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What is the worth of Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki?
It is made of excellence and deserves to be on our Enlightenment list.
47.1%
8
It is too unremarkable to be on either of our lists.
35.3%
6
It is vastly overrated and deserves to be on our Relations list.
5.9%
1
I have not watched this anime, but it can't possibly be better than my favorite animu!
11.8%
2
17 votes
May 26, 2013 8:29 PM
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Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki is now up for vote. Decide if it feels the maternal warmth of Enlightenment of if it should be shot down in our Relations.

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Ducat_RevelJun 2, 2013 5:45 PM
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May 26, 2013 8:30 PM
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I think I'll abstain from voting on this one. I feel that I have too much subjective bias for it. It might be clouding my vision. I might take this back near the end of the stretch, but as of now, I just don't think I can vote objectively.
May 26, 2013 9:41 PM
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Wolf Children is a breath of fresh air. This movie happens to mix fantasy with reality quite well and there's not a worry of parallel magic to ruin it (pretty sure you know what I'm referring to here) as everything is brought up front early on, and it's rather simple; a human mixed with wolf being able to interchangeably switch back and form between forms. With this simple concept, it is transformed from a wife and husband love tale to quickly focusing on our two children; Yuki and Ame. Being a movie, I was quite surprised it could squeeze in a touching family raising story in which the drama didn't feel forced. The drama stemmed simply from Yuki and Ame growing up, and children are bound to bring drama regardless, the only difference is that they happen to be half wolf which spices things up a bit.

Throughout the story, a beautifully presented contrast naturally forms between the two siblings as they start out differently, but also happen to grow apart differently again which felt fairly realistic as each grew as well as broke relationship bonds with their mother.

Speaking of the mother, known as Hana, Hana was a worthy person to admire as a deeply dedicated mother trying to provide the best for her children, no matter how tough the circumstances were; it almost made me feel as if, "Damn, I thought I had it bad? Look at her!"
Corny as may have sounded, I think the writing into this piece was done rather well. Not to mention, it's the best thing to watch as a family (and I did show it to my family with approval and tears) that rivals or is up to par with Ghibli films.

A firm option 1 from me.

Edit reason: what the fuck was I doing not separating into paragraphs?
ShoryuMay 27, 2013 3:06 PM

Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is.
May 26, 2013 10:31 PM
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Option 1
It's so easy to forget how unrealistic the premise actually is. It's presented very well, and whatever happens beyond the concept of werewolves is so firmly rooted in reality that it's easy to connect to it. And the fantasy isn't just inserted for no reason; its presence allows the movie to treat the subject of nature, and it brings this concept together with certain moments of the kids' and Hana's lives in some of the most visually striking scenes in the movie.

And as Tavor mentioned, Hana is an extremely strong character who is admirable in a realistic way. That Rivaille/Levi guy from SnK is getting a lot of hype because "he's as strong as a whole unit", but superpowers don't make for a truly strong character. If you want to see one of those, look no further than Hana.

And that scene with the animal hospital and the children's hospital...I still don't know how I'm supposed to feel during that scene.
May 26, 2013 11:53 PM
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As much as I complained about the sexism present in the movie, especially towards the end, that does not change the fact that this movie is outstanding. I watched it three times and loved it every time.

The animation, art, soundtrack, all of that is superb and the feeling you take away from the movie, at least the first half, is just really wonderful.

Pretty much what Popka said except maybe the Hana part- She starts out as very strong which is what makes her personality change in the second half so infuriating. But regardless, this movie does for sure belong on the Enlightenment list.
May 27, 2013 2:56 AM
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I went into this movie with rather average expectations. I quite enjoyed Hosada's previous movie Summer Wars but it never really clicked with me like it did with everyone else.

Plus I heard someone who saw it in Japan compare it to Clannad making me think it was going to be manipulative 'liek if yoo cri everytiem' drama that gets the kids all worked up.

I was not prepared for what was to happen. For a lack of a better word, it was absolutely enchanting. The soundtrack, the animation, the artistry, the characters and the drama were all absolutely superb.

Another thing I must commend it for is its lack of manipulation in the drama department. The premise may not be something you'd see in real life, but the emotion the movie invoked from me was more real than anything I'd seen in a long time.

Wolf Children isn't just a nice watch, it's quite possibly one of the best movies of all time or at the very least one of the best I'll likely ever see. So with that I cast my vote for Enlightenment
May 27, 2013 2:59 AM
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Definitely Option 1:

Wolf children is a wonderfully written film that takes intruiging fantasy premise and grounds it firmly into reality, creating a lovely family tale. It was great to see the situations that Ame and Yuki's half wolf traits brought about, truly feeling integral to the story instead of a gimmick.

I would greatly agree with Popka, Hana quickly became one of my favourite characters, thanks to the films sense of reality she is truly admirable for her perseverance. As for her change in the latter half, I didn't note it because I think I got what the writer was trying to do. It was a gamble, and clearly debatable as to it's effectiveness, but with the way that Ame and Yuki were gradually becoming more independent, conversely making her gradually appear weaker, the writer attempted to(IMO Suceeded, but hey we have our opinions) amplify the drama by synchronising the viewer and Hana, as both had seen the children grow up.

Anyway enough rambling from me, it would be a crying shame if this didn't make the enlightenment list
May 27, 2013 4:02 AM
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Not that my vote will change anything, but there has to be a dissenting opinion, so...

I kinda wish I could see greatness in this movie so many others do, but I just don't. Yes, it is heartwarming and charming family story that offers a surprisingly well executed mix of supernatural elements and more realistic issues like raising children and growing up, especially during the middle segment of the movie, but...it just didn't click with me. Which brings me to nitpicking parts. The beginning and the end really weren't nearly as strong as the middle section.
I understand that the relationship between the mother and the wolf guy (whom I don't know the name; does he even have a name? Oh, whatever, I'll call him Jacob) never meant to be the focus of the movie, but their story still seemed awkwardly presented and rushed so I cared little when Jacob kicked the bucket.
The part towards the end started testing my patience with DRAMA that felt maudlin and overblown (yay, I am a horrible human being).

The characters---wait, I am not writing a review here, stop before this turns into random rambling. Let's just say that I particularly appreciated those parts where the movie focused on capturing moments of Ame and Yuki simply being kids. Simple, yet powerful.

Overall, Wolf Children is perhaps the most Ghibli movie not made by Ghibli - that is to say, it possess a particular charm and is something I wouldn't hesitate to recommend to non-anime folks or watch it with my family.
It is a touching story, but not a particularly memorable one and, as I said before, I don't see it as Enlightenment-worthy.
metamorphiusMay 27, 2013 4:10 AM
May 27, 2013 4:18 AM
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Option 2

Ookami Kodomo is a good movie. It really is. I rated this one in my 8s, in which you can find series I'd probably deem enlightening (the latest one being Nausicaa), but it is barely below my very personal and subjective cutoff for enlightment.

I just can't see this movie as an essential watch or a modern classic of some sort, and I don't think it's among the highest quality or most memorable anime movies you can find on our enlightment list.

I can elaborate more if needed - my vote is against it, although barely.
May 27, 2013 1:33 PM

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Option 2

What Valk said.
May 27, 2013 2:07 PM

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Option 1

As said it's wonderfully written and represents a realistic view of childraising well while bringing in fantasy aspects. It was all played out so well, there was never any forced drama. Not to mention the great OST and visuals. The pacing was fine too, the relationship between the wolfman and Hana was rushed through but I think that's entirely forgivable considering the narrative is by Yuki. Also that's not the main point of the story.
May 27, 2013 3:38 PM
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Option 1
Without a doubt, Wolf Children doesn't tackle or present any dramatic themes about human nature, philosophy, etc. etc. What it does do, is make an fantastical premise and use it to, as said multiple times before, present an emotional, heartfelt story of parenthood/raising children.

Wonderful soundtrack, glorious visuals, and a tone throughout the movie that makes the movie's final farewell and closing credits all sorts of cathartic (the "climax" was kind of eh, to be honest though)

Charming, heartfelt, and without any narm inducing moments, Wolf Children made me take it's premise seriously, and in doing so, demonstrates the joys and struggles of parenthood (not that I'm an authority on the subject), as well as the emotions of finally letting go.
May 27, 2013 4:21 PM

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Option 1

The Wolf Children is, IMO, one of the highlights of the last 10 years in terms of anime. Not only is it a mature, well told story, using a setting that you almost never see in this media (The only other work I've seen in anime that was about parenthood was Usagi Drop), but it's also one of the most well executed I have seen in this media.

The directing is nothing short of amazing, picking the simple story and giving it a brilliant sense of pacing and atmosphere. And every single emotion the story tries to pass is showed perfectly, be it of sadness or happiness.

The writing is also great, picking what sounds cheesy and ridiculous (A woman raising her Wolf-Man children) and turning it into a believable and well written story, filled with humanity and no a single narmy moment in it (Ok, there is one at the begging, during a love scene between Hana and her Wolfman boyfriend). While it isn't a story that blows your mind with all it's deepness and symbolism and all that good stuff, it does pass it's message ( of how life has a cycle and nothing stays the same or stays with you forever) quite well, moving the heart of almost everyone with what happens in the story.

The animation is great, with the distinctive art you always see in Mamoru Hosoda's films. The orchestrated soundtrack is amazing and fits every scene perfectly.

The last thing I want to mention are the numeral scenes in the movie, where there is nothing except music and visuals. These montages are executed with the same amount of polish and effort put into them that the rest of the film has, and they make each time skip feel natural, beautiful and engaging, which is exactly what this movie is. Engaging all the time, natural, never being forced or fake and beautiful, always provoking emotions.
May 27, 2013 4:30 PM

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Option 2

Having checked out the Top Anime chart on a boring, rainy Sunday.. I chanced upon a nice little movie ranked #11 that seemed to pander to furries. Pushing the "judging the book by the cover" opinion aside, I decided to give it a go.

The random encounters between a nice university girl and a hairy tall dude began a lovely but inevitably short relationship. Along their journey of love, it just so happens that this hairy dude is a werewolf. We never find out why, but he just is.. and of course, through the power of love, this gal accepts that she's making love with a fairytale beast. Yadda yadda yadda, they have kids.. we watch them grow as this admirable girl takes care of them, and that's about it.

Believe me, the character interactions are what make this charming movie.. but the problem I have with it is the fact that it is the cliche 'mother goes through the trouble to take care of her children' story that hides behind furry ears and a tail. There is nothing 'excellent' about this movie, and there certainly isn't anything original. It merely panders to those who find such things as 'wolf children' cute, while using generically written character interactions to help them grow a tad bit with the little development they have. The only redeeming character is Hana, and even then she's barely fleshed out.

Also, it seemed the director tried to force too much emotion.. I mean, how emotional can tending to a garden get? Too much attempts to bring about all this emotion on these mediocre tragedies and events became so robotic and an instant bore. I really couldn't find anything admirable about this movie to even remotely consider it 'enlightening'. Sure, it's better than lame romcoms and harems.. and the movie per se certainly isn't bad.. it's just overrated and does not deserve the staggering #11 rank it has attained.. and it definitely doesn't deserve to be on the enlightenment list.
May 27, 2013 4:39 PM
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It is too unremarkable to be on either of our lists.


Just finished this.

This movie has no real story and is just a tale that shows how much love a mother has for her children. It's one of those "feel good" anime that sadly failed to make me "feel good", it just didn't click with me that much.

Valkyrion said:


I just can't see this movie as an essential watch or a modern classic of some sort, and I don't think it's among the highest quality or most memorable anime movies you can find on our enlightment list.


Pretty much this.
Jun 2, 2013 5:46 PM

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With 8 votes for Enlightenment and 5 votes for Unremarkable, I draw this poll to an end. Thank you for voting.
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