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| OMG that plot twist at the end! its Game of Thrones all over again XD |
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| The intense climax aside, that little moment with Satsuki and Soroi was quite touching. |
| Powerful eyebrows. |
BakaAniki said: sentience said: I'm sorry to say but there was an awful animation error with the boy (Mako's brother) at 17:37. He was still in the dress clothing even though he claimed to have sold it ago, in the other frames he was wearing rags. This is a big blunder they made there with the episode, otherwise it was rather entertaining. Body paint. That explained it...ohmygosh. |
| was obvious, but nevertheless really awesome!! great episode.. mako is great :D |
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sentience said: BakaAniki said: sentience said: I'm sorry to say but there was an awful animation error with the boy (Mako's brother) at 17:37. He was still in the dress clothing even though he claimed to have sold it ago, in the other frames he was wearing rags. This is a big blunder they made there with the episode, otherwise it was rather entertaining. Body paint. That explained it...ohmygosh. You can clearly see his nipples and junk hanging and when everyone's getting eaten by the fibers his body paint was almost washed out (is that the word?). |
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| A lot of people guessed this huge plot-twist but it was really marvelous to see it in action. BakaAniki said: You can clearly see his nipples and junk hanging and when everyone's getting eaten by the fibers his body paint was almost washed out (is that the word?). I realised that, thought he was wearing the rags that he usually wore at first before you pointed it out though. Thanks. |
| http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/06/1391719022-naniiii.png I wasn't expecting that. I am speechless. (Though I can say that Ragyo's theme is really something and that she's rainbow Maleficent) |
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| Hooooly fuck. That betrayal in the end. Oh man I can't wait for next week |
| HOLY CRAP i expected satsuki to go against ragyo but not like this. jaw dropped during the last minute and ofc mako's dad doing the kamina pose. MARK MY WORDS |
AgentChico said: Hooooly fuck. That betrayal in the end. Oh man I can't wait for next week Truly, what made it better was that the betrayal was already foreshadowed early on when the generals drank from the teacups and smashed them. |
sentience said: AgentChico said: Hooooly fuck. That betrayal in the end. Oh man I can't wait for next week Truly, what made it better was that the betrayal was already foreshadowed early on when the generals drank from the teacups and smashed them. Yeah, at that moment I knew Satsuki and company were planning to do something big. |
| Powerful eyebrows. |
| YOOO, the ending though. Pretty good episode, to make up for the awfulness of last week's cliffhanger (Which was immediately pointless after the 1st few minutes of the episode). Does this mean Satsuki was on nudist beach's side all along? Looking forward to next weeks episode, I have good hopes for the series now. |
| What a plot twist that was at the end. Good episode. |
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BRSxIgnition said: Just realized this due to some opinions from a thread on this episode elsewhere... I give you, the Ryuko Matoi's family tree. Fixed. Asian context-wise, the child takes on the father's surname by default |
migohunter said: sentience said: AgentChico said: Hooooly fuck. That betrayal in the end. Oh man I can't wait for next week Truly, what made it better was that the betrayal was already foreshadowed early on when the generals drank from the teacups and smashed them. Yeah, at that moment I knew Satsuki and company were planning to do something big. I knew Satsuki and her elites were planning something different but I didn't expect them to take this far. |
sentience said: BRSxIgnition said: Just realized this due to some opinions from a thread on this episode elsewhere... I give you, the Ryuko Matoi's family tree. Fixed. Asian context-wise, the child takes on the father's surname by default That... actually makes a lot of sense. Props to BRS yet again for that! |
| Powerful eyebrows. |
| I expected betrayal BUT NOT THAT BRUTAL. Holy shit, Satsuki FTW. |
"Komugi, are you there?" |
| Admit it! Even you already saw that coming episodes ago.. You still Went: HOLY SHIT! |
| What? Wtf? I absolutely didn't expect Satsuki to stab Ragyou in the back like that... What the f.ck again! But i don't think that would be enough to finish Ragyou. |
| Dat foreshadowing. I'm even more convenient now that Kinui Kinagase was Ryuuko's mom. |
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ssjathena said: Admit it! Even you already saw that coming episodes ago.. You still Went: HOLY SHIT! Yeah this. I mean it was so sudden and brutal. LOL. Anyway, I expect this battle will deliver |
| HOLY F*CKING MOTHER OF TRIGGER! Ok, ok, calm down man, calm down...WOW Alright, I think almost all of us knew that the rebellion was coming at some point, but not by a bloody chest back-stab with a freaking katana and a epic crucifixion..WOW 10/10 to this episode...But now I´m scared about the hype on next episode, and we all know what happens with KlK when we have hype... Well, let´s just cross our fingers and hope Trigger doesn´t want to delete someone |
| Clap, clap, clap. Well done Trigger, the second half of this show is delivering big time. I expected that at some point Satsuki would not go along with her mother's plan. She values self sufficiency and independence too much for that. I did expect her however, to stab her in the back like that. Are Ryuuko and Satsuki now going to fight on the same side? Or will we get a 3 side standoff? |
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| Even though I expected it completely, it's still well executed nonetheless. Here's where everything starts. |
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| i expected that Satsuki would turn on/betray her mother but that was good oh yis good ep |
AnimageNeby said: Eudaimonia said: ▶ In retrospect I should have seen Satsuki's act of matricide coming. Her and Ragyo's ideologies are way too different for her to remain the docile and obedient girl she has been depicted as whenever she was shown in the presence of her mother. Satsuki has always valued virtes such as self-empowerment and self-realization, there is no way she would stand by watching how humanity loses its independence to extraterrestrial beings. Of course there's also the fact that unlike the bullies at Gamagoori's old high-school she's not content with leeching off the influence of her parents (where's her father btw, he's been suspiciously absent the whole time without any explanation) but rather usurp her mother's power completely even if she has to pry it out of her cold, dead hands. Though there's little doubt that the back-stabbing Ragyo received won't be enough to take her down with her scars on her back branding her as well-versed in combat. ▶ If it hasn't been clear before now it's pretty blatant just how self-centred Ragyo is, stating to be omniscient in addition to being the sole person to determine what can be defined as beautiful following up on her monopolization on the admittedly loose concept of sin. All her inter-actions with other people are coated with condescendence, her banter with the four generals nothing but superficial fluff, her spiel centering on abstract subjects such as primal sin basically being as shallow as the layers of clothing are that she covers her body with. Though, perhaps that's just what it sounds like to her daughter who must have entered the stage of puberty by now and being in her rebellious phase acting like the know-it-all teenager calling bullshit on what the adults say and sprouting larger-than-life phrases herself with her own version on how the world works, most preferably revolving around herself, (I certainly wouldn't trust a person of her age to know humanity's true essence like she has been announcing from the rooftops since the start of the show) and putting up a strong facade to hide her weaknesses. In contrast Ryuuko has found her onw way to defy adults' expectations by living as a delinquent, there's really no need to murder your mother to prove your self-worth ;) In a way both Satsuki and Ryuuko are chasing after slightly juvenile goals, the former with world domination in mind and the latter by getting revenge on her deceased father, a common trope in action-flicks, the whole elaborate setting could be interpreted as an externalization of their pubertal struggles, it is by the creators of FLCL after all and the Utena-esque elements (watch that show if you haven't already) alone should warrant digging up some subtle (or not so subtle) symbolism. ▶ Ragyo's harlequinesque appearance during the festival was a neat throwback to one of her more prominent catch-phrases "La vie est drôle", though I'm sure only the likes of Harime with her twisted sense of humour would deem the bloodshed taking place in the end amusing. The comparison of human pigs getting lead to the shambles by choice to get slaughered was a brilliantly morbid way to pick up Satsuki's figure of speech and hearing it out of the her mother's mouth who would be the first to be visibly slaughtered no less. ▶ It was nice to see two prior flashbacks getting expanded on by putting them into context especially by adding an emotional component to it in relation to Satsuki, painting her in a more human light and thus increasing the shock value of the last scene Right. That said, aesthetically, I didn't like the dress of Ragyo much, whether the harlequin-esque appearance was symbolic or not. I also thought it to be made a bit TOO obvious that she was the villain, this time. As of yet, though one could sense some nastiness, condescension and will to dominating, if not downright power-hungry, she still gave of an air of 'grandeur'. She also remained somewhat ambiguous, even with the bathscene, where, aside from being incest-like (which everyone commenting on it picked up), was also a way to help her (which almost no-one seemed to remember). Aka, meaning: it wasn't depicted as only something to 'villainize'. Meaning: she still wasn't portrayed as some sort of one-dimensional 'total evil' up to this point, even if it was clear she was the biggest antagonist. They forgo completely to that in this episode, for as well the ambiguity (making her far more pronounced 'evil' in her speech and actions) as well as diminishing her demeanour of 'grandeur', by wearing the a clowns' custom. I can't say I really liked that. On the other hand, the rebellion was rather very brutal and straightforward, much more so than I anticipated, and I liked this surprise. There is, clearly now, no love lost between daughter and mother. This again diminishes the multi-layered approach a bit - I would have imagined some hesitance or lingering bond-feelings, but at the other hand, overthrowing the kings/queens in every era has always been brutal. I can't say I like this episode the best - the former one was way better, I thought - but I guess the finale is going to start... As for the dress it made me laugh as the first thing I associated with that attire was the one of a clown so it totally worked for me. I can see where you're coming from saying how she lost any shreds of moral ambiguity with this episode though I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Not every antagonist needs to justify their evil-doings with a greater good, being ruthless and exhibiting a twisted logic still makes her a compelling character to watch, a dangerous figure that has been looming over the rest of the cast from the shadows and now finally springing into action to that the rest needs to up their game. Concerning the mother-daughter relationship I don't think Satsuki would have ever showed hesitation in this kind of situation especially not in front of her subordinates. From the flashbacks it has been made clear that she uses everything and everyone to accomplish her goals, she even discarded close allies at first when they showed weakness, see Sanageyama, though granted she's grown soft during the course of the show. Ragyo was an obstacle in her way, once she had gained complete control of the life fibers not even Satsuki could have stopped her probably. And well, Ragyo's actions haven't been particulary motherly in the past, the way she treated her was more of an object of amusement, with emphasis on object (remember how she stroked her in her uniform *shudder*) and Satsuki's a master of putting on a poker face, so I didn't expect any lingering feelings in the first place. That said unless we get a clear view on her mind like we did in her scene with her butler we won't know for sure what's going on in her mind, does she feel satisfaction by putting down her mother, is her superiority complex a result of seeing her mother's literal brilliance and radiance every day? As such their relationship doesn't loose any of it complexity for me but I can understand why others might see it differently. Personally I loved this and last week's episode, a vast improvement over the somewhat dry Tri-City school raid trip arc despite the amount of action in it. |
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| Speechless... |
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| I expected Satsuki to at one point go against Ragyo's ideals, but I never expected her to do that to her Wow Speechless |
KvshiFeb 6, 2014 2:11 PM
pakoko said: Eudaimonia said: In retrospect I should have seen Satsuki's act of matricide coming. Her and Ragyo's ideologies are way too different for her to remain the docile and obedient girl she has been depicted as whenever she was shown in the presence of her mother. Satsuki has always valued virtues such as self-empowerment and self-realization, there is no way she would stand by watching how humanity loses its independence to extraterrestrial beings. Agreed 100%. I don't think this "twist" was supposed to be all that surprising since the show has been building up to this point from the beginning. Satsuki would have killed Ryuko a long time ago if she was in on Ragyou's plan all along. I think what threw me off was her conversation with Soroi and the signs of vulnerability she has shown in the past few episodes, a clever directional move to make the last scene so much more impactful since its ruthlessness clashed so hard with how she has been characterized lately. I feel like Ryuuko is somewhat like what she is to her mother: (seemingly) harmless with some potential to cause trouble but mostly source of curious amusement and well, we all know that turned out with this episode. |
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| Heh, they managed to air this festival at the same time Olympics starts, call it coincidence. And Satsuki overthrowing her mother... well, that was sure unexpected. Though, this is almost an asspull as her character went about 180 degrees change by this. You could say she planned it all along to lure her here but I don't agree. They put it there just to shock, it has no other meaning. But man, why I am even talking about character logic in trainwreck like this? |
| I kinda saw Satsuki's betrayal coming. Damn, Ragyo looked so creepy, she reminds me of Kefka. Anyway, judging by the preview she'll somehow manage to survive. |
| Please understand. |
| Was a lot.. bloodier than I expected. |
Marzan said: Are Ryuuko and Satsuki now going to fight on the same side? Or will we get a 3 side standoff? I see 5 different groups here though. Doubt those two are exactly on the same side...especially with the OP song having them walk on two different platforms.. I sense Satsuki to be the deuteragonist who is neither against nor for the ambitions of the protagonist (Ryuho) here. Felt Ryuho/Nudist Beach were essential to her plan because it would hide her true intentions from her own mother. True antagonist to be either Ragyo or Nui. Ryuko (with Mako and Mankanshoku family) - To use Life Fibres designed towards her will to stop the ambitions of the Kiryuins and to protect the people important to her (friends) and find out more about her father. Right now they stand closer to Nudist Beach's ideals, though not completely off the hook due to use of Life Fibres/Kamui Senketsu. ((Rebel seeking for the ultimate truth)) Nudist Beach - To be free from Life Fibres. To oppose world domination of Life Fibres and destroy them if necessary. To do so without using Life Fibres, using technology that's based on the Scissor Blade to take enemies down. ((Freedom Rebel Group)) Satsuki - To control Life Fibres and bend them to the will of the user - this was rather obvious when Satsuki first opposed her mother by choosing to wear Kamui Junketsu. To oppose world domination by Ragyo by letting only people who can handle life fibres control them. ((Meritocracy much? Oligarchy-dictatorship as well and Totalitarianism)) Ragyo - To submit to the will of Life Fibres and be all mighty. Be the ultimate dictator and rule over the world by the will of life fibres / aliens. ((Despotism-Dictatorship, Monarchy)) Nui - Plays on her own whims and fancy, temporarily alliance with Ragyo but she actually stands alone for her own entertainment. ((Irresponsible/Selfish Freedom?)) |
| Holy shit, that was incredible. |
| Well i could see something like that comming (Satsuki being a good guy) but hell... I sure didn't forsaw that she will backstab her own mother like that. This is such a crazy anime ^^ I have to say that it's going on pretty good. Can't wait for the rest ^^ In before Satsuki and Ryouko team up and destroy everything in their path <3 |
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| Ragyou's outfit is... clownish.. Satsuki betrayal was awesome. Always knew there was going to be a betrayal at that pace what with its name being what it is, but I didn't see Ragyou getting betrayed coming until mid-episode. |
| That was a great episode! I knew Ragyo would get impaled, since the moment she appeared at the stadium I was carefully examining her words to try and guess when she would be cut off by Satsuki's sword. The identity of Satsuki's father suddently intrigues me much more.. |
AloxamaxFeb 6, 2014 2:50 PM
"Rejoice! We are humans— we are the most talented people! Precisely because we were born without any ability— we can achieve anything— this is the will of the weakest race!" – Sora, ‘No game No life Vol.01’ |
| Wait a minute. WTF. Was Satsuki good this whole time? You just know shit is about to go down next episode. |
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| i bet Ragyo killed her husband and father of Satsuki that is why Satsuki is in betrayal mode |
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