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08-28-12, 2:03 PM

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@Crimson Yeah, I get what you mean as well. Sometimes you just gotta' fest it up.
 
08-28-12, 2:06 PM

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Brb I'm going to report this to the government instead of convincing them to actually track down child molesters.
 
08-28-12, 2:10 PM

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Post-Josh said:
@Crimson Yeah, I get what you mean as well. Sometimes you just gotta' fest it up.

I think I'm the last person who'd ever try to fest it up.
 
08-28-12, 2:11 PM

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Necro-sama said:
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Just in wonder what is Loli??

Is some kind of new laught abrevation? [ i am not trying to be funny or troll ]

google.


Read Lolita.


Lolita
The term lolita is taken from the nickname of the title character in Vladimir Nabokov's novel Lolita. Lolita's actual name was Dolores Haze, with whom the narrator, Humbert Humbert, develops a sexual obsession.[6] Lola (diminutive: Lolita) is a common hypocorism for Dolores in some Spanish-speaking countries.[7] Nevertheless, "Lolita" and "loli" has come to be used as a general reference to a seductive or sexually attractive young girl.[8]

Well than i dont think this is manga associated. that is what i found in wikipedia.
Some dude toll me it was about litle girls getting having sex. some weird shit like that. - I ask on a Chat on a website while watching a anime online. does Chatango Chat's how ever you call em

@G0053yyyy Shit aint funny dude i actually believed it was Laugthing out loud intentionally.
instead of you putting that code for the image. you could of just put the definition.

EDIT: Ya niqqa's **********************. just found out wtf it is, is when girl's have small boobs and they look like a kindergarden litle kid. that shit not my typee.

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08-28-12, 2:16 PM

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OhNasti said:
Some dude toll me it was about litle girls getting having sex.


Bingo.

Also, the Wikipedia article forgot to mention that the narrator was middle aged man and the girl was 12.

This was probably what you were searching for, though.
 
08-28-12, 2:25 PM

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To cut it short, Lolita, reduced to Loli, and then Lolicon (con is short for conplex) is the attraction to underage girls. Shotacon is the same but for underage boys.
EDIT: Ninja'd by above user.

So, if you happened to own pictures of underage boys/girls, sure you'll go to jail. But if it's a manga/anime you should be fine. Who the hell can tell for sure if a girl/boy is underage or not in an anime/manga anyway ? It's left to the viewer's imagination. And I'm pretty sure japanese people buying hentai/doujoinshi and the like (usually with incest, hey isn't that supposed to be illegal by our dear legislators as well?) aren't getting arrested for that.

Borrowing money at interest rate from private banks should be illegal, but it isn't... So who can say what's illegal and what is ? Do you really think all the so-called illegal things are for the sake of the people? Say marijuana for example? Whereas Cigs and Alcohol are legal ?

Don't get lobotomized by the media.

 
08-28-12, 2:51 PM

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@OhNasti :
Lolita could also describe young adult women who looks very childish and also wear childish clothes. You know, there also exists something called Lolita style or fashion.
It depends on what you actually mean by lolita .

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08-28-12, 3:33 PM

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XeroCleaths said:
This basically sums up the answer:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080710141216AAs2ART

^Please read this! It's probably the most helpful answer I've found on the internet.


Based on this advice, ALL MY STASH is obscene.
but according to @CrimsonLight, if your are a minor, loli hentai is legal?

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I don't understand loli porn, or child porn for that matter, in the slightest, but be yourself. I guess. It would be very difficult for me to take someone who's into it seriously, but I would try my best.

Different people like different things; you just come to accept it.
This thread however is doing the opposite.

If only it were that simple. Everyone develops their own sense of what is wrong/what is right, and it's difficult to accept things that are in stark contrast to your "moral code" or whatever. And yes, being sexually attracted to lolis (which are ultimately a depiction of underage girls) is something I find questionable. It's easy for people to say "I'm open to everything, blah blah.", but I'm extremely skeptical that, when put into practice, anyone actually is.

I would never condone physical, or verbal, abuse based on someone's sexual interests, but people with abnormal interests also must accept that they will be scrutinized and discriminated against. It's unrealistic to expect that everyone will train themselves to give people with abnormal fetishes equal treatment, it's just not going to happen.

Edit: I don't mean abnormal in a positive or negative way, I just mean differing from the norm.

Actually I find it quite simple. I, not giving too many fucks, find it really easy to accept and believe what people like/say. That might classify me as naive but well, whatever. I know I myself am attracted to loli, but hey I'm a teen so it's legal for me. I know people attracted to Guro and while that doesn't interest me in the slightest, I'm okay with it. But hey, we're not talking about me, talking about people in general. Oh well.

So morale is, if you don't wanna get discriminated against and looked down upon, don't openly discuss your fetishes.


First off, I'm still considered minor by US constitution. Does this mean I'm totally clean?
 
08-28-12, 4:05 PM

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First off, I'm still considered minor by US constitution. Does this mean I'm totally clean?


As far as I know, possession and distribution of child porn is illegal, no matter if you're minor or adult. Whether loli hentai should or should not be considered CP is discusable. If you're adult having a lolicon collection you could possibly be branded as pedophile, but as a minor, assuming that lolicon =/= CP, you should be clean.
 
08-28-12, 4:14 PM

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Ryokami said:
unj008 said:
First off, I'm still considered minor by US constitution. Does this mean I'm totally clean?


As far as I know, possession and distribution of child porn is illegal, no matter if you're minor or adult. Whether loli hentai should or should not be considered CP is discusable. If you're adult having a lolicon collection you could possibly be branded as pedophile, but as a minor, assuming that lolicon =/= CP, you should be clean.

But lolicon does not fit the definition of pedophilia.
So how is that possible? or are those people really that retarded?
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08-28-12, 4:27 PM

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rederoin said:
But lolicon does not fit the definition of pedophilia.
So how is that possible? or are those people really that retarded?


The definition of pedophilia (copied from Wikipedia) is as follows:

As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in persons who are 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty varies). The prepubescent child must be at least five years younger than the adolescent before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.

It doesn't say that a person has to be attracted to a real child to be a pedophile, so I'm assuming it would apply for cases where girls are fictional/drawn.

Loli hentai displays sexual intercourse between adults and prepubescent girls. I'm not saying that you have to necessarily get turned on by it, but just possessing it can make you guilable in eyes of someone who disapproves lolicon and you can be considered a pedophile by that person.
 
08-28-12, 4:42 PM

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Post-Josh said:
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Post-Josh said:
I don't understand loli porn, or child porn for that matter, in the slightest, but be yourself. I guess. It would be very difficult for me to take someone who's into it seriously, but I would try my best.

Different people like different things; you just come to accept it.
This thread however is doing the opposite.

If only it were that simple. Everyone develops their own sense of what is wrong/what is right, and it's difficult to accept things that are in stark contrast to your "moral code" or whatever. And yes, being sexually attracted to lolis (which are ultimately a depiction of underage girls) is something I find questionable. It's easy for people to say "I'm open to everything, blah blah.", but I'm extremely skeptical that, when put into practice, anyone actually is.

I would never condone physical, or verbal, abuse based on someone's sexual interests, but people with abnormal interests also must accept that they will be scrutinized and discriminated against. It's unrealistic to expect that everyone will train themselves to give people with abnormal fetishes equal treatment, it's just not going to happen.

Edit: I don't mean abnormal in a positive or negative way, I just mean differing from the norm.


Fun Facts. Once upon a time.

Wearing a Bikini used to be considered abnormal sexual behavior
Having Oral Sex was considered abnormal sexual behavior
Being Gay was considered abnormal sexual behavior (and still is)
Owning a dildo was considered Abnormal sexual behavior
Romantically Kissing a person you weren't married to was considered abnormal sexual behavior.
a Woman showing off her legs was considered abnormal sexual behavior
Being simply seen with a man you weren't married to after dark was considered abnormal sexual behavior.
Heck to most people simply being sexually attract to cartoon is sexually abnormal behavior

and the list goes on, On top that what I listed was also ILLEGAL at some point in time.

What's considered "abnormal" usually only considered that because it has some bizarre and senseless stigma attached to it for no good reason.


Ryokami said:
Loli hentai displays sexual intercourse between adults and prepubescent girls..


But it doesn't, it depicts fictional characters with implied ages having intercourse. Looks do not denote a fictional character's age, no does their stated age. Both are nebulous.
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08-28-12, 4:50 PM

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Ryokami said:
As far as I know, possession and distribution of child porn is illegal, no matter if you're minor or adult. Whether loli hentai should or should not be considered CP is discusable. If you're adult having a lolicon collection you could possibly be branded as pedophile, but as a minor, assuming that lolicon =/= CP, you should be clean.

The reason CP is illegal is because it involves the exploitation of children who cannot consent. That's all.

Lolicon is not modeled after real children, hence there are no victims, hence it is not (or should not be) considered CP.
 
08-28-12, 5:06 PM

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Ryokami said:
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But lolicon does not fit the definition of pedophilia.
So how is that possible? or are those people really that retarded?


The definition of pedophilia (copied from Wikipedia) is as follows:

As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in persons who are 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty varies). The prepubescent child must be at least five years younger than the adolescent before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.

It doesn't say that a person has to be attracted to a real child to be a pedophile, so I'm assuming it would apply for cases where girls are fictional/drawn.

Loli hentai displays sexual intercourse between adults and prepubescent girls. I'm not saying that you have to necessarily get turned on by it, but just possessing it can make you guilable in eyes of someone who disapproves lolicon and you can be considered a pedophile by that person.

The definition actually refers to real children, and loli's don't look like them, and neither is it possible to know whether they have hit puberty or not.

In other words, being attracted to loli's does not fit the definition of pedophilia, anybody who says otherwise is wrong.
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