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Jul 19, 2014 1:35 PM

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Actually, in Nagisa's defense, IF (and only if) she does become Center Nova, she will outshine Chieri

From what I managed to piece together from watching through this entire series as many times as I did (heck, even marathoned the ENTIRE thing from the start of season 1 to the end of season 2), Chieri and Nagisa can be considered equals in a sense. I like to think of it this way:

Acchan's light = the best in the entire series

This is described and emphasized numerous times throughout the episodes. Acchan's light is the brightest, and logically so as she has the shine of both a successor AND a Center Nova combined.

I think ultimately, neither Nagisa or Chieri could manage shining as bright individually. It makes sense when you think of it this way because:

Nagisa = Successor, but NOT Center Nova
Chieri = Center Nova, but NOT Successor

And, as previously stated, Acchan the 13th has the glow of both combined. And whenever Acchan's light is discovered or mentioned in this series beforehand, it was always when Nagisa and Chieri were together. It would make sense then, that:

Acchan's light = Successor + Center Nova, then
Nagisa's light [successor] + Chieri's light [Center Nova] = Acchan's light = Best in the entire series

And so, what would happen if Nagisa were to become Center Nova?

Nagisa's light = Successor + Center Nova = Acchan's light

In this situation, Nagisa would have Acchan's light entirely to herself. There is absolutely no way she would not outshine everyone else bar Acchan the 13th herself. I understand that Chieri achieving Center Nova status without succession is a remarkable feat in the history of 0048 as a whole, but that doesn't mean she stands above and beyond everyone else just for that alone.

Also, let's not knock off the weight of succeeding Acchan, as it was officially described to be something quite special in the anime (especially when rumors were spreading that Chieri was a potential candidate for succeeding Acchan). So saying that Nagisa is "just another successor" is really writing off some great potential. *cough* 1idd0kun *cough* *cough*

Also, I don't quite know what you're talking about Rayla, but Nagisa had the greatest character development in the entire series. She literally went from being a pushover with a lack of confidence to becoming the 14th Acchan. She developed her own personal resolve as opposed to how she used to just aspire to becoming like Yuuko. Her development is one of the main reasons why she's my favorite character (you know, in case you guys weren't able to guess).

Aug 3, 2014 2:01 AM
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Okay series, but I really didn't like focus on Nagisa and Chieri, when there were also Yuka, Orine, and other girls who are also main characters, and, IMO, much better characters.

Kanata, Sonata, Suzuko, Makoto, Takamina, Mimori, and rest seemed much more interesting than Nagisa and Chieri; well at least Chieri was better than Nagisa.

Also, how unpredictable (sarcasm) Nagisa became new Acchan.

Btw, I found Atsuko Maeda's character really disgusting with her constant retarded smiling, total garbage, if you ask me.
And everyone talked about little annoying bitch like she's some sort of god.

Also, I find message about Center Nova also disgusting, like it's about one person being on higher level than other people, and outshining them.
It makes me throw up.
KleferiAug 3, 2014 2:12 AM
Aug 27, 2014 7:02 AM
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AeonEsperKyo said:
Actually, in Nagisa's defense, IF (and only if) she does become Center Nova, she will outshine Chieri

From what I managed to piece together from watching through this entire series as many times as I did (heck, even marathoned the ENTIRE thing from the start of season 1 to the end of season 2), Chieri and Nagisa can be considered equals in a sense. I like to think of it this way:

Acchan's light = the best in the entire series


It doesn't work like that. Remember that in order to successfully disappear the Center Nova have to reach the ultimate radiance. So we can conclude that all the Center Nova who disappeared have the same kind of light. Acchan the 13th isn't particularly more radiant that the others who disappeared. She's just more relevant to the story because she was the last Center Nova to disappear and because she was an Acchan and that's a pretty famous name. But that's all.

So even if Chieri wasn't at the level of Acchan yet, and it makes sense if she isn't since she's pretty new as Center Nova, she'll get there eventually. Remember, all the Center Nova get more radiant as time passes. That's why DES wanted to kill Chieri if they couldn't capture her in the last episode. They knew (and they said so) that she would become more and more powerful if they didn't manage to stop her now.

AeonEsperKyo said:
Also, I don't quite know what you're talking about Rayla, but Nagisa had the greatest character development in the entire series.


Chieri had the greatest character development. Remember she was pretty cold at first and also had a pretty big inferiority complex, but she got over all that. She changed the most of them all. That's character development.

That's not to say Nagisa's character didn't develop at all. She also grew quite a lot, just not as much as Chieri.

AeonEsperKyo said:
So saying that Nagisa is "just another successor" is really writing off some great potential. *cough* 1idd0kun *cough* *cough*


You took that out of context. Regardless of radiance and all that, becoming Center Nova means you get to be center in all the performances with the successor members. That's explained in the series website. Chieri became the Center Nova, so she's now the official and sole center of 00. Nagisa, no matter how famous Acchan's name is or how radiant she is, won't perform as center. That's what I ment when I said she's "just" a successor. I wasn't trying to downplay the name or anything.
1idd0kunAug 27, 2014 7:20 AM
Oct 11, 2014 12:42 AM
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The absurdity is what made the show interesting. It's not for everyone of course, you kinda need an open mind for these odd anime.
Apr 9, 2015 5:02 PM

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-After all, who is sensei-sensei...?

-Who did that with Nagisa's father..? The DES..? I thought that DES and Zodiac worked together.

-I didn't get what is that other World (or dimension) where Acchan and some of the others Center Novas are. What they do there? Protect the AKB00048? Protect the entertainment? Ok, but... how is their lives in this another World (dimension)..?! They only showed some space, some stairs, some pics of some of the Center Novas and Acchan talking and hugging Yuuko... I wanted to know more about it... =/
Jun 3, 2015 2:10 AM
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I just realize, in 18:00.. that power (Colorfull Glow/Aura/Radiance for Defend DES attack) on Nagisa and Cheiri, is from Nagisa!! Nagisa glow first before Cheiri hand glow!!.
That mean Nagisa have all Acchan/Atsuko powers :D

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I Don't seen AKB0048 / NM0048 save any member from Center Nova xD
S-QuadrupleJun 4, 2015 12:06 AM
Sep 9, 2015 6:47 PM

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Great ending episode I must say, it was intense, lovely, cute and just damn impressive! It's still somewhat left open and with 2 years already past it's a bit sad to see there isn't a third season for this great series!

Either way it was a great ride watching both season and I really must say that I enjoyed it!
Oct 7, 2015 9:36 AM

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I...want...more, damn why no season 3
Jan 24, 2016 12:45 AM

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Amazing finale. Didn't come in to this show expecting such an epic anime.
10/10 hope there's a akb0048 'final stage' movie someday.
Jul 13, 2016 4:58 AM
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Well... After wondering for a while... I thought..
If all the current members (except Mimori / Mariko) graduated.. Then..
Nagisa :Acchan
Chieri : Minegishi Minami
Kanata: Takamina
Sonata : Oshima Yuuko
Yuka : Mayuyu
Orine: Kashiwagi Yuki
Some relative of Tomochin : Tomochin
Suzuko : Backstage manager along with Tsubasa-San
Now, who will Makoto succeed is my biggest question. Put your suggestions below.
P. S: I am merely making these assumptions by comparing the characters and their personalities. You guys can definitely put up your suggestions as this is merely a fan based assumption
Jul 20, 2016 12:29 AM
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lemonian said:
but that eventually Nagisa will one day take
over the spot for Center Nova and Outshine everyone!


1idd0kun said :
That's unlikely considering she could never truly surpass Chieri during the series. She might reach the same level after Chieri disappears, but she will never outshine her. Heck, Chieri's probably the youngest Center Nova in the history of 00, and is definitely the first girl who gets the position without succeeding. She's something special.


Here, I strongly agree with +lemonian because in the anime, they showed that Nagisa was equally talented and gifted as Chieri,only that she herself didn't know about it.( Chieri and Tsubasa-san agree that Nagisa was very special themselves) Moreover, in Akb0048 history, Acchan was always considered as a center and as a very radiant person. Therefore, matching Acchan's radiance is no easy task. However, Nagisa matched that dazzling radiance of Acchan. Chieri, no matter how radiant she was ( even up to the power of becoming Center Nova ) , Motomiya Nagisa could always surpass Chieri Sono if she really, really dedicated herself. In fact, that is what gives Nagisa the speciality of the main character in the series .
AiraandNagisa48Jul 22, 2016 10:43 PM
Feb 26, 2018 9:23 PM

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this was bull how the hell did chieri became center while nagi didnt.thats unfair.i really hate chieri more than before always breaking the rules to accommodate her.somehow she feels like a fake i cant really explain it, but her character sucks and she just get things handed to her somehow i just dont like her at all.for the whole show she had the spot light and when nagi was to get a little airtime for herself she had to but in and became center i mean come on cant nagi get five mins for crying out loud .this sucks ass


agreed

and whats the point of succeeding aachan is if shes not the center..

i hate authors who shaft the main and focus on someone else as if they were..
Oct 19, 2019 11:40 AM

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I see Yuuko has come back, Acchan's advice really got through to her, and it was great seeing her on this last performance. Congratulations to Nagisa for making successor as the new Acchan, she kinda deserved it after managing to pull on such a good performance and manage to calm down the crowd. Her radiance popped out on this last episode, and I'm truly happy for her since she's been taking the role of a back character for a long time. But this season was Chieri's, who managed to take center nova without succession and without disappearing, her radiance must've been so strong that she managed to keep her identity and star power. She went beyond radiance, and now others after her will be called Chieri the second and so on. Great performance and I loved how they fought off DES with their song.

This season focused on Chieri, and was all about her development character. Don't get me wrong I like her, but I felt the story introduced us to Nagisa and should've lived according to that to the end. In some instances I couldn't give a damn about Chieri or her radiance on the show, but oh well it is what is! I was mostly rooting for Nagisa all along and wanted her to shine more, too bad she didn't get the power up I wanted. She made a great case of an inspirational character, and the writers failed to bring that out. Chieri came from a rich family and kinda didn't have challenges that should've made her take the spotlight of the show. Yeah her father was a jerk-off, and was the one who gave them troubles, but still I didn't like her idea of taking center stage for the show.

7/10.
lihle808Oct 19, 2019 11:43 AM
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Oct 13, 2020 9:52 AM

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i just finished this series ..

i still wondering who is sensei-sensei ?

still confusing , i hope this will get 3rd season but it just a dream maybe..
May 9, 2021 3:01 AM
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Wow that was something xD so Nagisa = Acchan and Chieri = center nova, well it makes sense.
Good final and good season overall, as good as the previous one.
May 18, 2021 7:54 AM

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And so it ends. This season was a marginal improvement over the last season but it still not a very good show. 4/10.
TitanInsaneMay 28, 2021 1:48 AM
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This season is giving chieri to much favor from became popular because of her father plot and now became center nova, how much the director love chieri is questionable
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