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AceSoldia said:
So...if she was the one he wanted resurrected..it wouldn't make sense that he did everything if she was actually alive to start with..it HAS to be someone else he wanted.

It was said already that Clow had that wish and FWR tried to fulfil that wish.

And she was not alive. She neither dead neither alive.

Aug 4, 2009 5:43 AM

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Fai said:

AceSoldia said:
So...if she was the one he wanted resurrected..it wouldn't make sense that he did everything if she was actually alive to start with..it HAS to be someone else he wanted.

It was said already that Clow had that wish and FWR tried to fulfil that wish.

And she was not alive. She neither dead neither alive.

Technically she was already dead, it was just cuz her time was frozen. When Yuuko "died" in xxxholic and tsubasa - it wasn't actually her "dying" it was just that the time was unfrozen.

I cried during the reunion scene, especially when Kurugane told C!Sakura and C!Syaoran to not dissapear a second time *sniffle* so touching~

BlauBlume said:
Now I know what CLAMP have been doing during their vacation. THEY PLAYED THE UMINEKO VN.

Please don't insult TRC like that >_>..

I think we all know that CLAMP had planned everything from the very beginning - I say that their break was to check if they have any plot holes.

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Aug 4, 2009 5:55 AM

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Wow...two chapters in two consecutive weeks. That's got to be a record or something. =P

Anyway, decent chapters. The reunion wasn't as heartfelt as I thought it'd be. I'm curious to see how berserk Fei Wong is going to get.

Aug 4, 2009 6:30 AM

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robbydesu said:

BlauBlume said:
Now I know what CLAMP have been doing during their vacation. THEY PLAYED THE UMINEKO VN.

Please don't insult TRC like that >_>..

I think we all know that CLAMP had planned everything from the very beginning - I say that their break was to check if they have any plot holes.

now i see there's someone who can't take a joke.
plus who needs insult with that parents=clones twist pulled off ? XD

Aug 4, 2009 6:31 AM

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BlauBlume said:

robbydesu said:

BlauBlume said:
Now I know what CLAMP have been doing during their vacation. THEY PLAYED THE UMINEKO VN.

Please don't insult TRC like that >_>..

I think we all know that CLAMP had planned everything from the very beginning - I say that their break was to check if they have any plot holes.

now i see there's someone who can't take a joke.

Ha....ha...ha.

It's quite hard to tell if something is a joke or not in writing...online. Maybe it would'ved helped if you added a happy face or a plain ol' "jk"? XD

Aug 4, 2009 7:06 AM

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YES. I knew it! :D

Good chapter, although the reunion wasn't quite all that I was expecting. Aw well. It's great to finally really get back to the gang. :)

Aug 4, 2009 7:09 AM

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haha okay, so he was trying to fulfill clow reed's wish (sorry i forgot about that)

That just makes FWR a sad..man..and hard to take him as this crazy bad evil guy..is he just gonna go berserk or what? Yuuko is gone.

Aug 4, 2009 7:25 AM

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AceSoldia said:
haha okay, so he was trying to fulfill clow reed's wish (sorry i forgot about that)

That just makes FWR a sad..man..and hard to take him as this crazy bad evil guy..is he just gonna go berserk or what? Yuuko is gone.

and now take it other way around with xxxholic:

If FWR is either

. I am going more for the latter case, but the fact that we still do not know the real name of Syaoran makes me think that its the former case...

Aug 4, 2009 9:52 AM

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Fai said:

and now take it other way around with xxxholic:

If FWR is either

. I am going more for the latter case, but the fact that we still do not know the real name of Syaoran makes me think that its the former case...

Oh hell at your spoiler, that thought never occured to me! Thats a very interesting prediction. o_o

I loved the reunion, and Kurogane acting like a Daddy~ Aww xD It got me teary eyed.

Aug 4, 2009 11:13 AM

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crap..i forgot about your spoiler too...that concerns me now..>_<....maybe it's something funny like keroberos?

Aug 4, 2009 1:01 PM

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Confused forever with this. x____x' I still don't get why the fact that the clones reunited with everyone is going to break the cycle. D:

Aug 4, 2009 1:15 PM

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I don't know why is people so surprised that Fei Wong Reed wants to resurrect Yuuko since Yuuko herself said that was his motive back when she reincarnated the clones... or maybe it was a chapter of Holic... I don't remember now.
It will be interesting to see what will Fei Wong do now that Yuuko doesn't exist on any world. He turned the time back once when Syaoran wished, but I wonder if he can pull that alone witouth anyone wishing for it.
About what Fai sais

Aug 4, 2009 1:30 PM

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Maybe Yuuko is a different version of the original Sakura. Then, Fei Wong can just manipulate her life more by making her turn into Yuuko. Sakura will turn brunette, tall, and have powerful magic.

Aug 4, 2009 1:34 PM

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confuser987 said:
Maybe Yuuko is a different version of the original Sakura. Then, Fei Wong can just manipulate her life more by making her turn into Yuuko. Sakura will turn brunette, tall, and have powerful magic.

I really doubt that because they don't look the same at all...

Besides, all of the Sakura's are already powerful anyways (R!Sakura, C!Sakura/Mommy Sakura, and CCS! Sakura)

Aug 4, 2009 2:21 PM

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alright so we finally have confirmation on who FWR wanted to resurrect (but it was a possibility that most of us already thought was true anyway so nothing really new there)
and we had a nice reunion. and of course Faye would know. he knows everything but never says it lol.
but now... Yuuko's dead in every world? why do i feel like that's not possible? particularly since we know some other worlds can be from different times? she must be a baby somewhere... no?
but yeah i still don't get how the clones returning stops the cycle... it must have something to do with the thing he stopped rotating? i kept thinking CSS-Sakura's wand would do it but that was already used for something else... hmm

Aug 4, 2009 3:13 PM

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Great ep. Finally we see Fye and Kurogane again... op... and Mokona too.

Do Fei Wang wants to revive Yuuko???

Waiting for chapter 227

Aug 4, 2009 3:31 PM

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robbydesu said:

I really doubt that because they don't look the same at all...

Besides, all of the Sakura's are already powerful anyways (R!Sakura, C!Sakura/Mommy Sakura, and CCS! Sakura)

I made this comment because my prediction of Fei Wong reviving Yukko was based on another prediction that Fei Wong/Yukko are Syaroan/Sakura.
I made one right guess, but made a wrong reason which is Yukko being Sakura, making a parallelism.

Besides, I don't think Watanuki looks like Fei Wong or Syaroan. But he does look like Clow.

And the similiarities between Sakura and Yuuko.
1. (You are rite that Sakura is already powerful) Sakura and Yukko makes/wants dreams/wishes to come true by paying a price.
2. Have faithful companions.(Syaroan, Fai, and Kurogane & Wakanuki and the twins)
3. Have Powerful magic
4. Are Bishojo(Sense of Beauty). :)

Also, it looks like this will turn out like Noein. LOL. JK. It won't be like it.

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So the one Wei Fang Reed wanted to res was Yuuko...

And the reason Yuuko died was to help end the infinite loop of Syaoran being cloned and the clones giving birth to him...

But this loop wouldn't have existed if Wei didn't interfere in the first place...

So Wei created the loop to find a way to res Yuuko, who was perfectly fine (even though her time was frozen), then Yuuko sacrificed her life to end this loop...

So if Wei didn't do shit, then the status quo would've been maintained and all this crap wouldn't have happened.

I know, right? That really seems to be the case.

And if Watanuki is FWR or Clow, that means real Syaoran is too...? o_o

Aug 4, 2009 6:46 PM

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robbydesu said:

I really doubt that because they don't look the same at all...

Besides, all of the Sakura's are already powerful anyways (R!Sakura, C!Sakura/Mommy Sakura, and CCS! Sakura)

As creative as the idea is, there is no substantial proof that Fei Wong is Syaoran or like Syaoran.

As for the similarities between Sakura and Yuuko:

1. Yuuko is the only one who makes others' wishes/dreams come true by exchanging it for a price. Sakura doesn't do that, she only tries to change the inevitable future that she doesn't want to happen. The fact that she's a dreamseer is irrelavant because many of CLAMP characters are dreamseers.

2. True they have faithful companions, but I don't think that's a valid comparision. Watanuki has faithful comparions - you don't see me saying that Watanuki and Sakura are the same XD

3. Yuuko has magic. Sakura is just powerful. BUt if you're going to go that route - there are many characters that are powerful/have magic. Like Fai, Tomoyo-hime, Granny (xxxholic), Kohane-chan, Watanuki, R!Syaoran, Mommy Sakura, Daddy Syaoran....the list goes on..

4. Same reasoning as #2 - there are a handful of bishoujos in xxxholic and tsubasa :P

Aug 4, 2009 6:48 PM

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BlauBlume said:
Now I know what CLAMP have been doing during their vacation. THEY PLAYED THE UMINEKO VN.

lol, The first thing I though with the "revive the witch" was also Beatrice, even more considering they've the same seiyuu ;P

Aug 4, 2009 7:39 PM

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Oh my goooooosssh!!! So FWR said it!!! He wanted to rivive Yuuko... But she's gone from all the worlds.... Kewl... That pretty much proves the fact that Yuuko is gone forever... So C! S+S (alias mommy and daddy) are here to break the loop... the loop that obviously FWR provoked since ages ago.... Just like in TMoHS.... they're going through the same stuff over and over non stop... that's quite a life... Neways.... This chapter turned out to be good... The reunion was cute... not as emotive it could have been, but kewl... And the part with R! and C! Syaorans was disturbing... It was like CLAMP was trying to pull off a shounen-ai in the middle of the battle...*shudders*
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Aug 4, 2009 11:51 PM

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this is too twisted....
clones reuninon wast that great...
looks lik FWR is bersek now

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Aug 5, 2009 2:34 AM

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I have to agree with robbydesu on the Watanuki/Syaoran = FWR theory.. It just goes against the plot. If FWR kills any of the two he too would cease to exist, right? Plus, he was there since the beggining along with Clow and Yuuko whilst Watanuki/Syaoran wasn't even.. 'Born' yet..

Aug 5, 2009 5:40 AM

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i donno, i don't think watanuki has it in himself to become FWR, neither of Syaoran or Watanuki has the incentive to 'resurrect yuuko' right? Even so,

Aug 5, 2009 6:05 AM

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robbydesu said:

I really doubt that because they don't look the same at all...

Besides, all of the Sakura's are already powerful anyways (R!Sakura, C!Sakura/Mommy Sakura, and CCS! Sakura)

But then again, Watanuki does not look like Syaoran, does he? :)

My bet:

Aug 5, 2009 6:40 AM

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Hmm..

Need I repeat myself? Yuuko, Clow and FWR are the past and Syaoran, Sakura and Watanuki are the future.. So how could they be the same persons? Now, the loop only began at the advent of Yuuko's death so don't give me that reason.. Plus the loop only goes from the beggining of TRC to the present situation.. XD Remember, Yuuko, Clow and FWR are from before all of these, before the taboo wish and the loop.

Aug 5, 2009 7:36 AM

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Fai said:

robbydesu said:

I really doubt that because they don't look the same at all...

Besides, all of the Sakura's are already powerful anyways (R!Sakura, C!Sakura/Mommy Sakura, and CCS! Sakura)

But then again, Watanuki does not look like Syaoran, does he? :)

My bet:

Watanuki isn't the same as Syaoran. I think I've mentioned this several times before. It was emphasized in xxxholic and tsubasa several times too. Watanuki is Watanuki.

Aug 5, 2009 7:38 AM

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Errr, I suggest you delete your other posts before a moderator complains XD

Aug 5, 2009 6:05 PM

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robbydesu said:

Fai said:

robbydesu said:

I really doubt that because they don't look the same at all...

Besides, all of the Sakura's are already powerful anyways (R!Sakura, C!Sakura/Mommy Sakura, and CCS! Sakura)

But then again, Watanuki does not look like Syaoran, does he? :)

My bet:

Watanuki isn't the same as Syaoran. I think I've mentioned this several times before. It was emphasized in xxxholic and tsubasa several times too. Watanuki is Watanuki.

Robbydesu is rite. Watanuki is Watanuki. He just fills Syaoran's place.

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Fai said:

and now take it other way around with xxxholic:

If FWR is either

. I am going more for the latter case, but the fact that we still do not know the real name of Syaoran makes me think that its the former case...

So why doesn't FWR take Sakura as she is?

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Again, once and for all, unless there is some hint(which CLAMP gives in droves, although most are not for mortal minds.. XD) that Sakura is some other person or FWR is either one or the other of the male protagonist of xxxHoLIc or TRC.. Then Yuuko = Sakura or FWR = Syaoran or Watanuki = FWR are paradoxes too extreme even for CLAMP.

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Again, once and for all, unless there is some hint(which CLAMP gives in droves, although most are not for mortal minds.. XD) that Sakura is some other person or FWR is either one or the other of the male protagonist of xxxHoLIc or TRC.. Then Yuuko = Sakura or FWR = Syaoran or Watanuki = FWR are paradoxes too extreme even for CLAMP.

Agreed :)

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If FWR is either

. I am going more for the latter case, but the fact that we still do not know the real name of Syaoran makes me think that its the former case...

If you put it that way,we don't know Watanuki's real name either. Yuuko once said that "Kimihiro Watanuki" is only a fake name assigned to him in order to protect him from someone(that "someone" is FWR himself,I'm guessing?). And he made a choice to WAIT for Yuuko. Once made a choice,one can neither turn back nor redo it(right? XD). I don't see the point why SYAORAN would want to revive Yuuko though.

Aug 6, 2009 6:58 AM

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I'm not even going to try to comprehend.

I think it's more likely that Fei Wong Reed is Clow or Watanuki though.

Aug 6, 2009 1:08 PM

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I'm not even going to try to comprehend.

I think it's more likely that Fei Wong Reed is Clow or Watanuki though.

It would be very strange if Watanuki actually becomes Yuuko herself. JK.

FWR being Clow... That sounds like a demonic entity being a holy deity. Now the logic is more twisted as what FWR doing to the worlds as more as FWR being Watanuki.

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How many times must it be rubbed in that Yuuko's dead? TT_TT

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