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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Great another chapter that leaves more questions than answers. Lecter disappears and I assume that the Sabertooth master is dead. My jaw just dropped when I realized that the hooded girl lost her right arm. It becomes quite obvious (found on the bottom right panel on page 20) with the way she writes. We see the hooded girl drop a note about the infamous Eclipse Plan. My guess is that the Eclipse Plan is connected to both Zeref's summoning and Lucy. From the name, I'm assuming that it has something to do with heavenly bodies, especially the moon and the stars. Since Lucy is a Stellar mage and has 10 out of the 12 Zodiac keys, she has the most potential of accomplishing their goal. Though I expected more from this chapter, "King of Dragons" for next week should be pretty interesting. |
PirateKingzSep 20, 2012 11:23 PM
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| damn son the death count is already at 2 (it would seem) and we haven't even gotten to the main cast yet,good chapter just waiting for shit to hit the fan. |
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| ^ I hope not, but if they do join, I want them as side character team. GFG CHAPTER! To be honest, it was a laser blast and it seem to cut through anything. Maybe a resurrection in the end. lol I bet people are gonna compare it to Natsu fight, but I recall 75% of Sting attack were holy type and some were laser, which Natsu dodge. |
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| How the fuck can a member defeat a master. Anti-Climatic chapter. Nothing really happened except the Sabertooth part. |
-MgZ_ said: How the fuck can a member defeat a master. Was thinking exactly this; if he was truly defeated and didn't just take a surprise hit then thats pretty pathetic since he was suppose to the "master" Surprised that Lector actually died tho, since they gave no indication that he survived that. Also didn't think that the girl lost a arm which appears to be the case considering how she was writing. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: Wow. Just noticed that.Also didn't think that the girl lost a arm which appears to be the case considering how she was writing. |
| ST's master is a real dick for killing Lector like that. Honestly I wouldn't mind if he got owned right there by Sting, but I doubt he did. |
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| Another good chapter. |
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| This chapter eliminated any chance of the hooded girl being future Levy. Apart from the scar, she clearly had both arms. While our hooded one seems to be missing the scars and the use of one arm. So my money is 100% on it being Future Lucy especially now that Jellal confirmed the person is NOT evil. Also looking forward to what Wendy will learn from the souls of dragons |
| That is possible. Though I don't think Polyushka is Edo Grandine >_>;;; More like Grandine herself under cover. |
| I wasn't worth the three weeks wait... But, it was good. One dead, the mysterious girl seems to have only one arm. But I'm really surprised that no one find the dragon's graveyard. It's just under the arena... |
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Avenir said: I wasn't worth the three weeks wait... But, it was good. One dead, the mysterious girl seems to have only one arm. But I'm really surprised that no one find the dragon's graveyard. It's just under the arena... Well Gajeel wouldn't have found it either if: 1:Sting hadn't blown the fuck out of the Arena floor 2:Natsu hadn't sent him on his minecart joyride. |
| lol'd when Sting killed the true trash "master" it was a good ch 5/5 Edit: btw does that mean when Natsu broke into Saber, he could have defeated that weak mater as well XD |
MegmurdelSep 21, 2012 1:06 AM
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Megmurdel said: lol'd when Sting killed the true trash "master" it was a good ch 5/5 Edit: btw does that mean when Natsu broke into Saber, he could have defeated that weak mater as well XD That was obvious. I mean Minerva had to save his steroid abusing ass >_> |
| Question: How did they know about Natsu's Fire-lightning ability?! It shouldn't have been something expected unless he used it in some other time besides when he dueled with one of the FT members for the lolz. Also I was not to ecstatic about Sting one shotting the master. Here we have earlier Natsu coming in on Sabertooth apparently stronger then all the members and about to challenge the master and then someone who is leagues behind Natsu all of a sudden one shots him. I mean he killed his poor cat which sucks like hell and I'm sure he got one hell of a strength boost but it kind of felt like that here's this evil master who is just here with all bark and no bite. Good chapter though just didn't like some things. |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
| and with that the whole every guild became stronger the past 7 years was a big bullshit XD Darklight0303 said: That was obvious. I mean Minerva had to save his steroid abusing ass >_> yeah lol and now she is the master :D Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Here, Mr.Steroids was caught off guard. (Also, try to remember that feeling increases magic in this series. Stings feelings was pushed to the limit. Natsu's at that time, wasn't so strong) yeah you're right which is why Natsu always wins :D |
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Ragix said: Question: How did they know about Natsu's Fire-lightning ability?! It shouldn't have been something expected unless he used it in some other time besides when he dueled with one of the FT members for the lolz. Also I was not to ecstatic about Sting one shotting the master. Here we have earlier Natsu coming in on Sabertooth apparently stronger then all the members and about to challenge the master and then someone who is leagues behind Natsu all of a sudden one shots him. I mean he killed his poor cat which sucks like hell and I'm sure he got one hell of a strength boost but it kind of felt like that here's this evil master who is just here with all bark and no bite. Good chapter though just didn't like some things. He knows about the lightning flame fusion because Natsu used it in the attack on ST before Minerva stopped/deflected the attack. |
Darklight0303 said: He knows about the lightning flame fusion because Natsu used it in the attack on ST before Minerva stopped/deflected the attack. Ah that's right. Thanks for reminding me. Juggling between a lot of manga right now so forgot bits and pieces. >.< |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
| I just also noticed that the girl didn't have a right arm. OMG. Poor lector! Fairy Tail is really becoming more and more exciting and interesting! |
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| Okay wow, Gemma's a real bitch! If he really gets killed by Sting then that's just.......wow. |
| "No matter how much of a genius one is, in front of the Uchiha name, they're just ordinary people." - Sasuke Uchiha |
sunlightheart said: Just gonna throw this out there, Minerva is the real leader of Sabertooth. The old shitty bastard was just a fake front. I agree with this theory. Either that or at some point she completely surpassed the guy and just humored him for amusement. |
sunlightheart said: Just gonna throw this out there, Minerva is the real leader of Sabertooth. The old shitty bastard was just a fake front. I wish for this cuz otherwise the powerscaling becomes way too random. Maybe they are pretending so they can overcome the rule of "no master can enter the daimato". Strangely enough hasn't it been said that Minerva is actually Genma's daughter (if I'm not mistaken..). What a dysfuctional family. Other than that, well, to tell the truth this was barely half of what I expected. Very mediocre chapter. Sure the stroy progressed at many fronts but "milky way" all of a sudden is a magic that talks to dead dragons? I don't mind the concept of it but it should have been said some chapters ago cuz now it's just tooooo convenient. The fact that Wendy didn't use milky way before pretty much verifies that Hiro had plans for it from the get-go -maybe the real grandine wants her to find out about the festival and the eclipse plan-but some proper foreshadowing is in order. Also Jelal saying that they are entangled in a destiny beyond their imaginations somehow gives the vibe of time-travel theories. Darklight0303 said: That is possible. Though I don't think Polyushka is Edo Grandine >_>;;; More like Grandine herself under cover. Not really. When they met her after the time skip Lucy raised decent arguements as to why she is not real Grandine. You could ofc say that real Polyuska died at some point and Grandine took her place 14 years ago, but considering the old-times talk that she had when Makarov was sick in the phantom arc, I think it's not possible. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| Holy shit, did Genma really kill Lector?! I don't want to believe the master is dead or defeated. So, Jellal knows about Eclipse, hopefully he will tell us about it. I wondered if that girl couldn't be a dragon that is disguising him-/herself as a human but doesn't seem to fit. I noticed that her hand was shaking a bit, I guess that hints towards her being from the future since she would know what happened on the 7th July. |
Zhou said: Holy shit, did Genma really kill Lector?! I don't want to believe the master is dead or defeated. So, Jellal knows about Eclipse, hopefully he will tell us about it. I wondered if that girl couldn't be a dragon that is disguising him-/herself as a human but doesn't seem to fit. I noticed that her hand was shaking a bit, I guess that hints towards her being from the future since she would know what happened on the 7th July. The actual theory on this thread is that she is right-handed but she lost her right-arm therefore she opens that pen with her mouth and her left-hand shook from inability to write well(remember the random dude's rambling"what horrible handwriting") |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Kanic said: The actual theory on this thread is that she is right-handed but she lost her right-arm therefore she opens that pen with her mouth and her left-hand shook from inability to write well(remember the random dude's rambling"what horrible handwriting") Damn it, logic. |
lolwutfool said: Mhmm interesting...firstly I wonder if Lector is actually dead...still regardless....ST master was proved to be just trash now it seems lol. Surprised Natsu didn't finish him off that one time now lol. Minerva being STs real master mind sounds plausible as everyone has said. She's clearly up to something it seems though. We'll find out about dragons finally next week by the looks of it, when Wendy talks to there souls. And about the king of dragons? Which I'm thinking is who ever the victor of the games are. As for the mystery woman....kind of hoping it's not Lucy from the future anymore...to have a arm missing wonder wtf happened to her o.o Still I can't wait to see the final brawl....will be epic xD You forget how torn up Levy was. Lucy having her arm get lobbed off it perfectly plausible. |
| ^Yes but at the same time it encourages the opinion that in the end everything will be averted cuz frankly I don't see present-Lucy losing her arm for the rest of the series |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Kanic said: ^Yes but at the same time it encourages the opinion that in the end everything will be averted cuz frankly I don't see present-Lucy losing her arm for the rest of the series That goes iwthout saying. The whole time travel thing is to change the future and this includes Levy's injuries and Lucy's potential loss of her right arm. |
| I woulnd't mind though such a calamity. By no means am I saying that "death death death" is a must for a series (like others have said) but considering how strong the nakama theme is in this manga I would like the main cast to experience the other side. Not killing off the importan ones but at least the secondary ones like Jet/Droy etc |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| That's it? For Jellal and mysterious person's meeting, I mean. Gah! Mashima kills his characters once in a blue moon. He kills another one after ages... BUT WHY A CAT? WHYYYY. Dammit, there's a limit to being cruel. My heart ;A; |
Kanic said: Not really. When they met her after the time skip Lucy raised decent arguements as to why she is not real Grandine. You could ofc say that real Polyuska died at some point and Grandine took her place 14 years ago, but considering the old-times talk that she had when Makarov was sick in the phantom arc, I think it's not possible. Yet somehow Igneel is fully up to date on what is happening in the tournament. And how does her history with Makarov disprove that she is Grandine? These guys live for hundreds of years if not more. Kanic said: I woulnd't mind though such a calamity. By no means am I saying that "death death death" is a must for a series (like others have said) but considering how strong the nakama theme is in this manga I would like the main cast to experience the other side. Not killing off the importan ones but at least the secondary ones like Jet/Droy etc Cept the strong ones would be protecting the weaker ones hence why they die in this supposed to occur destiny. |
| @Shozaia Ngghgh, can you fix you post please XD It has been brought up when Polyuska gave those papers to Wendy http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/260/9 |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Darklight0303 said: Yet somehow Igneel is fully up to date on what is happening in the tournament. And how does her history with Makarov disprove that she is Grandine? These guys live for hundreds of years if not more. What? No way. Polyuska was actually an FT member of Makarov's generation(we are talking about 40 years ago). And just 14 years ago she decided to take a break and raise a child? Of course everything could be explained through psychi projections (that Jelal also used in the past) but such speculations should be out of the subject (since Magic can pretty much be used anyway and can validate any theory about everything). The only given facts are the timeline and I can't really see how that doesnt disprove Polyuska=Grandine. Darklight0303 said: Cept the strong ones would be protecting the weaker ones hence why they die in this supposed to occur destiny. Not necessarily, the FT members might as well be dispersed during the oncoming chain of events (or who knows what). I don't think it's a given that stronger members must die before the weaker ones should a destruction of great caliber occur |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Kanic said: Darklight0303 said: Yet somehow Igneel is fully up to date on what is happening in the tournament. And how does her history with Makarov disprove that she is Grandine? These guys live for hundreds of years if not more. What? No way. Polyuska was actually an FT member of Makarov's generation(we are talking about 40 years ago). And just 14 years ago she decided to take a break and raise a child? Of course everything could be explained through psychi projections (that Jelal also used in the past) but such speculations should be out of the subject (since Magic can pretty much be used anyway and can validate any theory about everything). The only given facts are the timeline and I can't really see how that doesnt disprove Polyuska=Grandine. Darklight0303 said: Cept the strong ones would be protecting the weaker ones hence why they die in this supposed to occur destiny. Not necessarily, the FT members might as well be dispersed during the oncoming chain of events (or who knows what). I don't think it's a given that stronger members must die before the weaker ones should a destruction of great caliber occur You didn't explain how Igneel seems to know what is going on live at the tournament. He doesn't have a giant screen in his cave you know. And grandine was the one we saw able to communicate remotely. As for the calamity taking place, well it depends on the scale. If dragon/dragons start showing up, priority one would be getting together and mounting a defense or something. Whether they succeed or not that's up for debate but Levy survives and lets be honest she's nowhere near strong in the guild and Jet and Droy as meatshield would be like using toilet paper against a flame thrower. So strong people would have to be taking the fight to the enemy or defending the others while they try to escape. |
| Every time I read fairy tail it seems that mashima is trolling us .___. Anyway I'm always convinced that the hooded girl is from the future, I think is almost obvious because of what she knows and she told Gerard as well. And I'm always sure that is Lucy :) yeah I'm a bit shocked that she has lost her right arm, but in her right arm she has the crest of the guild... it seems plausible: she hasn't it anymore and we have missed another opportunity to discover who she is XD And I don't know why but I think that Lucy has beautiful handwriting, so we have another hint cause this hooded girl seems to have lost a lot of things... friends, "hobby", happiness... I think it would be horrible for a writer to not be able to write anymore. Who knows, maybe Polyuska can create an artificial arm XD Anyway really I don't care too much about this arm, it can't end always "and they lived happily ever after". I think that Lucy character could become more psycologically interesting and an arm is enough to turn keys. .__. About Polyusha and MilkyWay... this Polyuska seems to know always something more... Grandine, not Grandine... Who knows. We have hints in both parts. And least but not last... Lecter... Sting... Genma.... O_O WTF! 5/5 |
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Darklight0303 said: You didn't explain how Igneel seems to know what is going on live at the tournament. He doesn't have a giant screen in his cave you know. And grandine was the one we saw able to communicate remotely. As for the calamity taking place, well it depends on the scale. If dragon/dragons start showing up, priority one would be getting together and mounting a defense or something. Whether they succeed or not that's up for debate but Levy survives and lets be honest she's nowhere near strong in the guild and Jet and Droy as meatshield would be like using toilet paper against a flame thrower. So strong people would have to be taking the fight to the enemy or defending the others while they try to escape. 1-I ..kiiiinda.. understand Igneel's connection to our discussion. You are most propably considering the possibility that he already exists as a human among humans OR that he learns all that through Grandine (as she is Polyuska). (requesting confirmation here please). Knowledge of the world has always been more or less a characteristic of Dragons in many tales so I see no reason to assume that these Dragons should be oblvious to what's happening if not for someone of their kind to have been there. The communication has been clearly stated to have been something specific between the dragon and her edo-self, in other words if Jellal was also dragon he could have talked in mystogan's head. You consider it a lie to excuse herself from saying that she is Grandine, I consider it a truth mostly because I have no data to suggest otherwise as well as it's a fact that uses characteristics from the one arc that seemed to be the most irrelevant to the overall plot , aka Edolas Arc(and I really like that Hiro incorporates some stuff from the past arcs into the overall plotline). 2-If Levy were to be in such a danger don't you think that Jet and Droy would be the first to jump in the way??? Power level has nothing to do. And by the same logic Alzack could jump in to save Asuka and Bisuka, and by the same logic Macao could die to save Romeo and the list goes on.....I imagine it this way rather than simply the strong being on the frontline while the weak make a run for it |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Kanic said: @Shozaia Ngghgh, can you fix you post please XD It has been brought up when Polyuska gave those papers to Wendy http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/260/9 Lol sorry for messed up post, and thanks for linking to where milky way was mentioned. |
Kanic said: Snipped to prevent quote piramid Knowledge of the world and it's history is one thing, Igneel's speech came at the exact time Natsu and Gajeel were facing Sting and Rogue, suggesting a live awareness of events going on there. Dragons are not gods. That kind of omniscience about everything occuring in their world is not part of the job description. Who do we know there that has already been suspected of being a dragon? Polyushka aka Grandine who also just so happens to be in possession of the only documented way of communicating over distance via an avatar form. Also remember that Igneel was bluntly ORDERING Grandine to not interfere with the humans. That to me is more than enough reason for her to put up the act of Polyushka, the old hag who hates humanity. Outside of a select few in the know, it would keep others away. That is until Wendy sniffed her out. Also if the smell thing was the same for both version of a character, how come Natsu never sniffed out the king as Master? It's a falacy to presume two versions of the same character carry the same scent. Even Wendy said Jellal had a slightly diferent scent from the one she knew who in fact was Mystogan. She didn't say Polyushka felt slightly different from Grandine. She said it felt like Grandine. 2-Yes that is also certainly possible. But again if the goal of the time travel route is to stop this event from occuring at all, then chances are they too will survive since without the danger there would be no sacrifice. We'll have to wait and see. Maybe the future will change but there will still be sacrifices. It would be a bitter sweet note but it's possible. |
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