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2012 simply isn't as great of a year for anime due to not so great choices for the first half.

They should be greatful people still buy anime with free blue ray rips so easy to obtain.

At least the DvD's and Blu-ray's are actually selling.

Believe it or not, some people still don't have BD players and might still not for some time.

Hang in there anime industry.

Naruto and Bleach are irrelevant in terms of Japanese Blu-Ray and DVD sales.

i think the SAO has potential this season

I bet it's just gonna keep dropping.

would reverse importing have a noticeable effect on those figures?

In a recession, consumer sales for entertainment goods always increase because people seek distraction from reality. That's common knowledge, so the decrease is not suprising.

for me

since bd releases only have some minor correction compared to the dvd's i don't get the point why i need to buy the bd's when i already bought the dvd. and bds cost more.so no.

and yeah. i don't have a bd player.

12%? Oh dear....

Well at least we still have the Fate Series and this season we have SAO and Horizon....

though....they're not exatly gonna be 50k sellers are they....

and the other series this summer don't seem to be doing great either.

Why are you blaming BAD Anime?
You should blame Piracy

Comments like this are Exhibit A for why releasing statistical information to the public is so tricky. Most people just aren't equipped to understand how complicated a calculation of this size is, how many variables go into it. So they draw completely unfounded cause-and-effect conclusions deeply skewed by their own personal biases.

But when was this ever not the case? It was no different with DVD. Rips have always been around. Honestly, the kind of people who pay Japanese anime prices (like me) are people who pay because they want to, not because they don't know how to find rips.

DVDs and BDs come out at the exact same time for any current TV series nowadays (and have for most shows since like 2009-2010), so I don't understand why this would be a factor.

It's not really that much, and as I posted late night TV series sales are stable. As the chart shows, the market as a whole fluctuates every year. it'd also be nice to see full year comparisons at the end of the year if possible. A few really massive mainstream releases can skew things somewhat too. I still would like to know if western animation is included in this total (since it's usually listed under "anime" by Oricon), as that's a big market in Japan and would influence the overall total as well.

I'd be interested to know how other anime-focused distributors fared. Aniplex and Bandai are two of the biggest and they're both up significantly. Do we know about Kadokawa, Pony Canyon, or King Records?

This. Something that few people will consider, but maybe sales are down because there aren't many recent anime that people think are worth buying.

Probably because it's a stupidly simplistic way of looking at things? Read the rest of the thread for more details, I'm not going to repost it all here.

Also why do I always see people insisting "selling well doesn't mean a show is good" yet when something doesn't sell, it's "it sold poorly because it was bad"? Those two ideas can't exist simultaneously. If you decouple sales and quality in one direction, you logically have to do it in both. Therefore, I don't couple them at all. Sales are objective, quality is profoundly subjective and personal.

I' like to give you credit for phrasing it like "shows that people want to buy" instead of "good/bad shows", but the post you;'re openly agreeing with made no such distinction.

DvD quality is so 1990's

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Why buy?

Wow. Blu-Ray. O.O I wonder how it will be like during next year's first half.

I wonder how much of that 12% are the Idolmaster G4U volumes that aren't counted. Thats like a total of 90k right there... I wonder if it could get down to just 5% if they counted them.

I think the ratio has shifted almost as far as it can (short of dropping DVD completely like Fate or Horizon) in favor of BD among late night anime aimed at males.

If BD is going to take a significantly more dominant share of the market, that'll have to come largely from mainstream animation or shows aimed at females. The latter is definitely happening, but it's a gradual process.