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Aria-da-Capo | Feb 17, 2017 12:22 AM
I just watched Manchester by the Sea, so now I've watched all the best picture nominees, and as far as personal enjoyment goes, it's number 2 after La La Land.I hope it wins best actor and best screenplay. |
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Squirtroll | Feb 16, 2017 11:09 PM
I don't like any of the best picture nominees. Sad!La la land and Hacksaw Ridge were the least boring so I'd go with one of those. |
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karambia | Feb 13, 2017 11:44 PM
Definitely, Casey affleck is great manchester by the sea |
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Thedude3445 | Feb 12, 2017 6:07 AM
I really hope Hell or High Water wins Best Original Screenplay. There aren't any awards it's up for that are feasible to win, but it was such a damn good movie that it deserves something. |
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karambia | Feb 12, 2017 12:12 AM
So matt reeves(cloverfield, dawn of planet of the apes) is gonna take the batman's director job replaces batfleck(he stepped down in late january). Opinion? Care or not care? |
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truisms | Feb 10, 2017 11:38 AM
@midgardsormi think it's good but it's not anything astounding |
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Midgardsorm | Feb 9, 2017 1:50 PM
@Aria-da-CapoPersonally, I think "La La Land" is downright average. It would be hilarious if after all that hype it only won a couple of Oscars in less important categories. It happened before - "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" got 13 nominations and won 3, while "The Color Purple" received 11 nominations and won nothing. |
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Aria-da-Capo | Feb 9, 2017 12:07 AM
Just watched Moonlight, yeah, it deserves that award. But I fear that if La La Land wins, it will get a lot of undeserved hate. Personally, I loved them both. |
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truisms | Feb 8, 2017 1:35 PM
@midgardsorminteresting, makes sense. was a weird choice for sure - i haven't heard anyone even mention the movie since it won. wouldn't be surprised if there were more black artists winning this time too - moonlight in particular would have a strong claim |
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Midgardsorm | Feb 7, 2017 8:35 PM
hebiSmoker & truismsFrom what I remember, the year that "The King's Speech" won, the political situation between USA and Great Britain wasn't very good (or at leas there was something going on between those countries) so apparently the academy took it upon themselves to fix that by awarding a movie that was co-produced by GB. Which is also why I fully sxpect to see couple of black artists winning an Oscar - after what happened last year. Acting categories might even be dominated by black actors: Viola Davis, Mahershala Ali and Denzel Washington all won SAG awards for their roles. Barry Jenkins might also get something for "Moonlight" (for screenplay or direction). |
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truisms | Feb 7, 2017 7:31 AM
@midgardsormthe king's speech was a bad choice by ANY metric though - it doesn't appeal to most viewers but it also isn't that appealing as a movie, period, regardless of what direction your tastes skew in. (but i agree, any of those movies would have been more deserving) i'm not suggesting they always select the most popular movies, but let's also not act like the academy is trying to be an arbiter of good taste and is constantly choosing left-field underdog arthouse favorites as best picture, because they aren't. most of the movies nominated for best picture, in any year, have been commercially successful and widely discussed |
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karambia | Feb 7, 2017 7:21 AM
@Midgardsorm - I knew they care but I don't think they should bother, put much effort and energy on that part. as I remember slightly their rating still a considerable high, af, even if it hit the lowest in recent years. Whatever they'll put on screen, there's also consideration for ppl more interesting just to follow internet podcast, wake up in the morning to see the result rather than sit through the boring night(outside the uninterested viewer) the number always could be improve, naturally, rather than push something the like james cameron suggest, if it deserve in front of voters, than that is, popular or not that should count 2nd advantage in business . truisms already have clear argument about that imo except if it was "money talking" like u're said by guessing. solely for profiteering the award, then yeah the money always right tho' these award got many political and critical pushed especially in recent years, that we can see affect/will affect their accountability and credibility whether it was good or not, In the end the award itself still was a popularity and favoritism contest among the academy members(voters) themselves. |
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Midgardsorm | Feb 6, 2017 8:40 PM
@truismsTo be fair, in some cases the competition wasn't that strong. For example when "Slumdog" won in 2009, when "The Hurt Locker" won in 2010 and some might also argue when "Crash" won in 2006 (even though "Brokeback Mountain", "Munich" and "Good Night and Good Luck" came out the same year). But "Shakespeare in Love" won over "Saving Private Ryan" or "The Thin Red Line" - and most of all, "The King's Speech" won even though "Black Swan", "Inception" and "The Social Network" were also competing in the best picture category. @hebiSmoker Apparently they care since every year they try to come up with new tricks to draw people towards the screen. I don't know the details but maybe they get a % of the money that comes from the ratings. Or maybe the broadcaster won't be willing to renew the contract if the ratings keep going down which also will put them in a worse position during the negotiation with other broadcasters. I don't know - just guessing. |
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karambia | Feb 5, 2017 7:43 PM
Tha's just different side of the same coin of bs from james. I wonder why these academy should be bother with high rating anyway. |
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truisms | Feb 5, 2017 5:00 PM
@Squirtrollnot even, that's idiotic. titanic is one of the most popular movies ever released, obviously there are going to be high ratings for that, but that doesn't mean the majority of movies nominated for awards aren't popular or at least widely discussed. should the duty of the academy be "We will give all the awards to the movies that made the most money, stacked and counted, to avoid accidentally suggesting to a viewer they might not have impeccable taste."? Like, titanic won. forrest gump won. lord of the rings won. and most of the movies that DO win aren't exactly arthouse standards or the most acclaimed movies by that standard anyways |
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Midgardsorm | Feb 5, 2017 12:25 PM
@SquirtrollThe list of Academy's sins is longer. They don't reward people who deserve it for some silly reason ("they're black", "we don't like him", "he will get his chance in the future") or they're trying to give something to everyone. People say that to get an Oscar you need to make a movie either about the Holocaust or Hollywood itself. Going back to "La La Land" - is it just me or after "Birdman" directors started to overuse long shots? |
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Squirtroll | Feb 5, 2017 11:44 AM
James Cameron isn't pleased with the powers that be at the Academy Awards. Speaking to The Daily Beast, Cameron responded to a question about why the ceremony hasn't bested its ratings records from 1998, the year Titanic swept the board; with Cameron offering the explanation that the Oscars show a particular bias towards popular, blockbuster films. "There have been a few times throughout the history of the Oscars where a wildly popular film was well-received, but your typical year the Academy takes the position of: It is our patrician duty to tell the great unwashed what they should be watching,” and they don’t reward the films that people really want to see—that they’re paying money to go see—and they’re telling them, “Yeah, you think you like that, but what you should be liking is this.” And as long as the Academy sees that as their duty, don’t expect high ratings." Cameron stated. 100% agreed. Less and less people are watching the Oscar's cause most of the time, they just nominate unpopular boring films that only cater to hardcore film buffs. |
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Midgardsorm | Feb 4, 2017 7:48 PM
OH MY GOD! The club is still alive!!!As far as the most talked about movies are concerned, I've watched "Hell or High Water", "La La Land", "Arrival", "Hacksaw Ridge". I'm still waiting for "Silence" and "Fences" to come to my country (the second one doesn't even have an official release date so I'm not sure whether I will be able to see it in the cinema) - I'm not interested in "Manchester by the Sea", "Lion" and I don't think I'm interested in "Moonlight" enough to watch it in the cinema. Regarding Musicals, I agree with AADMC that Hollywood used to make great ones, like "Grease", "Singing in the Rain", "Fiddler on the Roof" or "Chicago" but in my opinion "La La Land" cannot be compared to those titles and giving it an Oscar would be absurd. Then again, nothing will surprise me. Generally, I don't care about the awards - I find it ridiculous that after the nominees are revealed the voters can be swayed by a promotional or smear campaign. Not to mention the discrimination of minorities by the academy. Also, over the years I discovered that in most cases I tend to agree with the HFPA picks. |
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Tenth | Feb 3, 2017 2:30 PM
Well this sucks... http://www.imdb.com/board/announcement |
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mochakawaiibear | Feb 3, 2017 1:57 PM
@hebismoker @AADMC thanks for the welcome, I'll try to enjoy my stay! |