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| Confusing anime 7/10, Kuromitsu probably the prettiest chick in anime. |
| Shows how eternal life isnt something so easy to deal with. First episodes I really enjoyed, then it was more action based, and in the end a somewhat satisfying ending. I'd say it's worth 8/10 for me, the end got me back into the story, as it got a bit more serious on the eternal life part. |
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| what the fuck is with the ending? seriously what fuck??!! |
Got something to live for, I know that I won't surrender, A warrior of youth, I'm taking over, a shot to the new world order I Am Bulletproof. . .  |
| I disliked the ending.Its basically a everything repeats itself ending instead of a actual ending. |
| Wow people werent kidding when they said this was confusing. Im pretty sure Im not the only who didnt quite get the ending, actually I dont think even the writers know what happened. Well it was an entertaining show overall. Lots of awesome action and blood although some episodes felt disconnected which kinda made a little more sense after the ending. Well I got a feeling it could have been better but was good overall. |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
blanked said: After reading spoilers online, Kuromitsu in her teenage years found a man wash ashore and is near death. The man asked if he can drink her blood but Kuromitsu ran back into the village and told people there is a talking corpse. Two men along with Kuromitsu went back into the scene but there is only a dead man. The two men then thought this is their chance to get laid so they attempted to rape Kuromitsu but the dead man grabbed one man in the neck and threw him into the sea and the other one ran back in fear. The dead man(a vampire) asked again if he can drink her blood. Kuromitsu agreed so that the story how she turned into a vampire.Would you mind getting the answer what happen to kuromitsu about 100 yrs ago when she was mortal and she find with the man with the white hair ... ?? Still not getting it...?? |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
| Okay, I just finished the anime yes, yes I know it's too late for me to reply but what the heck I'm going to do it anyway. The Confusing romance between KuroXKuromitsu was a bit heart breaking sometimes *cough* especially during the kuon moment *you know which one....* *cough* even though that body was going to Kuro she didn't have to do it that early.....*sigh*. Oh man that really made my heart ache. from my understanding it was all the douchebag Benkei's fault. The reason is because, the head detaching shet that Kuromitsu was doing is because of Kuro being decapitated by Benkei during his initial transformation. So Kuromitsu had to keep changing Kuro's body every decade or so because of it's decay. After awhile she kind of found a solution by creating Kuon. Kuon was initial mean for Kuro to have an everlasting body, because of the Genes that it was created from. so here's a quick short map Intial transformation --> Benkei You Idiot --> Endless Cycle --> Kuon Solution --> Weird ass ending. if it wasn't for Benkei it would of been like this Initial transformation --> Good Ending with the possibility of them not dying till the actual end of time. That's all. P.S : Ouch! Kuromitsu why you do dis with kuon the unreplaced head version!!!! EDIT : Whooops it looks like someone beat me to it, well it's only been 2 years since he beat me to it lol. But well yeah that summarises everything. |
Rage5110Jun 11, 2015 2:06 PM
 "We are Anonymous, We are Legion, We do not forgive, We do not Forget, Expect Us." |
| This definitely is not an anime for those who like tidy packages at the end. I really liked the anime and didn't mind the strange characters (like the beetle guy). At the end, I just felt sorry for Kuro. 8/10 |
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| Kuromitsu should've f*cked both guys in the beginning (Benkei and Kuro). Problem solved. No more b*llshit dramas, unnecessary plots, and excessive murders. |
| @Rage5110 Well, all that stand and all, but how do you explain that every time he get "revived" all characters are there, everything happends how it happened before only different setting (" year")? We can see it clearly in the last episode that everything repeats itself. Also Kuro had deja vu in episode 1 saying that everything feels familiar. Does Kuromitsu have ability to control time or something? I guess ill have to read manga for more info. But regardless i had enjoyed this anime a lot |
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Rage5110 said: from my understanding it was all the douchebag Benkei's fault. The reason is because, the head detaching shet that Kuromitsu was doing is because of Kuro being decapitated by Benkei during his initial transformation. Lol, I like the way you said that. But yeah, definitely all Benkei's fault why Kurou has to keep suffering this eternal cycle of getting his head cut off and finding Kuromitsu, only to get his head cut off again. Second culprit would be Kuromitsu, but how can you blame someone who didn't wish for immortality. She finally found someone she really loved, and it would be scary to keep living without him, for eternity. People should read ApeironEros's interpretation, I think it's the only one in this thread that has the best explanation for the cycle, and seeing Benkei and other characters once again. The reason why Benkei is at the end again, and you see Rai, Hasegawa, etc. in what looks like a different timeline is because they are reincarnations. Kurou might continuously meet them again, as time goes on, but in a different setting and in a different lifetime (for those characters). The reincarnation reminds me of one of my favorite anime... While the last episode was great in tying up the story and explaining all the questions the audience had, I can't say that it was a really enjoyable watch. Ultimately, it has a really interesting idea yet it failed to deliver. I really like the idea of co-dependency between Kuromitsu and Kurou, that it was actually Kuromitsu who needed Kurou all along, as well as the idea of an endless cycle and reincarnations. I now understand Archaeon's review about seeing this as a "what-if tale," which I had no clue what he meant by. I think partially why I didn't like it as much I wanted to is because of some of the episodes or things that happened just didn't feel significant to the overall theme, or the ideas in which we finally understand in the end. For example, the turtle guy and that lady? Maybe they were there to show as a parallel (sort of) to Kuromitsu and Kurou, in that they completed each other, although not in a romantic way. Idk. Or maybe it was that I really didn't care about the bad guys, they were so one dimensional; that weird hair dude seemed to live for fighting, Hasaegawa dude wanted an immortal body, or something...it was hard to feel anything for any of the characters, although I suspect that was the point. It probably reflects how detached Kurou is with any other characters as he repeats the cycles. Wow I think I just answered a lot of my own problems with the series. Anyways, I think this is the first anime that I've said WTF so many times out loud X) Maybe it's just not for me, and that's okay. Aside from the interesting themes/ideas, I also enjoyed having to think a lot at the end. I don't think this is an anime that you can use your normal way of rating for, if you do rate critically. Kurozuka is definitely a "what-if" tale, and in the end, it was meant to give you the same experience as Kurou did, as well as revolving around the idea of an eternal cycle motivated by love, fear of loneliness, and co-dependency. I won't fault it for the lack of character development or characterization or whatever character-related points. This was neither character driven nor plot driven. If anything, I definitely praise the anime for its entertaining cinematography and how dramatic scenes can be (in a good). Damn I wrote a lot... |
tingyOct 26, 2015 3:50 AM
| I thought of it as pure hell, sure staying immortal ageless is probably nice, but repeating the cycle of hell over and over and over and over and over again! Is just uggh no, just let that man die! |
Alfazeroneko will come back, surely he will be back from the dead :) |
| Whoa, crazy ride it has been. From what I grasp from the ending, the relationship between Kuro and Kuromitsu transcends that of a single time line. Variations of the same events take place over the same period of time with every cycle in this infinite merry-go-round slightly different than the other. Well thats just what I got from the end anyways :l |
| Entertaining, beatutiful and confusing in equal measure. this last episode was a pretty good ending. Kuro and Kuromitsu really had a love that trascends space and time. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Called it: Kuro is Kuromitsu's play thing. The interesting thing is that the first episode was not the first time. Not that it matters, but I can't help but wonder how long they've been playing this game. 7/10 (good) It could have been better if some of the nonsense had been cut out. |
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| I don't understand why Kuromitsu intented to create an immortal body to which Kuro's head could be attached if she, by her own admission, was simply looking to repeat the head-goes-on, head-goes-off cycle. Am I missing something here? Also, why did she endevour to make Kuro into an immortal at the very beginning of the show? As was laid out in the last episode he was already immortal at that point, was he not (well his head, to be more precise)? |
| I feel like this is definitely an ending that will divide the viewers. It makes me wonder if the creators set out with a goal to make the audience have long and heated debates regarding the conclusion and events leading up to it, or if it was just some wry and sardonic prank. |
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tradedaemon said: she should have let him die if she truly loved him. And should have killed her by now. The ending is dissapointing.noteDhero said: Sorry, I went in not knowing about the manga, and I found the show to be quite shallow. There was no deep conversation of love at all in this show...just a horrifying codependency that doesn't really ever get explained. The fights were good in the beginning, and just petered off towards the end. They clearly blew their load in the first few episodes, and then decided to try and make a story around it all, and once they realized that they had nothing, they made up the excuse that it's a bizarre mobius strip. Meh, I read the manga, and didn't think so. If you had your head cut off, and all you knew was that this woman kuromitsu knew who and what you were, wouldn't you seek here out? When Kuro was a head, he wantetd to die. So what's wrong with it ending showing codependency that Kuromitsu was the one who needed Kuro? I think cause they only had a budget for 12 episodes, they had to mix some stuff around. |
Tem-Inburn said: I wished Kuromitsu had let Kuro die (if he can die). It would have a made a more coherent ending and given the series some closure. i dunno about this series, it just didn't seem to know where it was going half the time. I don't know whether it was worth sticking it through till the end or not. she cannot because she is a selfish bitch. she does not have the will to go on unless there is someone that loves her as a woman. It is called narcissism . she needs him to confirm her existence still has value. She does not truly care about him. She just wants to be loved. If the ones that loves her is condemned to live trough hell again and again so be it. think about it. she asks her to let him die but she refuses and deletes his memories. she is toxic and the only way this could have a happy end is if Kuro eventually manages to kill her. |
tingy said: Rage5110 said: from my understanding it was all the douchebag Benkei's fault. The reason is because, the head detaching shet that Kuromitsu was doing is because of Kuro being decapitated by Benkei during his initial transformation. Lol, I like the way you said that. But yeah, definitely all Benkei's fault why Kurou has to keep suffering this eternal cycle of getting his head cut off and finding Kuromitsu, only to get his head cut off again. Second culprit would be Kuromitsu, but how can you blame someone who didn't wish for immortality. She finally found someone she really loved, and it would be scary to keep living without him, for eternity. People should read ApeironEros's interpretation, I think it's the only one in this thread that has the best explanation for the cycle, and seeing Benkei and other characters once again. The reason why Benkei is at the end again, and you see Rai, Hasegawa, etc. in what looks like a different timeline is because they are reincarnations. Kurou might continuously meet them again, as time goes on, but in a different setting and in a different lifetime (for those characters). The reincarnation reminds me of one of my favorite anime... While the last episode was great in tying up the story and explaining all the questions the audience had, I can't say that it was a really enjoyable watch. Ultimately, it has a really interesting idea yet it failed to deliver. I really like the idea of co-dependency between Kuromitsu and Kurou, that it was actually Kuromitsu who needed Kurou all along, as well as the idea of an endless cycle and reincarnations. I now understand Archaeon's review about seeing this as a "what-if tale," which I had no clue what he meant by. I think partially why I didn't like it as much I wanted to is because of some of the episodes or things that happened just didn't feel significant to the overall theme, or the ideas in which we finally understand in the end. For example, the turtle guy and that lady? Maybe they were there to show as a parallel (sort of) to Kuromitsu and Kurou, in that they completed each other, although not in a romantic way. Idk. Or maybe it was that I really didn't care about the bad guys, they were so one dimensional; that weird hair dude seemed to live for fighting, Hasaegawa dude wanted an immortal body, or something...it was hard to feel anything for any of the characters, although I suspect that was the point. It probably reflects how detached Kurou is with any other characters as he repeats the cycles. Wow I think I just answered a lot of my own problems with the series. Anyways, I think this is the first anime that I've said WTF so many times out loud X) Maybe it's just not for me, and that's okay. Aside from the interesting themes/ideas, I also enjoyed having to think a lot at the end. I don't think this is an anime that you can use your normal way of rating for, if you do rate critically. Kurozuka is definitely a "what-if" tale, and in the end, it was meant to give you the same experience as Kurou did, as well as revolving around the idea of an eternal cycle motivated by love, fear of loneliness, and co-dependency. I won't fault it for the lack of character development or characterization or whatever character-related points. This was neither character driven nor plot driven. If anything, I definitely praise the anime for its entertaining cinematography and how dramatic scenes can be (in a good). Damn I wrote a lot... so you defend Kuromitsu? I have no problem with her re-attaching the head the first times, but when he said he wanted to die she should have let him. She is a selfish narcissistic bitch. |
nightcrawlercyp said: so you defend Kuromitsu? I have no problem with her re-attaching the head the first times, but when he said he wanted to die she should have let him. She is a selfish narcissistic bitch. No, I said that I don't blame her, meaning I understood her state of mind and intentions when she made Kurou immortal. However that does not mean I defend her or justify what she did to keep Kurou alive despite him not wanting to be alive anymore. |
tingy said: ohk then. then I guess we agree.nightcrawlercyp said: so you defend Kuromitsu? I have no problem with her re-attaching the head the first times, but when he said he wanted to die she should have let him. She is a selfish narcissistic bitch. No, I said that I don't blame her, meaning I understood her state of mind and intentions when she made Kurou immortal. However that does not mean I defend her or justify what she did to keep Kurou alive despite him not wanting to be alive anymore. |
nightcrawlercyp said: ohk then. then I guess we agree. :) Might've been my fault for not being clear enough. |
| I liked the ending. Very meta. Eveything is just playing out over and over again. Same people. Same scenarios. All with a twist to make it different. Just enough to keep Kuromitsu from becoming bored. I liked the last image of the light of her hut in the middle of a wasteland. Meaning it's hell and Bankai and Kuro are doomed too wander the same ground/history forever. |
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| At the beginning of this show I thought to myself "this show is trying to mess with my head" then as I kept on watching, it got worse. Then when I thought I had seen a light at the tunnel the show decided to fuck with my brain. As for this ending I understand nothing concrete in this show so I rate 6/10 because of the art |
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| Pretty solid ending with a pretty lovely story! Quited like the overall setting and atmosphere from the start, and somewhere it did gave me a bit of a hint away from Hell Girl! Pretty lovely ending in general and all in all a good anime I must say! |
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| what a retarded show |
| Gotta love the trope of beginning is end and end is beginning. |
blessofcurse said: Yes, it was confusing af and I have to agree, Kuromitsu is really pretty...Confusing anime 7/10, Kuromitsu probably the prettiest chick in anime. |
| oi oi oi, at first I thought the last few scenes were taking the whole "life flashing before your eyes" thing a little too seriously. Then they pan out from the forest and its nothing but ruined city. Mind = blown, literally wtf did i even just watch |
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| After reading comments I think I'm in a bit of a unique boat. I'm not upset i couldn't follow it, because it wasn't that difficult. But...meh, this was good until half way through. I get the fact that the entire show, from the 1st minute onward, was supposed to be a cycle of him dying from her and waking up again in a new body, meeting her again and again and again. Even in the first episode, but the show makes it look like he's waking up again in the past since this episode ends with where the show begins. This episode alone annoyed me, Benkei loved kuromitsu? That kinda came out of left field...definitely nothing to suggest whatsoever that he really knew the extent of kurou's relationship to her cus the first ep never showed any of that or really hinted at it nor did it really hint at or show any scenes where Benkei "loved" her. While the story is supposed to not tell you everything, at least I would like to watch something that doesn't purposefully eliminate scenes in order to create an artificial "wtf" moment in which there would be no way you could possibly come to the same conclusion even when everything gets revealed at the end. EDIT: Just read the 2nd chapter of the manga, yeah, the anime alters the story. in the anime, Benkai leaves the next morning after arriving at her house and comes back the next time as a villain, in the manga, he lives with the two of them and sees them going off and their affection and theres dialogue suggesting that he had a thing for kuromitsu too. That's just sloppy, the director didn't even realize they cut that part out when they made this final episode...lol.... Also, the Red Imperial organization, who are they? Why do they create demons? Who was really leading them, Benkai was their "leader" but at the same time it felt like he was just a figurehead? Kuromitsu joins them at some point, in order for her to try and create Kuro's perfect body. But what was their angle? Immortality seemed to be their organizations goal back 1000 years before Benkai killed the old geezer, but what about today? Surely not the same, now that Kuromitsu is apart of the very organization. Also can't forget about the cast of characters whose only purpose is to die, lots of enemies and friends alike with no story of their own. Lots of questions to trivial things about the plot that add up to a large chunk, but no answers to be found. Kuromitsu said at the start they could never be together but they would be connected forever, so this "revelation" isn't much of a surprise to me. I just felt like the plot was too convoluted for such a basic story of obsession and one sided love (Sucks Kurou can't die). There's nothing deep, or any major revelations about besides the Benkei thing (to me) that you can't come up with along the way. Maybe the novel or manga is different, but I just don't think this was done well at all in this format. Kinda sucks, but i was super into this show for the first half...maybe the novel/manga is much better, but for this, 6/10 |
Venom900Mar 13, 2017 9:21 PM
 "To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" |
| Didn't understand shit about this last episode want's to give it 8 but overall 7/10 |
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SilentPredator03 said: Let me preface this by saying this is what I got out of it and not definitive. This is from a combination of the series and reading the manga. DeathfireD said: I'm also a bit confused as to what actually happened towards the end where Kuro shows up in the city before it's destroyed, running from the red army. Was that just a random flashback to show how the city got fucked up in the first place? I don't think it was a flashback, but rather a flash forward. When you see Kurou wake up, he looks upon the city that is completely rebuilt. Add to that the fact that in the following clips we get a quick glimpse of the Red Emperor (Benkei) ordering them to find and kill Kuromitsu. Now he lifts his hand up briefly and you can see just how much it has shriveled - showing that he's aged even more after the time we see him meeting with Kuromitsu. Afterall, he gained immortality and Kurou didn't cut his head off after their duel. I think this point is just to show that the cycle of Kurou and Kuromitsu meeting and running from their pursuers is endless. Also what was the point of Kuon's body? Was it really just a replacement for Kuro's body? If so why? Is his head the only thing that doesn't age? Kuon was created specifically for Kurou - as he needs to replace his body every 100 years or so. The reason Kurou has to change bodies every 100 years is because when he drank Kuromitsu's blood, Benkei chopped his head off before the blood could finish mixing. Kuon is actually a 'complete' immortal like Kuromitsu. She created him in hopes that giving Kurou an immortal body would eliminate the need for him to switch bodies. It's not that his body doesn't age, it's just that it can't take the constant damage and regeneration. After awhile it begins to weaken until he can't move anymore. I can see from the very end that they did not actually "go back in time" since there was buildings destroyed all around the forest that Kuro and Benkei where in. I can only guess that this is a never ending cycle that Kuro and Kuromitsu created into order to survive and keep their relationship fresh. Not so much to keep their relationship fresh as it is a necessity of Kurou switching bodies. As she is being pursued, Kuromitsu can't exactly wait around for Kurou to finish joining to his new body and she has faith in him that he'll find her. Also the evil old guy was still not explained other then he wanted Kuromitsu dead... The 'evil old guy' is Benkei. He was jealous of Kurou for his relationship with Kuromitsu. He betrayed Kurou to the group that was chasing them at the time and found out that Kuromitsu is immortal. He spends the next 1000 years chasing her so that he could tell her his feelings. A little bit crazy and obsessive? Yeah, but look what she did to Koun. This is a woman who has a great power over men. Overall, the 'ending' is left up for the viewer to decide. Was it a dream? Possibly, but the destroyed landscape around the jungle suggests not. You know, I don't even care if your explanation is right or not...but I like it and seems highly logical....so I'm gonna just go with what you said so this makes more sense to me. Overall I really enjoyed this show, but they could've been a little clearer hinting at WTF was going on in the end for folks that have ONLY watched this anime. I mean I like open ended and all sometimes, but open is one thing though confused as #$% is another. Anyway, thanks for your take on this....I like it and it fits quite well. :D |
| this anime was just so bad and painful to watch even if Mamoru is one of the seiyuu... 3 or even 2/10 only Rai was an enjoyable character |
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SympathyRS said: blessofcurse said: Yes, it was confusing af and I have to agree, Kuromitsu is really pretty...Confusing anime 7/10, Kuromitsu probably the prettiest chick in anime. I have to agree too, I was completely hypnotized by Kuromitsu every time she appeared and I almost spent the entire show waiting for her appearances lol |
| It's amazing that what had such a promissing start ended up being so damn average. If you cut out episode 3 to 10 you woud essentially have the exact same story since nothing important actually happened inbetween. I mean if you dedicate 10 confusing episodes only to justify it in your last two with the 'reveal' of what was going on that doesn't justify the hours wasted on the previous stuff. And let's not forget the complete tonal shift in the later episodes that made it feel like they got different directors with different visions, from a philosophical show, to the matrix, to a weird comedy. 6/10 I'd give it less but the action was good so it's only fair. But what a waste of a cool concept imo. |
| I've been here way too long... |
| It was good animation at least Story was confusing to begin with, but by the end its just becomes unfollowable. Did some research on it source material, as I expected all the versions are different (original novel, manga or anime). Manga atleast has better ending compared to anime. In the end I can only pity the original novel. Lesser known novel like this one get such a horrible treatment in the name of director's experimentation and nobody knows enough to notice If anyone is searching for any sort of meaning or symbolism for ending, don't waste ur time. By the end the anime director stopped caring about the story, He just wanted to put up a mind screw somehow. It's probably a anime original ending where director trying to look smart but failing miserably which resulted in nonsensical ending. If 3 people with different vision are trying to script a 12 episode series without following original work this is what supposed to happen |
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| A stylish psychedelic cerebral bloody samurai sci-fi arthouse action story. This is the kind of shit 'Japanimation' boomers thought all anime was. I loved it. Lots of credit given to the director/storyboarders for putting so much emotional weight into every second of this. |
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