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Mar 8, 2009 10:31 PM

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sigh.

do they all have to die on tomoya's arms? ;____;
poor guy.
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Mar 8, 2009 10:59 PM

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Well, there are those orbs of happiness or whatever and they could cause a miracle to happen to save Ushio. Also, there is the place where Akio took Nagisa when she was little and horribly sick. Maybe Tomoya will take her there? And there's a hospital there now so, that doubles the chance of Ushio being saved. Of course, maybe I'm just really hoping for a happy ending for Tomoya. >_>
Mar 8, 2009 11:23 PM

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What did Tomoya do to be punished that hard.....hopetheres a happy ending
Mar 8, 2009 11:48 PM

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Such a sad episode.
Here's to a happy ending.
Is ep 22 really the last?


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I never imagined that they would go for an ending like this. T_____T
I hope that maybe Ushio will be saved somehow. Before this episode I was kinda hoping for Nagisa's return but I guess that won't happen. Oh Clannad.

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Is ep 22 really the last?
Sort of. Story-wise, yes. But there will be an episode 23 which will show the events one year before the current events.

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Mar 9, 2009 1:46 AM

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One of the worst directed episodes of Clannad, i didn't like this episode at all, it was supposed to be all tear-jerking and saddening etc... but instead i found it utterly ridiculous. Now i hope Tomoya dies in the last episode and i will remember this season with disappointment...
Mar 9, 2009 1:54 AM
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so.. story wise.. next episode really IS the last huh? i heard there was a follow up game to clannad which featured the years after all these happened..

and apparently...


but i guess that won't happen...

..considering what i recall from two or three episodes ago when...


hrmm.. well when it's done, it's done...
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Mar 9, 2009 3:08 AM

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I really loved this episode. And I don't think you noticed but at the end Tomoya collapsed and possibly died as well .. basing what I'm saying on the way he acted the whole episode. He was not healthy, not healthy at all.
I love Clannad, it's great that they manage to move me so much.

Mar 9, 2009 3:30 AM
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Another tearjerker episode. I hate the fact that this show is ending soon. I'll definitely miss it.
Mar 9, 2009 3:31 AM

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Butterflies. I see Air ending repeating itself.
Mar 9, 2009 3:37 AM

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If that really is the end of the story like cyruz says then i applaud them doing what other shows cannot/will not do and that is tactfully kill off main characters. As sad as it was, it was different and unexpected (to some degree).

kikoushi said:
One of the worst directed episodes of Clannad, i didn't like this episode at all, it was supposed to be all tear-jerking and saddening etc... but instead i found it utterly ridiculous. Now i hope Tomoya dies in the last episode and i will remember this season with disappointment...


Aside from being a bit rushed, i really didn't see anything too wrong with the episode. i sense such disdain and yet i can seem to figure out why.
Mar 9, 2009 3:57 AM

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how sad. poor Tomoya.. I hope this ends well....
Mar 9, 2009 5:30 AM
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The general feel of the show ever since they left school has been depressing (bring back Sunohara.) I really feel for Tomoya though pretty much all the people he loves die, the creators must hate him. Is Key incapable of a happy ending, at least one person has to suffer.
Yay, for the next episode in hopes of it finally explaining the whole empty world with the girl.
Mar 9, 2009 5:52 AM

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KEY certainly loves UNKNOWN ILLNESSES and sick moe characters, don't they? They did it with Shiori and Makoto in Kanon, Misuzu in AIR, and now Nagisa and Ushio. I mean, certainly, they make excellent moe characters, but the sick girl plot seems slightly overdone by now.

We definitely need more Mysterious Girl and Junk Doll scenes, since well, the Mysterious Girl is amazing and the animation quality seems to shoot up for those. KET has always managed a touch of surrealism, but I think those scenes nail it rather well.

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Mar 9, 2009 9:08 AM
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Gosh.. And i thought that i have bad luck ;/ now I'm scared of watching next ep but still have a hope that it end not so bad :|
Mar 9, 2009 1:07 PM

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Anyone here that has played the game and still remembers it? How accurate is the show in relation to the game?
*Dusts off Clannad and reinstalls* D'oh, game's on my broken computer... <--- almost as sad as this series ;)


Mar 9, 2009 1:07 PM

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Gosh this evil thing is killing me T.T I hate it. In a good way though.

And I HATE Torch. In the BAD way ò.ó
Mar 9, 2009 3:42 PM

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Wow, next week is the ending already? D:

and once again the ED buttrapes the mood
Mar 9, 2009 4:13 PM

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Such a sad moment ... I feel sad for Tomoya who has to go through all this hardship... I told myself not to cry but it was too much. Last episode next week. I don't know what anime to follow after Clannad. It feels so empty when the series will be completed! :'( <3
Mar 9, 2009 8:23 PM

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bit too predictable
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Mar 10, 2009 1:59 AM

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It was predictable and nowhere near as sad when Nagisa died. That was a tearjerker, that made you go my god what have they done. This one didn't move me really like Naigsa's death which was unexpected and really emotional. This one was stupid and if you ask me unneeded. The fact she's very ill to begin with and he drags her outside in the winter just because she wants to go on a trip is asinine for a parent to do to begin with.

But I do feel remorse for Tomoya. Life keeps crushing one bit of joy and happiness of his for no rhyme or reason. I am hoping for a happy ending cause this one has been a ball breaker the entire way through something good has to happen right?
Mar 10, 2009 6:31 AM

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Now that I am able to post, my goodness. I have that Air feeling all over again, I refuse to believe Ushio is really gone. This is very upsetting and depressing, ugh!
Mar 10, 2009 8:10 AM

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Another tear jerking episode for me, but I'm still hoping for a good ending.
Mar 10, 2009 11:56 AM

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It was predictable and nowhere near as sad when Nagisa died. That was a tearjerker, that made you go my god what have they done. This one didn't move me really like Naigsa's death which was unexpected and really emotional. This one was stupid and if you ask me unneeded. The fact she's very ill to begin with and he drags her outside in the winter just because she wants to go on a trip is asinine for a parent to do to begin with.

But I do feel remorse for Tomoya. Life keeps crushing one bit of joy and happiness of his for no rhyme or reason. I am hoping for a happy ending cause this one has been a ball breaker the entire way through something good has to happen right?

Yeah.

I just hope Key doesn't fuck up and revive her next episode. I will seriously pull my hair out.
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martin03345 said:
It was predictable and nowhere near as sad when Nagisa died. That was a tearjerker, that made you go my god what have they done. This one didn't move me really like Naigsa's death which was unexpected and really emotional. This one was stupid and if you ask me unneeded. The fact she's very ill to begin with and he drags her outside in the winter just because she wants to go on a trip is asinine for a parent to do to begin with.

But I do feel remorse for Tomoya. Life keeps crushing one bit of joy and happiness of his for no rhyme or reason. I am hoping for a happy ending cause this one has been a ball breaker the entire way through something good has to happen right?
In the end, both Tomoya and Ushio knew that she didn't have any time left. Taking her on the trip was similar (both metaphorically and in execution) to the last scene with Misuzu in AIR TV. She wanted this one last thing, the only thing in the world she could think about, those happy times she spent with daddy. She wanted to relive them one last time, and Tomoya knew that it was better for her to get that chance than to just waste away in bed regretting that she never got to take another trip with him.
Mar 10, 2009 1:06 PM

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Sorry, double post ><
Mar 10, 2009 5:23 PM

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Tomoya will kill himself, nice boat.
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Mar 10, 2009 6:21 PM

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What? The next episode is the final episode? Oh man...
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Mar 10, 2009 6:24 PM

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What? The next episode is the final episode? Oh man...
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Mar 10, 2009 6:53 PM

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MRLX69 said:
Tomoya will kill himself, nice boat.


That will seriously spoil my expectations of the series. The progression will be a total waste.

Mar 10, 2009 6:55 PM

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MRLX69 said:
Tomoya will kill himself, nice boat.


That will seriously spoil my expectations of the series. The progression will be a total waste.

Mar 10, 2009 6:58 PM

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MRLX69 said:
Tomoya will kill himself, nice boat.


That will seriously spoil my expectations of the series. The progression will be a total waste.

Mar 10, 2009 8:24 PM

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MRLX69 said:
Tomoya will kill himself, nice boat.


That will seriously spoil my expectations of the series. The progression will be a total waste.

Mar 10, 2009 8:34 PM

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We get it, quit spamming. >.>

I'm considering skipping school just to watch this episode when it hits the web.

I don't think it will have a bad ending, but I won't believe anything until I watch the episode.

Thursday (or Friday) seem so far away....
Will I fall in love someday? I wonder?


Mar 10, 2009 8:43 PM

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Roketsu said:
martin03345 said:
It was predictable and nowhere near as sad when Nagisa died. That was a tearjerker, that made you go my god what have they done. This one didn't move me really like Naigsa's death which was unexpected and really emotional. This one was stupid and if you ask me unneeded. The fact she's very ill to begin with and he drags her outside in the winter just because she wants to go on a trip is asinine for a parent to do to begin with.

But I do feel remorse for Tomoya. Life keeps crushing one bit of joy and happiness of his for no rhyme or reason. I am hoping for a happy ending cause this one has been a ball breaker the entire way through something good has to happen right?
In the end, both Tomoya and Ushio knew that she didn't have any time left. Taking her on the trip was similar (both metaphorically and in execution) to the last scene with Misuzu in AIR TV. She wanted this one last thing, the only thing in the world she could think about, those happy times she spent with daddy. She wanted to relive them one last time, and Tomoya knew that it was better for her to get that chance than to just waste away in bed regretting that she never got to take another trip with him.


Metaphorical or not, even though that's obvious to see, it's still blatantly asinine. She is your child, you love her and want her to be better. Even though the chance of surviving might seem slim you can't lose hope and go out and do soemthing asinine like that. That's not good drama, that's not making one have to feel remorse for someone at least to me. That was a major screw up on his part that basically automatically damned her. On the other hand Nagisa didn't have a choice, she had no fault in it and was extremely touching to see her pain through child birth and trying to hold on when the outside circumstances absolutely were stacked up against her. That's good drama, that's a tearjerker. You'd have to have ice water in your veins and be a clinical sociopath not to be touched by that where with Ushio, it's Tomoya's fault for going out of his way to screw things up.
Mar 10, 2009 9:07 PM

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CkretAznMan said:
What? The next episode is the final episode? Oh man...

um, isn't episode 23 the last one?
Mar 10, 2009 9:20 PM

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CkretAznMan said:
What? The next episode is the final episode? Oh man...

um, isn't episode 23 the last one?
Mar 10, 2009 9:58 PM

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;O;

That's all I got to say. Ushio. Yr kawaiiness will always live to be strong >:O

Tomoyo barely got any screen time >_< Sucks.
Mar 10, 2009 10:51 PM

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Sylpheed said:
MRLX69 said:
Tomoya will kill himself, nice boat.


That will seriously spoil my expectations of the series. The progression will be a total waste.

Would be better than ushio magically surviving.

Which i can see happening.
Mar 10, 2009 11:05 PM

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M_A said:
Sylpheed said:
MRLX69 said:
Tomoya will kill himself, nice boat.


That will seriously spoil my expectations of the series. The progression will be a total waste.

Would be better than ushio magically surviving.

Which i can see happening.


I wouldn't be surprised if a good ending occured, personally.
Will I fall in love someday? I wonder?


Mar 11, 2009 5:22 AM

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Considering how depressing the series has got, I'd prefer it to have a pick-me-up.

Roffey no like being sad at end of series :( nooooooo
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Mar 11, 2009 10:25 AM
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I would actually be happy if Ushio came back. I don't see how this is going to have a happy ending otherwise and it would suck if a great show like this had a sad ending
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JJW009 said:
I can't remember the last episode that didn't make me cry.

One to go, and as much as I love this series I'm not sure I could take any more!


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Mar 11, 2009 10:48 AM

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JJW009 said:
I can't remember the last episode that didn't make me cry.

One to go, and as much as I love this series I'm not sure I could take any more!


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JJW009 said:
I can't remember the last episode that didn't make me cry.

One to go, and as much as I love this series I'm not sure I could take any more!


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Mar 11, 2009 11:48 AM
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What's with people posting 3 times in a row? XD
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I suspect the MySQL errors are still being prevailent and stopping people from posting correctly, meaning that they post multiple times
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Mar 11, 2009 2:27 PM

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Hated this episode.

Someone please tell me what is gained by Ushio dying? We did this already. Nagisa becomes Tomoya's everything, Nagisa dies, Tomoya questions whether they ever should have met, deep depression, reunited with Ushio, Tomoya has a reason to live again. See, we don't need to do this again with Ushio. Nothing's going to be gained from it.

Oh and the death scene, or "the poor man's "Goal!" What a travesty. I lost track of how much cliched death talk bubbled forth out of Ushio's mouth. "Are we on the train?" Good god, I never thought I'd see the day when Key got desperate to make its audience cry. That was just pathetic. Also, Tomoya's a fucking idiot for thinking it was okay to bring Ushio out there, regardless of it being "his only daughter's wish".

So with this, I can conclude Key hates girls. All of them. All girls must suffer crippling anguish at their hands, no matter how cute or endearing they may be, they're all destined to an unspeakable tragedy. Thank you, Clannad After. I'm completely disillusioned now to your idea of moe. Thank you for smashing everything the last 10 episodes worked to build with little regard to the message of the story so far.

This is the perfect example of a shit end. There's no way 22 can make up for all of this.
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This is the perfect example of a shit end. There's no way 22 can make up for all of this.
Honestly, to each and every person who says something like this, quit being so pessimistic. You haven't even seen the damned episode yet, don't just assume they can't make a good ending. There's a whole 25 minutes of time they could do any number of wondrous things with, wait until Saturday to be so judgmental.
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Or you can let them be pessimistic and let them view it in their own way. That episode did set things up for a not so great ending. Maybe it'll be good maybe it won't but to each their own when they critique something like that.
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