I feel like I'm in the minority here on MAL, and that's kinda depressing. Madoka Magica by and large is one of those programmes which receives no shortage of praise that I simply can't agree with one way or the other. I wouldn't mind it so much were it not for the fact that any sort of valid criticism or complaints anyone has with this series is instantly lost in a sea of downvotes and angry rants made by rabid fans who're breathing heavily whilst typing on their keyboards rapidly. Regardless, I'll make a feeble attempt at getting my voice heard. Will it work? Probably
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not, but it's still worth a try.
What really baffles me is how Madoka Magica is a moe drama along the lines of Elfen Lied and yet people praise Madoka ad nauseum whilst talking shit about Elfen Lied at every available opportunity. Even people like JesuOtaku who generally have no patience for moe dramas ended up giving this programme a glowing review despite the fact that Madoka Magica and Elfen Lied end up trying to accomplish similar goals. It's amazing as to how much the power of emotions can override one's better judgement but then again, maybe that's why I couldn't get into it in the first place.
Let's just get this out of the way first: moe drama by and large is an extremely manipulative genre at its core that's rather poorly written in general. Why is this the case? Well, the writers know all too well that most viewers will gladly put up with all this shit so long as they get their cute girls in anguish that they can fantasise about consoling and/or fucking. Obviously, Madoka Magica has quite a way's worth of better writing put into it than Elfen Lied does but it still falls prey to the same traps that plague moe drama when it comes down to the writing.
The first biggest problem that Madoka Magica has is the fact that the pacing is horrendously rushed. I don't care what you have to say about the pacing, because quite frankly... it's shit. The 12 episodes we were given did not allow for the events taking place in the story to flow naturally and instead make this programme come off as a rather forced melodrama. Something is horrendously wrong with your programme if I cannot bring myself to feel even the slightest modicum of emotion for what transpires despite the characters making a big deal of it all.
Aside from the rushed pacing, another glaring flaw that Madoka Magica suffers from is the fact that it's heavily reliant on shock value, which is probably another big reason as to why this anime is so lauded in the first place. Shock is a powerful emotion indeed and it can definitely work to great effect to further strengthen the writing whenever necessary. The problem is that Madoka Magica goes out of its way to shock the viewer and then ultimately relies on manipulating your emotions to keep you invested and distract you from the flaws in the writing. People are definitely going to disagree with me on this one but please hear me out.
The way Madoka Magica's been marketed in the past by Aniplex is a dead giveaway that shock value is a major cornerstone of Madoka Magica as a whole. The trailers, the OP, and even the blurb on the back of the Aniplex DVD release basically paint this show out to be your typical magic girl show despite the fact that it couldn't be further from the truth. Granted, a lot of the punch has been taken out of that sort of marketing tactic given that Madoka has become so popular to the point where it's essentially common knowledge that this is a dark, angst-ridden magic girl melodrama but the point still stands.
It seems like Madoka Magica was fundamentally designed to be a smash hit. The very combination of shock and moe drama has been a proven formula for success (look at Elfen Lied if you want an example). However, Madoka Magica takes this a step further by being a magic girl show. Magic girl programmes (and battle shonens to a similar extent) suffer from this "image" that exists in the minds of most people as nothing more than childish drivel about friendship and idealism that can't grow the fuck up. Given the fact that Madoka Magica is a shocking moe drama as well as a magic girl show, the end result is basically having thousands of fans saying that Madoka isn't like other magic girl shows and is a definite must-watch.
Yes, Madoka isn't like most other magic girl programmes but then again, neither is Kill la Kill or Princess Tutu. A series doesn't automatically become a masterpiece just because it "breaks the mould" as the saying goes. If that were the case, films like "The Room" would have to be considered masterpieces of drama despite evidence to the contrary. Don't get me wrong: individuality in anime is a good thing, especially given all the repetition going on in the industry. What isn't good is relying on being different to be your main selling point. This isn't to say that Madoka doesn't have any other merits to stand on, rather the very merits it does have are flawed to high heaven.
Madoka Magica is often praised to no end as a deconstruction of magic girl anime. Yeah... I don't buy it. You mean to tell me that all it takes to be a deconstruction is psychologically torturing your characters whilst going out of your way to be as dark and edgy as possible? I thought there was more subtlety involved with the writing when it comes down to deconstructions. Say what you will about Evangelion, but one thing that Gainax has that SHAFT lacks in its entirety is tact. Don't get me wrong, subtlety isn't exactly Evangelion's strong suit either but it certainly has more than Madoka does, that's for sure.
We got to spend a good deal of time in our typical mech setting before shit got morbid and we realised that being a mecha pilot in the world of Eva isn't a walking sex fantasy. Sure, Evangelion sends us flying head-first into the plot like Madoka does, but once again: we're given time to actually connect with the characters which is something that Madoka's 12-episode runtime simply doesn't allow for. I understand that the length of a show isn't necessarily indicative of whether or not the characters are good because there definitely are 1-cour programmes that deliver quite a bit on the character front (i.e. White Album 2, OreGairu, Usagi Drop, etc). At the same time, this story contains far too much content for it to actually work with the 1-cour length.
I know that some people like to tout this 12-episode length as a strength, saying that it's free from all the unnecessary bullshit that plagues other magic girl shows and goes straight into the good stuff. While I can certainly reciprocate that praise to a certain degree (especially given that Madoka Magica is far more engaging than Sailor Moon is), people fail to understand that without the boring parts of a show, the good bits wouldn't be nearly as good and would instead become mediocre. Princess Tutu understood this concept quite well as it was able to balance out the otherwise boring bits about ballet with the deliciously macabre moments involving Drosselmeyer. Madoka has no such balance.
Another problem that the 1-cour length brings up is an over-reliance on plot twists. Now, plot twists aren't inherently bad and can definitely work to the show's advantage if it was given proper foreshadowing. Unfortunately, the short length doesn't allow for foreshadowing of any kind to really happen so they just take you by surprise (oh look, more shock value!). I don't know about you, but these plot twists don't do much of anything for me. In fact, it made me question the logic behind this show even more. I'd question why shit had to constantly get worse for the characters in every episode, but then I remember that this is moe drama and that it doesn't matter how nihilistic the world actually gets so long as we still have our cute girls writhing in anguish.
What really surprises me about Madoka is the fact that despite being a sadistic viewer who loves seeing cute things being crushed by nihilism, this show was enough to make *me* do a double take on what's being shown. Make no mistake: I couldn't find myself feeling any modicum of emotion (not even pity) for Madoka, Homura, Sayaka, Kyoko, and Mami but at the same time... there was just something rather unnerving about how their circumstances just kept getting worse by the minute. It doesn't help that the short length also brings up stuff that may very well qualify as fridge horror or unfortunate implications (I don't know which trope it is, so bear with me).
For example, the fact that magic girls have to be adolescents because apparently, they're emotionally volatile at that age range brings up so many questions that just don't get answered. For one thing, does this mean that boys that are of the same age don't go through emotional turmoil like teenage girls do? What of teenage girls who happen to suffer from psychological disorders/trauma? Why does Kyubi opt to only focus on teenage girls when there are many other people of both genders across all age ranges that are just as emotionally volatile if not moreso? There's also the concept of power with a price.
The whole "power with a price" concept is not uncommon in TV, film, manga, comics, literature, etc and there have been many twists on the same formula. Madoka tries to do this concept but it doesn't go all the way with it because of the lack of world-building. Because of that, it would seem that the price the girls have to pay is unending psychological torture which is all somehow the girls' faults by the end of it all. Basically, Madoka's flat-out telling you that you're fucked if you decide to remain a Muggle because you're going to die regardless and yet you're fucked if you become a magic girl because it means you'll go through continuous psychological torment. At the same time, it's also telling you that you'd be much better off as a Muggle because of the fact that you're going to die a lonely, merciless death where nobody's going to remember you if you choose to be a magic girl.
Now I could bring up the whole wish fallacy argument that plagues other shows that involve wishing, but then you have to remember that all the wishes that the girls made in Madoka horribly backfired because apparently, the wishes that the girls made were really selfish even though they seemed selfless at first. Even if Madoka herself was to make a wish like being able to grant her own wishes exactly as she intends for them to come out, there's no telling how horribly it can backfire because the world this show takes place in is an extremely cruel and nihilistic one. This actually brings me over to another problem I have with the show: how sexist it actually is.
I don't consider myself a feminist of any flavour, nor can I say whether or not a specific programme is female-positive media because I'm a guy. At the same time, I don't understand how people can just let all this bullshit slide. Have people forgotten that women have been pressured for millennia to be as selfless as possible and to put their own desires to the side? What's so wrong about wanting to be with the person you love? What's so wrong about not wanting to die or to actually eat something for dinner? Madoka's logic in and of itself is something that really just doesn't sit right with me one way or the other.
Am I reading too much into Madoka? I don't even know at this point, but there's no denying that there are many fundamental flaws that exist within Madoka Magica as a whole. However, there's this one aspect of Madoka that never ceases to piss me off more than anything else and that's how it ends. For a show that spends 11 episodes psychologically torturing its characters, I'd expect for the show to at least end on a downright depressing note but that's not the case at all. In fact, Madoka Magica's ending couldn't be happier. Fans like to say that the ending wasn't completely happy, but we all know that the circumstances the ending presents to us are infinitely better than what Homura et al had to put up with for the bulk of this show's run.
I don't understand how a show can simply spend 11 episodes saying that ideals will only result in permanent suffering only to do a complete 180 at the final episode and say that hope, happiness, and whatnot will always prevail. Then again, Madoka Magica IS a moe drama and we all know that moe dramas wouldn't be as successful if they don't end on *some* semblance of a happy note (I'm looking at YOU, Clannad: After Story!). One thing's for certain though, this ending is something that I take umbrage with on so many levels because it just forces a happy ending out of nowhere, which is the kind of ending that I really just can't stand.
All things considered, Madoka Magica is certainly an interesting beast to tackle indeed. I wouldn't call it average in the slightest because it managed to evoke this much of a reaction out of me and it's definitely a cut above the more typical entries of the magic girl genre. At the same time, this show gets far too much praise than it actually deserves. I'm not saying it's terrible, because it really isn't and I suppose you'll have a good time watching it if you don't read too much into the story. Regardless, I don't think Madoka Magica is a "good" show. Feedback is always welcome, so with that... I'm gonna start barricading my house so that you rabid Madoka fans don't come at me with the intentions to kill me. Peace.
Alternative Titles
Synonyms: Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magika, Magical Girl Madoka Magica
Japanese: 魔法少女まどか★マギカ
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Type:
TV
Episodes:
12
Status:
Finished Airing
Aired:
Jan 7, 2011 to Apr 22, 2011
Premiered:
Winter 2011
Broadcast:
Fridays at 01:25 (JST)
Licensors:
Aniplex of America
Studios:
Shaft
Source:
Original
Duration:
24 min. per ep.
Rating:
PG-13 - Teens 13 or older
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Your Feelings Categories Dec 22, 2014
I feel like I'm in the minority here on MAL, and that's kinda depressing. Madoka Magica by and large is one of those programmes which receives no shortage of praise that I simply can't agree with one way or the other. I wouldn't mind it so much were it not for the fact that any sort of valid criticism or complaints anyone has with this series is instantly lost in a sea of downvotes and angry rants made by rabid fans who're breathing heavily whilst typing on their keyboards rapidly. Regardless, I'll make a feeble attempt at getting my voice heard. Will it work? Probably
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Jan 21, 2015
Ah yes, Madoka Magica. Upon request of another I am reviewing this show and believe when I say that I did not truly wish to do this because of two reasons. Firstly, I see no reason in reviewing shows that will receive exceptionally low scores as it only wastes my time and yours, plus make a lot of people angry at the same time. Secondly, the director of this series is someone I do not like either based on many of his other works in addition to this one, so it is not fun to talk about him. His name is Gen Urobutchi, sometimes called
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Apr 22, 2011
People may praise this anime to the skies but I think otherwise. I first watched this show like a typical magic girl action anime with very low expectations (due too the nanoha similarities at the beginning). I wont try to spoil anything for you but the show starts to make drastic turns and got me excited for a couple of episodes but the excitement dies later on. I didn’t like how utterly by the book it was at its presentation and story. It starts of like a typical magic girl anime. Episodes latter its not, but oh wait it resembles a typical tragic anime from
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Apr 23, 2011
The animation looked nice to me, even with the people not in the foreground being all wierd, and the characters weren't very bad at all. But really, everything else was just bad. All the drama barely made me feel anything and it felt totally out of place especially towards the end when QB was talking about killing cattle and livestock. That whole scene was used to make all the obsessive fanboys/girls feel like the show just got DEEPER. I've heard that whole speech since I was in elementary school and every time I hear it, it's just a nuisance.
I liked Madoka in the beginning, it ... Sep 1, 2012
Madoka Magica is an overhyped, overrated, pretentious mess. The pacing is horrid, characters are stale, the story is all over the place and the conclusion is plainly bad.
It's a "dark" magical girl series, which fails to get any emotional response because of how bad the pacing and the characters are. All this is held together by very pretentious "artsy" artwork and music. The only thing decent in the whole series is Kyubey, everything else is passable at best, horrible at worst. This series is neither dark nor is it artsy, It's just a pretentious mess which tries to be dark and fails, the "dark" plot twists ... Dec 19, 2017
This show is absolute trash. People try to say it is good just because of the poorly written plot twist at the climax of the story. The shows narrative is complete garbage, switching from one characters insecurities to the despair of homura due to madokas ignorance; with almost no transition. In the end nothing changes. This show tries so hard to be something that its not. Which only makes it worse overall. The ending provides no resolution to the story at all, instead just making it worse. This show ruined the magical girl genre.
The art is terrible, the scenes where they fight witches are ... Feb 5, 2021
This show is down right appalling
Story 4/10 The story had potential but failed due to pure edge I couldn’t enjoy it. The plot overall fell short of what it could have been. Art 2/10 The line art half the time isn’t even fully done and is just plain lazy. Sound 5/10 Some interesting instruments but the songs themselves are just okay. Character 1/10 It’s not possible to get attached to any of the characters as they all die before they even get interesting. ... Aug 23, 2011
I am only halfway through this show and already I am haveing trobble finding anything that special about it.
The story had potential, but ended up feeling like it was just on the serface and never really delved deeply into. Even at the halfway poinnt I finde myself not careing what happens. That's bad. The art and sound are, in my opinion, the best things about this show. I find the art style interesting, if a bit strange at times. The sound is clear and...well...what else can I say about that? The characters are dull. I finde I don't know much about them and that makes it ... Sep 5, 2021
"Madoka Magica" is considered one of the best anime not only of the mahou shoujo genre but also one of the best in history. But is that true?
Story (3/10): The plot of madoka magica is considered by many a subversion of the genre for being a much more mature anime than others of the genre, which I think is false, the reason is simple, Madoka Magica explores her themes in a not very subtle and immature way, it's funny how other mahou shoujos for all ages like "Ojamajo Doremi" or "Sailor Moon", manage to be more subtle and have more depth than Madoka. Maybe some ... Dec 3, 2013
I was very much disappointed by this anime show.
Earlier I had read that it would do to the 'magical girl genre' what elfen lied had done to the 'guy finds cute girl genre'… Halfway through the show I most definably found that it did not. The story did not engage as I had hoped it would. I was not able to really relate to any of the characters which makes it hard to really feel for their struggles. Also the grown ups in this show are incredibly stupid it seems. The biggest buzzkill for me was that the show uses a very specific style of animation to depict ... Sep 27, 2020
Madoka Magica seems to be one of those love-it-or-hate-it type anime, and as someone who doesn't like it, I hope I can still explain both sides of the debate. But first, I'll describe its basic story structure, characters, and themes, and take into account the context of the show's production.
Story and Themes The overarching plot follows Madoka as she learns more about the dark nature of magical girls through her encounters with them, all the while trying to decide if she should become one herself. Though this should come as no surprise considering Gen Urobuchi's style and Madoka Magica itself being already famous as a ... Jan 17, 2016
Recently I have rewatched Madoka Magica and decided to rewrite the entire review in a more comedic tone, since as comedy gold the first review did not do it justice.
Hi kids, ever want to have your wish granted and have functional immortality as well for no additional cost besides the fact you need to fight occasionally for all of your immortal life? Of course you do, cause the deal is sweet, its such a sweet deal that I would totally gave Kyubey a blowjob as thanks. As for the side effects, you only turn into a big fucking monster when you die from basically not eating ... May 29, 2021
What comes as a surprise to me when I hear someone talking about Madoka Magica is the positivity that's surrounding the series. The day before I started MM, I checked its page on MAL, and oh boy, was everyone calling it a masterpiece!
So I watched the first episode the next day and I didn't find it really interesting (at all). And here the curse of MM began: I kept watching the series assuming that there's a turning point and everything is gonna get exciting so the time I had spent on the first few episodes was going to be worth it. A few hours ago, I ... Aug 7, 2018
No one has revealed anything about what the heck the witches are and what their entire point is and I’m halfway through.
Madoka is an unlikable, wimpy, annoying Shinji Ikari wannabe Tsundere girl Sakura is just annoying Homura has the personality of a doorknob No one in the anime really works out Kuubay is bad when its blindingly obvious he's a manipulative little thing that eats evil power and will obviously become evil later if i could bother to watch this drivel. Most enemies look stupid, esp familiars. There is far too much dull as hell talking featuring chars I haven't been made to care about due to the total ... Oct 13, 2016
As you probably know the show starts off as a generic magical girl show, and the takes a dark turn by involving death and suffering. It feels as if it was entirely banking on this surprising the audience how ever, and if you know it's coming, it really just comes across as nothing but a cheap gimmick. Honestly, if you removed the magical girl aspect this show would appear as entirely generic. Just because Madoka Magica kills off a character or two, and puts them through some trauma, doesn't turn it into a deconstruction, especially when said characters are really just the archetypes from the
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Mar 20, 2014
Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica is a poorly developed "deep" Magical Girls anime. Madoka Magica is also pretentious, overrated, and boring. This review is going to be unstructured and i'm just going to say whatever is off my mind.
Madoka Magica is revolves around Madoka and magical girls. These magical girls are granted a single wish in exchange to be sent fighting against witches and stuff. Madoka herself is a horrible and disinteresting protagonist. She's an indecisive eighth grade schoolgirl which I apparently heard it took her 12 episodes for her to figure out if she actually wants to be a magical girl or whatever. Eh, I ... Jul 17, 2021
All the praises this show gets is really for superficial reasons. If this anime is carefully analyzed, all the problems it has can be detected easily. Here are the reasons why I consider Madoka Magica a very bad anime:
1) The characters: One of the weakest points of the anime. Madoka, being the protagonist, is an alien and a spectator of her own story. She literally didn't do nothing during all the episodes until the final one that gets a convenient power up. Despite all the problems presented in the show, she maintains her altruistic thinking because that is how the script demands it. She has ... Mar 31, 2015
This rating is actually not really what I would've given it. This is a reason to always be skeptical.
Mahou shoujo Madoka magica isn't the typical mahou shoujo anime. Yeah I already knew that shit was supposed to take off after the third episode and I was still pleasantly surprised. Story - (7) The plot is actually really basic. Girl tries to protect another girl from a bad guy. Nothing too special here to be honest. How it's revealed, is where things get clever. The show first starts of by placing Akemi as the antagonist and kyubey as a protagonist. Eventually their roles change. This also occurs ... May 28, 2021
“Madoka Magica” is an anime made for adults, a psychological drama and, to make matters worse, it deconstructs the magical girls’ genre, some say. It sounds like if it were a masterpiece, right? Well, no. You need to be careful.
The magical girls’ genre is part of a series of conventions that make this theme somewhat relaxed that serves as a fantasy for girls. However, if we want to take it seriously, the key would be to start from the reality of magical girls and see its logical consequences. That is to say: what inconveniences, dramas, reflections, situations can occur if there were really fourteen-year-olds ... Mar 2, 2018
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First impressions, so today we are going to be reviewing the critical acclaimed magical girl deconstruction(TM) known as madoka magica which are clearly not an overrated and blotted piece of crap that not even a good art/ animation or soundtrack could save. Story,4/10 So our story begins with main character Madoka Kaname and side character Sayaka Miki are regular middle school girls with regular mundane lives, but all that changes when they encounter Kyuubey, magical creature, and Homura Akemi, the new transfer student. Kyuubey offers them a proposition for the girls to get into his van so he can grant ... |