Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
| The most common reason I see in the metric ton of "Why do you hate Subaru?" threads, by far, is that he is annoying. Not to sound biased, but what makes him annoying? His appearance, poses, voice, etc. If you don't find him annoying, feel free to explain why. I'd prefer if this didn't divulge into a toxic mess, so PLEASE BE CIVIL. |
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| I voted "in between". Unlike some anime characters, it's no accident. He's supposed to be annoying. There's a certain event in the middle of season 1 where Subaru goes full cringe and I think this is the point where many people decide they hate him. He's a very insecure guy who masks his insecurity with bravado and humor. I tend to believe most of the hate comes because it hits a little too close to home for comfort. |
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| It's pretty simple really, people fall in to a few camps, you got the noralities of the world who achknolage he's the 'bad guy' fro large portion of the story but still hate him because he somehow embodys some sort of fantasy. There's those who relate to him a little to much and find that hard to deal with so translate it into 'annoyance' which is nothing new, it happened with Shinji and many others, and it always will. And then there's those who realise it's intentional, while also realising that the writer intends to show a better way forward, to go advice to those people who relate and to show one possible way forward from that 'cringyness'. Those people are the ones who've probably gotten the most out of the story as their opinion is most accurate to the point of the story. There is of course outliers, but I think those are the main ones. Subaru isn't annoying, he's relatable👍. |
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| His simping towards Emilia. Especially at the early parts of the story. However, he went a long way and now he is completely different character than he was at the start. He is still simping, but at least it feels justified and that he earned his spot as Emilia's knight. |
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Cobalt-Blue said: Subaru isn't annoying. He's insecure, depressed and hides his sadness and self hatred with comedy and genki although in reality that is Natsuki Subaru. He's a loser with golden heart. He wants to save everyone around him because they're important to him. Subaru isn't alone anymore and he wants to give back to people that didn't abandon him once they got bored. He earned their respect. Subaru, Hachiman, Tomozaki, Kazuya... They all hit really close to home to me and I feel like the Anime industry is more intimate with it's audience then any other medium. That's a really nice way of putting, I've often thought one of anime biggest draws is the fact it's willing to be a little more mature with younger audiences then western media generally is, rezeros defo a good example of, where it's happy to citiz Subaru's mind set but also to show that he can become a better person😊👍 |
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Cobalt-Blue said: momentie said: That's a really nice way of putting, I've often thought one of anime biggest draws is the fact it's willing to be a little more mature with younger audiences then western media generally is, rezeros defo a good example of, where it's happy to citiz Subaru's mind set but also to show that he can become a better person😊👍 I don't wanna drag it but a little? I feel like its a LOT more mature. Especially comparing most cartoons and even live action shows in the west compared to Anime. I've never watched a western show or movie and thought about it months and years after like I have with Anime. Also the audiences are different to 14-35 is what id consider the majority of anime watchers to been while with cartoons and kids programming is 16 and down, especially in 2021. Add in the cultural differences in too and is basically the complete opposite approach. Oh ya sure, I agree completely, 25 years on and stuff like evangellion (which anno himself has said was pretty much aimed a teens) is still being disscussed and dissected for example. Heck even anime that's truely aimed at kids can be way more profound then their western equivalents. The original Digimon adventure, as well as Digimon tamers are both genuinely good shows that I can still appreciate the quality of as an adult and that's an impressive thing that I can't say about much from the western shows that I watched as a kid |
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DionysianCryptid said: I agree with that person who said he's supposed to be annoying but honestly, it doesn't make him any less annoying. That in addition to somehow being an incel that every girl wants. I'm interested, if your aware he can be written annoying intentially then do you think that's a bad thing if it serves the story being told? I wouldn't call him an incel lol, poor guy is just an awkward teen. By the time any of the girls start likeing him it's because they've only seen his best side. From say Rem and Beatrice's points of view he's never done anything even remotely 'incely'. Other then them it's just emaila. Now if we consider the 'whos rem' and the fact Beatrice doesn't seem to have any sort of sexual feelings for him then we're down to just emila(and rem if they ever get her memories back), so at present that 1,hardly 'every girl want's him. Just saying. |
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| He didn't feel annoying to me cause its something one would do if they get transported to a fantasy land. |
| Maybe because he thought that he would become an overpowered main character in his new world? Maybe that's why he was annoying in the 1st season. |
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DionysianCryptid said: I agree with that person who said he's supposed to be annoying but honestly, it doesn't make him any less annoying. That in addition to somehow being an incel that every girl wants. Subaru didn't get Rem and Emilia because he was an incel. He almost completely ruined his chances with Emilia at the halfway mark, and spent the entire season building it back up and learning to be a functional person. I don't think Subaru was ever remotely an incel. |
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| I imagine a lot of awkward teenage boys see themselves in him, and I imagine the not-teenage-boys find those same characteristics obnoxious and cringey. |
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| Because he rejected their waifu rem I think people find him annoying because the show purposely made him cringe at times, which is part of his character development. Mainly episode 13. Also because of his attitude towards Emilia. To be honest, I also would like to see more development between Subaru and Emilia that could justify Subaru's love for Emilia a little more. But besides that, I think Subaru is an awesome character who should get more love. |
DrPirahna said: Zodazzle said: I found him annoying in first season cause he never thoroughly thought and made plans.I expected for him to start using some magic traps since he knows future and thought he would get calm when dying near the ending of the show.He kept swirling into a mistake with half ass weak plans and it irritated me how he plans in including people without saying before what can happen to them...The most common reason I see in the metric ton of "Why do you hate Subaru?" threads, by far, is that he is annoying. Not to sound biased, but what makes him annoying? His appearance, poses, voice, etc. If you don't find him annoying, feel free to explain why. I'd prefer if this didn't divulge into a toxic mess, so PLEASE BE CIVIL. Almost like he's an imperfect 16-year-old who is both not a pro tactician, a human being who feels pain, and an idiot like every other 16-year-old. |
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DrPirahna said: Zodazzle said: he is 17 at beginning and I was 16 when I watched that anime with suicide attempt and bad grades.Still then had 1000x more detailed plans then him.Almost like he's an imperfect 16-year-old who is both not a pro tactician, a human being who feels pain, and an idiot like every other 16-year-old. ...Good for you...? I don't know how I'm supposed to respond to that without feeling icky. |
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| He was too energetic and I cringed at him a lot in season 1 but after season 2 I stopped hating him |
| Those who hate Subaru clearly haven't payed attention to the story and just watched the show for Rem. And I don't take those people seriously at all and I don't even bother with them. And those who say "ThEy CoUlD mAkE bEtTeR pLaNs ThAn HiM" are clearly 12 year olds. |
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DrPirahna said: Zodazzle said: he is 17 at beginning and I was 16 when I watched that anime with suicide attempt and bad grades.Still then had 1000x more detailed plans then him.Almost like he's an imperfect 16-year-old who is both not a pro tactician, a human being who feels pain, and an idiot like every other 16-year-old. BRUH he is a shut in.Not a military strategist.He had huge responsibilities shouldered upon him.How can you remain calm with that? |
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Zodazzle said: The most common reason I see in the metric ton of "Why do you hate Subaru?" threads, by far, is that he is annoying. Not to sound biased, but what makes him annoying? His appearance, poses, voice, etc. If you don't find him annoying, feel free to explain why. I'd prefer if this didn't divulge into a toxic mess, so PLEASE BE CIVIL. He is annoying to a lot of people because he is a simp and the audience that finds him annoying knows very well that Subaru is just like them. Please, don't be like Subaru. I'm pretty sure he is telling you guys that. |
"Humans are like isolated islands, floating in the sea of fate. Human encounters are like the collision of these lonely islands, and once they touch, there would be an effect. Sometimes, the islands would stick together, in the name of ‘interest’, ‘kinship’, ‘friendship’, ‘love’ and ‘hate’. But eventually, they would separate, walking towards the path of destruction. This is the truth behind life." -Fang Yuan |
cupcake847 said: Zodazzle said: The most common reason I see in the metric ton of "Why do you hate Subaru?" threads, by far, is that he is annoying. Not to sound biased, but what makes him annoying? His appearance, poses, voice, etc. If you don't find him annoying, feel free to explain why. I'd prefer if this didn't divulge into a toxic mess, so PLEASE BE CIVIL. He is annoying to a lot of people because he is a simp and the audience that finds him annoying knows very well that Subaru is just like them. Please, don't be like Subaru. I'm pretty sure he is telling you guys that. I actually disagree that he is a simp, but you do you. |
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