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Sep 15, 2013 5:18 AM
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I finally watched Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods today but i couldn't get an answer to a question yet.
Toriyama said that the movie is a story within the original Dragon Ball story...
Now,Pilaf,Mai and Shu are just kids in the movie,that means GT were ignored by Toriyama? Because as you may know,in GT Pilaf and his gang are old people.
Sep 15, 2013 5:31 AM
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I'm not saying its not canon, but I do think future Dragon Ball works will ignore its existence
Sep 15, 2013 5:53 AM
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GT isn't canon, Battle of the Gods retcons it out.
Sep 15, 2013 5:55 AM
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GT isn't canon, Battle of the Gods retcons it out.

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Sep 15, 2013 5:58 AM
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Not just GT but Z too have some inconsistencies on it...
Like,Garlic Jr Arc,the prequel film would take place before Raditz threat but can't fit as well because Gohan was introduced during Saiyan Arc.
THen,you have Gohan's friendly dragon Icarus,he had a cameo on the show,but the movie Three of Might doesn't fit as well. In GT you can see a cameo of Cooler getting out of Hell and Goku using Dragon fist through GT,a technique 1st introduced in a "supposedly" non-canon film,Wrath of the Dragon. I apologize to the Z fans but thats why i prefer Kai.

So,for me,Dragon Ball's like that:

Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Kai

and Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods between the post-Buu threat and the Tenkaichi Budokai with Uub.
Dragon Ball Z History of Trunks as well since its based in a extra story from the manga.
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Sep 15, 2013 5:38 PM
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Wolf_Xll said:
I finally watched Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods today but i couldn't get an answer to a question yet.
Toriyama said that the movie is a story within the original Dragon Ball story...
Now,Pilaf,Mai and Shu are just kids in the movie,that means GT were ignored by Toriyama? Because as you may know,in GT Pilaf and his gang are old people.
Yes he is ignoring GT because he did not create it thus it is non canon. Crappy GT is a big obstacle stopping DBZ from continuing, the best thing would be for AT to write it out of the main timeline by saying it happened in an alternate future timeline like Future Trunk's timeline.
Sep 15, 2013 5:40 PM
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I hope so, GT was a huge shit that ruined DB.
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Sep 15, 2013 5:42 PM
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I do think they wont recognize GT, as it's done by a different director.
Which is fine by me to be honest, even though the series was terrible, I still quite enjoyed it.
Sep 15, 2013 5:53 PM
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the new movie not only ignores DBGT but the original ending of DBZ as well
Sep 15, 2013 5:54 PM

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If the story continued with GT not existing I would be completely happy with it and watch. I've never watched GT and I don't have any intention.
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silversaint said:
the new movie not only ignores DBGT but the original ending of DBZ as well


I haven't seen battle of the gods yet, but 90% of us know Toriyama wanted DBZ to end with Gohan beating Cell. Then he wanted to end it with Gohan beating Buu. Stupid Goku fanboys writing in complaining about the manga back in the early 90's!
Sep 15, 2013 6:02 PM

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silversaint said:
the new movie not only ignores DBGT but the original ending of DBZ as well
No it doesn't it takes place before the ending.
Sep 15, 2013 6:12 PM

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GT is not cannon because AT didn't create it. Also, it is bad on almost everything until the final moments, which actually was awesome.

GT stands for "Gay times" - apparently, or "Goku times" since he is the only character that can actually do something in the whole show.

Sep 15, 2013 6:32 PM

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Only good thing that came out of GT was SSJ4, but mainly for the fighting games
Sep 15, 2013 6:35 PM

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Only good thing that came out of GT was SSJ4, but mainly for the fighting games
Gogeta SSJ4 pretty much OP in Budokai Tenkaichi 3.
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NeoAnkara said:
RockerXD said:
Only good thing that came out of GT was SSJ4, but mainly for the fighting games
Gogeta SSJ4 pretty much OP in Budokai Tenkaichi 3.


Actually, Gogeta SSJ and Vegito SSJ is way stronger if you know how to play with them. Gogeta SSJ4 just have a very good melee and nothing else (aside of a very slow recharge, the slowest in the game).

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im not surprise since Toriyama is not involved with GT i heard
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012yArthur0 said:
NeoAnkara said:
RockerXD said:
Only good thing that came out of GT was SSJ4, but mainly for the fighting games
Gogeta SSJ4 pretty much OP in Budokai Tenkaichi 3.


Actually, Gogeta SSJ and Vegito SSJ is way stronger if you know how to play with them. Gogeta SSJ4 just have a very good melee and nothing else (aside of a very slow recharge, the slowest in the game).
But if you fusion it after nuking with Goku or Vegeta SSJ4 it will instantly go with max ki and the ultimate blast can be used as an end game card.
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012yArthur0 said:
GT stands for "Gay times" - apparently, or "Goku times" since he is the only character that can actually do something in the whole show.


It actually stands for Great Travesty.
Sep 15, 2013 7:00 PM

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Now that i know it got subbed, it won't take long for the eng dub to come out. It's been a while since i've seen Dragonball.
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Now that i know it got subbed, it won't take long for the eng dub to come out. It's been a while since i've seen Dragonball.


I heard that it won't get dubbed for at least a year...

Anyways, I'm glad that GT is being "replaced". I hated GT.
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In Akira Toriyama's world; GT never happened.
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He's ignoring several plot points but i wouldn't exclude the possibility to use the ssj4 mode on own way for the encounters. The last speech of Kami kinda gave a hint.
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"Goku times" since he is the only character that can actually do something in the whole show.


>implying Goku isn't the only character that can actually do something in all of DBZ either



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silversaint said:
the new movie not only ignores DBGT but the original ending of DBZ as well


I haven't seen battle of the gods yet, but 90% of us know Toriyama wanted DBZ to end with Gohan beating Cell. Then he wanted to end it with Gohan beating Buu. Stupid Goku fanboys writing in complaining about the manga back in the early 90's!



Ending on Gohan vs. Cell would've made the story so much more wholesome thematically imo. As cool as I thought the Buu Saga was it was all shock value, the writing was weaker imo.
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He should because GT is probably the worst anime ever.

Feb 14, 2015 6:12 PM
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as he should
GT was pure garbage
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Yes. GT is terrible. I ignore it too.
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I am confused. If his ignoring GT then how come Pilaf and his gang became kids?
That happened in the start of GT didn't it? The becoming kids along with Goku.
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Monad said:
I am confused. If his ignoring GT then how come Pilaf and his gang became kids?
That happened in the start of GT didn't it? The becoming kids along with Goku.


Actually no. Pilaf and his gang wished that Goku would become a child accidentally. They were old in GT

Wolf_Xll said:
Not just GT but Z too have some inconsistencies on it...
Like,Garlic Jr Arc,the prequel film would take place before Raditz threat but can't fit as well because Gohan was introduced during Saiyan Arc.
THen,you have Gohan's friendly dragon Icarus,he had a cameo on the show,but the movie Three of Might doesn't fit as well. In GT you can see a cameo of Cooler getting out of Hell and Goku using Dragon fist through GT,a technique 1st introduced in a "supposedly" non-canon film,Wrath of the Dragon. I apologize to the Z fans but thats why i prefer Kai.

So,for me,Dragon Ball's like that:

Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Kai

and Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods between the post-Buu threat and the Tenkaichi Budokai with Uub.
Dragon Ball Z History of Trunks as well since its based in a extra story from the manga.


And also, for you. You do realize that the Dragon Ball Z movies ARE NOT canon right ? The examples you gave include the movies. The movies aren't canon. The only 2 movies that ARE canon is Battle Of Gods and Resurrection of Frieza.
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Monad said:
I am confused. If his ignoring GT then how come Pilaf and his gang became kids?
That happened in the start of GT didn't it? The becoming kids along with Goku.


Actually no. Pilaf and his gang wished that Goku would become a child accidentally. They were old in GT



Yes they were old but when they screw up that wish and they made Goku a kid they also made themselves kids as far as i remember.
So them being kids can only really come from that since they never made themselves kids in Dragon Ball Z.
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Yes they were old but when they screw up that wish and they made Goku a kid they also made themselves kids as far as i remember.
So them being kids can only really come from that since they never made themselves kids in Dragon Ball Z.
That was in Battle of Gods not GT.
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Monad said:
KurugayaTennouji said:


Actually no. Pilaf and his gang wished that Goku would become a child accidentally. They were old in GT



Yes they were old but when they screw up that wish and they made Goku a kid they also made themselves kids as far as i remember.
So them being kids can only really come from that since they never made themselves kids in Dragon Ball Z.


I think you should watch the first 5 minutes of the first episode of GT. Pilaf summoned the dragon, then Goku came and tried stopping him, then Pilaf got angry and said how he wished Goku was a kid again so he could squash him (unintentionally), so thats why Goku's a child.
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i was see all episodes but i never find where Toriyama Was Said About That Please If You Will Find about This then Let Me

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Dragon Balll GT = great turd
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If I may jump in here: No, Toriyama isn't ignoring GT. Canonically, this takes place a few months after Buu was defeated and became Mr. Good Buu. It's just a canon put-in in-between Z and GT, though that's how I see it.
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