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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- good chapter it was nice to see Askeladd again, so Thorfinn gets some more character development and vows to part from violence, wonder how long that will last sucks that we wont get another chapter for 2 more months |
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| "I will never hurt anyone ever again" Man, that's a pretty bold statement. I really hope things work out, although as said in the manga, it definitely will be a struggle, and he's gonna have to put up one hell of a fight. Thorfinn was always good at fighting and killing, but it seems he will be needing a different type of strength now. |
| i wonder how low will he last in this petty state -_- |
| Great chapter. Not loving this new idea of his, but I'm sure that'll last about two chapters. |
| the art in the nightmare was great really berserk like but his resolve was a little bit lame never use violent has he forgotten in which time he lives..... |
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| Best chapter in months. |
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| Haha. First thing I read the chapter I knew poeple are going to be disappointed with his resolve. I wonder, have those people already forgot about Thorfinn's father? |
| Yea, obviously the answer isn't refusing to fight. It's fighting a cause worth fighting for. Taking down a certain corrupt king, a king Thorfinn himself helped to become a king seems like a good cause to me. |
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| Come on Thorfinn... lets kick some ass |
enkfayehJan 26, 2011 10:16 PM
arff98 said: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CharacterDevelopmentHated thorfin new resolve. He is a warrior in the middle age, what else is he good for? Is Thorfin an intelligent character that will rationalize a pacific solution to solve the many problems and injustices around him ? Is he skilled enough to neutralize his opponents without killing them( like Rurouni Kenshin? I don`t think so, he has been a soldier a lethal weapon , always letting others do the thinking for him. |
arff98 said: Nope, he looks more like Mother Teresa to me. Will probably get a gender change later on and Vinland Saga will transform into a border-H 4-koma gag manga.Is Thorfin now ghandi? |
| I'll always love Thorfinn, Emo or not. Whether he's killing people... well, that's just a minor detail. |
| “There's power in the night. There's terror in the darkness. Despite all our accumulated history, learning, and experience, we remember. We remember times when we were too small to reach the light switch on the wall, and when darkness itself was enough to make us cry out in fear....” ~ The Dresden Files ★ ★ ★ |
| Goddamn, I miss Askeladd. ;_; Defenestrator said: I'll always love Thorfinn, Emo or not. Whether he's killing people... well, that's just a minor detail. Agreed. I don't have any qualms about his new ideals at all. But still, I won't be surprised if when all hell breaks loose, Berserker Thorfinn will come out again. |
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| Why was Askeladd there? Thorfinn didn't kill him. |
JJohnny said: It was a dream, in dreams anything can happen. Anything.Why was Askeladd there? Thorfinn didn't kill him. And Askeladd was the cause of Thorfinn's killings in the first place. |
| i love the chapter i wonder how this will continue O.o also i like the new determination of Thorfinn :D and see Askeladd once again was great and nostalgic T_T |
| LOL guys, guys, GUYS! Do yourselves a favor and read chapter 12-14 of the manga again And if you people honestly tell me you didnt forsee that Thorfinn might follow Thors' footstep[s (funny how many of you actually mentioned the guys dad...pretty forgettable character wasn't he? [/sarcasm] ) stop reading the manga. Seriously. arff98 said: But the he says " I will not hurt anybody again" Talk down his enemies? Is Thorfin now ghandi? Ghandi, Guts, kenshin, Manji, Balsa? How about Thors? well you do realize its a fan translation, right? he obviously meant..well..like I said, read chapters 12-14. PS: The dream sequence was really awesome |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| And i was hoping he will return to his old self >.< Lets face it no one reads historical manga to see what the economic changes that where happening in that time we read it because the large scale fights. Peace, love and unity all the devils you got to beat if you want to survive in the world of history ( joking ) :) Well anyway I hope it gets better ( i know i will ) xD |
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vvvpqsw said: Bl4ckEnvy said: Lets face it no one reads historical manga to see what the economic changes that where happening in that time I would love to read a manga about that. ...for a change. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
JJohnny said: He didn't kill Bjorn either. I think the dream sequence was showing those who didn't find the true meaning of being a warrior.Why was Askeladd there? Thorfinn didn't kill him. eyerok said: This. It seems like all the wrong people are reading this manga...I hope Yukimura has a set plan for the story and sticks to it 'til the end instead of being influenced by fan responses (though by what he has done so far, I think it's safe to say he does what he wants).LOL guys, guys, GUYS! Do yourselves a favor and read chapter 12-14 of the manga again And if you people honestly tell me you didnt forsee that Thorfinn might follow Thors' footstep[s (funny how many of you actually mentioned the guys dad...pretty forgettable character wasn't he? [/sarcasm] ) stop reading the manga. Seriously. |
| how many days till next chapter? |
| Well, there was the month when he was on a break, so two months from the last chapter... |
| “There's power in the night. There's terror in the darkness. Despite all our accumulated history, learning, and experience, we remember. We remember times when we were too small to reach the light switch on the wall, and when darkness itself was enough to make us cry out in fear....” ~ The Dresden Files ★ ★ ★ |
| I really regret picking this manga so early. Its the kind of thing that should be marathoned for max enjoyment :S |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Sigh... first when the manga was on the verge of becoming a really epic tale with him siding with Canute to conquer England they split... then he becomes some empty headed farmer slave... then this... I hope this trend stops before the carebears and ponies start to appear :( |
| Needs to fix this sometime but I'm lazy - since 11/05/2009 |
| It's a sad inevitability that the common reader would want to see the main character slaughtering people all throughout the story, regardless of the plot, themes and character development. I mean this is why manga like Bleach are so successful, they satiate the reader's bloodlust, the need to see endless battles and special techniques and catchphrases. Vinland's not that kind of manga, just roll with it peeps. Planetes wasn't your casual sci-fi manga either. Sure it was fun seeing violence in a historial setting, but there was always context for it. Thorfinn was never a typical battle manga hero, he was presented as a vague character treading a thin line between tragic victim and menacing aggressor. So basically some of you guys have no right to act surprised or disappointed at the turn of events lately. The direction the story is going in was on the cards long ago. Admittedly I thought Thorfinn would actually get his revenge before realising how pointless it was, so kudos to the author for robbing the character of even that. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
| gotta say im a bit dissapointed with this new direction , and i miss Askeladd :( |
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| so Thorfinn decided to take the "Rurouni Kenshin" route. |
| hat. vvvpqsw said: Bl4ckEnvy said: Lets face it no one reads historical manga to see what the economic changes that where happening in that time I would love to read a manga about that. [2] |
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| This was on the cards all along, but the way he got there was no way what I expected. Good development from the mangaka. On a side note, living amongst Vikings in the Middle Ages without hurting anyone will be quite a bit of a challenge. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
edungeon said: hat. vvvpqsw said: Bl4ckEnvy said: Lets face it no one reads historical manga to see what the economic changes that where happening in that time I would love to read a manga about that. [2] [3] I'm loving the direction that VS is going, and except that I plan to get back to reading Historie, these kinds of manga/anime seem really interesting to read. |
| I wonder how this story will going on.. |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| Pacifism... SERIOUSLY?! NO!!! |
MaceTheDonSep 19, 2020 8:33 AM
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| Thorfinn is one the most developed characers I've ever seen. It's been a great journey* can only hope it gets even better. |
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| This was such a fantastic and beautiful chapter. So raw and deep. Really powerfull conclusion |
| Is this the end of the Farming Arc? because I enjoyed it so much as we really saw how Askeladd's death affected his very life. |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
| Thorfinn finally became the kind of person Thors would be proud of! I love that he became a pacifist! |
| Loved this chapter. Great to see Thorfinn finally becoming a true warrior. |
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vvvpqsw said: REad the novel series The Baroque Cycle by Neal StephensonBl4ckEnvy said: Lets face it no one reads historical manga to see what the economic changes that where happening in that time I would love to read a manga about that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baroque_Cycle |
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| That was beautiful, though I doubt he won't have to hurt people again. In this regard, Thors was wrong too. Because he wasn't willing to defend himself and his friends to full extend, he paid for it with his life in the end. Thorfinn will probably realize that he will need the blades to protect himself and others |
| Got strong Berserk vibes from this chapter. And wow, great character development for Thorfinn. Imo this arc is just as good of not better than the previous ones. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| you can hurt people for self-defense Thorfinn lol anyway lets see how far this pacifism of his will go Askeladd giving some nice coaching too there |
| Thorfinn's going through the same phase that ashoka once did. I personally don't want thorfinn to become a non violent dude even if I advocate for it irl. |
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