A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
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| So if you one MISAKA to like you then... BOOM! Instant Harem! |
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| That was quite the freaky scene with the clones, and the guy who reversed the blood was neat, I can't wait for Touma to fight him. |
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| I dont know whether Accelerator is evil or just an asshole |
Cortez321 said: Maybe both? I just want to know more meaty details about this level 6 creation plan and who's behind it. Plus want to see the inevitable Accelerator vs Touma fight. But I'm thinking Mikoto might get a taste of combat before Touma does.I dont know whether Accelerator is evil or just an asshole |
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| Touma fought Accelerator since he doesn't like Misaka being abused much. IMHO. |
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| Seeing and understanding Accelerators abilities was pretty sweet, but a rather fluff type of episode. |
roysen said: It's realistic. If someone gets a memory wipe, then is told what they're supposed to remember, it's not going to have much emotional impact on them, simply because they don't actually remember.I'm still troubled by Touma's memory loss and way of dealing with it. Dunno, but shouldn't a person be more troubled by such a loss of memories? Why does Touma, most of the time, seem like he doesn't give a shit? Ugh - EDIT: ugh, I keep spelling it 'remeber' >.< |
JadeMatrixDec 18, 2008 11:46 AM
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| I diasgree Jade Matrix, I think that you'll see with people who are in the early stages of Altzheimer's, where they are aware that they have forgotten people and places and things, when they are confronted with something they have forgotten, it is very distressing and mentally exhausting. I think it is a testament to crappy writing, trying to make Touma a blank slate that makes his laisse faire attitude disturbing. I can't think of many cases, in TV, anime, or movies where a character has lost his memory and taken it as well as Touma. It's just lazy writing. |
noteDhero said: Counter-disagree. People with Alzheimer's have selective memory loss. I'm talking about a total loss of a period of time (usually caused by amnesia). In Touma's case, he lost the past few weeks (or more?) completely, thus he didn't have a feeling that he was forgetting something (probably felt like he was unconscious for the entire time).I diasgree Jade Matrix, I think that you'll see with people who are in the early stages of Altzheimer's, where they are aware that they have forgotten people and places and things, when they are confronted with something they have forgotten, it is very distressing and mentally exhausting. I think it is a testament to crappy writing, trying to make Touma a blank slate that makes his laisse faire attitude disturbing. I can't think of many cases, in TV, anime, or movies where a character has lost his memory and taken it as well as Touma. It's just lazy writing. Of course, if it was me, I hope I'd be Genre Savvy enough to immediately accept what I'm told and fabricate the necessary emotions. Hope it never happens — amnesia sux. |
JadeMatrixDec 18, 2008 11:50 AM
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| I'm under the impression that he has forgotten everything prior to waking up in the hospital (I could be wrong). Also, I would think that if one is distressed over selective memory loss, they would also be much more so over massive memory loss...people saying they know you and you don't remember, etc. The point is thought that he is forgetting something, and taking it like a grain of salt. Even if you want to say it was like being unconscious, people who wake up from comas and have lost days, months, years, are severely distressed by at least the amount of time they lost. |
noteDhero said: That's a different kind of distressed. With selective memory loss, it's "There's something I should know but I dont," whereas in Touma's case it's "This person knows me, but I don't know them — what do I do?"Also, I would think that if one is distressed over selective memory loss, they would also be much more so over massive memory loss...people saying they know you and you don't remember, etc. |
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| What about the coma analogy? There should be distress over the fact that you have 2+ weeks wiped away, and that the cause is this annoying little girl that you are continuously jumping through hoops over. It's bad execution of his character to not explain that, he gets annoyed over such little minutae like taking in a cat, or food getting eaten up, but the girl causing him memory loss? Does not compute. |
noteDhero said: I'd pass it as some kind of inverted drama. Big life-changing experiences, like taking in a mysterious girl (for a reason unknown thanks to memory wipe) or fighting mages who 'aren't supposed to exist,' are things that need to be believed can only be believed or not believed if you're told you've done them. However, his personality is still intact, so he can get annoyed by 'minutæ.' Touma also seems to have a rather laid-back personality, as in 'not much I can do since it already happened.' (Yes, this applied to Index's memory, too. The reason he didn't give up was because there was always (in his mind) the option of erasing the 103,000 grimores.) I mean, how much anxiety did he show when he found out that magic existed? Or how about when MISAKA #whatever died — he didn't emo-ote* for too long, especially after he found out that MISAKA was basically a hive mind.What about the coma analogy? There should be distress over the fact that you have 2+ weeks wiped away, and that the cause is this annoying little girl that you are continuously jumping through hoops over. It's bad execution of his character to not explain that, he gets annoyed over such little minutae like taking in a cat, or food getting eaten up, but the girl causing him memory loss? Does not compute. * not the right word, not even a word, but works well enough |
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| Yeah, Touma is not very shocked about anything as a whole really. He seems to take everything in stride. Everything. Mages? Girls with thousands of books stored in her brain? Vampires? Alchemists? He's ready and willing to accept things after the initial shock goes by. Even when his hand got cut he was like "oh, thanks for putting my arm back doc". If there's one thing we need to be glad about the mind wipe is that it seems to have deleted the "Must do drawn out moral speeches to every enemy I encounter" directive from his mind. |
Leon-GunDec 18, 2008 3:00 PM
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JadeMatrix said: noteDhero said: I'd pass it as some kind of inverted drama. Big life-changing experiences, like taking in a mysterious girl (for a reason unknown thanks to memory wipe) or fighting mages who 'aren't supposed to exist,' are things that need to be believed can only be believed or not believed if you're told you've done them.With the memori lost one can doubt endlessly as well as only trust with their eyes what they can see since the memory itself is not reliable t all. However, his personality is still intact, so he can get annoyed by 'minutæ.' Touma also seems to have a rather laid-back personality, as in 'not much I can do since it already happened.'Indeed the personality in terms of character did not change just the system dealing with it and how it deals with it. The point is there may be only a 10%~20% variation because most of Touma's personality is conserved from what we know about since episode one. (Yes, this applied to Index's memory, too. The reason he didn't give up was because there was always (in his mind) the option of erasing the 103,000 grimores.) I mean, how much anxiety did he show when he found out that magic existed? Or how about when MISAKA #whatever died — he didn't emo-ote* for too long, especially after he found out that MISAKA was basically a hive mind.Major trauma affected Touma and he never gave up because his personality is always caring, you all should know that with the way Misaka was acting and Touma not wanting to even punch her yet he could have.What about the coma analogy? There should be distress over the fact that you have 2+ weeks wiped away, and that the cause is this annoying little girl that you are continuously jumping through hoops over.There is distress and confusion, this should be noticed by Touma personality changes after the memory lost incident. It's bad execution of his character to not explain that, he gets annoyed over such little minutae like taking in a cat, or food getting eaten up, but the girl causing him memory loss? Does not compute.noteDhero you got to assume a lot of things in this and yes, it is stupid sometimes people think that many will understand yet no explanation because of that. * not the right word, not even a word, but works well enough Response in bold for easy understanding. |
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| MISAKA x 100 D: Want to know more about her. |
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Leon-Gun said: Only because he hasn't needed to. Izzard was kinda... I guess he didn't need one, since he wasn't hurting anyone per se. Anyways, I thought that Touma's speeches were kinda badass, at least when compared to someone else's.If there's one thing we need to be glad about the mind wipe is that it seems to have deleted the "Must do drawn out moral speeches to every enemy I encounter" directive from his mind. |
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JadeMatrix said: Well, at the very least Touma has some actual power "of his own" backing his words.Leon-Gun said: Only because he hasn't needed to. Izzard was kinda... I guess he didn't need one, since he wasn't hurting anyone per se. Anyways, I thought that Touma's speeches were kinda badass, at least when compared to someone else's.If there's one thing we need to be glad about the mind wipe is that it seems to have deleted the "Must do drawn out moral speeches to every enemy I encounter" directive from his mind. |
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Leon-Gun said: Exactly.JadeMatrix said: Well, at the very least Touma has some actual power "of his own" backing his words.Leon-Gun said: Only because he hasn't needed to. Izzard was kinda... I guess he didn't need one, since he wasn't hurting anyone per se. Anyways, I thought that Touma's speeches were kinda badass, at least when compared to someone else's.If there's one thing we need to be glad about the mind wipe is that it seems to have deleted the "Must do drawn out moral speeches to every enemy I encounter" directive from his mind. |
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| Decent episode. Mostly developments though, with the discovery of the Sisters and the Level 6 project. I can't wait until Accelerator faces off with Touma. And somewhat unrelated to this episode: I'd like to see some events crossing over with To Aru Kagaku no Railgun in the future. I mean, Saten and Uiharu both appear in the intro, so I'm hoping they actually appear in the show itself sometime later. |
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Eternal_Blaze said: I don't know how the manga works, or how they divided the source material, but the source material is just one straight line, and the anime will follow the novels in order. If the manga borrowed material from the novels to make the spin-off, then it's bound to come up eventually.Decent episode. Mostly developments though, with the discovery of the Sisters and the Level 6 project. I can't wait until Accelerator faces off with Touma. And somewhat unrelated to this episode: I'd like to see some events crossing over with To Aru Kagaku no Railgun in the future. I mean, Saten and Uiharu both appear in the intro, so I'm hoping they actually appear in the show itself sometime later. |
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| this episode was a bit better than the last ones. I can feel more of a direction on where this series is going. Kinda. I haven't read the manga but its ok. Accelerator looked cool. I always wondered about his skill because I couldn't tell from the opening song. Hope to see more suspense in the next episodes. |
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| The amount of delicious legs in this episode makes watching it worthwhile. So they're trying to make Accelerator into Lv.6, eh? I don't know why they would try, seeing he is pretty much unbeatable anyway. |
DaBigD said: But he's still a level 5, that's not interesting. The researchers want to see what a Level 6 would be like. It's human curiosity to aim for the unknown.The amount of delicious legs in this episode makes watching it worthwhile. So they're trying to make Accelerator into Lv.6, eh? I don't know why they would try, seeing he is pretty much unbeatable anyway. |
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| This episode cleared up alot~ I also didn't imagine there would be clones. |
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| meh episode for me; personally I loved the first ones. |
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| Decent story development. Not as good as the previous episode imo, but still very enjoyable. Personally I dont like the idea of "MISAKA Clone Army". I hoped she would be unique. ;) skyenix said: So if you one MISAKA to like you then... BOOM! Instant Harem! ROFL :] Does that mean if one MISAKA gets laid, all the other clones are running around having "mind-sex"? :D |
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| Started of in the same, "omg is she dead?" ;_; where I left off in the manga. And ended up in MINDFUCK. |
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| I know, I'm super behind. Too many different shows I'm watching currently. Just wanted to say it was a pretty good ep. But I too expected to see Accelerator fight, and was disappointed with that teaser of his abilities. Can't wait to see him let loose. P.S. Index begging for Sphinx's sake, AWESOME! |
| I don't understand why characers never realize something is wrong with another when they look into their glossy eyes. How could anyone think that something speaking so robotically and has glossy is real? I just don't get how it happens in so many different anime. I liked how Touma kept holding on to the cat the whole time. I thought it was pretty sweet that after all of those things happening he didn't just drop that cat because afterall Misaka wanted him to take care of it. |
| So what kind experiment is this, does Misaka trying to get herself into lv 6 or the Accelerator, and LOL @The yakiniku scene |
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| That Accelerator guy does not seems like a nice fellow, looks like he's rather insane actually :P Definitely badass though^^ But oh what would I not give for an hour alone in a room with all those Misaka clones xD |
FTGT said: skyenix said: So if you one MISAKA to like you then... BOOM! Instant Harem! ROFL :] Does that mean if one MISAKA gets laid, all the other clones are running around having "mind-sex"? :D I like the way you think. |
| "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." Douglas Adams |
| I LIKE AXERURATOR. Anyway - that was pretty surprising. Come on, throw more at me. |
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| What the fuck?! That's a lot of Misaka back there. So that's the reason why she talks like that. She's just a clone, and Mikoto knew about this since the beginning. Also, ACCELARATOR? SEEMS PRETTY BAD ASS I SHOULD SAY. VECTOR CHANGE? HMM. I didn't get what Touma found under the bed. Was it something related to the clones? Also, the heck are those battle fields for? Testing to become a level 6? What the fuck?! Also, Touma's misfortune stroke again since Kuroko couldn't use her powers because of Imagine Breaker, lol. Index was cute in this episode. I love it when she says "I'm hungry". It's just cute, lol. ONAKA HETTA~ Why did Deep Blood slammed the door in front of Index?! Poor Index. :( |
| your friend is waiting for you outside the store... you come out and find her murdered in a nearby alley... intense opening, i thought it was excellently done |
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| lol I don't know why some people find Kuroko's voice annoying. It's quite tolerable actually. |
| Wow, I was pretty surprised to see the Misaka killed off completely, but then it turned out there's a whole bunch of them. >_> So now we've got clones. Accelerator's power is pretty impressive. It seems he's impossible to attack, if he can redirect anything right back at you. Perhaps you'd have to have a bunch of people attack all at the same time? Well, Touma will probably be able to cancel it out, at least, if he can reach him. Kuroku seems amusing. It looks like she's not literally Mikoto's sister though, even though they looked that way. |
| Accelerator is one tough scary foe. LMAO @ Index knocking on the door scene. The position that Kuroko had on the bed when Touma came into the room. O.O Wow! :P Anyways, I am looking forward to seeing Touma fight against Accelerator. I hope that will be one great fight. |
EvilSynnerOct 5, 2010 9:24 PM
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| sht is getting real~ |
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| I liked the episode, but the part with the "corpse" of one of the clones was really... horrific. Not SCARY, just gory. D: Not much happened, but I don't mind too much... It felt more like a lead-up to the next episode, anyway. ... I don't really like Kuroko. o_O Her way of speaking or voice annoys me - not sure which it is really. I'm amazed Index can actually... lie on the ground. Even if she's hungry... But it was funny how she didn't give up and said "At least feed Sphinx~" as an excuse to get in. XD (Though, hm, in retrospect, that scene with Komoe, Himegami, and Index eating hotpot (erm I wasn't paying enough attention, but I think that's what it was, right? Can't remember if it was sukiyaki...) seems sort of out of place... so I hope the reason for showing them there - eating dinner while Touma's trying to figure out what's up with Misaka - becomes clear in the next episode... |
| Needs moar Accelerator. |
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So if I'm getting this right, they've created clones/drones of Railgun to use as tools to sharpen Accelerator's skills/killer instinct. It's like some sort of sick gauntlet, series of reindeer games. Whoever came up with this is a sick son of a bitch. It must make Misake feel like sh*t, too. |
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| That's a lot of Misaka's! O_O Tch, cloning Misaka so that Accelerator can hunt them. Whoever came up with that idea is a bastard... >.< And what the hell was that under her bed? =P |
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| i felt bad to those clone misaka,even if they are just a clone it feels like they are real when accelerator killed the other misaka.. and another twin tailed obsessive character but i like it that way :) |
| I kind of feel bad about all the Misaka clones just being clones, since I was really beginning to like the imouto. |
De-JaY said: Oh crap. MISAKA's everywhere. This is interesting. More Loli teacher again. With beer... That's just so wrong.... T_T But lol @ Index  "i'm star-"*slams door* |
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| eh, boring episode... clones.. they will never be better than Rei, even if they speak in third person -__- fan service, kittens, eating delicious meal...BOOOORING, I need Accelerator! |
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