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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Good episode. Interesting view into Tony. He freaks out about killing a single Mu who was clearly the enemy, yet he has no problem with slaughtering humans. Really tells you want he thinks about humans. |
     "There is no such thing as God in this world." -Setsuna F. Seiei |
| I really can't decide how I feel about Keith. I both hate him and feel bad for him, and nowhere in between. It's like... If I could just find out what's going on in his head, maybe I could decide. But I'm glad the series creators aren't granting that to us. |
tsukikage said: I really can't decide how I feel about Keith. I both hate him and feel bad for him, and nowhere in between. It's like... If I could just find out what's going on in his head, maybe I could decide. But I'm glad the series creators aren't granting that to us. Well I know I hate him XD I was devastated that Tony didn't manage to kill him. |
| This anime isn't afraid of killing of characters, that's for sure... I'm not sure what to think of Keith either - sometimes I hate him but at times I feel bad for him as well. |
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| This show is killing my heart with all the sudden deaths. |
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stAtic91 said: This anime isn't afraid of killing of characters, that's for sure... I'm not sure what to think of Keith either - sometimes I hate him but at times I feel bad for him as well. That's what I've been thinking too. This episode was definitely one of the best imo. |
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saintcross said: I agree. I actually don't think I've ever hated any other character more. I didn't even like any of the characters he's killed off, either, it's just his character. All the attempts to humanize him just disgust me. The whole "I'm genetically engineered so I have to be evil; woe is me" thing was the worst of it.Well I know I hate him XD I was devastated that Tony didn't manage to kill him. |
DrHouse said: saintcross said: I agree. I actually don't think I've ever hated any other character more. I didn't even like any of the characters he's killed off, either, it's just his character. All the attempts to humanize him just disgust me. The whole "I'm genetically engineered so I have to be evil; woe is me" thing was the worst of it.Well I know I hate him XD I was devastated that Tony didn't manage to kill him. +1 A few moments of emotion do not make up for the horrors he's caused, and his past does not justify anything. I can't feel any sympathy for him. To see him continue to live while so many others have died by his hand really disgusts me. And I hate how the audience is supposed to pity him. No amount of playing him off as the victim will endear him to me. I really can't think of another character I dislike as much as him. |
RizzleSep 20, 2010 9:33 PM
| I used to like Keith when he was still in school with Sam and the others, and I thought they would make us like him, so that we won't be able to choice which character's side we are on, but now it's clear they just want us to hate Keith. |
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| yea dont really feel that sorry for matsuka. he was a terrible character without any backbone. i was soooooo raging when tony didnt kill keith. and i dont think Tony should have felt bad about killing a mu. it doesnt matter the race its the side theyre on that counts. |
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| Yeap, it's hard to bear a balanced emotion in Terra e's game. I always knew Matsuka would end up like that, but, man, I guess it's cause he's a Mu that he held such high hopes for Keith, like in continuing to keep him alive will bring his human out or something, a hope only partly fulfilled. Sam's death too... dying in such blissful ignorance might not be so bad, I think. Only two more? What, only two more... |
| Excellent chapter. I never understood Matsuka though. His masochistic relationship to Keith is just unexplicable to me. The way he died defending him was such a waste. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Why didn't Tony just fire another shot and finish off Keith? He had such a good chance to kill him and he wasted it. You know that is going to bite him in the ass later on . . . Shame. |
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theamato said: good riddance to matsuka. what an awful character. Matsuka was a masochistic, I dont get him, why was he even following Keith. |
| Keith kind of helped him back in the gun scene and Matsuka probably was like some people in here trying to see the good side in the devil himself. Anyway, I raged when Shiroe appeared to Keith ¬¬ It's funny how he keeps saying Matsuka was just a gun for him, but he surely has some kind of mixed feelings about that... Not feeling that sad for Matsuka, though. Mu tried to help him more than once and the stupid little brat decided to keep being treated like a monster by Keith 99% of the time... I feel bad for Tony. Hope he will manage to go through this and NOT die haha. |
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| Sucks for Tony. He came to get revenge and kill Keith but he ended up killing a Mu instead. They're really going all out with this climax. So many deaths. Love this show. |
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| I can't believe how underrated this anime is! It's far more amazing than I expected and it's definitely going to go on my favorite anime list! There's so much depth and character development, and I love a show that isn't afraid of killing characters while keeping a strong purpose for each death. |
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| Sam is dead I can't believe. I wish he didn't end up like that. He lost his memories and died like a child. The end is getting closer. |
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| Welp, what a great character Sam turned out to be...I feel like this anime started out strong but just then got bad developing it's characters after the major timeskips. Sam was such a great character but then turned into a potato and spent his time like that and then just died off-screen? do you guys actually believe this is good writing? someone enlighten me because never seen such waste of character progression before as in this show...same can be applied to Keith. |
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| one thing that's been bothering me is that this anime puts a lot of focus on Physis in the posters and openings and such but she hasn't really been that important so far. and i thought there would a lot more with her and Keith but they only met once piercings made out of blood? that's new also i don't care about how Matsuka thinks Keith has the most human heart deep inside, he's still an absolute evil asshole based on his actions. i won't like Keith even when he becomes a good guy at the end (if that happens, which i'm guessing it will. so cliche) Jomy really did become a bit cold-hearted himself...the elder had a good point. what's the point of them arriving to Terra when they abandoned their own race and killed everyone in their path? ugh so annoying, Matsuka sacrificed himself for Keith. why didn't Tony finish it!?! i'm so sad. this anime is bad for my heart. i actually thought they would make Keith a likable character that just happens to be an antagonist but nope he's 100% an asshole. the thing is, the Mu aren't perfect either, Jomy is becoming questionable as well. so the anime is pretty much making both sides appear bad rather making both sides appear humane. i don't like it :""( |
belovingJan 29, 2017 8:20 PM
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| Am I the only one rooting for the antagonists? I like Keith because he's becoming more human, especially for grieving over Matsuka (who was like many other of the supporting characters who were created specifically for dying). On KitKatze's comments about the gayness, there's hints of gayness probably because the author of Terra e wrote a BL manga (+ OVA) called Kaze to Ki no Uta. It has characters with the same relationship as Keith and Matsuka. She wrote a lot of shoujo stuff. |
| Not gonna lie Makka's death made me cry. He was stupid for following Keith this far but it still made me sad. Still no sympathy for Keith. He only likes people AFTER they die. And his Sam obsession is freaky. |
Tenth said: Sam was such a great character but then turned into a potato and spent his time like that and then just died off-screen? do you guys actually believe this is good writing? someone enlighten me because never seen such waste of character progression before as in this show...same can be applied to Keith. Yeah? I really don't see the problem with it. Sam acting as both a bridge to humanity for Keith as well as an additional reason to (wrongly) despise the Mu for how he ended up is far from a waste. beloving said: this anime is bad for my heart. i actually thought they would make Keith a likable character that just happens to be an antagonist but nope he's 100% an asshole. the thing is, the Mu aren't perfect either, Jomy is becoming questionable as well. so the anime is pretty much making both sides appear bad rather making both sides appear humane. i don't like it :""( This is probably the main reason I love this show. Neither side here is absolute good or evil. It builds up the Mu as pretty good while the Humans are evil and then after the intended massacre of Nasca it shows you that the Humans have very good reason to be so fearful of the Mu. It even provides very good justification for the dystopian SD system. |
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