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| Dat action and animation. Finally he's here next episode should be super-awesome. I want to see Mugino vs Touma really bad. |
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ssjokgJun 17, 2013 1:43 PM
| Mugino vs Misaka. YUS. "I'm giving you a spanking." LOL, Frenda's in trouble. Finally, about time Touma appeared. Can't wait for the next episode! For some reason, I was under the impression of this being only 12-13 episodes...glad I was wrong. =D |
Goldzero said: TheGreat1s said: im not sue if kamijou can beat mugino( just a hunch feeling).Dat action and animation. Finally he's here next episode should be super-awesome. I want to see Mugino vs Touma really bad. Easily.The fight will either turn out like it did with Index only difference being that Index's Dragon Breath is stronger or like the fight with Izzard,Touma losing his hand etc etc. |
Goldzero said: Spoiler that.And that's why I said easily.ssjokg said: i wouldn't say it be an easyGoldzero said: TheGreat1s said: im not sue if kamijou can beat mugino( just a hunch feeling).Dat action and animation. Finally he's here next episode should be super-awesome. I want to see Mugino vs Touma really bad. Easily.The fight will either turn out like it did with Index only difference being that Index's Dragon Breath is stronger or like the fight with Izzard,Touma losing his hand etc etc. |
Goldzero said: Touma has enough experience to fight her.His skills were decent in the beginning and he has been fighting non stop for months.Unlike Tsuchimikado she isnt a master of sorts or a Saint like Kanzaki.ssjokg said: sorry about that. but their one thing bothering me, isn't mugino very good in hand to hand where touma just have decent brawling skills?Goldzero said: Spoiler that.And that's why I said easily.ssjokg said: i wouldn't say it be an easyGoldzero said: TheGreat1s said: im not sue if kamijou can beat mugino( just a hunch feeling).Dat action and animation. Finally he's here next episode should be super-awesome. I want to see Mugino vs Touma really bad. Easily.The fight will either turn out like it did with Index only difference being that Index's Dragon Breath is stronger or like the fight with Izzard,Touma losing his hand etc etc. You havent fixed your previous post. |
grandy_UiD said: Ah fuck, it's Touma. Go back to your own series dude, I don't need you in my yuri spinoff! news flash this is his series specifically this is one of his story arcs |
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ssjokg said: Goldzero said: Spoiler that.And that's why I said easily.ssjokg said: i wouldn't say it be an easyGoldzero said: TheGreat1s said: im not sue if kamijou can beat mugino( just a hunch feeling).Dat action and animation. Finally he's here next episode should be super-awesome. I want to see Mugino vs Touma really bad. Easily.The fight will either turn out like it did with Index only difference being that Index's Dragon Breath is stronger or like the fight with Izzard,Touma losing his hand etc etc. |
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Slicer22 said: ssjokg said: Goldzero said: Spoiler that.And that's why I said easily.ssjokg said: i wouldn't say it be an easyGoldzero said: TheGreat1s said: im not sue if kamijou can beat mugino( just a hunch feeling).Dat action and animation. Finally he's here next episode should be super-awesome. I want to see Mugino vs Touma really bad. Easily.The fight will either turn out like it did with Index only difference being that Index's Dragon Breath is stronger or like the fight with Izzard,Touma losing his hand etc etc. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
ssjokg said: @CreationBreaker I believe that Accelerator already had I don't think that's how Slicer22 said: |
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| And then this is after the Index (Pen's mode) arc also. Phew. I'm glad that there aren't any fillers in between. Maybe I'll finally get to see my Liberal Arts City Arc. Sigh. I doubt it though. Lots of people would get a bad aftertaste if it ended like that. |
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13man18 said: And then this is after the Index (Pen's mode) arc also. Phew. I'm glad that there aren't any fillers in between. Maybe I'll finally get to see my Liberal Arts City Arc. Sigh. I doubt it though. Lots of people would get a bad aftertaste if it ended like that. It's pretty much been confirmed that we will see Liberal Arts City after the Sisters Arc at some point during this season. We've seen far too many hints for it to not happen. |
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CreationBreaker said: ssjokg said: @CreationBreaker I believe that Accelerator already had I don't think that's how Slicer22 said: |
| I think it would be so much easier if Misaka asked Kuroko to help her instead of trying to do everything alone. Mugino it's super powerful, I like Frenda as well. |
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bittersweetlove said: I think it would be so much easier if Misaka asked Kuroko to help her instead of trying to do everything alone. Mugino it's super powerful, I like Frenda as well. i thought there would be a fight between 2 lv5-4 couples misaka - kuroko vs mugino - frenda cuz of the OP theme xD,but it didnt happen |
Goldzero said: kunzarcx said: mikoto isn't the type of person who would involve her friends in dangerous situation and especially kuroko who is her best friend.bittersweetlove said: I think it would be so much easier if Misaka asked Kuroko to help her instead of trying to do everything alone. Mugino it's super powerful, I like Frenda as well. i thought there would be a fight between 2 lv5-4 couples misaka - kuroko vs mugino - frenda cuz of the OP theme xD,but it didnt happen Don't forget the entire point of this set of episodes is that Mikoto is trying to bear the burden of her "sin" of allowing the births and deaths of the Sisters alone. If she actually brought Kuroko along or got Kuroko's assistance, it would defeat the purpose of this entire portion of the Sisters Arc. For anyone else who has watched or read the Remnants Arc, we all know that Kuroko never had any knowledge of the Sisters or the Level 6 Shift to begin with. Having her assist Mikoto would lead to a gaping inconsistency with the main canon. One of the reasons why Kamachi is such a good writer is because he generally does avoid blatant inconsistencies like that. @kunzarcx Also, Frenda is a Level Zero, NOT a level 4. |
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Goldzero said: Consostency with plot? Would make a good scene if he just jumped outof nowhere and shielded for Mikoto, glad to see JC STAFF is being faithfulCreationBreaker said: to be fairly honest with you i was rooting that touma would show up agiasnt mugino(yes i read the manga as well) and i noticed many fans were actually rooting for touma to show up too. many fans were sad about the fact that he wasn't involved in this episode much until the end but it did brought him allot of cheers though.Goldzero said: kunzarcx said: mikoto isn't the type of person who would involve her friends in dangerous situation and especially kuroko who is her best friend.bittersweetlove said: I think it would be so much easier if Misaka asked Kuroko to help her instead of trying to do everything alone. Mugino it's super powerful, I like Frenda as well. i thought there would be a fight between 2 lv5-4 couples misaka - kuroko vs mugino - frenda cuz of the OP theme xD,but it didnt happen Don't forget the entire point of this set of episodes is that Mikoto is trying to bear the burden of her "sin" of allowing the births and deaths of the Sisters alone. If she actually brought Kuroko along or got Kuroko's assistance, it would defeat the purpose of this entire portion of the Sisters Arc. For anyone else who has watched or read the Remnants Arc, we all know that Kuroko never had any knowledge of the Sisters or the Level 6 Shift to begin with. Having her assist Mikoto would lead to a gaping inconsistency with the main canon. One of the reasons why Kamachi is such a good writer is because he generally does avoid blatant inconsistencies like that. @kunzarcx Also, Frenda is a Level Zero, NOT a level 4. |
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| About time Touma appeared, hilarity ensured when he's around. The rest of the episode was pretty good as well, but the fight felt off for some reason. |
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skreyola said: TOUMA!!! Yay! And I remember this scene from Index. Looking forward to seeing the other side of it. MD vs RG? Come on, guys. The MD is kind of shiny, but that girl has no sense of tactics. She's so arrogant she only thinks a couple of moves ahead. In the tactics field, Birbiri is way ahead of her. Not only did she get a clean hit on Mugino with the doll from an unexpected angle, but she got the haughty princess to follow her into ground of her own choosing. Select the battlefield, and you have a great advantage. Misaka can outthink her any day, and I don't think it's an accident that the rankings are the way they are. Regardless of what the arena is, Misaka's better at using its attributes to her advantage. Counter-point-ALL of Mikoto's tactics relied on using Frenda's left-over traps. Are you saying that Mikoto would have been able to win had Frenda never shown up? (NOTE: I am also taking into account the fact that Mikoto lost most of her stamina as a result of fighting Frenda. This means that if she hadn't fought Frenda, she would have been in top-form.) Are you saying that without Frenda and her traps, Mikoto would have won? If so, please explain as nobody on this thread has yet to make a valid enough argument about this. [In other words, read all of the previous arguments I made since I am the only one who is arguing that Mugino would win and counter each and every one of my arguments if you can.] |
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| Flying exploding dolls and danmaku. Might not be a reference to what I was thinking, but I still like the sound of it. Lol, so much for all the arrogant gloating, Meltdowner. She was temporarily knocked out by a relatively slow-moving "kinetic projectile", a physical non-esper attack that all humans would be vulnerable to (i.e. getting hit on the head by a hard object). While she was able to get up and resume her attack, her downtime also led her to fail her original mission to defend the laboratory. Mikoto didn't even have to use her signature attack (though to be fair she's both too tired as she said, and probably aware that it won't be very effective against her level 5 opponent). I liked how she tried to extend a lifeline even at the last moment to her opponent that was set on trying to kill her. Chaotic Good, definitely. Here comes Touma, guess it's time to put the finishing blow on the Level 6 Shift project with him around (for Index, as I doubt we'd see that fight again here). |
dniv said: Anyone notice that when she was reading the news on her cellphone, it said that Mizuho machines/ organization was associated with the research facility/hospital that stole her DNA map and that also went bankrupt... They just so happened to be the people that owned the hospital with the frog faced doctor in Railgun Season 1 where the level upper users went. I sense a subtle conspiracy. It's also compounded since the Mizuho group is the second largest financial group in Japan with a net worth of over 2 trillion bucks. Conspiracies are not all too surprising in the Raildex-verse. I have to look into that but that sounds like an interesting one. However, the frog-faced doctor will never be out of a job unless he decides to retire at some point since at this point, dniv said: @CreationBreaker: Mugino would roast Mikoto if both were in top form. Mugino lost because Mikoto ran away ( first thing), she lost because... she lost her cool (she got too excited), Frenda messed up, and for other reasons. Notice that after all of the fireworks displays Mugino put on she wasn't even tired. She used a lot more impressive attacks over the course of 2 episodes than Mikoto did during the 3 episodes. Even if Mikoto was tired from past things, as part of ITEM, Mugino does assassin stuff ALL OF THE TIME AND WOULD BE WAY MORE TIRED... ACTUALLY THOUGH. No one seems to consider this. SHE THEN ALSO SUDDENLY CAME IN AND STARTED to try to beat MIKOTO. There is a good possibility that Mugino had done just as much work as Mikoto in the last few days... considering this, they probably were on equal footing... it's just that Mikoto had Frenda's bombs as an advantage. Mugino having silicon burn is just her own intelligence/power/luck of being in the darkness. Finally! Somebody who agrees with me and is using logic in his statements rather than Mikoto-fanboyism. Thank you. |
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dniv said: No.It is the opposite.Remember that the manga focused on the MISAKA that Mikoto "rejected",the same one that later,ignored a certain black cat later,on her way for the fight with Accelerator.Unless she is supposed to stop there but the manga didnt show that.CreationBreaker said: elior1 said: it was a great episode wiith the fight against meltdowner andcan somone tell me who is the new misaka clone at the end of the preview? That one is Misaka ??? No... 10032? Re-read LN 3... skreyola said: Typical Mikoto fan.TOUMA!!! Yay! And I remember this scene from Index. Looking forward to seeing the other side of it. MD vs RG? Come on, guys. The MD is kind of shiny, but that girl has no sense of tactics. She's so arrogant she only thinks a couple of moves ahead. In the tactics field, Birbiri is way ahead of her. Not only did she get a clean hit on Mugino with the doll from an unexpected angle, but she got the haughty princess to follow her into ground of her own choosing. Select the battlefield, and you have a great advantage. Misaka can outthink her any day, and I don't think it's an accident that the rankings are the way they are. Regardless of what the arena is, Misaka's better at using its attributes to her advantage. SayakaMagica said: We will.Here comes Touma, guess it's time to put the finishing blow on the Level 6 Shift project with him around (for Index, as I doubt we'd see that fight again here). |
| 'Meltdowner' is pretty scary, that old hag. So at this point Mikoto already thinks the experiments are over huh? She couldn't be more wrong. Which means we're gonna see Touma next episode! :) |
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Bilibillimisaka said: CreationBreaker said: wakka9ca said: A fight does not necessarily have to be fair. If you cannot use your terrain as an advantage and purely rely on your power, you are weak and must train yourself more professionally next time. Misaka totally outwitted Mugino in this round. A fight is not always only about raw power. It's about wit as well. Also the level of control and stability of Mugino's power is, at this point in the series, not ideal, compared to the level of control Accelerator shows. Here is where I will reiterate. We are discussing whether Mikoto or Mugino would win in a fair fight. You are right that manipulation of the terrain and wit are absolutely necessary in combat. However, by fair fight, I mean straight up Mugino and Mikoto at full power. That means no Frenda. That means none of Frenda's rigged traps. That also means Mikoto would be at full power. I just wonder how Mugino hit Mikoto in anyway without killing herself at the same time. Not to mention the high possiblity of missing the target as she often does... But Mikoto do have ways to defeat her by using her ability wisely, which was already shown in the TV (even when she was in very bad condition, no good sleep, no eating....) Remember, one of the important reference of the ranking is decided by the application of the power, because it indeed is a very important element to decide the strength of one's fighting ability. And this has been full demonstrated in the TV show The ranking is already there ....except for very special #7, there is no meaning to challenge it without strong supporting examples. Only imagination in the mind won't get anywhere... .This is like how people used to imagine all kinds of theory that Acclerator would defeat Touma by this or that way... The theory one think makes sense is always too subjective to convince who believes in the opposite. So just listen to the author, you can never be smarter than the author when you are talking about his stuff. What you just said is: Your points are moot because Mikoto beat Mugino and that's that. You have yet to counter any of my points so far or even find a hole in my argument. I can name methods for Mugino to counter any tactic Mikoto has shown in the entire franchise (Index LNs plus Railgun). And another thing: that first line of yours makes no sense. [without killing herself at the same time]. Expand please. One more time: Just because the author made one character win over another means nothing. Not to mention that in both of Touma's fights against Accelerator, Accelerator wasn't the perfect example of sanity or clear-headedness. |
Ashen_MikoJun 27, 2013 8:14 AM
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CreationBreaker said: Bilibillimisaka said: CreationBreaker said: wakka9ca said: A fight does not necessarily have to be fair. If you cannot use your terrain as an advantage and purely rely on your power, you are weak and must train yourself more professionally next time. Misaka totally outwitted Mugino in this round. A fight is not always only about raw power. It's about wit as well. Also the level of control and stability of Mugino's power is, at this point in the series, not ideal, compared to the level of control Accelerator shows. Here is where I will reiterate. We are discussing whether Mikoto or Mugino would win in a fair fight. You are right that manipulation of the terrain and wit are absolutely necessary in combat. However, by fair fight, I mean straight up Mugino and Mikoto at full power. That means no Frenda. That means none of Frenda's rigged traps. That also means Mikoto would be at full power. I just wonder how Mugino hit Mikoto in anyway without killing herself at the same time. Not to mention the high possiblity of missing the target as she often does... But Mikoto do have ways to defeat her by using her ability wisely, which was already shown in the TV (even when she was in very bad condition, no good sleep, no eating....) Remember, one of the important reference of the ranking is decided by the application of the power, because it indeed is a very important element to decide the strength of one's fighting ability. And this has been full demonstrated in the TV show The ranking is already there ....except for very special #7, there is no meaning to challenge it without strong supporting examples. Only imagination in the mind won't get anywhere... .This is like how people used to imagine all kinds of theory that Acclerator would defeat Touma by this or that way... The theory one think makes sense is always too subjective to convince who believes in the opposite. So just listen to the author, you can never be smarter than the author when you are talking about his stuff. What you just said is: Your points are moot because Mikoto beat Mugino and that's that. You have yet to counter any of my points so far or even find a hole in my argument. I can name methods for Mugino to counter any tactic Mikoto has shown in the entire franchise (Index LNs plus Railgun). And another thing: that first line of yours makes no sense. [without killing herself at the same time]. Expand please. One more time: Just because the author made one character win over another means nothing. Not to mention that in both of Touma's fights against Accelerator, Accelerator wasn't the perfect example of sanity or clear-headedness. Not exactly.Accelerator lost the first time because of Also Bilibillimisaka said: So just listen to the author, you can never be smarter than the author when you are talking about his stuff. Except that the author never stated who is the strongest.Even you said that the ranks are based on the application of the power.Hell in NT |
ssjokg said: CreationBreaker said: One more time: Just because the author made one character win over another means nothing. Not to mention that in both of Touma's fights against Accelerator, Accelerator wasn't the perfect example of sanity or clear-headedness. Not exactly.Accelerator lost the first time because of Remember what happened when |
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CreationBreaker said: Yes but it wasnt what decided the fight.If he had succeeded with that attack then bye bye Japan(except one building)ssjokg said: CreationBreaker said: One more time: Just because the author made one character win over another means nothing. Not to mention that in both of Touma's fights against Accelerator, Accelerator wasn't the perfect example of sanity or clear-headedness. Not exactly.Accelerator lost the first time because of Remember what happened when |
| can someone tell me who was the first misaka and the second misaka what number? |
xin09 said: can someone tell me who was the first misaka and the second misaka what number? you mean the one in the previous eps and the one in the preview? #09982 and #10031 |
| Awhyeee, Touma is back. :3 |
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| Misaka should really work on improving her battle strategies (as well as covering her weaknesses) and adding the "metal floating bomb dolls" as a permanent weapon. But cool match. Frenda fail LOL. I find Meltdowner's mirror multiplier trick really cool. TOUMA. Yay. |
| Great adaption so far. 6 episodes of the sisters arc left. More episodes of manga plot is always better than anime-only filler. This is miles ahead better than the first season was. I'm also looking forward to the arc from the SS novel after the filler. Might be an arc concluder like in S1. |
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Forgetfulness said: Mugino first appeared in the Index novels.She was always crazy.Whoever writes Railgun: Let's make the enemy a woman...and then make her go CRAZY! ^ all the time Mugino's power was somewhat interesting, though I'm wondering if they're going to actually give us an explanation on her powers though or is it just "some green beams that can melt stuff"? And that moment when Mugino read the project report was hilarious :D I'm guessing the part where Touma fights is soon? I hope he just does his part and then gets out cause I hate him. Honestly, the fight in the Index series was pretty pathetic cause Accelerator |
Forgetfulness said: Whoever writes Railgun: Let's make the enemy a woman...and then make her go CRAZY! ^ all the time Mugino's power was somewhat interesting, though I'm wondering if they're going to actually give us an explanation on her powers though or is it just "some green beams that can melt stuff"? And that moment when Mugino read the project report was hilarious :D First, Mugino's first appearance in the general canon was in the Index novels and let's just say that fans who have read the novels know that she has the tendency to go absolutely insane. Let me just say that this was just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. Second, her powers are explained in the Index novels. From Railgun....you have to infer. Just look at the title of the episode-Particle Destabilizer- and combine it with the fact that her powers are at base similar to Mikoto's. That should give you a general idea of what her power is. Forgetfulness said: I'm guessing the part where Touma fights is soon? I hope he just does his part and then gets out cause I hate him. Honestly, the fight in the Index series was pretty pathetic cause There goes the Touma hate. Ahhh...I missed that. |
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