7 the entire time it was airing. Fans of the source material complained about the art style, while casuals didn't even know of YU-NO's existence. |
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| Why would there be a hype? It's mecha, genre which isn't popular nowadays, majority VN fanbase hated redesigns since their reveal. |
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firstawa said: I watch muv luuv because i'm just curious how muv luv vn is no.1 vn of all time So, i conclude muv luv vn is better than steins gate and clannad, i wonder how great muv luv story is Without any exaggeration, Muv-Luv Alternative the visual novel is literally the only piece of life-changing art I've come across. I can't comprehend how Steins;Gate got an even remotely close rating to it on VNDB (S;G probably has better art but that's it). You should just go check out the VN if the rating gets you intrigued (this is what got me to read it), though indeed it's not the most beginner-friendly VN, not by a long shot. If the adaptation ends up being passable I can finally have the story in a format I can recommend to people who simply don't have 80 hours to sit through the VN trilogy. |
sho52Nov 7, 2021 9:19 AM
| Sandro8604 said: I just saw one eps. I still don't think it was as bad as everyone says it is. Watch more. The first episode is not the actual show and the least of the problem here. Sandro8604 said: But what happened to the hype. We are hardly at middle of one cour season but literally nobody talking about this. I guess there aren't as many VN fans compared to the Anime community. ๐๐ PS: I am a 'Shonen Mystery Comedy' type Anime fan. Don't read VN. I just found the first ep interesting. Will binge the rest at the end of season. ๐ถ There was no hype, it was worrisome from the beginning. Character designs changed to be safe/generic. Voice actors were recast. Cheap animation. First episode was all original prologue so apparently this is 11 episodes to adapt the entire VN? So around 4 hours to adapt a 60+ hour VN. Will it be more than one cour? This is technically a sequel and they're skipping the first Muv-Luv VN. Its just a mess. |
| I wouldn´t call it hype to be honest. Most of the interested people were the ones who tried the VN, but that was all you get from them: interest. simple curiosity. There was an interest for how much of a mess they would get with this adaptation. Of course there were probably some people who were hyping it as if it was gonna get the SnK treatment, but they should be a really small minority. Said this, I think you should try the VN (Muv luv extra, unlimited and alternative), even if you watch just the gameplays "but it´s too long" I dont wanna be that guy, but I dont see any good reason to not experience such an amazing story properly. You seem to have some sort of inmunity for silly romcoms like all of us enjoying muv luv extra (or at least tolerance) and Steins Gate is among your favorite anime so you could give it a chance. Believe me, the anime version is not making it justice. It´s up to you. |
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MichaelJackson said: I wouldn´t call it hype to be honest. Most of the interested people were the ones who tried the VN, but that was all you get from them: interest. simple curiosity. There was an interest for how much of a mess they would get with this adaptation. Of course there were probably some people who were hyping it as if it was gonna get the SnK treatment, but they should be a really small minority. Said this, I think you should try the VN (Muv luv extra, unlimited and alternative), even if you watch just the gameplays "but it´s too long" I dont wanna be that guy, but I dont see any good reason to not experience such an amazing story properly. You seem to have some sort of inmunity for silly romcoms like all of us enjoying muv luv extra (or at least tolerance) and Steins Gate is among your favorite anime so you could give it a chance. Believe me, the anime version is not making it justice. It´s up to you. Let's be honest. Muv luv already ruined since the introduction of Total Eclipse anime. That anime spoiled too much about TSF and BETA stuff. The fact that most anime only will consume anything animated doesn't help either. This is as equivalent to introduce Sword Art Online Alternative Gun Gale Online then adapt Sword Art Online 9 years later but start with Alicization arc as the first entry episode. |
barthosNov 8, 2021 11:28 PM
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| Back then I remember thinking that the only tangible hype that might've existed was when there was some moderate media coverage that AOT's Isayama was inspired by Muv Luv Alternative, and thinking that it would blow up in the West at least by the time the MLA anime aired. But mostly I thought that by the time the final AOT season aired there'd be immense shit-flinging between the two fandoms, but for better or worse MLA is only 12 eps long so it wouldn't air side-by-side into January. |
Kamikaze470 said: But mostly I thought that by the time the final AOT season aired there'd be immense shit-flinging between the two fandoms I totally thought this would happen regardless of how the Muv-Luv anime turned out. |
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| How can something that does not exist be hyped? sho52 said: firstawa said: I watch muv luuv because i'm just curious how muv luv vn is no.1 vn of all time So, i conclude muv luv vn is better than steins gate and clannad, i wonder how great muv luv story is Without any exaggeration, Muv-Luv Alternative the visual novel is literally the only piece of life-changing art I've come across. I can't comprehend how Steins;Gate got an even remotely close rating to it on VNDB (S;G probably has better art but that's it). You should just go check out the VN if the rating gets you intrigued (this is what got me to read it), though indeed it's not the most beginner-friendly VN, not by a long shot. If the adaptation ends up being passable I can finally have the story in a format I can recommend to people who simply don't have 80 hours to sit through the VN trilogy. Don't act like your taste is some objective ranking. To other people, Steins; Gate could be life changing to them. Taste between people differ. To me, MLA is good, but far from life-changing and far from the top of my VN list. VNDB just represents the average rating and the taste of the average person. Doesn't mean everyone will agree with it. |
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Nemesis2005 said: How can something that does not exist be hyped? sho52 said: Without any exaggeration, Muv-Luv Alternative the visual novel is literally the only piece of life-changing art I've come across. I can't comprehend how Steins;Gate got an even remotely close rating to it on VNDB (S;G probably has better art but that's it). You should just go check out the VN if the rating gets you intrigued (this is what got me to read it), though indeed it's not the most beginner-friendly VN, not by a long shot. If the adaptation ends up being passable I can finally have the story in a format I can recommend to people who simply don't have 80 hours to sit through the VN trilogy. Don't act like your taste is some objective ranking. To other people, Steins; Gate could be life changing to them. Taste between people differ. To me, MLA is good, but far from life-changing and far from the top of my VN list. VNDB just represents the average rating and the taste of the average person. Doesn't mean everyone will agree with it. Yep totally. It has to do with everybody's life circumstances and the moment in life they came across a VN etc. Maybe the way I formulated it sounded a bit strong, though I was for sure only expressing my subjective opinion and enthusiasm (thus "I've come across") and my recommendation to the others based on my subjective perception and reasoning. Nobody can do anything beyond this. Steins;Gate was inspired by Alternative in many ways but to me it feels something that in the end just presented a nice and easy-to-digest story while losing all the soul and moral lessons ("preachy stuff" you may say) of Alternative. I was actually in the middle of writing a review on VNDB regarding this point lol but yeah I'd rather not dwell on it here. I still gave it a 9 in the end and I can easily imagine many people rating it higher than Alternative for various reasons, which is fine with me. The reason why I think the ranking is still helpful is that it could serve as an indicator of the general quality of something, but I totally agree that everybody's take on a story would be unique and I believe people can have a fruitful discussion as long as they're respecting each other's perspective and circumstances. |
sho52Nov 12, 2021 2:23 AM
| I'm not sure how you can think Steins;Gate was inspired by Alternative at all. Steins; Gate is mainly based on quantum physics and conspiracy theories, and adding some fantasy elements into it. |
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| I guess every anime and visual novels with quantum physics in it are now inspired on Muv-luv alternative then. No, MLA must have invented quantum physics just like how Jojo invented breathing. |
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